 Halo, watuwa man United Kona meeting after this. Tunendaku patana watuwa asunwa around 10pm like this today so we need to come up with a game plan, okay? Yes, my name is Valentine or at Kalamiva and you're watching Why in the Morning. The latest breakfast show around. So it's segment on health. We're going to talk matters health and I think you'd be interested in this conversation although it's a bit opposite. Today is a man crush one day but we're talking about queens incidentally. But it's okay, I think we can learn something from it. It does involve a man or the man did play a part in all this. So come help me say hello to my guests and then we can get started with the topic. Hello guys, welcome to Toria. Are you guys football fans? Yes. If you do not pick manu right now, umratu kasi it. I'm a manu fan. Yay! I knew, I knew. That's why I even threatened. You're not... You're a man of machine. Nisawa, it's okay. Today we're talking about health. What's your good name, sir? I'm Benedicto Par. Aha, welcome. Do you have social media handles by any chance? On Facebook, on Twitter? Facebook, yes. Um... Plenty in physicality. Um... And how can we find you, sir? Tell us your name first. Takwin Junior. I'm in Facebook, Gabriel Ethan. Yeah. Sorry, Facebook name again? Gabriel Ethan. Gabriel Ethan. Yes, that's my son's name. Onamajina mingi, mingi za kizungu. Gabriel Ethan, takwin... Gani gini? Junior. We are sorry. Okay. It's the lower thing. Ah, it's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle. Aha. I'm a lower. What are you? I'm a suba. We are sorry. Okay. We will not make that mistake again. So please tell us what you have come to expound on. Uh, we're here to talk about agnantal care for the mothers. And is impotence, yes. And what would you start with? What is antinatal care? According to the National Guidelines for Obstacles and Perinatal Care, antinatal care, okay, they call it FANK, F-A-N-C, Focused Antinatal Care, is the care given to a mother from conception to the onset of labor. Simple as that. Just the other day, a friend of mine had a baby shower. She's 19 years old. So I'm thinking this is quite important for the youth because eh, manzee watu nanza kuza mape mama pema na since had we zi eka full stop apu kweyo story, we might as well give knowledge, right? That's great. Why is it so important to go to these clinics repeatedly? Oh, see, do you after how many months? Oh, kwa ni nanda kwa gali yam said mutu yana face, nujo misdeza. So tell me, why is it so important to keep going to the clinic? Why? Why are you pregnant? OK, every pregnant delivery or postpartum. Postpartum is after the delivery. Has an increased chance of developing serious life-threatening conditions. Yeah, that's why it is very important, very. What kind of life-threatening situations can you prevent with a baby inside the womb? Like preeclampsia, we call it preeclampsia in pregnancy that is basically hypertension. You know, it can go without any sign. It can go unnoticed. Just hits you like... Leostory measure. And you are not checking on it. Not even a headache. And there's no symptom like nothing. Not even one symptom, that's a bit scary. Hypertensive, no, no, no. Sometimes it can go unnoticed. That's why it's good to check. When you go for the anti-natal clinic, they check your baby, they check your... I would advise the young mothers to ensure they attend all the required anti-natal visits. One, there are so many things that happen there. You screen for different infections, diseases. We need to know your blood group. You need to know whether you are anemic, you are diabetic, you are hypertensive. So that we help manage. Actually, when ones come for anti-natal care, we group them. High-risk mothers and low-risk mothers. So high-risk mothers are mothers who might have issues in their time of pregnancy, of delivery, before delivery. Now, low-risk mothers are mothers who might have an emotensive pregnancy. So that's basically what we do. We screen the mothers and ensure that they are fit and they are good to proceed with the pregnancy. So I'm coming to understand it's both good for the baby and the mother. Yes, I'm dealing with two lives now. What have... There is another case that I've recently heard that someone passed away after delivering and the baby was fine, healthy, made it, but the mother later passed on due to some complications. What could those complications be? Among them is the amniotic fluid embolism, where it's some form of pulmonary embolism, too. Yes. Yeah. There's... I'll give you time for us. Ma'zi, you're a friend. I'm sorry. I'll make it simple English for you. Please. Palmonir embolism, I'll give you time. Apana muna nipi, Master. Yeah, okay. It's like, you see you can have a clot in your blood that travels the way to your body, na kujia, na pampiyo, to the lungs, the blood in the pampiyo, it just goes with it. We are stuck in the lungs. We have respiratory issues in Anzia. Amniotic fluid embolism in Uwakama mabila, because you are there dealing with the mother, you don't know what is happening, you're trying this, you're trying this, and this person is not breathing, he's not ventilating well. Yuki tina, pelikanga mama mbibiasana, doesn't... To me, according to me, I don't know what junior would think, because when it comes to obstetrics and gynaecology, one thing might present to both of us like hypertension, but it presents differently from you. We are both diabetic and presenting different from the way you're presenting. That sounds a bit difficult to deal with. Two different people have been saying this. Yeah, it is very individualistic. You deal with the person individually. This are the requirements for this mother. These are the requirements for this mother. So is it kwa kakilasati? Or mothers at the age of 25 kujeni kwa kakilasati nafunza? That's not how it works. That is in the future. You won't say so. Post delivery, at times we have mothers having postpartum hemorrhage. In short, we call it PPH. This is where a mother bleeds after delivery. Now, like I told you, there are so many things that we do when a mother comes to the clinic. So once these things are missed, these mothers are at high risk of developing these complications after delivery. For example, a mother had, like I was telling you, a mother had, she has a low blood, low HP levels, low blood. So when these mothers deliver us, the at times bleed. So let's assume this mother had an HP of around 6 or even 7 and this was not noticed when she was pregnant. Now when she delivers, when she develops PPH or postpartum hemorrhage, she loses a lot of blood. Maybe 1,000 ml. Then... That's a lot. It's a complication. So chances of this mother surviving when they don't deliver in a good facility are very limited. We said it should start from conception all the way to birth. Yes. But is there like a time? Kamamini me kuja kujua. I know someone who actually found out she was pregnant by someone telling her, eh, by the way, ume change. Like she was not really aware of what was happening to herself. Like a month later and they were, ah, yeah. Oh, okay. It's like this. So is it immediately after you've conceived, you're like, okay, if you're funny, lemme just go check, get checked. Amma, how does this work? For young mothers or for the first people getting pregnant, most of the time they never realized that they're pregnant. Maybe they realized after three months, two months, but we say once you're pregnant, you're supposed to go to the clinic. But ideally we say between your first another visit should be between eight to twelve weeks. When you're eight to twelve weeks pregnant, at least you should have visited ah, at not all care. So that we screen you or you are screened for whatever concerns you might have. So the first visit should be between eight to twelve weeks or when immediately you're pregnant, you should visit ah, a facility or any hospital of your choice. What is the role that you play in this whole situation in the Anthony talk? Why you look at me like that, Junior? That's a very honest question. The role we play where as a man it's proper enough it's good you go with your wife to the clinic so that you guys plan this thing together because it's not your baby or yourself, it's our baby. So it's supposed to be our concern. I'm supposed to go to the clinic because there are things we'll be advised in as a couple, not as a mother but as a couple. So like when you are a high-risk mother there are things you're not supposed to do. But you see when I'm not told this thing by a professional or by a doctor, it will be very hard for me when you come back home and tell me I'm told not to do this and I was off there with you. So see when I'm there with you it's very easy for me to understand where you're coming from. So it should be both parents responsibility to go to the clinic. I'll come back to that because we're in a strange generation. It's crazy how on a Ruka member to attack your story. It wasn't me. The meditation. Are you surprising me today? Okay, I have a special question for you. Okay, I understand you can be at risk or you can be at high risk or at low risk. Does maybe things like diet or where you live or how you live your lifestyle can you tell off glance that I'm not going to do this because I want to go to high risk because you live here you do this. I'm not going to do this. Is that possible? 100%. Really? Yeah. But give me some examples of high risk situations. You're a smoker. Kalewa, you're a drunkard. Yeah. I have a question because I have had females saying that I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this. Is that at all possible? I want to be more treated. That's a lie. Write it in black and white. Okay, but how do you how can you be so sure? In my day-to-day life, you never know how it is. How can the baby crave for for a cigarette? The nicotine, I guess. Yes, the nicotine, yeah. So it's possible. It's not. How is it not possible? It's just a cliché that you women have. You want something then in the name of the baby. We start craving for your rights. Craving the baby once. So don't attack a pizza. How did you want a pizza, for example? That is a low blow, guys. Cheese, no nothing. Where's the crev crev to read to? No, you can't, you can't. Ay, queli. Guys, please. It's a way of you guys milking money from us. That is not a conspiracy. It's not a conspiracy. You have that crev. Zilemaw is in itwach. The stones, they eat. Utu tumawetu. Kwanzaa ni muna kumakam changaflani wneza. I don't know how to describe it. But you see, I will not even advise a mother to, I will not even advise a mother to eat soil or those stones because one, those stones are not digested. They are not digested. They don't give some fun in nutrients, ions, during what? If you just go to the hospital, you'd be given, if you need ions, you'd be given ion supplements. That is a requirement of ion that we need to have. So you see, when you're consuming soil, you don't even know how much ion you're taking. At the end of it, it's putting at risk. But when you come to the hospital, I'll know how much ion am I supposed to give this lady. So I will know the amount to give and when to give it. But when you go outside, they are just eating soil, eating stones because you feel like eating ion. No. It's a deficiency in your system because it's that craving for that ion deficiency. It's a deficiency in your craving. If you want to consume that ion, we'll sell it. We'll do business after this. So I want to imagine it's like a symptom. Craving is a symptom. Your body is saying it needs something. Because I I don't remember when I was craving. And I don't know if I was craving or if I was having a fever or something like that. How do you help that one? But you know, basically your system, your body works this way. Kwa dihydrated kidogo, you feel thirsty like like random diabetic. They pay a lot. That one causes some kind of dihydration for media. Kwa kwa atakunyo maji, they take water like they feel dihydrated. They just want to take the water, water, keep taking the water. So we're saying pregnancy amplifies things. Kwa kuna filivi, maybe it's time to causes somebody in the house really. All the systems of the body are affected, the cardiovascular, the what? You see it like now, because you had no idea na pandakidogo, you know, kizeka kidogo pangole. Oh. Yeah. No manato na furafura biko amai, that's why. No, no. Bodo ato furai. It's not very encouraging, guys. Just help me understand. Bodo ato furafura biko wakiyo, aba bidole, amana pato usupu amai furafura. Why? Amai it's just making room for why you look at me like that? You're supposed to have all these answers. These are not hard questions. We wait here to finish your question. Okay, yeah, that's the question. Now you see, when one gets pregnant, the body changes, the body adapts because now there are two people. So as the body adapts, there's something called immunization that happens. So blood is shifted from another, I would not use extracellular to intracellular, right? So there is that accumulation of fluid outside the cells. So it makes the body swell at times. Yes, that's where the swelling comes from. Okay, that makes a lot of sense. All right, so we're saying after conception, immediately you find out you're pregnant to go to the clinic. And these are regular. Does this depend on the clinic that you go to, whether it's private or it's public, that the frequency in which you go, like once in a week, amatois? No, these are standard guidelines that both people in private and in public use. Like I told you, once you realize you're pregnant and you're supposed to visit a health center or a facility. Now we said and from eight weeks to 12 weeks, that's supposed to be your first and not all visit. Then by the time you're reaching 20 weeks, you're supposed to have gone for another visit. We're supposed to go within 20, 24 weeks. That will be the second visit. But in between when you have an issue or you have a problem, you're supposed to visit an hospital. Now after 24 weeks, when you go to 32 weeks, then you're again supposed to come. Now really a woman is supposed to have a minimum of four visits to a facility. But we say, at least they should try and have eight visits. So after 34 weeks, you're supposed to be having a visit after every month. After every four weeks, you're supposed to come so that we see how is your pregnancy progressing, how are you? Tell me the truth. Do they teach you different private and public hospitals? I know. So you're told that the public ones are bit rough? We are not rough. People are taught this. We go to the same schools. We go to the same schools. It's only that we go to Agakan and I'm working in Bagadi Hospital. So you won't yell at me because I'm wearing a trouser and I'm not supposed to wear a trouser and I'm pregnant? Ideally, there are things called, there's something called pre-conception advices. Now before you get pregnant, you're supposed to come to the clinic, you're supposed to prepare yourself. Before? Yes. That is planned pregnancy. You're supposed to come to the clinic, go to the hospital and pregnant now. You answer. But the planned pregnancy started going to the clinic. Check your health, I check mine. I could have, I could be having lack of better words. Low what? Just spit it out. It's okay, say it. Low? Hey, wait, wait. Okay. Are you okay? I'm trying to be modest with my language. To me, a French. A French. If only new French. Okay, my health could also not be so good. I don't want to further a kid that is 2.1 kg. Oh. Yeah, you know, a kid, if you get a kid that a kid that has less than 2.5 kg, you will have high risk. Really? From the daughter, yeah. You know what? Some will get even 1.8 kg. Hey. You had an STI. You did not know about it. Oh. Because it was low birth weight. We want to talk about it. We want to talk about resuscitation. We want to talk about incubation. We are trying to, yeah. I like the way you've brought that up. In fact, as we conclude, I'd like to talk to the boy child. Yeah, and maybe the role they play in this. I know it sounds a bit weird and this generation we're in is a bit. We don't really focus on being there for the pregnant mother or things like this, but maybe we really need, maybe we should. So would you like to give them a word of advice? To the boy child. It's not easy. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. I'm not sure. You're very serious. I don't know what to say. Yeah, when you're a partner, let me say partner. I trust my wife, maybe. Squeeze is arranged. When your partner is pregnant, her health and my health are both vital. It's the number one thing. One number one thing we should put on top of the list. For example, let me just give you a scenario. We didn't have chemists who were in Kawangware. And if there were chemists, they would be in Pesa. You know how they operate. Then some, as we are doing the transaction, some two ladies walk in. One is, they wanted to buy P2. So one is telling the other, hey, unadiwa P2 in a cause cancer. Hey, ni kangali, ni kashindu. Where? I have not had, that one is new. That is new science. So I wanted to, I brought them closer. Hey, madam. Siwa ni ambi, ni watami, ni wachekun, ni liawangu P2. Hey, P2 causes cancer. I don't know. Let me advice you from a professional view. P2 does not cause cancer in itself. What causes cancer is that that person who is in P2 is in Pashnasongapi. Oh. Oh. So hapo HPV na tembelea hako. And HPV is among the number one causes that causes cancer. Yeah, and we just did the HPV a few weeks ago. So that makes a lot of sense. So P2 causes P2. Laki ni mimi, najiwa ifiangu ako, ako heavy. Najiwa sasa ni konan jeri, ni konan fatuma, ni konan, na pitiya pitiya koku onja oja, kapa ni rudi apa. Ni ki collectu ko, kwa ni collectu ni kuja na apa. Boichiwa ni take care of your health. Uhum. Yeah. I take care of my health, jini ki kuja home najiwa wuko. Ipana kumuagi kakwa free ocean. Fearless. All right, Junior. What would you like to tell the boichiwa as we wrap this up? Eh, I didn't expect this. I advise the boichiwa this. Don't make anybody's daughter pregnant when you're not ready. That would be advice. But they like to practice. Eh, if it's a mass you practice, practice safe sex. Safe sex doesn't kill anyone. All right. Because imagine you have a daughter, somebody makes them pregnant and they disappear. You have a sister, somebody makes them pregnant and they disappear. So don't make anyone's daughter pregnant when you're not ready. And if you do, you should get ready. If you do, that's what I'm saying, don't make anyone's daughter pregnant when you're not ready. If you do, make sure you are ready for that. Okay. Or if it happens accidentally, it's time to take the responsibility. There is no accident in sex. There is no. There is no accident in sex. Okay, but this is turning out to be another topic altogether. Thank you so very much for coming, guys. They're telling me our time is done. Unfortunately, we've had way too much fun here. We have been learning about anti-natal care. Yeah, did I say it right? I pronounced it properly. Yes. Also, I cannot pronounce Junia's name, so I won't even try. All right. Am I going to try the last time? Takwen. Maybe you can try. Okay, okay. Give me that muhaken again. Takwen. Takwen. They do it. Takwen. It's T-O-R. Takwen. But it's not takwen. It's takwen. Takwen. Yeah. Last time I took an accent. Fulani. Takwen. Fulani, sueta subuyo. Oh, my gosh. A 254 Facebook, a 254 channel on Twitter. Hashtag is one in the morning. So Kay Alex will be coming up with youth and politics. And after that, we have a conversation with our kings. You do not want to miss that. Don't go away.