 Welcome to mine pump the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast universe Okay, so in this episode we answer fitness and health questions We also do an intro where we talk about current events studies articles that we've read sometimes we mentioned our sponsors So I'm gonna give you the breakdown of what went down in this entire episode of mine pump We open up by talking about cigarettes and COVID believe it or not There's this weird single study that shows that maybe nicotine has a protective effect against COVID No, we don't recommend you go smoke, but we do find we did find this article kind of interesting then we talked about cannabis and cancer marijuana contains compounds called cannabinoids and they have an interesting effect on cancer So we talk about that in that part of the episode then we talk about how energized we were because we had the pure Neutropic from organifi now organifi makes all natural organic supplements, so they have a vegan protein powder They have a green juice that's a freeze dried super vegetables in a powder that tastes amazing So you get all those nutrients they have something called pure which is one of our favorites We actually drink it before we podcast that gives you a little bit of an energy brain boost Anyhow if you want to check out their products make sure you use the mine pump discount for 20% off go to organifi.com. That's or G-a-n-i-f-i Dot-com forward slash mine pump use the code mine pump for 20% off then we talked about protein and muscle I talked about how in the future they're gonna have sales machines that are just gonna sell you anything and everything because they'll be so good And sales now now then we talked about how tiktok got a fine Force taking children's information and also how if you're over 25 and posting on tiktok Can we stop? Yeah, you need to stop doing that. Then we talked about re-enacting old family pictures I talked about the leak from the steam of steam that has all those games like CS go They lost a lot of great information. Maybe get hacked. We talked about water bears on the moon Oh, they're back and then we go and then I mentioned a screen time study that shows that kids who use Their their iPads and their their screen devices might not actually be suffering from social detriments Like we maybe have thought I call malarkey Then we got into the questions the first question this person says look Is it good to squeeze the glutes at the top of a deadlift and squat? Some people say it's a good way to get the glutes to fire Other people say it's bad for your spine. What are your thoughts next question? This person wants to know how to program Plyometrics into their workout so plyometrics are where you you do explosive movements like jumping on a box For example, how do you put that in your workout? What are the benefits the next question this person wants to know if it's necessary to keep workouts under a certain amount of time? Like under an hour hour and a half and also what about the total volume? How many sets should you do per body part per week and in the final question? This person just wants to know what our top two hobbies are so we all talk about our You know productive hobbies like the ones that Adam and I have and the ones that are unproductive like Justin Then the only one that's really having fun in the group Also, by the way maps prime and prime pro are both 50% off so both these programs require no exercise equipment whatsoever and they're both mobility and correctional exercise based so maps prime teaches you how to Individualize your warm-up or priming session before your normal workouts now This is important because if you move a particular way How you prime is going to make your workout either effective or less effective, okay? So prime does that for you now prime pro takes you through Correctional exercises for your entire body whether it's your ankles or your hips or your shoulders or your spine You go in the program Identify the areas you need to work on follow the program gain new mobility New ranges of motion and better connections so that you build more muscle and you burn more body fat Here's how you get the 50% off go to maps fitness products calm and use the code prime 50 that's P R I M E 50 no space for the discount Hey, you read up. You read an article off-air. I did you did you read it off-air and I actually he reads Yeah, I you know I tune you out so often that I don't realize sometimes when you say something I wanted to hear until afterwards and I forgot to ask you appreciate your honesty. Yeah You you you said something about you read some article and you're like I heard you go Oh, it's bullshit. That can't be true And then and then I don't know if you finished it and then client or found out that it wasn't or that it you confirmed It that it really gave Adam blue balls. It was that nicotine with COVID. Yeah How do you want to pull that up? Oh, yeah, I don't want to promote that. Well, I'm not saying I just wanted to hear I actually want to hear you don't get excited. I'm not getting excited I'm gonna pick up smoking cigarettes Somebody say nicotine like awesome. I could totally justify smoking cigarettes now. It's now what they say about weed Oh, I know. Did you see I ruffled some feathers with my my I knew I was going to to because you posted yourself with a yeah joint It wasn't a real joint. Yes. What do you mean? I'm just kidding. Oh, there's a regano in there I think it was. Did you like my comment underneath? Yeah, is that drugs? I was great because that's exactly what the you know the handful of people that it offended and I Thought that was pretty okay. Here's the article and this is in no way Confirmed. This is just that you know, it was a small study in the time. It's in futurism Website so futurism comm and it says study Nicotine which is different than cigarettes all those cigarettes contain nicotine Nicotine may lower the risk of catching coronavirus and it said according to a major Paris hospital study The Guardian reports tobacco could be preventing smokers from catching COVID-19 it says our cross-sectional study Strongly suggests that those who smoke every day It's so crazy to read this Those who smoke every day are much less likely to develop a symptomatic or severe infection With SARS-CoV-2, which is the disease that causes, you know, COVID or whatever compared with the general population So and then they said of course that they did state the obvious smoking is often fatal and almost certainly outweighs the negative effects of COVID-19 Itself so according to the study they found that out of 350 hospitalized COVID-19 patients at a Paris hospital with a median age of 65 Only 4.4 percent were smokers in 130 patients who were all allowed home with less serious symptoms The meeting the median age was 44 and only 5.3 percent smoke by comparing these numbers to the number of people who smoke in the general population about 40 percent of four people between the ages of 44 53 and 9 to 11 percent for people 65 75 they found that far fewer smokers seem to have been infected or at least Experienced serious symptoms as a result of being infected that result in hospitalization. You want to know my theory is I'm curious. Yeah Okay, so when you smoke cigarettes you fucking stink so nobody wants to be around you So it's automatic automatic social isolation Sound theory You go outside and it does kind of debunked the original theory We had though about why China had so many deaths early on and we saw Italy too Yeah, Italy because that their population obviously a lot more than smirking than us I would not I would not rely on that one Observation that doesn't make is I mean on across the board smoking has detrimental effects with any disease That leads me to another Question that I have in regards to smoking and in tying into the Instagram post that I did with smoking marijuana now haven't they concluded now and correct me if I'm wrong that the adverse effects or negative effects from Smoking marijuana are basically negated because of the positive effects that you get from the The the cannabis Okay, you have to put it differently the yeah because there's other there's a lot of effects You get from smoking marijuana, but what you're talking about is the cancer effects lungs. Yeah, so They've done lots of studies on marijuana smoking and lung cancer and they find that there is Many of these studies show that there's no Increased risk or the increased risk is so small that they say it's it's statistically Insignificant and they think the reason because for all intents and purposes Marijuana smoke should cause lung cancer. It's full of carcinogens. You're inhaling burnt plant matter And so the reason for that the explanation is that the the pro cancer Effects of the carcinogens are negated by the anti-cancer effects of the cannabinoids that are found in a wash So it's a wash, but it still reduces lung performance. It still increases risk of lung infection And then of course there's all the other potential negative side effects that they found but in terms of lung cancer there was a big study done in 1972 or 4 and They what the government is was funded by the government and the government's goal was to show a clear link between marijuana Okay, this is what I'm glad you're going this way Yeah, and they wanted to they wanted to show a clear link and they didn't they couldn't in fact It's they in their study They saw a small protective effect and they shut down the study and never really publicized it But you can look it up and see it for yourself So that's the interesting thing, but that doesn't mean there aren't negative, you know side effects of with smoking Marijuana, but in terms of lung cancer Now probably doesn't go in fact they find that people who smoke marijuana and cigarettes have lower rates of lung cancer than people Who just smoke cigarettes because of the you know the protective effect. Yeah, that's really interesting. It's really interesting Welcome to mine pump. We're a health park You offset it with like your healthy stuff. I saw you drinking your pier, so that's what are you guys feeling energized for me? Yeah, no, I mean, I love it It's usually about 15 minutes for me, and then you feel like taking a little bit. It's not that fast for me You really yeah, it's true. You don't feel things this but I feel like it makes this things a little differently I think he does and it makes me smarter than Justin Finally You need an aid to help you Think a guy who bench presses 600 pounds you're gonna go up five pounds. I just put on a bench shirt, dude I'd totally be eating you It's cheating. Yeah, it's so effective. I love mixing it with the green juice. Yeah, that's what I do Did you speak to green the green juice? Did you see? Was it Marlon? Who was it on our forum that posted the I gotta try this? I haven't tried it the vanilla protein powder with the green juice mixed in it He says it's supposed to create this like minty vanilla minty ice creamy type of flavor. That sounds really good No, I gotta try that so I'm gonna try the try the vanilla powder protein powder Mix the green juice in it. It's supposed to be bomb and it sounds well And I know because you know the green juice has that really good minty flavor Yeah, no they mastered that and they make your taste is amazing Yeah, and they make like and Legion does a vanilla ice cream, right? So you could do like a kind of vanilla ice cream flavor with that meant to probably taste like mint You do the most recipes with with supplements. You've used protein powders quite a bit. Oh, I do Yeah, yeah, yeah, you had the protein peanut butter balls, which I'm sure you're still getting Still why you know I know if you're listening right here and listening right now and you've DM yet I intentionally do not respond to you because Because you missed your window. Yes, it here's the thing We don't we don't do like a like you know the thing with like influencers They're like constantly like turn on your notifications make sure you check in everything I'm doing Yeah, and so we don't push that agenda all the time because I just would hope that we do a good job of adding So much value that you just turn your notifications on but I feel like I need to be like one of them influences Be like motherfuckers turn your notifications on hey everybody. I'm doing it right now Yeah, if you want to catch will we and I've because I've posted it three times. That's it. That's done I'm not doing it no more not posting if you haven't listened to me say it on the podcast at least two or three times Caught it when I put it in my story two or three times. You should probably be following a little bit close It's called you sneeze you stop falling stop following all the mother Instagram influencers and drop them They're distracted by all the booties. Yeah, stop following all the stupid ones like precision nutrition Because they they sent out an email and they posted on their Instagram about trigger workouts I'm like, whoa, where'd you come up with that turn buddy? Well, you know what though? It it's you if you go to Google and put trigger session trigger workout anything that we own the whole first page Because we've been doing it forever. Yeah, so I know I'm just it was I think it was a not I'm having a fun It was a nice. It was a nice nod to us. No, it wasn't didn't give us credit They're like we invented this new set You were looking at the flattery thing, you know, it's it's it's someone who's copying you It's a sincerest form of flattery Imitation anyway, dude, you and I take supplements so different bro. So different you're making like puddings and balls and bars and cakes I do I mix it in water. Yeah, or nothing I put the powder in my mouth and then try to gargle that's actually how Justin does it I at least put a water Justin just he just keesters it I mean, it's more effective, you know, I instant they they've done a good job And I know I've always been the I've been the what the taste snob, right out of the three of us that stuff Yeah, but I mean it if you find a recipe like that like I do I do, you know the pancake one that I've done That's the one. I do a pancake one with Organifi. There's a green juice one Then there's a protein powder one that I do then I do protein waffles. I do the peanut butter balls I what else do I use like mixes like that? I've made I shouldn't say I take the credit Katrina is actually the one who does all this. She makes these homemade apple protein like squares They're like protein bars. Yeah, and they're like 20 grams of protein and they like a breakfast dessert and all natural Like there's a lot of cool ways you can get creative and and for me, I've always struggled still to this day I mean, I'm going through this right now part of why I lose muscle so fast as I know that I my protein intake Dramatically drops when I'm not paying attention if you don't chase it. You don't like you don't really go for it If I don't if I don't actively Make a point to track and get like go above and beyond to get protein intake I tend to hit on the the lower end of what I should be getting on the way or miss it completely Like it's not hard for me to have a day Where like I mentioned the other day I fasted in the morning and then I had that and I have a giant, you know Chicken rice bowl thing that probably has a pound of chicken in it, which is a lot That's a lot in one sitting but do a pound of a pound of chicken is still not over a hundred grams of protein Yeah, so it's still under and then maybe I have you know that I brought up. I had the magic spoon cereal tonight Okay, well, there's another 40 so I'm still at like 120 You know so real easily like and that's like really going after it heaven forbid I have a you know pizza day or I enjoy something off the off the menu and I don't go after a big heavy Maybe a lot of people don't realize that unless they really track and dial it in to see like they're not getting as much proteins That's see that's my opinion and that that was members So I used to kind of go back and forth on this early mind pump days and my my thoughts on this are I Think most people have no idea and they think they eat a lot of meat or they think they eat a lot of protein But they've never even tracked or consistently tracked and I've done that so much that I know my behaviors and It's definitely what it's actually one of the my favorite tips to like start somebody off like okay Before we get into weighing and measuring and even tracking like all I want you to do is target protein first make a conscious ever Effort to every meal try and get like it make sure it has about 30 grams or so of protein it And it's amazing how much that shifts people's eating habits because we're so what's such a carb-heavy, you know Well, I mean ideal protein for muscle building and then indirectly for fat loss is high It just is now you can eat less than that and still be okay be totally fine But if you want to eat the amount of protein that it speeds up your progress at least maximizes your progress Then it's relatively high. It's about you know point six to one gram per pound of body weight So if you're you know 200 pound guy, that's anywhere between 120 grams to 200 grams of protein a day That's a decent amount 130 pound girl even is gonna have 70 grams to 130 grams of protein a day That's a decent amount of protein. It's a lot now for me I found that I can maintain muscle pretty well even if I let my protein drop So if I'm trying to build then I definitely push towards 200 grams of protein So and this is why I like it's been a long time since we talked about this It's kind of a we obviously weren't planning to go this direction but I think it's a good conversation because there's for sure a Genetic role in this because I've trained clients on both sides of the spectrum and some people are like you some people They could fast for two or three days and they can be low protein or just kind of moderate levels And they as long as everything else is in line. They're training good They tend to hang on to produce their muscle pretty well. Yeah, I have this my it's for sure It's the minute. I am low calorie or missing protein insurance runner. Yeah, I right away I like muscle falls off as they tried to explain this with the somatotypes And I think that was like sort of the motivation behind that because they noticed this I mean there there are different people that respond to Protein and can utilize it more efficiently. Well studies will show and this is pretty this is actually pretty clear now This has nothing to do with nutrition, but I think that might be a little bit connected That the workouts that you need to do to build muscle are Much different in terms of you need more volume more intensity needs to be programmed more effectively Then the workouts you need to keep muscle keeping muscle is a lot easier than building it They've shown this time and time again So and this is good news for a lot of people who are like, oh my gosh, I don't have access to heavy weights I'm stuck at home or whatever Keeping muscle is not nearly as hard as gaining and the longer you've had muscle The less you have to do to keep it So if you've been certain muscularity and certain amount of strength for let's say ten years Then you can get away with less intensity less workouts for a while and not lose a Significant amount of muscle now. I have to imagine besides the individual variances that there are that that's true with nutrition I know it is with me like I could eat You know I could eat under a hundred grams of protein a day and I'm not gonna really lose as long as I my workouts are consistent I'll just maintain but if I want to build I have to probably double that amount Well, you you also said something to me years ago when we used to argue back and forth about this and you said something that I actually never really thought about and I think you're right like even though I'm at a disadvantage that I don't Hold on to muscle very well and as soon as I kind of fall off It just kind of will come up. I I do think I have a pretty good advantage of once I do bump it Like if I bump my protein big real quick Yeah, like if I if I just in mind dialed with my protein intake for three weeks in a row and I'm training well I mean my body does respond responds dramatically enough to where people like what's he doing right now? And it's like really what I'm doing is just I'm being good on my I'm making sure I'm hitting my protein intake in my training Zon and I do put it back on pretty quick, but it wasn't I'm gonna keep him muscle and fat I'm pretty efficient. He's a story. He's a story. That's a somatotype of Justin store. Yeah Ultimate store. Yeah, did you had my mind spinning the other day? Justin what we were on in our for the audience We were on a group text thread or whatever and we're joking with each other and he said something like oh, you know You're a sales machine or something like that. Oh, yeah, and it had me thinking of and I don't know why I was thinking of this I had me thinking of like sales machine. Yeah. Yeah, like it had me thinking of like the AI and the future and you know when you're a really good, you know salesperson or communicator You can read a person's body language, you know how to change your tone and inflection to try and you know Maybe you have the person understand what you're saying, you know how to listen properly try and mirror their energy Yeah, there's there's all these different a lot of it comes from and you I could list the things that you pay attention to but really it's Besides paying attention to those things. It's practice. It's practice and practice and experience It becomes very natural at how you present things and how you can talk about things. Well, I was thinking about like AI Like they're gonna make machines that are going to read the size of your pupils They're gonna be able to take your pulse from far away. They'll know if what they're saying is working They'll be you real time. Yeah. Oh breathing went up by point two percent. This is a good point I'm gonna keep going here. Oh go drop back down. This person doesn't feel like they're being listened to I'm gonna change my approach like we're gonna be screwed Oh, look at some you're gonna come out buying everything. Well, I think there's gonna be a better salesman out there than you sell No, I think that's why No, not possible never that's why I think we like movies like what ex machina or whatever I mean that that's what she did in that movie, right? She was you know, you know, she knows his heart rate. She can read his heart rate elevating Completely manipulated. Yeah, and then based off of that. Okay. Well, this is what maybe that's what they'll do Maybe the future sales machines will be just like let's make you fall. It's the sex robot 100% it's the oldest thing in the book come home. You know your wife's like, why did you buy four lawnmowers? What's just a taboo with us now? But you know machines don't have that kind of morality. I think that's gonna be so crazy Well, I you know that this is also that goes along with that debate of all right Do you are you guys anti like what? You know the doesn't matter We can't change the Google's and the Facebook's and what they're doing with the algorithms and figuring out your buying patterns And advertising chill time. I don't I don't seem to mind it as much as some people do like some people get really irritated by that and Feel very but as a consumer I you know, I like I like being fed the stuff that I want to buy and not seeing a bunch of shit I don't want to buy that's more annoying. Well, the differentiating factor is like if we're gonna compare to what they're doing in China In terms of like, you know having the state kind of run everybody's scoring system and all that versus here having all the Different corporations have their own way of tracking people and giving them Incentives and whatnot. I'm totally cool that because you can always opt out. Yeah, they're not gonna like mandate you Well, I don't I mean, I don't see it very different than what we're building I mean, we're building something very similar when you look at what we're doing on the back end with HubSpot And to me it's we come from a place of value add and because of that Hopefully it ends up resulting in generating and more revenue, which is you know We are you know putting in place systems and to be able to understand the lead So right now we have you know thousands of leads that come in and those leads get a bunch of value from us But those thousand leads we don't really know much about them And the more we can learn about what blogs are reading of ours what programs they follow what YouTube what they watch We start to learn behaviors of oh, this is probably Somebody in this age that wants these goals and then we get better at giving them the information They want to read that's just good business. Yeah, I have no I have no problem with any of that As long as you as long as it's not in the hands of someone that can throw you in jail or pass laws I have no no problem with and speaking of which tiktok Got lost had got fine a lot of money. What so tiktok was found to be mining Personal information from their users that were under the age of 13. Okay. Is this a Chinese company? I don't know I I had heard that like government Employees and people were were banned from using tiktok. I have no idea that would be very interesting No, I have no idea. No, they got fined because they had to pay five point seven million dollars to settle allegations That it was illegally collecting personal information from children under the age of 13 such as Names email addresses and their location now that really pisses me off. Okay. I find you're an adult Whatever but when you're a child and they're mining that kind of information It's I mean that's obviously dangerous, especially your location and your email children, you know, they're they can be easily manipulated It's I don't like that. Yeah speaking of tiktok, but I guess one of the The popular things right now, which is something you've seen in social media for a while as people like reenacting Some of their family old family portrait like photos and stuff. Oh, I saw that Posted that was so funny. I forget who posted it But somebody posted in like it's this whole thing where where it was like a long video of everybody kind of like Rean like they get like their dad like holding them again over there. I really like that one. Yeah It's great. It's funny because I was thinking about that and I I had thought about some old pictures That would be like a horrible idea to reenact. I don't know if you guys have any of these or not like in the bathtub with Sister did you did your parents do that like my parents thought it was like to you hilarious and great Yeah, to put me in baths with my brother and then like our neighbors like daughter and you know, like Oh my god, dude, there's so many of these like totally Exposing 100% though if you reenacted that that would go viral. Yeah There's one of my brother and cowboy boots going up the steps butt naked, you know, bro, you gotta do that Yeah, I love those There was one that showed a whole bunch of them and then the last scene was really do you see the last scene on the one with Where the girl was like with her dad and then and then it switched and it showed her dad had passed away So she had the you know the ashes and she like throws in the air. I'm like I didn't see that I thought it was great. Yeah, it is right there I think that hands down so far because I'm not a I'm not a big tiktok fan by the way Oh, no, I'm not so obnoxious. Oh, it is and I and I hate it I've refused to bite into it, but I do like I thought that that was cool If you're over 25 and you're making Do you remember when I did this two years ago when I did it with my cousin Yeah, go back on my Instagram like two years ago There's a picture of my cousin kissing me on the cheek and it's like that. It's 20 years later Yeah, she's and we reenacted this the same exact picture of I'm gonna find a more PG Wanted to do but yeah, I have a bunch of real compromising once gosh anyway So there was a big leak a big breach of security at that You guys familiar with steam and all the games that they have like CS go and all that stuff No, no, what's that so these are game It's like my son plays these games and they're played by hundreds of millions of kids and people all over the world I mean I've heard of it, but I'm not real verse There was a huge breach of security where hackers Were able to get in and basically get access to people's tons of people's personal information and in the gaming world This is a very very big deal. Dang. So you got your kids don't play steam steam Well, no, I mean there are Roblox and Minecraft and all that kind of stuff So I mean they're very much and I'm like I hate Roblox because then it gets them on the iPads which I've had such a hard time because I I tried not to add iPads because like that's just another screen now I got to compete with now with Roblox can't can't they talk to other players in the game So I let my play my I told my daughter not to play anymore. You can I think you can turn that feature You can yeah, okay I've done because I get worried because they play in these networks, right and then some random stranger comes up in there Exactly it attracts Predators dude. Yeah, you know, I know I sound like a paranoid Always thinking about that Every day yeah, where are they at? Where are you hiding? No, it doesn't say about tiktok though is like if you're over 25 and you're posting your tiktok videos all over the place Like don't do that. It's so it's so embarrassing. You know, I mean, I'm embarrassed for you. Yeah, I'm singing on the thing I think you're 40. Yeah, I don't want rolling butter to the bus But there's there's some professionals out there that are using tiktok like some old people. I'm like, dude, please stop This is like a public service announcement, you know, if you got like a valid practice, I think I think the ones were the The the parents are like, you know guys and guys that are our age that are fathers of kids that are too You know, they have two or three kids and the mom and the and they all kind of do like the dance together I think that's cute. That's different right getting involved with the family. It's on the kids. Yeah, exactly That's like on camera by themselves Lawyer Why it's funny is cuz they're like every kid who's like hardcore into tiktok is looking at it and rolling their eyes with like They're using it wrong. Yeah, no, they're in there thinking they're gonna get clients 12 year olds, right Well, you know why cuz Gary V said it. That's what happens Gary V tells everybody to jump on a platform They all jump on he's doing he wants everybody It's like yeah get on tiktok. Have you have you found anything that embarrasses the shit at your kids yet? Justin or you just do it just to fuck with him The only thing was like I would go around it like when they would start playing a game and I would be like, oh my god You shouldn't do it that way just noobs and then I just walk out of the room You know cuz like I would just shame them and call them And they would get so pissed so I'll do the what's that one game all the kids I can't remember the name anyway. There's dances. There's players on that night. Yeah, so I'll do those dances Oh my god, I would do some of those my daughter if she could like it just disappear when I do that She would because I'll dab I'll do this thing like this Yeah, I should be like no I did that around their friends when we were at Little League one time because he kept like not paying Attention and so I was like, oh you think you want to show them the dance and I was like Throw my stupid arms around and like shaking like they do and yeah, he got really pissed Yeah, I got some science news that you'll be interested in Adam. Let's hear it. So remember the the a long time ago I talked about the the Explorer the space Explorer or whatever the spaceship that crashed on Mars Space Bears They dump their bears they dumped a bunch of tardigrades. I think they're called. Yeah, which they called water bears Yeah, so apparently grow up. There was another one that crashed on the moon and They spilled a bunch of tardigrades or water bears on the moon. Really? Yeah, dude Another one. So these are so the reason why this is crazy problem The reason why this is great and why they're in space in the first place is these little creatures Survive anything they can live in space. You can bear you can put them on ice You can wherever and they just live anywhere. So they're shooting them up into space. Yeah, and now we're crashing them on different planets Like what's gonna happen and we're gonna grow up to be yeah Like if there's gonna be like stages of evolution of these like little Tardigrades bear bears on the moon, you know what I wanted to bring up was and I don't think Sal's jumped on the bandwagon yet Justin got sold me on it last show, which he did a terrible job Every once in a while I'll like that's cuz it was it was like hippie stuff You sold it bad But you know what like it how do you sell a green house? No, it was my fault because I said there's a lot of spying you guys. Yeah, I watched it Okay, first of all story. Let me sell it better for you. Okay fine for apple Apple did it and it's one of Apple's new streaming shows and they do a hell of a job I like a lot of the shows that Apple puts out. They don't put out a lot and when they do It's normally really good good content. So it's already shot really well and produced well And then the idea of like these really cool concepts that people are the way they created these homes And I thought it was just one show. I didn't realize that it was a whole series Yeah, and you were just talking about one episode which was epic by the way Like I so want to go experience a house like this because I believe that you probably feel it when you walk in Oh, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. It's hard to describe I guess it's just hard to articulate like what nature like Incorporating that more into your house what that does for you and and how you know that makes you feel Internally like if there's there's something about like adding more life in the mix and having a less Sterile kind of environment around you it really changes. Well, not only that so this guy check this out Sal you would you would like this you totally would so he didn't start off that he was gonna build a greenhouse house it actually started off that He wanted to build a house from like scratch with the resources that are around him like from the tree cut down the trees Mill mill the logs and make it like a log cabin house him and his father started this project like 12 years ago and he builds this badass custom log log home from like the the trees that are around him But you didn't finish it. Yeah, and he didn't he didn't finish it And one of the things that it would took such a long because he handcrafted every everything It was like meticulous it was beautiful and he's not a craftsman like he's he has well I forget what his job was. He's like a engineer He's like an engineer or something else and his his thought process is listen if somebody else can do this I'm confident I can learn to do it Yeah, and so he sets out this this journey to start building this thing and what slows it up is that you know Weather permits him to do it so he decides to build a green house around it to protect him while he builds in it And then he ends up creating this whole ecosystem that allows him to have this Mediterranean environment in Canada. Yeah, like you're around degrees like constantly, but there's plants in his house not in his house It's a yeah in the green on the outside on the outside So it's literally just like he's creating this this beautiful Mediterranean Like it's like having two natures So you got one that's like surrounding your house and then you walk back out So is it like this is it like house and then in between the house and the green house is the nature and that's the that's the climate Yes, he builds. Okay. It's got like a moat. It's almost like biodome. It surrounds the house So then it and then he has all the vines and everything else like all the grapes and stuff that he could go out in his garden So it keeps like all the life Vibrant in there and his basement is a complete filtration system So he lives off of his all his sewage goes right back to the plants goes right into the plants and and feeds all the plants Wow, that's interesting. Oh, it's super. I keep thinking there was a lot of spiders though You know what I mean? Just hella spiders and bugs. I don't think there's a lot of bugs in there I mean, there's there's a few I'm sure but More than more than necessary I can't get around that Well, you said that that almost maybe not what I was like, yeah I don't want just spiders. There was spiders. No, but if you keep going, there's this house in Austin, too That's really amazing like that where they built it all So it was like the top of it was all the different like prairie grass and everything and then it splits in the middle And it's really high ceilings and everything gives you this amazing view and yeah If you just get into it's more of like a design architecture Like they really get into a lot of the decision-making process of like how they create these No, it's cool. This is really cool homes homes on an on Apple TV. I said house last time. Yeah, yeah That's another problem. I fucked up another bad way of selling it. It's like naming it wrong I spent like an hour on another good show He solves You know medical issues. There's another one where a guy takes a 300 square foot Apartment in I think China was it China or Japan? I was I can't I don't remember where is that Korea? No, Hong Kong Hong Kong. You're right. So 300 three on those. Yeah, one of those right right 300 square feet. That's I mean There's Asians. Yeah, yeah, that's what we know. So we suck at that 300 square feet But he takes a 300 square foot room that he turns into 20 different rooms So the walls all move and change and it's always like the full 300 square feet But because pulls walls out and it's all these different shelving in it And so he can actually turn it and adjust everything so he can actually like create like a party environment If you wanted to he could create like a study environment theater home theater Interested very interesting. All right one. I got one controversial thing Study that I'm gonna bring up because I think this goes counter to what we think. Okay, so this is an interesting one This is a study that was published April 13th. No, that's the study itself in science news I don't remember when the study was published, but science news and science daily's got some good stuff And this is a study done out of Ohio State University So they said despite the time spent with smartphones and social media Young people today are just as socially skilled as those from previous generations. Oh, there's one study so researchers compared teacher and parent evaluations of children started kindergarten in 1998 to those who began school in 2010 so they're showing the difference those who started before the smart tech and those afterwards and the results showed that both groups of kids were Rated similarly on interpersonal skills such as the ability to form and maintain friendships and get along with people who are different They were also rated similarly on self-control Such as their ability to regulate their temper. So in other words the kids are all right even though We got all this social media and smartphones. Yeah, I don't believe you And I don't know if those are the exact things that you test for right? I mean, I definitely here's what I do agree with I do think that Then you've touched on this before Sal that every generation does this that they look at the generation coming up and they go Oh my god, you know I'm saying and it did we so we there's a little bit of that and that the truth is You know, we are resisting the just the new way of things will be done It'll be you know, it will just be very common and very normal to be in the same house as somebody and communicate through your phone Versus walking down and talking to them. Yeah, does that mean you're not communicating with them? technically you are just a different form of it and Are you actually connecting to more people now because of social networks? Technically you are, you know before maybe you're you're a Popular person if you have 15 to 20 friends So what now you have thousands on on social media so it's interesting There's two things it was it was evaluations done by teachers comparing both decades or whatever and that to me is like are the teachers Evaluating the students based off of their current expectations because that could change it right that could skew it But here's the other part of it. We're all living through a bit of an experiment right now. All of us are isolated We're not Going out and hugging and touching and talking to physical people like we normally do we're talking through our cell phones We're doing FaceTime and stuff like that and I know I feel it and I know a lot of other people feel right Like I would I'm still in contact with people all the time I talked to my parents and family and cousins and whatever through FaceTime still not the same How can we not and exactly and how can we not connect things like the rise of depression that things like this may lead to that, right? So maybe they have the ability to still function communicate But because you're not getting that physical touch as much as the generation before It leads you to more likely get depressed over things or allow You know some troll online to say something to you that puts you you know now you're in your room like depressed over it We're maybe that wouldn't happen as much in person. I don't know like I feel like people are more I think are quicker to to be mean and bully because it's behind I just think back to those messed up studies You know where they didn't like hug or kiss or touch any little babies And versus not and it's like very clear distinct, you know behavioral changes as a result of that So you're trying to like, you know market and wrap around this new way of interacting virtually like it's not the same I don't care how you rebrand. Yeah, well, I'm sure there's a threshold I'm sure that there's a point where it does really cause detrimental effects Like if you just only ever were on tech and never talked to anyone Yeah, that would be an extreme right, but I'm sure there's a there's probably a range right where between here and here It's okay, right the kid over here that uses a lot more tech but still sees people still hugs as long as they're getting both Yeah exposure and I also see areas like so I'm aware of the these situations like in my own life We're like for example my my uncle who's the the generation before us He is a very old school like if he if he wants to communicate something he wants to talk to me where I use text a lot Yeah, and part of why I love the text is because it allows me to not only communicate to him But then I can communicate to all three of you and I feel more connected I feel like oh wow, I was able to answer Justin's question I sent something more productive. I sent in something of funny to Sal So we're having I answered Doug something related to business and then I also got to talk to my uncle So I feel like I've expanded my ability to communicate and stay connected and touch people Where he feels pissed off because I didn't pick the phone up and dedicate 30 minutes to talking to just him So but it is a more personal thing like you know when you talk like imagine texting with someone for 30 minutes versus talking to them On the phone it does feel more personal and a little bit more connected because you can hear their voice and you can hear the Inflections the voice and then if you take it a step further Face time would feel more connected than the cell phone and then in person Would feel even so the counter argument to that is so is that because we evolved that way and the generation coming up that's evolved Without that won't even notice that it won't feel like there's less of a connection. I think it does I think it still does I think we evolved that way But that doesn't mean that all forms of communication need to be the same in other words if I'm having an informal Conversation with you about certain things. It doesn't require us to connect and I need to do all that stuff Well, then text is perfectly fine. It makes no sense to yo Hey, drive up meet it meet me over here so we can sit down and talk for 15 minutes over Misinterpreted stuff right like in text is so like susceptible to that I mean you just have so many different things that you put out there that people take it the wrong way One of the worst things ever like for like Jessica and I I do not like arguing over text I think it's a terrible way to have those kinds of discussions because exactly what you're saying You can't hear tone you get misinterpreted if you say something you don't mean it's there There forever person keeps seeing it. You know, what's the what's the stat 80% of communication is non-verbal? Yeah, I mean it so most of it's not even anyway So that there's a good a good point there right if you're having a very serious conversation Or a meaningful conversation to not be able to perceive that person's, you know non-verbal cues Has to think about it this way here. I got it. I know what will make sense to all of us So all of us has spent a lot of time in the fitness space Training and developing trainers and fitness professionals on how to Sell fitness and sell personal training now. We we know that that's just effective communicating Okay, what are your odds or how much more effective are you at being able to talk to someone and convince them that hiring a trainer? It's probably valuable to them when you're in person versus on a phone call versus through text, right? You get it declines every single time right in person number one FaceTime would be the next closest one over the phone next closest and then text would probably be the least So there is definitely an impact it makes a difference to be to be with people in person It's just how you know how much of an impact. I mean that might be hard to measure First question is from miss an attude I feel like I get so much conflicting info on the glute squeeze at the top of deadlifts and squats Some say it's a good way to ensure you are activating or Utilizing your glutes and lifts and others say it's bad for your spine. What are your thoughts? Well, there's a difference between squeezing your glutes and arching your spine or change or changing your form and position Right because what happens? I think to a lot of people at the top of a squat when they squeeze their glutes is they shift their pelvis forward and push forward Lean back with their upper body put themselves in a weird position that then they need to get out of to get back Into a proper squat that becomes a problem You want to be able to squeeze a muscle and activate a muscle without having to change your position Okay, that means you have good connection to that muscle. So for example I can flex my bicep if my arm is extended if it's halfway bent or if it's fully bent Some people can only feel their bicep squeezing if it's fully bent all the way This is true with the glutes as well If you have trouble squeezing your glutes at the top of a squat without shifting your hips forward Then I recommend you don't squeeze your glutes at the top and instead focus on priming your squats with a Exercise that allows you to squeeze the glutes like a hip thrust So like doing a hip thrust Before you do squats gives you that ability to squeeze and connect to the glutes Then when you do your barbell squats now you can probably feel what it's supposed to feel like to be more connected We did a really good YouTube on this Where I do back presses and then floor bridges So because the other part of that even if you go into hip thrust and you have a tendency to arch to get to get up Like that you still may even do it on a hip thrust Although gravity is working in your favor to not do that There is still the possibility that you over arch even on an exercise like a hip thrust And so if I have a client that's doing that then I teach them the Back press the floor press where you're laying down before you go to a floor So you're teaching them to have that pelvic control and and and keep that you're in that neutral spine with your core Activated and then lift up with your glutes because you know what this reminds me of too You brought this up the other day Sal in an episode where you know How how common was this when we train a client who does has limited range of motion or control in their shoulder and you tell them to do a shoulder press and And you tell them to reach all the way up and at the top they go they go up on their toes This is a similar issue, right? It's only what's in the hips in the butt like you you hear Q from a trainer saying squeeze the glutes Really hard and when you do that you want to arch the back to get more of a squeeze like the idea Is that you do squeeze the glutes? But you still also maintain a good neutral spine at the same time if you have a hard time doing that then you refer To those movements like you were talking about yes So if you are squeezing your glutes at the top of deadlifts and squats But your your spine is really changing position in order to do it then it is bad for your spine But if you can feel the glutes at the top and squeeze them without altering good form Then that's a great way to feel the glutes and to target them with those exercise and also try to Maintain that tension you know all the way through like we have a couple like the the dumpy squat For instance is one of those great kind of tools to try and see where you know There's a break in your bracing technique And so whether it is you know your core bracing but also like activating your legs properly and getting your glutes and your Your quads and things to fire appropriately You know slow down slow down and squeeze and see where you know there's a discrepancy Yeah, now to be honest I I almost never when I would train clients would tell them to squeeze their glutes at the top of a barbell squat I would tell them sometimes to squeeze their quads Because it doesn't tend to cause people to have different position if somebody didn't feel their glutes on a squat My remedy was typically good priming or change the exercise form itself You know at the top of a squat when you're standing the glutes are Relatively less active than they would be when you're down at the half point or at the bottom of a squat at the top You don't really need your glutes don't have to fire hard to hold the weight up now as opposed to like a hip thrust a Hip thrust to hold your position at the top of the hip thrust. You have to really squeeze the glutes It's really what's holding you up there So, you know if you're trying to feel your glutes with squats and you're like, oh, I don't feel them Maybe I should squeeze them. I recommend instead proper priming and maybe change your technique It's not necessarily a good exercise that lends itself well to a squeeze at the top It really only works well when you already have Good control with your glutes. You already have a good connection in which case then you can squeeze at the top and not change your You're positioning Next question is from L. Patrick G. How would you recommend the programming of plyometrics in conjunction with resistance training? Maybe one of the most abused Definitely training methods. Nobody ever doesn't write very very rare. No no no now have you guys ever program plyometrics for yourselves? Because I know with clients. I have for some clients, but typically I don't because plyometrics are Explosive more performance oriented and the average person well only with athletes Yeah, that's the only time I'm ever even bringing that in to the workout now now Defranco really convinced me that there's a role for plyometrics for the average person But he's not doing it this necessarily in the same way is a very controlled way to do it Is and and there and he convinced me he said look if you don't practice a Movement or an explosive movement skill you tend to lose that skill Yeah, and it made perfect sense because I know I know I'm feeling that in myself So the way I typically would program plyometrics is either on their own or Before I get into the heavy resistance now the reason being is that you know and this is after a good priming session or a good warm-up Plyometrics need to be done Explosively in order to reap the benefits of plyometrics the way a lot of people use plyometrics now You can't call it plyometrics all they're doing is fatigue jumping. They're just moving in ways to get them tired plyometrics aims at Improving your ability to explode to exert force and to do so in a controlled safe way Well, the only way to be able to practice that is to be able to practice it explosively and that does not work when you're fatigued You can't practice Explosiveness when you're tired now. You're just working on you know muscular strength or muscular strength again reinforce You know whatever you degrade You know you're working with in terms of like your form like so if your form starts to degrade and you're you're practicing that Through fatigue that's going to come out in your performance out on the field and all the stuff with athletes So I'm always making sure that you know they regain that composure You know everything is is completely ready to go and because because it requires so much of The attention to detail the attention of I have to get my entire body to respond In a split second the way that you know is most effective for this So if you're really trying to train it to improve otherwise. Yes, you're just you're just reacting You're going through something that's gonna wear you out which is part of you know athletics It's part of a game sometimes you do have to endure You know long bouts of explosive type movement, but it's to practice it to train it Is to be as effective as possible that way when you're actually performing on the field You know the way that you're moving is is really sound well I think of it like this because first of all, I don't think it belongs in most people's programming Aside from the case That that Joe makes and I agree with that like I think if you if you don't use it you lose it And so and I'll give you an example of how I did I programmed that for myself because I recognized I was losing that skill. I hadn't done plyo matrix for a while, especially when I was in the bodybuilding world and I remember and I shared this on the podcast not that long ago where I jumped out of the bed of my truck and you know, I have an eight inch lift on my on my truck and I Felt like my knees were gonna explode when I landed and I actually like and what why it caught me so off-guard is I'd never had felt that I've jumped a bunch of times in my life. You know, I played basketball So of course I jumped a lot But I had never felt that way and it and it made it woke me up like oh shit like Because I haven't done this in so long like My mechanics were off and I did not my body did not respond the way I went and and this light bulb went off of Wow, like you know, even someone like me who's very aware of his body and what he can do and I could easily have injured myself because I just I thought I could do something and I and I just did it real quick I wasn't loaded or anything hard, but I could have really injured myself and that's then you bring up a point that Is the counter to the explosive movement part. That's just the beginning It's then how do you control yourself and land properly and stabilize? Quickly you have to be able to stabilize and control yourself Just as quickly as you're able to explode into this movement And that's something that does never gets highlighted in plyometric training That's that's a fault to the most coaches out there just hammering their their athletes And that to me is how you program specific for something like so Right after that and it was it was actually not that long ago or long around. Uh, we were tough when we were talking to Joe Is okay now I see this is where I will I found myself in the gym the very next week You know programming some box jumps and the focus was exploding up and then the land And I only did like three to five to start my workout and that was it and it was actually what was really clever Okay to do this is on a squat day because then it then it carries over into my explosiveness into my squats, right? So I I get that uh Post activation a potentiation or whatever before I go into my squat I also am training my plyometric So I have the ability to jump out of a truck and not let my knees explode And so it has a specific application for what I want to use it. So there's how I would program that Not long after that. I was talking recently about getting back in basketball before the whole covid thing happened Well, one of the things I know that I have lost because I don't I don't move laterally that often unless it's something that I'm training Specifically in my routine and I definitely don't do it explosively So I know better than before I get on a court where I will need to go explosively left or right really quick I need to start training that that plyometric in the gym So and I shared this on my instagram story like a few months ago And I was doing these you know, and I had a bunch of people give me shit and were teasing me But I really and I don't think I'm a And I think that was a people think oh you think you're going to be like a fucking, you know Super athlete right now. I'm like, no, I don't want to get hurt. And so I want to play basketball And so I am I am training I put I had the the band around my knees And I was just doing, you know, three to the right three to the left Explosive lateral moves with the tube around my knees Just to start to strengthen that and that's it and all and I only want to do three Because I don't want to be fatigued and I'm all I'm completely paying attention to every bit of my form and technique Over how many times can I do it or how hard can I do it? Yeah, so I mean really the the easy way to break it down is The jumps or the movements that you're doing in plyometrics need to be explosive You need to rest long enough in between Your movements for to allow your body to fully rest so that you can fully express that power again And then stop way before you get tired. That's how it should be more than two or three Yeah, there's no reason for you to do 10 or 15 box jumps in a row Yeah, and not if you're not if you're training plyometrics correctly and you're trying to get Get explosive movement out of it because after that it just becomes more like cardio. Yep Next question is from shall we fitness? Do you think it's necessary to keep workouts under a certain length of time or number of sets? Some trainers say workouts should last no more than an hour Or that you should only do 12 to 15 sets per workout. Does it really matter? Or is the total weekly volume per muscle group the most important thing to consider? Okay, well, there's some general answers to this but Individually boy that can this vary tremendously. I mean I you know, I've known some advanced lifters who could train, you know 30 sessions, excuse me 30 sets per body part Two and a half hours. I know power lifters that train for two and a half hours to three hours In the gym because of long rest periods in between sets, you know bodybuilders in the past Surgeon you bray was known for doing. Yeah depends on what you're doing 50 sets per body part and crazy stuff But generally speaking when you look at the studies What you're looking at is anywhere between 12 to 20 sets per body part per week Is typically where people tend to fall. That's a pretty big range though, right? 12 sets and 20 sets there's a big difference there. There's a difference of about eight total sets But that's total weekly volume. So that means if let's say you're doing 15 sets for chest For the week Then that means either you're doing one workout for 15 sets or doing three different workouts five sets each In other words, you can break it up Different ways now we found in our our experience that it tends to work better When you break it up into smaller sessions versus doing it all at once As far as total time of your workout Generally speaking, um, I don't know very many people that can have a quality workout That lasts longer than an hour just generally speaking now I know a lot of advanced people that can have a quality workout that's longer than that, but most average people 45 minutes to an hour and you know a real good quality exercise You're you're probably doing okay now if you throw Mobility and correctional work and priming then you could go an hour and a half And the whole you know session be pretty pretty quality But aside from that, you know I don't like answering these with specifics because There may be someone listening that would benefit from doing an hour and a half of a hard workout and Somebody who's listening who shouldn't go long than 30 minutes I really think it always goes back to the same thing that we say on this all the time Which the goal is always to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change And so and and why I like using that because it's that that applies to no matter whether you're a Brand new beginner or super advanced even the super advanced person should be doing The least amount possible to elicit the most amount of change So even if that person is you know five years in a training, they haven't missed a single day in five years They can handle, you know 30 sets of of a you know a total volume on a muscle group But they should have if they did it properly Scaled to that you know and and if you're a brand new beginner Or maybe you've been off the gym for two months or more And you're getting back in you may not even need 12 sets I mean You if you just get in there and you work out four or five sets And you weren't doing anything before you're going to elicit change Your body will start to adapt and you'll you'll you'll start progressing in the right way So I always Lean towards the lower in first so I can build on that and I slowly build and so You know instead of like trying to because this can get Really crazy with all the studies that are out there of like oh this study says this amount this this study says you know the vault It's like well all of that gets thrown out the window because there's such an individual variance on every single person I know somebody who can get great results right now at this very moment doing just 10 You know five to eight sets uh a week and then I know somebody else who will get great results at 12 to 15 Someone else 20 to 30 and so it really depends on where you're currently at In your in your your your training regimen or your routine And again always trying to lean towards doing as little as possible to elicit change And so you start off at just what you need to do to see change and then and I follow that which is About three or four weeks and then I need to start kind of slowly building on that and you know Some people like Sal was saying can't handle a lot more volume than others and you just got to you got to you Got to measure your results. There's a there's a lot of other factors like intensity Exercises I could handle way more volume and sets of isolation exercises than I can compound movements I think that's probably true for a lot of people Uh if my intensity is super high, I can't handle as much volume. I mean I've gotten great results In short periods of time granted, but still great results in short periods of time with Very very low volume just very high intensity like you know I've done it where you know in a three or four week period I'm doing like rather than doing, you know, you know 12 sets for my legs for the whole week I'm doing like one or two, but they're like to failure Which really takes a lot of energy out of you, but it my body progressed So I think you know what adam's saying is is a hundred percent true It really depends on the individual where you're coming from and what you've been doing before And at the end of the day doing more than is necessary to give you the maximal results of just wasting your time and actually taking away from your progress Next question is from scottie's hobbies What are your top two current hobbies top two current hobbies? He's really into hobbies. I mean does anything count because I feel like a hobby is like something that people accept That's a hobby. You know what I mean? What do you mean? What do you mean by that? Like collecting stamps. Yeah, you know like I could see you doing that. I did when I was a kid Of course, I did I think I think they're I think they're leaning because they're saying current right now like because of COVID-19 Are there certain things that like you're getting into or you're doing that? Like kind of like I admitted I was puzzling quite a bit You have been puzzling a lot. Are you still puzzling? I'm still puzzling But you know the problem is you can't order any like they're all off the shelves. Everybody had the same idea Yeah, they're like I'm stuck at home. I got nothing to do Uh, so I haven't been able to get any new ones that are that are awesome So I think there's business potential there So how well hold on how much time do you do this like how like what do you do? You come home do your thing and then you sit down and just start doing usually well I usually do it when my kids are are doing their homework and so I'm sort of at the table Puzzling while they have questions so I can answer their questions and kind of help them through Maybe some troubleshooting of what they need to be doing and then I'm just like, you know hunting for all these like You know shapes and things. I don't know dude. There's something zen about it. You're such an old man It's very zen. I put my glasses on, you know, I got my blue blockers It's like I'm I'm I'm in there just just you know fixated on it You know why because uh like I love you guys and everything but like I need to decompress like just people talking Yeah, I just for me like I I have like two different operating You know gears and one of them is like, okay, I'm on let's go go go go And then the other one is like don't come near me. Yeah Yeah, and so I definitely that used to be my go-to for everything now I'm like, okay, I need to be on more. So we drove just in the puzzle Yeah, you did he drove me to puzzling. He's not lying either because the last two times we've been in Tahoe That's been his thing like I know I've seen him do it hours over there I know what do you know? What is it? Which one are you doing now? Is it like is it cats? Is it like I don't know, you know what? No, it's like, uh, it's coke bottles. So there's all these like old nostalgic coke coca-cola like Anyway marketing stuff material. So I'm putting it all together. I'm like halfway through right now But I do that and then I also I jam on my guitar. That's that's always been Another big hobby of mine is to just tinker away and and I'm not and I haven't really been one to learn songs because I don't know. I just I guess I'm I'm just rogue Like that, but I've always tried to create my own songs and like write my own You know To work on because I just get I feel inspired sometimes I just hear hear it in my head And then I just go try and figure it out But I've lately I've been learning a lot of everybody else's songs stone temple pilots, you know sublime Like beetles and so I've been playing those for the kids and of course Everybody likes that because it's like they know the song already, you know, and I was like, oh god That's way that one again. That's way better than the other one. Yeah, I'm like dude nobody likes my real songs Dude, you just reminded me of something I totally forgot up until now when I was so the fastest I've ever done a puzzle in my entire life. You ready for the story Was sixth grade went over my friend's house. Do you guys ever had that friend whose parents were never home? He was like a feral child. Yeah, they would have a fuck you want it, right? Yeah, the only reason why I was friends with this kid is because I could go to his house And they were called the key uh, last key. Yeah, like it was no rules Like I go to his house. We'd like drink sodas and he put pizza anyway He found his dad's puzzle porn stash. There's such a thing. Yes Yes, we found my head just no no There was a box of puzzle pieces and I guess he never paid attention But one day I went we're at school and he's like dude puzzle porn dude My dad's got a puzzle that's naked ladies, you know, because that's what you used to say when you're sixth grade, right? I remember this before the internet So I went to his find like one. Oh, there's a nipple. Yes I went to his house and we go through this box of like a thousand pieces He's like a thousand pieces. He did like a half hour bro And we're looking for the piece with this dirt or is this bush? Yeah, exactly We're looking for the piece that has the nipple or whatever and we're like, oh my god So we did this whole puzzle and like the fastest time you've ever seen your entire life Well, that makes sense. Yeah, totally. That is so nice. Yeah, what about you guys? You know, I I feel bad because I don't have a really good answer for this and I and I typically do have some hobbies I'm doing if it's basketball or listening to music or I can geek out on things But right now the two main things that I think consume my time And it's boring for people to probably hear one of those is Our business. I mean, I look at our business as a hobby too. Like it's I love it that much that I and I know Doug can relate to this course is gonna give an answer Yeah, I know well And I know Doug can relate to this because Doug will be up at the same crazy hours as I am and he's listening to similar audio books and you're like rain man with the numbers And I I like that stuff. It's and it's therapeutic for me So I I I don't know why that is but I love to look at analytics and I like to look at other businesses and compare numbers and it just For some weird reason that is uh, like a hobby and very and and I don't feel like oh, I'm working So I was I'm not searching for a badge of honor of like I work for fucking 20 hours a day No, I like it's a hobby for me Like I really love to do it when I find downtime When I'm not with max this is the type of stuff that I'm doing right now I just enjoy it that much and then the other thing that that I don't know if it is considered like a hobby, but You know, I'm really trying to um Like I want to make sure that I have like these Really cool things that I can look back 10 15 years uh with with my son And so, you know, I I spend a lot. I actually spend quite a bit of time like the way I put together his instagram I I do I have a little camcorder and I'm videoing him and I'm and I'm actually like Timing it like separate like so that you can see phases. Oh, congratulations. By the way. He's crawling. I saw that video That's so great, dude. He had so and you guys obviously know this because you have kids But it was so trippy to me. So he had we just had this crazy two weeks Uh, uh run with him where he had rosella. He had a 104 fever He was teething. He had a rash and he had an ear infection And also was growing through a growth spurt like all in 14 days. And so it was like it was literally a night I looked at Katrina. I was like no way we're having another one like no There's nothing you could say right now that could convince me to have that was the storm Oh, it was and just every day I was like praying for my my poor son to feel better because he's really a happy baby And he and for the most part, uh, I don't think there's such thing as an easy child But he was he's he's relatively easy in comparison to what I see a lot of people go through And the only time he's hard is if he's not feeling well And so my heart breaks to watch him go through this Then he just a couple days ago like three days ago I felt like if he kind of made it through all of it like it's all long gone and none of it's really bother him and it he he went from wearing Uh, uh, 12 month old to 18 month old clothes. He's Super strong and wrestling back with me like I can feel him fighting against me and resisting me He started crawling his communication is like triple what it was in 48 hours It was the weirdest thing ever but so cool like he's so he's so fun right now. I wish we could still do that Right make make leaps like that. I wish but that's so that's it That's how by the way that that documentary on netflix explain that kids don't grow consistently Yeah, they they don't grow they don't grow and then all of a sudden boom They grow like within a matter of a day or two and I totally felt like I I saw one of those Felt one of those massive leaps for him But I I mean so he's a lot of my hobby right now like I'm really uh, I'm really enjoying being a father I'm really enjoying and I'm trying to be very mindful Of I didn't have a father and so I'm trying to think about all the things that I missed out on and I wanted like I feel like this is my gift Right I get to have This kid and now I get to relive with him all the things that I wish I had so I'm constantly thinking of that stuff Like I don't have any Footage or photos or I would love to look back at him and I Not I don't have any of that right and so that's a lot of my mind and I'm always trying to be I'm not very organized. So I'm trying to be more organized about it So and I know that it'll pay off You know 10 years from now when I get to look back at it with him So that's kind of a hobby from that's good hobby. That's awesome. Yeah, I'll take that Yeah, so I feed starving children when I Gonna one up your You know my step it up the number one hobby that I have is the one that I've had since I was 14 Since the the day I first lifted weights. I fell in love with the way it felt And you guys know this I just I never stop. I love it. I absolutely love it It's the it's my favorite thing in the world to do Love the way it feels like the time I spend either by myself or working out with someone else It doesn't matter what gym I'm in it could be a hotel It could be in my garage. It could be anywhere. I guess the only one that does other things I love it. I love it. And so that's that's always going to be my number one hobby And then the second thing is again something that I've enjoyed for a long time Which is I love going on social media and reading other experts talk about subjects that I want to learn about It's one of the most it's one of the most effective Learning tools that I've ever stumbled across and if you're listening right now It's really really cool. So what you do, okay You go on facebook facebook is a great place to do this Yes, you you ask for an invitation to a group whatever group you want to learn from so neuroscience is one right So you type in the search, you know bar neuroscience You find some groups that have you know 500 people 1000 people whatever Ask for an invitation sometimes I let you in right away And now you're in this group and most of the people in the group are people who are either Phd's or students or neuroscientists and then there's a small group of people that are just interested in the subject But the vast majority of the people in there are experts on that subject now. Why is this cool? Well, they post New and upcoming studies and articles before they become mainstream news or ones that don't even become mainstream news But that's not the cool part the cool part is they'll post an article And then the way this is how I learn I'll read the article really cool But then I read the comments and I read these scientists and doctors whoever Debating and discussing discussing what happened in the article There's I have there's nothing that I found that gets you to learn Better and faster because what I get from that is an education that's coming from other experts who know way more than I do Debating and discussing points within the article that I never would have even noticed where they're breaking down the The study controls or they're talking about well that doesn't apply because this other study showed this and well What about that and it's like really really fascinating every once in a while when I feel confident I'll throw in a challenging statement not because I want to challenge somebody But because I want to get their reply to see how they'll reply to a question that I have and it's just Something that I've done now for a while. I love I love doing it. I just want to point out That's the same shit that I just said. I mean, it's just a different It's just a different part of our business I I find the the analytical side and then you're the science side of the sound of this house You're just giving me shit about that answer But you just pumped your own fucking tires about what you contribute to the business right now is your fucking hobby If I said it like this, uh, yeah, I like to research for mine pump Mine pump research. No, I you know, I mean, that's what it is though. Let's be honest It's really cool because I think what what what really why we enjoy what we do so much is because We got to do something that we love to do Truly love to do because let's be honest if if if we were all, you know Didn't have to work and made tubs of money or whatever We would probably find time to meet with each other At least a couple days a week to sit down and talk about mine pump puzzles coming your way Exactly and with that go to mine pump free.com and download all of our guides resources and books You can also find the three of us on instagram You can find Justin at mine pump Justin me at mine pump sal adam at mine pump adam Oh, and by the way, you can find dug on instagram as well He's sharing some of the behind the scenes stuff on his instagram channel Including the equipment that we use to record the podcast all the stuff he does when he's really wearing pants Oh all that stuff and you can find him at mine pump dug