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How did you start? I was certainly 10 do you fight for the cash and transit robber at? I was remanded on that in 2015 I'm a release date with July 2020 at eight months left I was in Stoke East Cassie called jail and it was transferred to open conditions HMP Subra I have scondid from open conditions and was at large for a week You are about to get out you have open conditions and you have scondid from it like you ran away What an it what a tool Why would you do that that's when I got it for the section 18 sash into the face. Oh Dude's face is what you did The court has given you a harsh sentence Well in terms of sentencing guidelines No, I got I was happy with what I got or in terms of finding me guilty by 12 people and not I think I've been wrongly convicted and Do you plan to be searing the appeals? Buddy had from here. I'm talking he lined them up How did the media betray him Media won't present in the court so nothing really made the papers So I am really happy at my case. I've really had much media coverage. Oh Well, that's I guess that's useful for you when you get back out. Keep in mind. I don't condone any of this Accessible to give all I do put my name in the location and What's the truth? What do you want to clear up? What do you want to get off your chest? Because I know when people get convicted of crimes It's only 10% of the truth is go out. How do they how are they even doing this? Not everything is out. I didn't People are you Jack don't you don't get to give your side of the story I just like to say that Obviously, we did with these young kids out there at the moment and they're out there trying to prove themselves Like I once was or whatever reason obviously not everybody else lives by the same models and values So for example the fucking the kid who I allegedly done He was a graft off and you want to make question because he's people are out there doing what they're doing and funding our lives in a certain way that They're unsupportable and they won't involve the police. Well, you know, they're like that. I I allegedly done He made a statement to the police immediately and then a month later when insert ashton police station made a six-page statement told on you Immediately thought he was a part of that life that he wasn't gonna tell but nope. Yeah, I was a victim of a crime I don't got a buck fifty on me It was People don't want to give up the lifestyle they're living Okay, what is a grafter though? Like what is the definition of a grafter? Is that just a thief? like Because the grafter is not a gangster, right? I Was never really clear on that if a grafter is not a gangster and you slash a grafter's face And he told on you he's not a snitch. He's a civilian who likes to steal or cause trouble Yeah, he's not a gangster. He don't live by that code. He can tell on you you chose the wrong person, buddy And I don't condone it. You shouldn't have chose nobody but that he don't live by that rule. I Don't think he's a snitch You hit a civilian Now that's if a grafter is not a gangster The email looks like that way his grass is in flashing if you bang around these grasses Do you feel that times have changed? There's no honor amongst thieves? First of all Second of all, like I don't even does that a code apply to thieves and criminals. I thought it was just applied to You know I'm saying Like the gangster part of it Of course if you go out and do a crime together and you get caught with your co-defendant. Okay, cool. Now you But like I'll just be on my own grafting. You know, I'm just trying to make it by every day And you hit me in the face with it, you know Feel that models and values have gone out there people don't give a foot like a sage You know, I mean they're just out there for themselves and they Once upon a time your name was everything your word that your name was everything But now people don't Don't give a foot with that people don't people don't push grasses away from them that happens to be around them You just forget you just pretend that that's not happening. I'm acting How do you know the victim It's just a local just a local market from from from my area Where you were the victim on good terms not at the time But was you previously like Tell me about him. What was you doing with your mates and stuff you chill now same as makes you just an equation And Obviously for some bizarre reason he decided to tell the police that slashed his face with a flip knife All right, so what I don't know what a graphic is man. So I say all that but I don't really know So what actually happened bro? What the day the day the day of the alleged offense, yeah Well, basically I was I was I was on my own and and and to keep story short I went and met him and another acquaintance And I got into a vehicle with the boat for them and allegedly I reached over into the passenger seat The victim started slashing his face twice Well, so it's quite gruesome. Yeah So you backdoored him anyway So you you essentially snuck him Like didn't even you know give him a fair chance to defend himself. He was in the backseat He was in the front seat you reached up clink clink clink Man get the fucker man. Stop it Was there a lot of blood? Yeah, it was loads of that Was it a big slash? Yeah, I'm on so far How many inches seven inches or six inches? How did you feel after you did it? I never done it I saved his life. I got him to what's built and this is all is a rebate man behind me So who did it there? There's only two of y'all in the car. There's only three a total of three of y'all in the car If you ain't do it and he got hit in the face So are you blaming the other guy there? Because if that's the case there is reasonable doubt until he pointed you out Where did it happen bro? It happened on the Greenwood Clothing And so where about are you from? I'm from the Droyles, one of the Chinaman So what was it like? How messy did it get? Didn't it just that the What actually happened is I was I was with the victim I company with a mutual friend and we both got out the car and there's a third party there And it was a dispute over the vehicle And I was there that day to return the keys to a vehicle and make my way home And before they could make my way home this person that was on the outside of the car decided to start stabbing that Evicting in the face multiple times. I waited in to stop the lag from causing any more damage And for sure, but like I thought I'd been stabbed in the chest and I thought I needed to get tops But before he died and that's what I've done. I chased him up the street and he was crying for his life with his mum his wet his pants And um, obviously I got him back to the car and I got him to got him to the hospital So he was pretty nervous and shaking up to wait his pants and he was crying for his mum So there was no witnesses. Nobody was no witnesses at all I'm convicted of one person were alone and at the trial he decided to answer no questions, but I still found the other That seems pretty harsh to me. Yeah What have you seen since you've been in prison? What scares you? What bullies you? You've got to be on the right hand, you're on the right way, but nothing in the scares man You've been in prison since 2016. Is it true that you So you sat so you sat on that bench you sat you sat When they took it to trial you sat up there and you cooperated too That's slashed. Yeah. Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. So tell me about that, mate I'm not being much of a talk about real life was I was on the I was on the internal stairwell on f2 before the spank and the Two little girls basically I wasn't there with me and wasn't coming with a little blade Wankers, didn't they? Yeah Tell me how you overcome most obstacles. You've just got to take a step back. I'm gonna deep breath in and assess the situation and tackle it head on So what do you do on an everyday basis? Nothing at all. This is calling my in's coming with limited to what we can do and what options we have got to do throughout the day Jack, I'm gonna be straight over here. Do you have a drug problem? No, not at all. No Do you suffer with mental health? Not that I know of, no Can you tell me how you used to wear money because you look quite flashy to me, man Just get a look, tap it off. I ain't got a lot. I've never seen this type of tracks and like this It's like shorts, but not shorts, but I don't know. What's your biggest weakness? Um, I've got a good heart Tell me about yourself. Tell tell us all about yourself that people don't know Not really much. It's heaven and prison. I'm alive and fortunate now since I'm 16 I'm nothing. I've been much living Because I've known you for a few months now. I'm not really close, but I've seen you about it I mean, you've seen me before, right? You've seen one before? Yeah, that's the best way to be a finger. I don't know if I trust Jack, man On the landing I didn't go live after hearing this story. You know, it's back door, buddy Allegedly from the back seat and hit him with the You know what I'm saying You're questionable What do you think about strange ways about all the corruption the screws bringing in drugs? Oh, he's in strange ways Tell me what what do you think about that, bro? Are you worried that the screws might come in on you? I'm not worried now, but I've been here multiple times and you know, obviously They've got other than viewers that actually there's no there's no there's no meat in the middle And I'll just say it's a notorious place where they do. Yeah, they do smash your head in They do come in, fire up and attack them, so they need Unprovoked You know, I mean, there's not really much you can do about it because it's at high level So, you know, there is a complaints procedure But the people that are answering them complaints are the friends of the people that are smashing your head in So you're in a bit of a bit in a bit of a situation when you start making formal complaints About them as a staffer. There's no one really prepared to listen to you Staff don't protect staff, right? They're coming on you? Oh, yeah, over the years, not in here, fortunately not not not in here But yeah, multiple times from from from being working away from the juvenile estate to the obviously the wilds of them as a conger Been a solid Pure times off screws. Tell us about that man's time, but when they got him in the office Oh, yeah, Officer Costello used to be a non-PL In strange ways, he was known for breaking people's jaws and strangling people and you know all that type of behavior And uh myself and one of my friends had been having a bit of a running joke with a female member of staff I'm dealing in 2017 in strange ways called Miss Lachlan and Irish lady would go on there And he dropping names and everything Jack got receipts. What? Another member of the staff's obviously Reported our behavior towards his female member of the staff and I was called to Mr. Costello's office over there Patrol state when obviously the whole of the jail's locked down and all the cells could be open And there was another S-hole stuff sat on the desk and two current security members of staff that still work here to this day And uh, basically Mr. Costello called me to the office and questioned me about what what what I've been going on with myself and Miss Lachlan and basically said that if if it was to continue he would he would break my arms and snap my phones and Um That's them sort them sort of threats which he was capable of doing because you know It's never the one on one situation with these members of staffing. It's that it's always a 10 on one And that was that yeah fucking coroners ended up getting a grip of him and he's after retired from what I've told through ill health So, you know karma does does does come around every now and again and deals with these people when they're doing corrupt stuff To karma spun the block on bro Fucking hell that wasn't a bit scary. Yeah It was a one I won't lie. It was not scary so much. It was just that he had the he had the upper on me Right, he could have come in my side anytime when I wasn't prepared him and trainers on my already to Swing out. I you prepare yourself when you when you've got this view See y'all see when he said not prepared didn't have my trainers on that's why I really don't wear sandals outside That's an automatic like Disadvantage Yeah, so since then how does that treat him? I was trying to not speak to him. Just learn over the years. You don't engage him. Then you You can't really have a problem with him and the ones that Try and seek you out and draw you out and draw you into them situations I don't I try not to give them an inch So, how did the tree in general them day to day at all? I could say I don't really engage with them But you know, it's a long winded everything's long winded in there and And things don't once new lady like trees raises a place where do you want you to have to bear minimum? Okay. Well, where'd you see yourself in five years? I'm not going to rely to you. This is a prison on prisoner interview And this is better than a lot of the interviews that I've been watching I don't know for a bit. I'll I'll be out and about doing the thing again. I want to keep you in there If you can say something to your victim, what would you say? You're dirty grass me and and you know I'll have to do five year four months extra than what I have to do But you're labeled with that filthy word all your life And you know, if you ever come in sat with these people that I'm sat with now They would force you to come live with pedophiles and charm molesters and corrupt police officers all all Low low scumbags in life. You have to live amongst some people For your duration your time while you're in prison What do you miss the most? I miss being around my family and actually even for them and being generous and being out there living life to the full So you've done a very few Christmases in here. Yeah, you must be hard. Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah Do you have kids? No, no, but I'm no kids Do you feel safe in prison? Yeah, I think I think obviously you'd be lying if everyone said they feel safe But often that's true in it. You've got to be on point. Obviously there's always There's always situations that come Rather than I think if you were just walking around with your head in the clouds and you You didn't have that anxiety and you stung a thing today, then obviously things things things could Creep up on you that you're not prepared for so I could be definitely wrong about the whole grass situation. I don't know Uh, I don't know what a grapher is Well, you was last free. How long was you free? Well, technically I wasn't free was I've had scumbag from open conditions. So I was free but I shouldn't have been out of prison. I had eight months like to serve ever It was a week before it was at the end of them brought back to open conditions charge of the fresher fence Yeah, it's a ill you didn't lose it. You know, I'm your lesson Okay How do you survive in jail? In terms of what survivors how do you like? How do you keep yourself do you have enough support network? Yeah, I've got family and friends, and I've got obviously, you know, some people are fortune Or so I've got well, yeah, I've got some of the structure of people out there that I wanted to stand by me And you know, I've made my time easier and I want to get out of there paying them people That's fair enough. So Come to the end of the interview now And is there anything that you want to clear up and you want to get off your chest and nothing at all? All right, then we'll thank you for That's a w interview, man I know I need some things clarified in the comments. So feel free man. T. L. O. Leave a like comment subscribe turn on post notice Go