 Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the punk rocker moon stomper podcast. I am Amy Shearer title. You probably know me from right here at vintage space and with me is my lovely co-host. I am Jason McClellan and you know we have a great guest today Mr. Pete Jarowazlowski. Thanks for hanging out with us today bud. Well thank you for having me on this podcast. This is fabulous. Excited. Well we start off every episode with getting our drinks going. So Amy why don't you do that? So I am drinking the necessary ska-based beer ska brewing modus operandi because it's fantastic and very appropriate and you know yeah I'm a fan. Jason what are you drinking? Fantastic. Well I guess in honor of our guest today knowing that JR is a someone who appreciates whiskey I am drinking wild turkey 101 so bourbon whiskey good stuff so. Oh you're going for it hard good on you. Yeah absolutely. I like that. All right well cheers. Yeah cheers. Cheers to you guys and cheers yeah cheers to safety all right. G2 low calorie grape flavor artificially flavored Gatorade. Do you like the grape? You really like the grape huh? I honestly feel like they all taste the same. But I feel like the grape one of all of them is the one that tastes most like the color that it is like it doesn't taste like grape it tastes like what you think purple would taste like. I don't know how they do that. They have the aquamarine one and I'm not sure what that tastes like. It tastes like aquamarine. I don't want it to taste like the deep ocean because I feel like that is something you don't really want to taste. Yeah but it's pretty salty so I try to go. I don't really like it that much but it shows up at the house and so I just drink it fine. Didn't we talk about that in an earlier episode Amy something like a like a fish beer something talking about tasting like the ocean I thought we talked about like a fish beer yeah made me think of that. No that's something I would never like to taste. I feel like that's something you would find in a very obscure restaurant in Japan just because I feel like everything that shouldn't exist either exists in Japan or Vegas. Well you were just in Japan weren't you JR? Yes hold on I'm doing an interview I'll be up in a little while. Yeah they don't hear me they just yell down. Yes we were just in Japan actually and uh did you see any fish beer? No there's no fish beer there unfortunately. How weird is Japan because I feel like Japan's the only place in the world where you can go from like a Buddhist temple in the morning a game show involving human-shaped holes and walls in the afternoon and then I've only recently discovered the Japanese ska scene to like an epic ska show at night like how weird is Japan from an American perspective? The only thing that's weird about it honestly is um the language if you don't understand what the because English to them is a it's like a novelty so you go into a you'll go into a store and you'll see t-shirts that say like happy baby fun time you know and that's just it's a novelty because some you know in uh English is the language of business there so everybody speaks English pretty well but it's um some don't they understand it but they don't really speak it so way more than Americans would understand Japanese you know I kind of we've been going there a long time so you kind of pick up on a lot of stuff and you're there but it's really not that weird it's I mean it's weird but it's only as weird as you make it you know and culturally speaking I don't think it's weird it's just they have things like they have a kitty bar where you go to a bar and they're kittens and you can pet kittens while you're drinking whiskey and there's nothing wrong with that that sounds like my house so I'm totally into that um awesome so how I mean I'm just curious just again because I've like recently discovered this insane scossing in Japan what's it like when you guys go there I mean are you like gods um I wouldn't deities maybe but not mythological preachers maybe more than gods um there's a couple of bands that are very popular there but our friends for a long time they're called Kamuri and they're probably the best Japanese scott band that there is there we just played with them actually when we were there and uh they're fantastic they're really entertaining they're funny um great songwriters you know we've known them forever they're like our brothers so it's cool when we get to go over there and do things with them and we're gonna try to hopefully bring them to the united states soon hopefully just you know we toured with them we took them to the uk and that was pretty awesome and then we played some shows with them and they're like gods Kamuri's like god yeah well I guess we should probably mention for for people who don't know you play in a band called less than jake and uh we'll probably talk a little bit about less than jake related stuff but on the show we're completely random and and talk about other things not really um what our guests are typically interviewed about so we're getting to some of your deep dark secret nerdery I'm sure but one thing I know that you love is gaming and did I see that you picked up uh one of those Nintendo classic minis um we did have one on the bus yeah uh and we had our friend Ian from newfound glory had a friend at his and he came and he jail broke it so it went from having 30 games on it which was totally awesome to having like 600 games oh that's rad just mind blowing I mean every Nintendo ever put out and like stuff that you didn't even know they put out yeah um but it was there and we I killed a lot of hours I probably shouldn't have played it so much but it's that old school you know uh four directions and an a b button and we're rad you know so those are my kind of games yeah those are the best ones those are the best games yeah well I mean because like I said when PlayStation came out you know it's still PlayStation's a cool system and like you know it's probably the standard bearer whatever but like for me it everything kind of changed there's way too many buttons and it got way too complicated I'm like well what happened to the two buttons jump shoot you know now I gotta fucking run backwards and dive I don't want to do that I just want to do what I've always done you know but so I guess that I've kind of worked my way out of video games but this new this Nintendo thing has brought me back to the the limelight I'm excited but being a sports guy like how do you feel about the progression of sports games like Madden you know I mean I hate games that are it's still the same game like yeah the same step still X throws X runs X you know what I mean like that it's that's been the same format forever you know so nothing's really changed and that baseball's the same thing like if the graphics have gotten better yeah you know like the uh the gaming experience has gotten better and your abilities to control like what the players do and stuff has gotten a lot better you know I play is I don't play as much as I probably used to um but every my best friend is Chris and he plays in that band the mighty mighty boston's maybe a person and he's uh he's a gamer like I'm really quick and so I just go to his house and kind of watch him play the 50 games he plays at once we get drunk and he tries to explain to me how things work and I'm just like rad dude I'm watching this is great you know so but the nintendo thing is rad that's actually my favorite thing that they have uh that they have now so it wasn't mine to have it was somebody else's on our bus and uh but I am hopefully getting one for my birthday I kind of dropped the the hint not so subtle hint not so subtle hey you guys always want to know it what I want for my birthday yeah here you go that's awesome leave pictures all over the wall with trails of yeah that's uh that my mom always does for my dad when she wants something very specific be not so subtle hint of it plastered on the fridge usually works what's your favorite classic nintendo game oh uh mike tyson's punch out for sure that's definitely the it's that's classic yeah I used to really like super mario brothers three specifically super mario brothers three like a lot of people like two you know um but you know there's always the classic one or whatever but super mario brothers three I like the fact that you could get the tail and spin you know yep uh that was pretty good one and then I'm still trying to beat that game I have never beat that game I actually have a usb controller for my computer to play that game with a proper controller on my computer still can't beat it oh man yeah I bought the book they used to remember they used to sell the guides you know how to beat the game I definitely bought the guide wow that's dedication to your nintendo no it's just wasting my another 30 bucks of my parents money it's like I really need this maybe it wasn't my parents money maybe it was like birthing money or something but more money to the nintendo corporation and fond memories that's the important part that's right building memories yeah so win slash if you end up getting yours are you going to send it out and have a jail broken for you oh man if I can you're going to buy the book to do it yourself I like throw the I read somewhere that they were trying to do something to prevent that from happening so but I mean it's got to be so tempting because that's your experience now you got got a taste of that so it would be oh no I am too I am going to do it but if it's impossible then I you know I can't stop the rock yeah what I'm so sure but I am going to do it that is like send it out that's awesome my buddy he lives in New York he could probably do it I'm just never asked you know it's good to have those friends oh yeah so what are your feelings on the new trend of beer kates because this is like my favorite thing that's popping up like I'm in LA there's a couple in LA and I just love that you can now as a grown-up it's socially acceptable to get drunk playing video games this is the best thing ever I used to go to when I was a kid I used to go to a teenager I would go to the arcade drunk and you get drunk behind the thing and then you go play whatever so I guess it's just like making it like a real thing you know like I'm sure there were many people that used to go to arcades man wouldn't be awesome if you could just like buy beer here but it's not like a new concept it's been around for a long time there was right and there's one in Portland Oregon it's been there forever and it's right behind the roseland theater there and it's called replay cafe I think or something like that and it had it seriously like the first floor is all the old school games and it still runs everything runs on quarters everything's a quarter game and then you go upstairs and I have to say probably like 50 pinball game pinball machines and they're all just lined up and that to me is the best one I've ever been to all the rest are cool you know there's one in Gainesville that opened up and it's just called there I think they're all just called barcade you know I don't know if it's a chain or everybody you know at some point somebody's gonna like trademark that name and they're gonna need a lot of arcade bar I think is what it's called you know how dumb hell it delivers what it promises yeah can you imagine what are we gonna call it well I mean we call it arcade bar but that's ridiculous we're not gonna call that then next week opening of arcade bar I think it's cool I think it's a great sucker punch to millennials you know what I mean like that's all it is they're trying to get millennials money because that's a whole generation that has no idea what arcade was but now it's like retro and anything from like the 80s or 90s is like cool again for whatever reason yeah they people I see like people dressing like they're the guy from you know pretty in pink you know a lot of dudes kind of dressing like that guy and Molly Ringwald and there's a certain like aesthetic I guess from that time period like a romanticism that it was a cool time period but it wasn't yeah which of all the decades to bring back that's not one that I think of as you know longingly missed out on or something the broken 90s big shoulder pads remember that look yeah well with with the uh yeah just with how nostalgia is like everything right now I don't know I think it's about time for less than Jake to be popular again right yeah I mean that's what we're trying for you gotta strike while the iron's hot I guess not our fault we were 90s I mean now anymore you know they're they're remaking movies that are five years old or something so I mean yeah you guys aren't that old but it's certainly it's certainly ready to come back around not that you ever went anywhere and you guys have to be exhausted because you never never slow down or stop yeah I mean considering that we're all in our early 60s you know it's a I say 60s I'm in 30s sorry 20s 20s I meant 20s yeah it's tough alcohol works works magic in magic ways makes everything go backwards that's right that's right well I mean it's gotta it's gotta I don't know I guess I'll ask you how does that make you feel when you know bands that you've toured with and been on on festival shows and stuff for so long um that are younger than you guys are call the quits like yellow card I'll point out you know you guys are good what five years older than than yellow card or started five years before a yellow card and now yellow card is done how does that make you feel um sad for them yeah I guess you know I don't really think about it in the terms of like you know there's lifers and then there's you know bands that break up and I it's not like a shot at those guys I really love yellow card actually and they're they asked I was they were gracious and they asked me to do they had this like intro that they played before their intro and it was like them telling people not to film their show and they asked me if I would do it for them and I was like fuck that's awesome you know to think that my little brain that I was like part of their final tours kind of cool you know during that we toured with them a lot and you know took them out on one of their first like national tours you know um but in the reality it's just like another one bites the dust I don't want to sound harsh or whatever but like it's not easy being in a band isn't easy and there's a lot of ebbs and flows that happen along a career you know and like peaks and valleys and if you can't figure out how to climb out of the valley sometimes you just need to you know call it a day you know sometimes people don't get along sometimes people want to be with their families they get older you know it's perspective is different at 40 than it is at 20 that's for sure you know and uh the longer that we're able to do something like this the less people from our time period are around does that make sense yeah like find myself when we were in japan I was having breakfast with name drop with uh j bentley from bad religion and smelly from no effects and you know those guys like no no effects has been around longer than we have bad religion's been around you know back 1979 bad religion became banned you know like those guys and they're still like killing it yeah you know and it's hard to figure out what gets people over that hump where you're just like oh all these people are just going to come see you just become a name that people know I don't know how it happens I don't know if it happened to us but apparently people said it did so and the people who keep showing up that's cool it's cool that they keep showing up and we must be doing something right you know but for some people they just have enough and it's hard to be in a relationship being in you know in a band relationship it's just like being married to four people yeah you know what Amy yeah so it's uh if you can make that work you can go as long as you want to go you know you just have to figure out how to make it work and I guess when bands like that you know call it quits it affects you more personally um just on a I guess personal and community level because you know any community where you're with sort of the same group of people for so many years and used to seeing those familiar faces when you're doing different shows and all of a sudden those some of those faces are gone it's it's weird yeah it's weird but you know what you break up for the reunion yeah that's right that's exactly right gets back together and they do it because they're just like well maybe the paycheck's going to be better or whatever but I think it's like kind of a false sense of security for a lot of bands too because they get back together and there's this rush of people going fuck these guys were so good and then they're going to try to go back out on like tour three in a year in the US and then they realize that uh fuck we probably should have just gone out on one tour yeah and maybe we would go out on another tour the next year you know it's um over saturation and you know like I said it's like a false sense of you know this is something awesome you know because people's dollars that they spend for that kind of stuff is limited these days too so when we go out you know it's like us versus you going to the movies or you going out to dinner or you going out to the baseball game or the hockey game or whatever sports ball event you want to go to you know so it's all kind of the same thing so we realize that so we try to make each thing like special yeah probably way too um technical to answer that question but the bottom line is if you break up stay broken up fuck off don't get back together there you go I like it seriously like if you're gonna say this is it make it it because I'm gonna call you out on the internet if you do it you know if you don't because I think it's bullshit honestly I think it's bullshit me and Jay from bad religion always said that we're gonna do the breakup tour into the reunion tour so and we have bad religion unless the jake would do it at the same time that we just said this is it it's over and then we bam middle as soon as we start the last tour like this is so good we're gonna do it again we're gonna get back together yeah and like two months later be fun that's awesome yeah I mean Jerry not not related to music but Jerry Seinfeld did it right you know he called a quits went out on top and that was it you know people threw money at him left and right to do it do a you know a new show or a reunion or whatever and he's like no done and he's yeah you know faked it found ways to fake it by doing it on on crib your enthusiasm like a phony reunion but you know yeah but you close you close that chat sometimes it's easier to just close the chapter exactly move on you know like because if it's not working it's not working for a reason you know so just move on it's cool there's it's young man's business anyways dude and tighter pants with you know better haircut than you pretty soon you know well you guys have been in the business for so long now and you know you brought up no effects and those guys too and you know less than jake is sort of the kings of merchandising I think and when are you guys gonna do do your hepatitis bathtub I think that was one of the greatest things they've ever done it's fantastic we don't have a bit of stories as uh smelly I mean let's be honest smelly's the star of that book everybody yes just hanging on um but they you know it's the it's great it's a great thing that they did it took them a lot of years to actually do that like compile everything yeah I bet and we've talked about it but I just don't know if our stories are as good as you know their stories but maybe someday yeah it's been out you know yeah doing like merchandise is a fun thing for some of us like for me and Vinny we'll sit around and I'll go what do you think if we did this but we can't do that can we and be like I know a guy that says we can yeah call and then bam less than jake coffee shows up you know whatever whatever is fun whatever is cool you know something because how many less than jake t-shirts can you have right I guess you know but you got to kind of you keeping it interesting for your fans is uh important drop kick murphy's do it too those guys are the kings of bling man we just you know try to do different stuff to perpetuate the brand I just said that I feel like a marketing flag sounded very marketer of you yeah but I mean that's what it is yeah you know unfortunately well you mentioned drop kick murphy's and that's another band like you guys who it seems have been doing a lot of a lot of the cruise shows lately in recent years the shows on the ships yeah how do you like those man those are those are an entirely different experience yeah it's you know we're running out of land so let's put it on a boat see what happens I mean we did the we did a cruise with 311 like four years ago and then we just this past march we did one with uh flogging molly and then we're going to do another one in october for the warp tour and it's just it's so ridiculous i'll be honest with you man it's like good ridiculous yeah it's a lot of fun I mean because it's I hate the idea of being on a boat like in a the truest sense like being on an open ocean is not exciting to me at all like I'd rather just fly to the place and sit on the beach and then fly back home yeah then you know fucking pretend like it's 1918 I always think I like the titanic and like here we go you know it's shitty yeah but it's never really shitty it's just you know funny it's because at the end you're in uh you're on a boat with a bunch of your best friends and everybody gets drunk and you kind of you know even though fans are there it's usually really cool vibe you know so um the the two that we've done we had a really good experience on and like I said it's just different something but we've also done cruises around like New York I've been on those yeah and I thought we were going to die yeah like a punk show on a boat yes then those were great those were awesome I got scared I thought people were going over the side I was a little scared yeah yeah but is it but the danger factor is so important you know what I mean like it's so lost in punk rock these days yeah and I like to feel a little scared on stage it's good that's why I liked punk rock to begin with when I was a kid wasn't to go out and you know feel safe if I wanted to feel safe I would stay home I wanted a little danger I didn't want to get stabbed or anything but you know just some mild drowning yeah a little punchy stab he's not that bad you know on Friday ah that's the quote right there well well you've done a lifetime worth of touring and I always love to ask ask musicians this bands who have spent a lot of time on the road um I'm a big UFO guy and big in the the UFO community so get asked have you ever seen a UFO on tour probably you know definitely I've seen things where I'm just like that's odd you know but I don't know if if in I know that we're not the only beings in the universe like how fucking you know seriously how egotistical human beings to think that we're like the only like sentient beings that we're not you know but I don't know who else and what else exist or you know what's around but if they want if they're able to travel here then when they want to expose themselves to us they will you know but like again sounds very sexual it really does humans will I was going to say present themselves that doesn't make it any better I don't think yeah but humans are so egotistical you know they would just be like ah fake news or whatever you know what I mean and so it's so hard to disseminate what is true from false these days just think up is down and down is up and I am uh it's hard to have those conversations about you know what is true and false and so like when it comes to aliens I believe in aliens I believe in ghosts you know the whole thing everything that you were told doesn't exist probably exists you know but they just want to keep everybody nice and calm without handing out Xanax to everybody which they should just hand out Xanax to everybody be a lot easier yeah tell us all what's going on with the side of Xanax and we all will be great yeah plan can't be any worse than it is now okay it'd be way better than it is now so much better yeah yeah you would know you know imagine what Donald Trump found out when he became president I caramba you know whatever he found out he's forgotten by now probably and he should never have found out in the first place I think he's an alien anyways to be honest with his plant he might be but I think that's offensive to aliens so yeah it might be it definitely might be offensive well I know politics is something you follow closely and uh you're super active on on social media and you know I for one find your posts uh good good entertaining reading I know not everybody agrees and people hate you but that means you're doing something right but yeah I mean opinions are like assholes everybody has one and thinks everybody else's stinks yeah and I'd be honest with you man it's twitter to me has always just been like a live journal and I just post on it and if people want to like tell me what they think well I will either engage or block and that's fine because this is my world not yours yeah that's right the internet where I live in my uh social media the idea of it is to be social and if you don't want to be social or you think that I'm gonna if that I really care what you think I don't I don't don't it's uh sometimes I get mad and then I just remember that there's a block button block features a awesome man or mute yeah it's better because if you block then people can uh well that's like a a trolls victory because if you block somebody so I prefer to mute them because they never know and they can just keep writing to me and I'll never never engage and they won't get what they want which is attention because apparently their parents didn't give it to them so that's why when it comes to uh social media I appreciate when people say things or they have like they want to have a logical discussion totally involved but it's just like fuck you all right you're cool too well lady how aggressive do people get with you um sometimes more than others like I got into it with some real Trumpy troll one time and you know it's just like a guy who's got like four because I wrote to it's one of those uber conservative people uh that said something about transgender people you know like said something along the walk yeah the penis you're a man you know it's just like show me on the doll where your daddy touched you mark I think with a comment to the guy and you know what I meant and the guy goes to me you're touching dolls now and so I just went right at him I was just like yeah you want to borrow it you know and just to be right back and forth and he's just some he could have for all I know it could have been a bot is just you know whatever but it seemed like a no like a regular guy who lives in his parents basement in Michigan or something and you know probably has a bunch of guns and good for him you know that's the way it is in American I guess you know and uh and then I felt bad about that's where I feel bad of oh I let him get to me you know and then that's his that's like oh you let him win so if you don't engage you know trolls feed off of attention yeah so if you don't engage then you don't give them what they want and then if you ignore them they go away because they'll go troll somebody else that'll give them what they're looking for you know so and I don't really have that many followers and like to be honest with you man like let's be real I'm a saxophone player in the ska band you know you're you'd get more followers if you engage with your high school janitor probably so I don't get I don't understand why people I try to be thoughtful when I post things and I try not to uh I don't really want to piss anybody off I like to make people think you know and more so I like to make people laugh but people get so touchy you know they're so it's modern America nobody wants to think or be you know made to use their brains or laugh you just want to be flattered and then it's it's too social media is weird it's twofold you know because it's given the platform to the voiceless who probably should have remained as such and it's also you're there and people they think that their opinion matters and sometimes and it does you know what I mean because people like that the Pepsi commercial is such a perfect example that with Kylie Jenner that her name Kayleigh Jenner asked Jenner one of those one of those Kylie Jenner yeah uh Caitlyn Caitlyn's daughter Bruce Caitlyn's daughter right her I don't even know who the fuck she is I didn't know who she was to begin with and I see this thing like what's going on with this Pepsi commercial and I watched it and I was like oh man like this is ridiculous and like when you think about it if you just strip away politics and you strip away the culture in which we live in it was some white chick in a jean jacket that costs more than most people make in a fucking year walked up to a cop and gave him a Pepsi because the cop was thirsty and wanted a Pepsi you know but everybody turned in so this is a black lives matter problem and this is a thing and this is a bat and you know and then Pepsi responded because the world said or at least the country of the majority of the country said we're gonna boycott I honestly couldn't interview I honestly couldn't decide if Pepsi was actually doing it on purpose just to get more of media attention because you'd get more attention for being controversial and seemingly appropriating something that people hold dear or then making just a standard commercial like Cindy Crawford's commercial from 92 where she's just a hot girl drinking a Pepsi yeah and people get mad about dumb ad well no people just get mad like I said they it's it's the internet has given the voice to the voiceless and they are using it and they probably just remain voiceless you know and again when you try you pt Barnum says you can't you can't make everybody happy all the time right or you could fool is it you could fool everybody something like that you know it it doesn't matter you're never gonna make everybody happy you know but if you everybody's opinion they're gonna give it to you you know so you have to be thoughtful and I try to be thoughtful about it you know and sometimes you say things and I can't control who likes or retweets what I said I can't control that like once you put it out there it's just out there you know so you know that's usually when somebody like Haley Williams is a good friend of mine and so she retweets me I know she does it because I'll get a bunch of notifications you know but I'm not mad at her for thinking that liking what I said you know and like the other day I posted about the Syrian attack and I said you know pray for the troops and pray for the civilians in Syria and somebody wrote me you have to choose I'm like and I my response to the person who's gonna be like you know both sides both of those groups it's not their fault that they're where they're at you know it's just what it is and like I hope you understand that like I'm not praying for the leaders who are making the dumbest decisions I'm praying for the people that have to sit there and do things that they probably don't want to do you know and be in situations that they don't want to be in and people are just fucking heartless and they say things to get a response and it's uh it's sad because there's no accountability for what's being said yeah and president absolutely shows that he puts it out like that there's no accountability for what he's saying and when he's asked to be accountable he just doubles down and says well you know whatever and then says something else to make you forget about what he just said you know and that's the new cycle culture in which we live and that's an unfortunate thing you know I try not to be too involved and I try not to post too many things but man it's concerning on a lot of levels you know and everybody because nobody 10% of the people that I know in my life voted for Donald Trump so I know a lot of people and I can't believe that there's more than that that really thought that back I was going to do a great job you know I could understand how people could look and say oh he's not a career politician so he's a businessman so we're in a you know the thralls of a recession so we need somebody that's going to shake things up and not be a career politician well all it did was logjam everything in Washington first 100 days nothing has gotten done and it's a lot because it's a fucking log jam right yeah and that's an it's embarrassing because when I go to other countries I get the same question did you vote for him no I didn't but sorry you know a bunch of people did 60 million people as a matter of fact did and they he won he won because of the system that's set up and so here we go strap in because we're stuck this is what it is for at least four years maybe eight and that's why now we need less than jake music more than ever no we just need to uh everybody just needs to really take a step back and just kind of see the big picture you know everybody's too focused on the details you know it's an unfortunate thing because if you focus on the details too much even when it comes to music writing you lose the focus of the big picture you know nobody cares about that double eighth note that you want to put in that promise I promise they don't care about the eighth note hi-hat pattern versus the sixteenth note hi-hat pattern you do you know but just is the song good yeah you know how about that switch from politics to music I like it I like expertly done yeah try and get that try and get that out of all time low so you uh last year I think um started rolling a podcast are you still doing that at all no I have to do it again I actually dude you have a you have a really good radio voice too but uh those those were fun yeah I got really lazy about it at some point like I was on warp tour and I was just like this isn't fun for me anymore yeah it just seems like something I have to do you know and like unfortunately in my life I've always done the fun things I'd rather hang out than work does that make sense absolutely it does yeah out with friends then then work or talk about music or talk about my band or you know I'd rather talk about baseball than talk about less than jake even though I love less than jake and you know what I get it yeah um it's just not a just not something that I enjoy talking about it's like talk like I don't know when you go to work it's like do you want to talk about work all the time some people do and like I said it's not that I don't love what I do it's just interviews you know I get to do an interview with you guys and it's awesome but doing an interview when I'm just sitting at the bar is not very awesome yeah it's like here yeah it's like professional chefs you think they race home and are excited about cooking like probably not like no fuck no yeah hell no oh maybe they are maybe they are different you know all the all people are different yeah very true yeah all right do you listen to music in your spare time yes effort okay oh yeah yeah I listen to stuff I try to discover new music and you know listen to modern stuff and you know try to always go back to old stuff that I loved you know um what was I listening to today okay there's a rapper he's a brime rapper from the uk his name is Stormzy and his record kid I'm not that one I got but he's very good um I really liked it and then my friend Billy cottage who plays in real big fish he just released a record with his uh side band and I have to look up the name of it hold on let me look at the name of it because I just downloaded it and it's really good and I feel like I should drop his um it's the feel goods they're called and it's really good it's actually better than really good so it's uh somebody should check that out and you're uh I think you're a fan of one of Amy's favorite bands right now the interrupters right yeah the interrupters are great yeah well this guy's fantastic do you like the interrupters I love them yeah I don't it's it's just yeah I mean I love anything that Tim Tim Armstrong touches basically but yeah Tim Armstrong touched me once did he I touched I touched Tim Armstrong once it wasn't weird though he was walking through a crowd and I touched his back and I was like dude you're my height and then he walked away and that was it yeah it's a good moment he's an enigma it's a good man good human yeah he's also on the x-files I like that yeah he was that's right yeah all right let's get into some more of your nerdery um I'll ask you Star Wars or Star Trek Wars Wars for sure all right Trek old um I love deep uh the next generation Star Trek the next watch that a lot but definitely Star Wars all right what about what are your thoughts and I will say this um up front that I haven't actually seen a Star Wars movie since high school um what are your thoughts on the new like insane franchising that Disney's doing with it with like a movie every other year are they good like all my Star Wars friends are just sort of like man but I still can't not love it if I paid four billion dollars for something I would definitely do everything in my power to get that four billion dollars back yeah and it's a franchise like that where you could put out a million things and there's a million once they start licensing everything that was one thing that George Lucas never did is he never licensed a bunch of stuff he did like the toys but to get a license to do the Star Wars property was pretty impossible and as soon as Disney bought it well there were pop figures for everybody and I got it I got a R2 D2 french press for Christmas and that's rad I love that yeah I mean like there's it's but like I said because there's so much nerdery that is surrounded by what it is so if you can make Star Wars anything it's just like when Disney bought them up it's franchise you know it's just like market the shit out of it because there's a whole group of people that want it so do I think they're good the movies I didn't I didn't see the Rogue One movie I'm kind of stuck just with the uh the new Hope series you know I guess that was what the original just Star Wars I think that I'm just good with that but there's always been a bunch of offshoots like Marvel had a whole bunch of comics that were involved you know with Star Wars and stuff like that and there's always been like a bunch of you know offshoot books and stuff like that because people want that there's a lot of people want it I don't personally want it but um I think it's awesome I've always loved Star Wars so is the new stuff as good no because when I was that was when I was like a kid things are never as good as they are when you're a kid they're not they're never gonna be just like remaking the movies from when we were kids they're not going to be as good even if they're a million times better they're still not going to be as good I had this conversation about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles yesterday actually those movies were amazing when I was six don't ever want to see them again yeah and then you watch them now and you're like they just you know what they re-released on Netflix um He-Man and the Masters of the Universe cartoon series do you read it really that's amazing oh I love she rose yeah and gem and the original Voltron that's all and so when I was a kid it those were some of my favorite shows like He-Man was really my favorite yeah of the shows and uh I've watched it since and I've realized that it's really not that rad that they use a lot of it was very cheaply done you know the recording of the vocals and stuff like everything is He-Man's voice is it has so much reverb on it when you listen to it I'm just like what and so like I said when you watch something that was so magical when you were a child you know and I was like eight years old nine years old when that came out when it was like popular it was so magical when I was a kid now is you know 40 year old man I'm watching it I'm just like noticing all the inconsistencies and what's crappy about it instead of just enjoying it for what it is then you realize that of course you are going to not like New Star Wars movies if you're a fan of the old ones because you're not a kid anymore and your magic has been stripped away from you by society and the internet so that's why I you know I understand why people's opinion like you know they have their opinion that it's a bad thing but some people just can't accept it for what it is you know try to remove yourself from being a fucking asshole for an hour and a half and just enjoy the goddamn movie but already you know like I said it's hard that's really hard for people to do you know it's hard for me to do sometimes especially when it comes to that music yeah you know I was watching um uh WrestleMania right I'm a huge wrestling fan and I have a bunch of friends that are you know wrestlers and stuff like that and so I'm watching WrestleMania and the girl came out to sing uh America the beautiful it wasn't the star spangled banner they never seen the star spangled banner at the WrestleMania it's always like uh yeah I think it's America the beautiful and I'm listening to her sing and I was maybe a little drunk and I said here's another mediocre pop artist that they're trying to tell me can sing good you know and it's just when it comes to like those kind of pop artists I'm just like oh there's so much mediocrity out there you know it's just these mediocre singers that they dress up and somebody writes a song for them and they think it's going to be popular and they're just looking for that one hit you know because they labels big major labels now they don't know how to market a sustainable career they just know how to market one song the iHeart radio you know it's unfortunate but yeah you know so and I try to be nice but I can't be nice because nice doesn't nice has never gotten me anywhere honest to meet places so being honest is me being an asshole like I used to always agree with Simon Cowell on that I've never watched that American Idol show yeah the first like two episodes because you get all the nightmares that would come in there and they'd be like I can sing I can I can sing and they get in there and just crash and burn and you'll be like I would laugh you know because yeah maybe Simon Cowell was an asshole but to me asshole is just you being honest you know and it's there's a lot of mediocrity out there and people are made to be fed and they're supposed to be satisfied with mediocrity and that's not cool you know well I'll be honest I won't lie when you when you said that you had friends who were wrestlers what flashed in my mind was Chris Rhodes like wearing a wrestling outfit yeah he's he thinks he's a wrestler does he really he would love to think he's a wrestler but no we you know we we are fans we sit around and we watch on Monday nights when I'm home we still go and watch on uh we watch raw and stuff like that that's awesome drink a couple of beers and kick it but uh you know it's again it's one of those things when the the the magic is kind of stripped back and you talk to your buddies about it and you find out what like the real stories are yeah like I don't talk to other wrestling fans about things that I know because that's I feel like it ruins the experience you know um you should still always have that sense of magic you know what I mean like that what that's what makes you go back right you know you don't want to ruin people's experience and unless you're on the internet in the troll you have the faith you got more numbers in your screen name than letters than uh then maybe you do want to ruin people's experience a little bit a little bit a little bit a little bit well we have one more question for you that we ask every all of our guests at the end of the show and Amy why don't you go and ask him so because we are both space people we always want to know if you could go to any planet or any moon in our solar system and time to travel wasn't an issue oxygen gravity none of those things mattered where would you like to go and why mars um because there has been two really important songs written about mars in my life one is uh life on mars by david bowie probably the greatest pop song ever written in my opinion and uh nothing ever happens on mars from the movie waiting for guffman nice equally is an important song if you've never seen waiting for guffman it's that's like you have to watch it you have to watch that really it's really that was one that changed that in idiocracy kind of changed my life your perspective on things in different parts of times in my life but waiting for guffman here's a secret i have always wanted to do with less than jake the waiting for guffman ep which would be all the songs from waiting for guffman bios someday maybe maybe i'm giving this idea away yeah but maybe somebody would do it but i would love to do it because there's some really classic songs there but uh yeah so i probably would just want to go to mars because it's far enough and just not close enough you know what i mean just far enough just not but uh just not but still close enough that i could go and i feel like it could sustain life and i feel like it could be a good place maybe there would be less retards did i say retard i didn't mean that i guess i meant um assholes yeah assholes assholes works yeah for sure maybe you know but sometimes that's sometimes it has to happen i guess so yeah mars that's where i would go i like it yeah good choice if we could just break through that you know solar field around the isn't there some like kind of field that we can't break through not why they say that the you know there's a whole conspiracy theory about people not if not landed on the moon right oh yeah amen welcome to my life how do you guys feel how do you guys feel about that conspiracy theory that landed on the moon well this is what i spend most of my career doing is proving to people that we did land on the moon because i am an apollo era historian okay um and i actually just did a second video on my channel about proving that we did go through the van allen belts and actually looking at the types of radiation that you deal with and looking at the radiation that hit the astronauts on the uh decimeters on their bodies um and the uh you know the short the coles notes um they got hit with about as much radiation as a single CAT scan to the pelvis which is not that much radiation right so you wear a lead belt over your they did they did go through the van allen belts no the the issue that people like to harp on and i honestly like i get i get a lot of angry people you get angry people that like politics i get angry people for science um we have this conversation with our bass player roger because yeah he is one of those people who says roger's a conspiracy theorist that's amazing oh yeah you know the old cone head man on the moon and he believes that we have not that's awesome we will have that conversation with him for sure that conversation needs to happen in this what year if i would love to get see him get schooled or at least watch that argument happen well i'll tell you what when we do have roger on we'll have you on too well we'll do a we'll do a nice round table discussion about it so you can be there to laugh at him yeah i mean i i am the guy who i don't really care if they they did or not to me i just i'm like of course they landed on the moon what are you a fool what are you talking about i like to stir the pot you know that's fantastic now we're gonna do this this is gonna be fun well thank you for that information because this is really happy to help up actually with them i'm gonna be like dude i met this woman and she's gonna tell you what's up oh i have a whole series on my channel about proof that we landed on the moon that's awesome all these different things i'm actually working on another one there's a super cool thing they used a spacecraft to actually find a blip in a topography that is corresponds to the height of the descent stage that they left on the moon surface wow it's so it's like the nerdiest thing ever but i met these nerds at nasa who were like please take our knowledge and tell the world i was like i will do that thank you that's great no i mean it's because that's the whole thing i feel like i want it to be real i don't want it to be like kind of made up thing but you got to admit there's some things in the videos that you can see that maybe doesn't you know maybe looks like it could have been filmed in my back sure you know you can definitely see you where the where the conspiracy theorists get their their ammo but you know i've also met buzz aldrin and don't don't say that to his face because he's a curmudgeon league no i would i don't want to get punched that's right that's right yeah i mean there's i mean there's internet theories out there though so i mean you know that's why i don't i don't really believe i don't i tend not to believe conspiracy theories but i sure like to rile people up that do you know well we'll definitely get roger on and we'll have you on and you can be our official pot stirrer i love it oh my god this is gonna be awesome wrong dude yep exactly well jr where where could people go online you're all over online but where would you like people to go to follow uh what you're up to oh if you're gonna follow me probably twitter or instagram is good and it's um less than jr and that's everywhere i think there's like a snapchat account that i go to occasionally too um don't worry not that intense i only post like once a day it's not like you know you everybody has that friend yep that post like like everything that they do and then it's their dog a hundred times or their kid a hundred times like all right i love dogs and i love kids but come on let's reel it in here a little bit so um and then if you want to follow my band it's less than jake and it's all over the internet so just find it sure you'll find something you might not like what you find but maybe you will and sound the alarm new album just recently came out right i was going to say just dropped but it's been out for a little while now but yeah a couple of months you know yeah we should definitely plug that because it's awesome i love it it's a seven song e p and thank you very much i'm glad you like it um we didn't have enough good songs to make a full record so we decided to make a really really good e p instead of a mediocre rec full length you know somebody said why don't you just throw three bummers on there and yeah no we're not going to do that we're not in the business of putting out not good songs and uh i'm glad that people i'm really glad that people like it because we work pretty hard on it so awesome rad well yeah i'm i'm all over the internet give us your social i guess uh rogue planet rogue planet rogue planet dot tv the website at acentric on twitter and instagram and other places too how about you Amy perfect yeah i am i'm right here at uh i think at this point we're going to be on vintage space so right here on vintage space with all your space history nerdery needs and also on twitter at ast vintage space same on instagram and that's about it um so yeah i guess we'll wrap this one up thank you so much for coming on and actually talking to us jar this is awesome i'm like kind of nerding out to meet you a little bit um but yeah this is awesome well thank you i hope you had fun i hope this wasn't like the most boring interview you've ever done no i feel like i just started and that's great because i looked up and it's the fourth inning of the baseball game and i know that we started talking um when the game first started and for you guys to drag my attention away from yankees game you're doing pretty good i feel bad now though don't don't feel bad feel bad if they were losing they're winning right now but they could be they could be losing very soon i'm sure well you are right we're just getting started that's what it feels like so well we will get you back on and and we'll we'll drag roger on and we'll have some fun great and when you guys get roger on that's when i will drink yes yes we will make sure to schedule that when no one has to drive afterwards and we'll get big beers and big whiskies i'll make boiler makers yes love it that's a plan perfect