 First question is from Elfer's 215. Can heavy caffeine intake make it more difficult to drop body fat? Oh, actually that's... And they put six to eight cups. Yeah, that's actually a pretty good question. I mean, look at me. Well, I mean, the whole cortisol thing, right? We talk about cortisol junkies. Yeah, well, the studies show that caffeine has a positive effect. In other words, it helps burn body fat, it helps press appetite, give people energy, burn more calories. In terms of kinesthetic movement. Yeah, but the problem with that is that there's definitely a subset of the population that doesn't do well with caffeine, and if you abuse caffeine, it definitely induces this kind of stress state in the body, which can probably make you overeat or make you not move as much. I know if I have too much caffeine, I get this paradoxical effect where my energy's not higher, it's actually lower, and I feel more depressed. Well, to Justin's point, isn't the research that supports the benefits of caffeine in regards to the movement? It's not necessarily like caffeine goes in your system and helps speed your metabolism up or burn body fat. It's that when you're on caffeine, you, for the most part, should have more energy or activity. That's got to be most of it. I mean, studies will show that it improves insulin sensitivity, or at least coffee in particular. But, you know, here's the thing with caffeine. Does it improve your health or does it take away from your health? Because I've worked with lots of clients who had this kind of HPA access dysfunction, back then they used to call it adrenal fatigue, overstressed, overworked, hormone imbalances, and caffeine was not good for them. In fact, taking caffeine away after they adjusted improved their ability to burn body fat and build muscle. So, it's one of those things. It's got to be the right dose and for the right person. Too much is bad. It'll make everything much worse. Yeah, I mean, if it's taken away from your recovery, if it's hindering the quality of your sleep, you know, all these things you have to kind of factor out because those do contribute massively towards your goal of losing fat. There's going to be a massive individual variance here. Huge. My personal, so when I start to feel to your point, Sal, when there comes a point when I've been increasing my caffeine intake over time, that all of a sudden I get to this place where I'll have the fourth or fifth cup of coffee or a rock star or energy drink, and I actually get tired almost right afterwards. It gives me an additional little bit of a spark, and then 30 minutes later, I'm just like, grr, groggy. It's a sweet spot if you teeter over. Yeah. I have the same experience. And so I know that as I start to slowly, because I always go all the way back down to my baseline for me is one cup of coffee in the morning when I start my day. It's kind of like how I reset, right? So I'll go, I like that, just like waking up to that. Once I start to scale up to beyond that and I start to feel those adverse effects where either one, I get tired and I dip early in the day because almost I've had too much, or if I start to see it start to affect my sleep, which both those start to, and for me, that starts to happen, which is whatever the amount of caffeine is in, a rock star and two cups of coffee is kind of my threshold. Once I peek over that. Probably around five or 600 milligrams. Well, I mean the rock stars to 20 coffee is probably a hundred or 80 each. It depends how big the coffee is. It's just a normal cup of coffee. It's not like a Starbucks venti I'm talking about. I take caffeine in typically capsule form. So it's measured. And I know for me it's about 300 to 400 max. And if I work it up, work up to that. The funny thing about caffeine is it's the most widely used and I would say abused drug in the world. It's super acceptable, but it's a classic drug, classic. You build up a tolerance. It's got very bad withdrawal. Very addictive. Oh, very addictive. Go off. Anybody who drinks coffee or has caffeine on a regular basis, stop cold turkey and then experience some of the worst withdrawal you've ever experienced in your life. I've gone off cannabis cold turkey and it wasn't as bad as going off of caffeine. So it's just one of those things, but it's the right dose. I know for me the right amount of caffeine, for example, will give me a better workout. Too much makes my workout way worse. I think the point of this question is that is caffeine have a mechanism that directly affects fat storage, which I don't think that's true, but I do think that to our point, you can get to a place where you're having so much of it that it then begins to affect energy levels, which then can affect workout potentially and or sleep. And if you start messing with sleep, then yes, that will affect recovery, building muscle and those things. Is it cause and effect? But there's not like a, oh, once you hit over 400 milligrams of caffeine, you now start to store more body fat or something like that. No, that's not how this works, but each person probably has a threshold to where you start to see some side effects that could negatively affect you in your pursuit of fat loss or building muscle. Yeah, cause the thing is, it's a central nervous system stimulant. So theoretically it makes you burn more calories, but when you really look at the, you look at, just look around, look how many people have caffeine and how many people are obese. It doesn't make up for extra calories. It doesn't make up for eating poorly or not exercising. And again, I'm gonna make this, I can't stress this enough. If caffeine is causing your health to decline, if it's reducing your ability to thrive, if it's causing stress effects in the body, then it's gonna hurt your ability to build muscle or burn body fat because when you're unhealthy, your hormones are off, you're not getting as good of sleep, you don't feel as good. And in that state of being, you're not gonna be as effective. I just think it's a good habit for everybody. Even if you love caffeine and you don't think there's any negative effects from it, it's just a good habit to bring yourself down every once in a while. Every three or four months or six months, if you know you've been consistently having X amount and that X amount continues to grow, that it's probably smart. And I mean, for the least, it'll be cheaper for you. If you get into a place where like I said, where I have a Rockstar, two coffees, that's basically three, six, $10 of caffeine that I'm taking in a day, completely going back all the way to the direction, then it only cost me the $2, $3 for a cup of coffee to get the same effect. So I mean, I think for financial reasons, it's smart to do it and then also for the addictive properties that come with it.