 Namaskaram, Victoria, wonderful. I've just been a little while ago been watching all your magic points that you scored. Oh, what a girl. Oh, thank you so much. It's… it's… it's my true honor to speak with you. I'm… I'm very, very excited and I've been actually thinking about this… this moment for… for a while now and I'm just very, very happy that I'm here today speaking with you, so it's… it's my honor. Victoria, the thing is right now, this conscious planet movement, hmm… well, it's picked up very well on the ground, lots of heads of state are all coming together. All UN agencies, we have formed partnerships with them. They're all going. Yeah. Lot of, you know, political leaders, social celebrities, movie stars, musicians particularly, sports people are also coming in now. So it's going very well on the ground. So from March 21st, I'm riding from London to India through twenty-five nations. So this is one hundred days. From March 21st, one hundred days, we want the whole world to talk about soil. So simple thing is whatever tweets you do, whatever messages you do, just instead of saying, I love you, you say save soil because that's the only way we can express our love to future generations. Really. Yes. Yeah. And one of the… one of the things I've… I have been before… before anybody reached out to me, I've watched a lot of videos about this movement before and I love the idea and the way you describe in that for future generation, you know, my generation, I don't think of myself as old, still only thirty-two, but I have a son who is five years old and I feel like to get him educated on those type of things is really, really important. And that's, you know, what… his generation is the one who is going to be part of, you know, future and probably affected more than our generation. So I always… that's kind of my mission also as a parent to make sure that I give him tools and understanding of the planet. I grew up on… not on the farm, but my grandparents, my parents, they had a summer house where they taught us all about how to understand the soil, how to grow vegetables, how to be more in touch with nature. So I grew up knowing and understanding that, but in, you know, in society that we kind of live it now with all the technology and everything, it becomes a bit further away from more natural ways. So something that I would love, you know, also for my son to understand and be in touch with. And thank you for, you know, bringing the light to this issue and I hope that obviously with your mission and little part of what I can do is to educate people more on the importance of it. So the important thing is everybody who matters in the world, we do it in a coordinated way that for these one hundred days we want the entire world to speak of soil from March 21st, one hundred days. So that's what we are activating. I don't want to call this my moment because this is not about me. This is about life on the planet. This is a generational responsibility. See every responsible scientist in the world right now is pointing out, by 2045 we will be producing forty percent less food and our population will be 9.2 billion. That is not a world in which you would want to live. Compared to me, you're thirty two, you're still a baby only, okay? So and you have a baby and a smaller baby. You know, in twenty years time, where I will be is a question mark but all of you will be around on this planet and it's very, very important because soil is not our property. It's a legacy that's come to us from previous generations. Keeping it alive and passing it on to next generation is a most important responsibility that we have. People have been dodging soil as a issue for a variety of reasons. I don't want to go into the politics of it. But right now in the last two years that I've been working on this project, I have spoken to many, many scientists, many heads of states, various leaders, celebrities. Till now I have not met one person who's spoken in negative. All of them want this to happen. Because one important aspect of the project and movement is that it is not against anybody. This is not against chemical fertilizer, this is not against oil company, this is not against anything. This is about keeping the soil alive. This is not about, you know, what country you belong to, what race you are, what religion you are. It doesn't matter what… whatever you may believe in. But essentially all of us come from the soil and we definitely go back to the soil one way or the other. So… Yes. It reminds me of your question and answers that you do with the sessions where you talk if people don't believe that you're going to die some day, that you're going to end up in a big surprise at some point. So, yeah, that reminds me of that. If you don't mind me asking, I wanted to kind of ask you this question. I'm, you know, I'm a professional athlete and we have this kind of, I think the culture where a lot of people talk when you are an athlete, you have to go through pain and no pain, no gain is one of the things that is the biggest slogan. And throughout my career and throughout my childhood, you know, I had a pretty not easy way to get to my professional career, but it was always about, you know, kind of fighting the adversity and proving people wrong and that was the core of my motivation to make it to the top of my sport. And then it faded very quickly after I've got there and I realized that that type of motivation that came from other people was never sustainable for me. And I'm finding the new, I'm finding a new way of, you know, a new way of motivation in my career and I realized more and more with practice that I do that it's all about inner confidence and in how what you can do and how you can motivate yourself and it doesn't depend on anybody else. So that's a, that's an interesting way of completely different approach in, you know, in sport. And I see a lot of young people that I love to mentor and when, when I think about myself as a younger kid, I wish I had somebody who, you know, maybe could have explained to me a little bit better. So that's kind of… When you were fifteen, I was still around, huh? When you were fifteen, I was still around. It was, but there was no YouTube that, that there was no YouTube. There was harder to, to get the information that, that you, that's so easily accessible now and, and that's what I feel like with younger generations that some of, who are responding really well to me, how I can also explain that to, to them a little bit more because it's, it's a very interesting dynamic that doesn't, I think, ever talked a lot about sport and I was wondering if you could give me some thoughts. So yeah, Victoria, it's like this. Do you enjoy hitting the ball? Yes. You love hitting the ball, isn't it? So that's all it takes. See, the problem is most sports people are going like this. It is not necessary because your, your sport, art, these areas, arenas of life are such that you're doing something that you love to do. At the same time, everything else is happening out of that. So when you're doing something that you love to do, you just have to love little stronger. That's all. You should not love victory, you should not love the trophy, you should not love the money. You should just love hitting the ball. If that is very strong in you, you will hit the ball really well. If you hit the ball really well, somebody else will keep the score, I'm saying. That's all that matters. So unfortunately, you know, people are always wanting to win the game. See, in yoga there is a saying, if you have one eye on the goal, you got only one eye to find your way, which is very inefficient. You need both the eyes to take the next step. So every shot that you play is more important than you winning. Winning will happen because you got the right shots. Not because you want to win, everybody wants to win. Everybody has a desire to win. Desire is not going to get us there. What is going to get us there is just that we are doing what we are doing really well. You know, like here you must come, someday you will definitely come to the yoga center and see how everything is being done. We have business programs where top CEOs come. They're all looking at the place and say, Sadhguru, how does it run like this? Everything is happening like clockwork, but nobody is managing anything. Everything is happening well, how is this? So I told them, see, you are all devoted to the goal. You want to achieve something, we are just devoted to the process. Because if you do the process well, the goal will come. Not because you desire the goal, it is going to happen to you. Every fool wants to win, all right? But will they win? It's not going to happen out of your desire. So being devoted to the process, hitting the ball is not going to happen. Ball is the process, and that's all that matters, how you hit it. Whether it's in or out, somebody is going to look at it. What is the point? Somebody is going to look at it. Who is the winner? Somebody is going to look at it. You don't have to look at all those things. You don't have to be motivated like this. Just with great joy, hit the ball, and your body and your mind functions at its best when you're joyful. I would like to see athletes laughing. I keep always using this with athletes because they're so serious and they're like, you know, they're looking like death. What is the point? You're doing something that you love to do and what is the point of this? So I always give this example of the only one athlete that I know who is always grinning is Ronaldinho. You know footballer, such a big grin on his face, no matter what sort of match winning or losing. Because you're doing something that you love to do and you will do it best, only if you're in that kind of state. Otherwise, what your competency is somewhere a few percentage points below that you will be. That's not how it should be. What your physical competencies, you must go a few percentage points over that, not below that. And those things happen to every athlete, I'm sure you have experienced it. The moments when you are totally there playing it with great passion for the game itself, those moments you exceed your limits, other moments when you're tense about wanting to win, you come below your own competence. In our lives, if we do not do what we cannot do, there's no problem. But if we do not do what we can do, that's a disastrous life. That should not happen to us. Yes, that's a lot to think about. But I love how simple you always put things in where, like, okay, why didn't I think of that? Why didn't I think of that before? But it definitely is, I think it's very cultural, well, the athletes need to look a certain way and they have to not show any weaknesses and, you know, as you said, being very like focus and, well, focus I think is one thing, but being looking like angry. If you're laughing, if you're laughing, your opponent may not know what to do. Exactly. But the intimidation process, you know, the intimidation process happens sometimes before the game. And it does work at a certain moment when maybe you're not that aware of the game that is played with intimidation, but... No, no, I am aware of all the mental games that people play, but I'm saying this is also a game. See, if you're just joyful... No, no, no, no, no. I mean to say, among the athletes I'm saying, well, especially in the boxing, you know, I've been talking to some of the boxers like Mike Tyson and others. The whole thing is about intimidation, the previous night itself it'll start, start saying all kinds of things, all this. See that is one way of doing it. Another way of doing it is, you go joyfully, even they may not be willing, but you go and shake their hands and say nice things to them and you play joyfully, you will see that will also kind of put them off the rails. But the important thing is not necessarily putting them off the rails. The most important thing is you never go off the rail, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, it's definitely about how it makes you feel. I've noticed that with the more obviously with my career and for me to go through a more of a spiritual process that I've been, I have started in June of 2020 is the... What you do something is how it makes you feel not about other people and what other people do is also how you take it and how you feel about it instead of having the other people affecting how you feel. So there's definitely been a very eye-opening process for me and I really enjoy the journey that I'm learning. I just wanted to mention I've done a Shambhavi Kriya in October and it was very interesting because I was doing it during my tournament and I asked my referee if they could put my matches later so I can do my program in the morning. They did help me out so I was able to do the completion of the hours because when I signed up I wasn't sure where I'm going to be and what my schedule will look like but I was really committed to finishing it and it was such an interesting process because in the beginning when I started the meditation and I always thought that I don't know how to do meditation and it's very difficult and I don't know how to do it and then slowly I started to just accepting the moment and how it is and it really is my medicine every day when I do my meditation and I've noticed one day where I didn't do it the difference how I feel and how much clear I think and it's really transforming so I wanted to thank you for it. It's all yours Victoria you are 32 I feel you need a little bit of upgrade within yourself. If you give us one week a year we will do something with you which will definitely heighten everything because I'm not saying you're old okay 32 is I said you're a baby but I'm saying as an athlete well I see when you were 21, 22, 23 you've done fantastic but because body is not the same at 22 what you are and 32 what you are now it becomes more based on your experience and skills rather than your just your strength. So when this happens how to conserve yourself how not even to make one extra movement that is not needed is something that you have to learn because as you get older conserving ourselves becomes very important to be effective we can't do the same wild kind of things that we were doing when we're 22 so for that process as an athlete I'm sure you know these things but if you spend a week in a year either in United States or in India we will set you up with something there's enough space you can also come with your child it'll be good for him also. Yes I actually because I do meditation every morning and my son knows that please don't disturb mommy when if he wakes up not to do not to disturb me during my meditation and he starts to imitate me a little bit because the way the way the way I think a little bit about parenting is saying something to your child is maybe valuable but showing by example I think it gives so much more so much more benefit to them and I try to approach it with everything like that and my mom told me a couple times that if I go to work earlier something that he just sits down and just you know tries to do a meditation and yeah and actually I have some pictures of when I was playing the match and he was watching my match he's sitting in the meditation mode because so I would love to introduce him a little bit more to that because I know how helpful it is been for me and again I wish I knew that you know when I was a kid but where I'm from it's not it's not very known it's it's not really talked about my parents never never been introduced to any of that they probably still don't understand what I'm actually doing with meditation which is which is absolutely fine but I would love to introduce my son a little bit more and I watched the video where you speak about your daughter and how she was traveling with you everywhere you went and she grew up with you know different surrounding different people and my son is a little bit in that way he travels with me and he spends a lot of time around adults and a lot around kids as well and one of the very interesting points you mentioned is that we don't really you know teach our kids to be one way or the other way is to help them give and give them the tools how they can flourish and develop their own personalities and it's it's it is the approach that I feel the most connected with but sometimes it's it's you know I lose myself with how do I need to kind of impose sometimes a little bit of rules and and a bit of structure and compared to you know kind of giving giving freedom and Victoria Victoria you still haven't seen anything once the boy becomes nine ten he'll give you the works I guess I have time he's only five he's only five so I have time well it's okay children are who they are you it's not that you shouldn't mold them at all but you don't try to mold them to a point that they have to fit into the block that you have in your head they don't have to fit into any block the less blocked up they are the better they are because the idea is the next generation should be freer than us and more joyful than us better than us not less than us or not even like us they don't have to be like us so I mean you don't worry about the boy he will grow up well see all it takes is a loving and joyful atmosphere and you make sure the child never witnesses anger jealousy hatred you know these kind of things that he should never see some things he should not know what it is if he grows up like that he will grow up into a beautiful human being maybe he will he may become an athlete he may not become an athlete that's not our business that's his choice yeah I don't I don't have a specific plan for him I I didn't I was I was actually very fortunate that you know a lot of parents of athletes have a specific specific idea of who they have to be and what they have to do and I've been I've been lucky that my parents wanted me to be the best that I can be and what I what what I want to be so I don't take it for granted looking at you know other other situations so when I think about what my son wants to be I just want to support him and who whatever he wants to be and give him tools to be able to do what he wants to do but in today's western society one important thing challenge you will have is to protect the child from influences which are negative both offline and online influences there is simply chemicals all over the place and you know that one thing if you just make sure that they don't make those kind of associations the rest of it is you know children will grow up well one of the things that I I actually I I've never been really drinking alcohol or anything like that but I thought that if I will have to have a talk with my son you know in 10 15 years about alcohol and he ever sees me drinking alcohol that will be not a very compelling argument from my side so I don't drink any alcohol at at at all and I did it for myself but also in mind with with that and I said okay if he if he doesn't ever see me doing that that hopefully I can I can at least try to give a compelling argument and then we'll see what happens yes very important what example what example you said because children are not listening to you they're only looking at you carefully they're observing everything that you are how you sit stand they're observing you not with any intent simply because they're curious about everything they're looking at it but they're never listening to the advices that you're giving them so the example is the most important thing definitely definitely I don't I don't want to take too much of your time I know you're very very busy and I'm very very grateful for the opportunity to speak to you and I will definitely come to the to the center to continue my practices and in the month of March April where are you Victoria in March I am going to be in United States I'm going to be in California and in Florida and in April I will be in Europe oh April I'm passing through Europe I don't know where you are but I'm going through all the 17 18 nations across Europe so hopefully we will bump in somewhere maybe I hope so maybe we can give you a short ride one 10 20 kilometer ride for you just to have an experience oh that would be amazing that would be really amazing I will believe me you're safe with me you believe me you're safe with me because I've gotten this old without breaking a bone on a motorcycle that means I'm good you know I've I've heard you talk about your your wild rides where you you don't even need to look because you you memorize the the roads so well so I I I believe that you are a very very good rider so I will I would love to I would love to join but thank you so much thank you Victoria and all the best for whatever future tournament you have this year you must do well we are I'll be watching you you must do well thank you so much that girl I appreciate Namaskar