 I was fighting I was getting frustrated and I thought something's gonna happen and as it happened Yeah, I signed with Frank Warren and I had three fights and he promised me all type of fighting that happened You know I had the three fights. I was on Sky Sports, which was great I was where I wanted to be he was getting paid decent money and then Yeah, I was just you know, it was great. I had a fight with Steve Collins Steve Collins was the champion and he sort of He didn't fancy the fight, you know, I you say he's injured a couple of reasons But yeah, I understand why he didn't you know, obviously he's using big fights with you bang and Ben and obviously he's fighting this young kid That's not already got a massive name 20 knockouts and 21 fights. Is it worth the gamble? But then stepped Chris you bank who if anything I was more wary of with a you bank because he's one of them guys But that was backs against the wall. He's a dangerous dangerous fucking anymore But you put him on his ass the first what is it 20 seconds a first minute? That's the thing. It's probably the worst thing I did I knocked my first 20 fights before my hands start packing in because my hands got worse as my career went on I knocked 19 nothing out the first 20 fights and I went eight rounds twice five rounds once everybody else was knocked out first two rounds So he boxing the guy you bank who's been in wars. He's seasoned man. He knows him to get in there I always remember like the press conference. I was cocky as fuck. So I remember I think it's at the Grove And I was like You know me. I'm a fucking boyfriend look on the train Finally, I'm finally got the spotlight. I mean I see his Ali Davis and Love watching you bang band and Collins and all these so remember saying I just remember looking across to him. He's like That's how I'm gonna knock you out He just looked at me when I'm gonna take you to one place, and he never been I'm gonna take you to the wow And I'm looking it was fucking wow, right, but trust me in that fight After three or four rounds I was fucked. That's the only way to explain it. I was exhausted I think that's I didn't know how to sort of pace myself The excitement got to me and dropping him with my first left on like you banks down I'm like trying to finish a bit never thrown everything at him Nothing more disheartening after about five six rounds when you know, you're only halfway for the fight Inside, you know, you're not gonna knock him out And you know, do you see him walking around doing this like walking around the ring and I'm like out of breath I'm patting but you know, it's just exhausted absolutely exhausted and he was true to his promise You know, he did take me to the world and it was by far the toughest fight I ever had as regards to Exhaustion I was fucking completely exhausted man. Like I couldn't move for three days afterwards like lactic acid could not move It was really really tough. And like you said, I succeed only lost two fights prior to that to Steve Collins Yeah Yeah, yeah, I know but he was I think it cuz you bang used to fight you had a good rest and Fuck you as he is tough as people say that I've always rated them people love to hate him People love to because he's that guy when you see him You do want to watch him because it's his carrot This is these things that he does what he says, but what a fighter So when you put him on his ass and he told you look you're coming to the trenches with me But every time I've written a interview I've watched with your bank He's always spoke highly of you because people says you couldn't punch but he says you're fast and you're yeah And it's painful Steve Collins every time I watched him because I watched you's all sit around the table He never ever seemed to give you credit. Why do you think that is? Thank you for your full of you Collins I just think well I to be honest I honestly believe that I believe Collins would have been an easier fight than you but well saying easier because you back was fucking tough Man, do I mean, but I mean I was preparing for you. I was preparing for Steve Collins different style because you bang Like Steve Fallon Collins cuz Steve comes to you. I love counterpunch in there was Lacey fight I love people coming to me. I Was preparing for Steve Collins So when you bang when he sort of retired 10 days before the fire you bang was already boxing on on the card He was already fit But I was more worried about you bang because you know she ran with himself and Michael Watson He got injured so young kid and you see how dangerous he can be you see him against Nigel Ben He goes down he gets back and he's tough and he was hungry. He wanted and I'm like Okay, I was more nervous. I'd be honest you I was more a bit more nervous flying new bank and then I was fighting Steve Collins and Yeah, like I said man, I remember I was supposed to come in the ring at 10 got pushed back to 11 o'clock I didn't get a ring till fucking 12 o'clock, right? So I Got so excited in the change rooms me and dad and both fucking 15 rounds of the pads I remember the ring. I was all like the music Chef of the rear. Oh My I was this like I said, I was I was just After the first couple of rounds, I was tired. I was knackered. I was exhausted They like I said in pace myself nervous energy and so on and imagine everything you've ever trained for all your life on that one night From going not just financially But your dream as a 10-year-old to become world champion against somebody that I've admired and watched as an amateur Watching them against Ben Watson. You've got one day left to fight him and you're fighting him Yeah, you know because when you won the British title, you didn't look as happy because I think you've done an interview after it says well It's nothing because I want the world title. Then when you eventually won the world title What's that feeling like Joe for everything you've worked hard for everybody kind of underrated at that time people just saying that You're doing shortcuts this and that between beat one of the best one of the greatest How was that feeling? Yeah, it was he was awesome feeling but like it wasn't enough wasn't enough I wanted to be unifiable champion and that's the thing always set myself goals and My dad always said something to me that stuck in my head always train like a challenger and It's when you train like a champion. That's what he lose Don't you know me? So always train like a challenger like so Beating you back. I want to unify the title