 If you want me to continue with my work, it is crucial to support the channel via Patreon. Moreover, make sure to subscribe to Bobby's perspective on Rumble. All the links are in the description box below. May Allah bless you all. Alright guys, welcome back to the channel. If you're new, my name's Bobby. Guys, a very interesting video today. We're going to watch a Christian apologetics lady talking to a Muslima about if Allah loves women. This is of course a very prevalent misconception in the West. Muslim women usually are covered and because they are covered they are seen as somebody that is oppressed. In the West you're oppressed if you're wearing decent clothing, if you're wearing modest clothing, you are just liberated if you take your clothes off. And because the Westerners see the covering as oppressive, this is why they then in turn have to ask the question, does Allah even love women? Before we jump into the video guys, do me the favor so we make it out of the shadow band. Like the video, subscribe to the channel, share it if you can and check out the links in the description box below. With no further ado, let's have a look. Yeah, so I want to see you, madam. What's your... Islam. Islam where you born Muslim? Okay, so yeah I wanted to discuss about Jesus. Like what do you believe about Jesus? Jesus is the prophet of Allah. Okay. Yeah, messenger of Allah. But what do you think he came to do then on earth? Because the story of Iran and the Bible is different. Yes, he came to, you know, preach his nation of that time about the deen Islam. Okay. I mean, for me, it's a bit confusing because I wasn't born Christian and I'm open-minded about different religions. You're here to evangelize. Jesus never mentioned anyone called Allah or any place called Arabia. Christians nowadays are so oblivious to who Jesus Christ truly was. He came from the Middle East. Man, he came from Palestine. And moreover, let's give the Christians a quick lesson. Look how easy this is, dear Christians. You just open up Google and you Google what language did Jesus speak? Then you see it was Aramaic. Now, the next thing you have to do is simply Google, how do you say God in Aramaic? And you find out it is Elah. Elah, Elah, Allah. Coincidence? Christians nowadays really believe that Jesus said God, the Father, Matthew, Mark and John and Luke. He was not a white guy. He spoke a Semitic language that is very similar to Hebrew and Arabic. Consider there could be a chance perhaps that the Jesus in Islam is a different Jesus objectively because I know you're Muslim but objectively because the stories are very different. Not based upon the Bible. In Christianity, as far as I know, they say that Jesus was crucified. But in Islam, we believe that he has been raised. What could I say? In English, he has been picked up by Allah. He is somewhere in heaven. But when the end of time came, like you know, near the time of when everything will be finished, we say the doom day. When the world was finished before that, Jesus will come back to this world and he will come as a normal person, not a prophet. Let me know in the comment section, guys, does he come back as a normal person? I thought he comes back as the Messiah. And that will be the sign of, you know, what we say, sign of the end of everything, like, you know, end of time. So we believe that Jesus is with the Father as well. So in that, you know, we believe God is the Father and then he has a son and the Holy Spirit. So we believe that Jesus is in heaven as well. And we believe Jesus is coming back. But we also believe that he was crucified and resurrected. And this is crucial to our faith. Do you know why Madam Christians believe that Jesus was crucified? I don't have that much knowledge, by the way. I don't have that much knowledge. But only I have little knowledge because still I am, you know, a learning person, you can say that. Yeah, yeah. So in my Bible, I need to get a new cover because I read it a lot. No respect for the Bible. About that, we also believe as a Muslim, we also believe that books have been sent by Allah, that is Bible inclusive. They're in jail. In jail, Bible Torah. She already knows. She's pretending not to know. I'm having an open discussion with the Muslim. But we do believe. We do believe. The Psalms, I think. So you, I mean, this is interesting. You said many things. I mean, to touch on the first thing we mentioned is we believe that Jesus Christ was crucified, not for no reason, but it's because to take on the sins of the world. That's the reason why he was. Yeah, that's what we did for. Yeah, you never heard of this. We don't believe that. All I heard that he was crucified in your religion, but I don't have that much knowledge. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he was crucified, you know, because they believed that he was God, but also to take on the sins of the whole world. And also in terms of the Torah, the Gospel and the Psalms, you're convinced this. So would you say that you have to believe in this? Yeah, this is a major misconception with Christian evangelicals. They believe that we as Muslims are commanded to believe in the Torah and in the Bible, the way that they are nowadays. That is not the case whatsoever. We as Muslims do believe that God has revealed scripture, of course. However, some of them got lost. Some of them got corrupted. We don't know every single scripture that God has sent down. Nor do we know every single prophet that God has sent down. The only thing we know as Muslims that the Koran is the word of God that has been preserved. And even if you look at it from a historical standpoint, if you look at it from a scholarly standpoint, you will see that the scholars will agree, not only Muslim scholars, Christians, atheists alike, they will agree that the Koran has been preserved and the Bible has not been preserved. Therefore, when the Koran speaks about the scriptures that have been sent down, the Koran speaks about that exact time when the scriptures have been revealed, when they haven't been obstructed. This cannot apply to the Bible. As I said, from a secularist perspective, we already know that the Bible has been corrupted. And of course, Islam agrees with that standpoint as well. The Bible is not preserved in its original form. And this is why the Koran does not speak about the Bible, but speaks about the Injil, a specific message that was sent to Jesus for his people at the time. This is what we believe in, the Koran will remain the same until the end of time, until what you say the doomsday or everything will be finished, this world will be finished. But many people say that many changes have been made in these things, so they are not in their real form. Yeah, this is what the Muslim people say, but you know, this is not true. I want to say because we have a Bible from, even in London, there is a Bible in the British Museum from the 4th century, some before Muhammad and all the Bible. So how is this an argument? You say there is a Bible in the British Museum that came 400 years after Jesus Christ. I rest my case. And this is roughly 200 years before Muhammad came. May peace be upon them both. Prophet Muhammad received the revelation that dismantles Christianity, with their claims about the Trinity, etc. How is this an argument? Yet again, that Bible is written in which language? If you look into the New Testament, if you're lucky, it is written in Greek. But as we already established, the language of Jesus was Aramaic. So why don't we find the New Testament, the Gospel in Aramaic? The reason being, because there is none. We don't have any Aramaic scripture. Moreover, we don't know who the authors of the New Testament are. Those are anonymous authors. Yet again, do you really believe they're called Luke, John, Matthew, etc., etc., you name it? Of course not. Those are synonyms and those authors were Greek philosophers, potentially, because the followers of Christ were fishermen. They were not intellectuals. They wouldn't have been able to write the Gospels. Therefore, the question still remains, who wrote the Gospel? And moreover, especially crucial here, crucial is, what was the true message of Jesus Christ? What was the ingeal? Yes, that Jesus Christ was crucified and misdirected. And you know, your Qur'an confirms the Bible and your Qur'an says that Allah's Word cannot be changed. Do you agree with this? Yes, Allah's Word cannot be changed in Qur'an. Your Bible warns exactly against that. Your Bible says that there have been people that twisted the words of God and Jesus Christ himself, may peace be upon him, talks to the Pharisees. The Pharisees have apparently introduced man-made traditions into God's words. This is why Jesus fights off the Pharisees. That's the whole point. So therefore, we see that back in the day people twisted God's words. This has happened over and over and over again. And this is why the Qur'an came as the final message, that cannot be changed to preserve pure monotheism, a pure submission to one God alone, i.e. Islam. But even if the Qur'an doesn't say that the Bible was corrupt. You know, I'm not in the position of saying because my knowledge is limited. No, it's okay, I'm not a teacher, I'm just having a conversation obviously. So no, it's okay, I don't really have knowledge either, but let's just pretend we both do and let's just talk about whatever we want. No, of course not. Within Islam, it is a grave sin to say something wrong about Islam. We have respect of our religion and therefore we don't want to say anything wrong. You should have enough respect of Christianity as well to not say anything wrong. But they don't care. This is what I'm telling you, I know so far. Give me two, I'm not a teacher, I'm just having a conversation obviously. This is what I'm telling you, I know so far and I know like, you know, about my religion, even your religion, Christianity, don't know much about Christianity, but little bit. Yeah, I mean, so Jesus Christ, we believe that he is the Son of God and he came into the flesh and you know, he actually is God that came to speak to us. This is why it's powerful because, for example, Allah, he never came, he never entered creation according to you believe, but Jesus, he entered creation and he spoke to people and even before he was born, because we don't believe he was. Yeah, just like the other prophets that God has sent, all of them spoke to us about the message of one God. He said when he was born, we believe that he came before as well. In the Torah, I can show you, he appeared to people to, you believe in Abraham, we call him Abraham, you believe in Mosul, we call him Moses. These people, they actually met Jesus, is in the back. Yeah, there's absolutely no proof for that whatsoever. There's just outrageous claim that Christians make, they go throughout the Torah and then based upon the perception of having to find a trinity, they then assume that all the prophets that were in contact with God were actually in contact with Jesus, case closed. So we believe that he was born to die and the reason why they put him to death is because he claimed to be God. And the gospel is that we believe that by his blood, our sins are washed away by his blood, but it's a supernatural thing. Yeah, it's definitely a supernatural thing. And point being is, we do not believe that and we never will. In our religion, we believe that God is the most merciful. Hence, we do not believe that he has to sacrifice his own son, nor that he has to sacrifice anybody for that matter, for us to be saved. We sin, we have to account for our sins. Is this too logical for you? And that you receive forgiveness and the Holy Spirit. And this is the gospel. And the gospel never changed. You know, the gospel... What is the Holy Spirit for if God had to send a son that died for us? Why do you then have to send the Holy Spirit? Because it's there for, you know, it's been there for 2000 years. And this is what the prophets were looking forward to. And unfortunately, you know, Muhammad, we understand that he was a messenger, but he doesn't worship the same God. It was, we believe that he was deceived, you know, because the portrayal of Jesus in the Quran is completely different. And, you know, when you say that the Bible... Yeah, just say it right away. The point being here is that she is not coming with an honest discussion. She's not really seeking truth. No, she comes to evangelize. Obviously, she's an evangelical. Therefore, this is very tiresome to watch because she's not truly debating with the woman, trying to understand her position. No, she already has her talking points. Oh, Muhammad was deceived. It's not the same God. And Jesus never knew Allah. It's always the same bunk, man. Passive, aggressive, emotional BS. Just go there, tell her right away. Hey, listen, I believe that Jesus Christ is God. I do not believe in Islam and I want to promote my message, but you do not do that. So therefore, you are what Jesus warned us about. You are a wolf in sheep's clothing. Correct. And I hear many Muslims say this, but they don't have an original copy of the Injil auditorium. Only some Mufti, some scholar can, you know, answer your disquestions. Yeah. Because and about Jesus, let me tell you what he says. So far, I know in the Quran, he was Jesus, or Isa, was born without a father to Maryam. Or you fall in your, you know, Bible Mary. Yeah. So can I ask you when he was born without his father, who was the father of him? Yeah, gotcha. When Adam was created without a father, who was Adam's father? He never had a father. He was the one who was born, like, you know, without a father. Like, you know, I do not have much knowledge, but all I know. It's okay, madam. You have some, like I have basic knowledge as well. Yes. I'm not expecting you. And since English is not my first language. What's your first language? My first language is Urdu, Pashto. Urdu. Pashto, yeah. Pashto. So you are Afghanistan. No, I'm from Pakistan. Pakistan. From Northwest, yes, KBK. Okay. I'm from Swarthvalli. Yeah, okay. Yeah, okay. I don't care where you're from. I just want to read on my phone what I'm going to tell you next. I'm Malala. I've heard of, I think I've heard of this. Is that where Malala is from, the girl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the girl that couldn't study and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I thought she was from Afghanistan. I didn't know. No, no, she was from Swarthvalli and it's in KBK. It's in Pakistan. Okay. Yeah. I mean, so you speak a little bit of Arabic. Little bit, because for a very long time, you know, I'd be not speaking Arabic. Yeah. So, but little bit knowledge. Yeah. So would you agree from your understanding, when you say Jesus does not have a father. Yes. That rule was his father. He did. Or was it Gabriel the father? Because how did Mary have a baby? Because something happened to make her become pregnant. Yes, she became. Do you really believe that God is so limited that he needs a gender, that God truly needs some biological process of birthing? No, it is a miracle. Just as he created Adam without a mother, without a father, then he went on and created Jesus without a father. It is a creation of his. We're talking about God, about a metaphysical being that transcends creation. You must agree with this, because prior to creation, God was. He is the only eternal one. He's not bound to time and space. He's not bound to biology as we are. Therefore, if he decides for Jesus to be born through Mary, he will be born through Mary. If he will decide that Jesus will be born without a father, he will be born without a father. And yet again, if he would have wanted Jesus to be born without a mother as well, he could have done that too, just as he did with Adam. Why are you so extremely limited? Actually, I do have the answer already, because you anthropomorphize everything. God is the Father, Jesus is the Son. We have to understand this. They love each other through the Holy Spirit. Just like we do, eternity makes sense. Of course, are you not body, mind and spirit as well? So is God. No, he is not. He is much greater than anything within creation. And he doesn't have to compare himself to us. And moreover, guess what? As limited human beings, we shouldn't even expect to fully understand God. It is impossible. Pregnant. Some people say, I don't know. I might find it in the Quran. And the Quran says it was rude. That meant... Yeah, the spirit of Allah. Like in the Quran, it says that, anyway, all I know that he was born without a father. And many people pointing like on Mary, Maryam, that how come he was born without a father? And he was like infant at that time. Yes, that's where the Jews believed he was an adulterer. He started speaking even in that time when he was infant. By the miracle of Allah, he started speaking and he testified oneness of Allah. So we believe that Jesus, he did have a father in heaven. God is his father. And we believe that the Quran says the same thing basically. It says that the spirit of Allah, rude, was the father. Now, some translation says it was... The Quran never said that Rukh is the father. What are you talking about? Yeah, so we believe that the spirit of God, the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary. And Jesus basically, he wasn't created. He was born and he was sinless. Now, would you agree that Jesus was sinless? He without a sin. He didn't do anything. So Jesus was the only one that was without a sin. All other humans... Where is this going, man? He was not created. He was born. So would that then imply that we, because we are born as well, are not creations of God? How does this make any sense whatsoever in your worldview? Does God need to snap his fingers every single time he creates something? No, he created creation. Look around you and now within creation there is birth happening. Nevertheless, this of course attributed to the Creator that created everything around you. You know, going back to the love of God, we believe that Jesus Christ, he loves us and he died for us to give us eternal life. And we don't believe that Allah loves people. I don't believe Allah loves women because he sense, you know that Allah sends most women to hell. That's what he says. It's because, you know, it doesn't... She's basing this upon a hadith in which, yes, it states that most inhabitants of hell will be women. So how does this now imply that Allah, God, is simply sending women to hell? Just for the fun of it, of course. Couldn't this have any deeper meaning other than that God hates women? If you look around into modernity, into the times that we are living in right now, a b**ch is rampant. Look at the choices that women make nowadays. Wouldn't those atrocities reserve you a VIP spot in hell? Of course, they would. Therefore, yet again, the hadith simply states that most inhabitants of hell are women. You with your feminist worldview, instead of reflecting, hmm, why would that be? Maybe we as women are not obedient enough to God. No, quite the opposite. You're gonna flip the script and say, oh Allah, bad because he simply sends women to hell. I mean that Allah is going to send all women to hell. But most of them are women. Yes, many people are misunderstood. What does that even mean, man? If you enter a room, for example, in that room you have 10 people. Six people are women. Hmm, most of the people are women. Things, it's because the women are going in the hell because of their tongue. You know, we are back, most of the women are gossiping around people, you know? For example, you are sitting here, I'll give you the example. I go to someone with a job and say, look, oh, she is sleeveless and this and that. This also put, we are becoming sinful. And because we, yeah, I mean, I, you know, I would say all people do this. You know, all people gossip. But also, you know, it says, not only this because of a deficiency in mind, because of menstruation. And so for me, if, you know, if Allah was God, you go to hell because of menstruation. As this person who is inferior, you know, and you know, you deserve half of the inheritance. You can't have your own husband. Again, man, not even the basic knowledge of Islam, but let's speak about it. Let's evangelize. Listen, as a man in Islam, you need to provide a dowry. You need to give money to the woman that you marry. You need to provide that, right? And then you, as a man, need to provide further for that woman and for the children, for the whole family. You need to establish a house. You need to establish the household. You need to feed all of them. So therefore, the responsibility, the monetary responsibility is upon you, not upon the woman. And therefore, logically, the son will inherit more than the daughter. Isn't this just obvious? Because the son will need to provide and the daughter will be provided for. Wow, man. This is so extremely pathetic. Woman, daughter, wife, and woman, daughter, wife, sister, even they have shared in their inheritance. You see the Quran, they have their share. But they get less than the man. Yeah, because the man needs to provide. They get the man because they are also getting from husband as well. Exactly. When husband does one of the inheritance she is getting, the rest is distributed among the, you know, children, depending on children. And if the husband has brother, sister, then most of them as well. I would love to talk to them in person, man. It's so ridiculous. But if your husband divorces you, then you don't get the... Yes, yes, we get. He has to pay this, this, this much money, either in the form of property or in the form of cash. It's written already. And he has to give it. But in the case of, you know... All right, this is it for today's video. Long enough as it is, and for the sake of YouTube guidelines, yet again, this video here is over 40 minutes long. Therefore, I'm going to pause the original video in the description box. If you want to check out the whole video, you can head over to the channel, Apologetics London, and watch the whole thing there. However, for the sake of the response, we're going to cut it off here. As I already mentioned in the beginning, in the West, now it is seen as oppressive if you cover yourself. And we saw the same thing, of course, here with the Christian lady. The Christian lady was not covered. The Muslima was covered. And only if you uncover yourself, you become liberated in the West. Become exactly like us. As long as you're covering yourself, you are oppressed. And Allah, God hates you. He hates you and he will send you to hell because you're menstruating. This is the logic of those so-called Islamophobes. I'm not going to use the term Islamophobes any longer. Those are simply enemies of Islam. This is truly what they are. They come there two-faced with an agenda, pretending to really care. Oh, hello. What is your religion? Hoopsie, I don't know. Or do you speak Arabic? A Ruch? Ruch? Do you know what it means? Isn't that the father? It is so hypocritical. You guys are deceptive snakes. Truly, your own Bible warns against you. You are the snakes talking with a sweet tongue. But in reality, you have malicious intent behind this. You do not care for Islam. You hate Islam. You do not care for that lady. You simply want to evangelize your perceived message of Jesus Christ, which it is not. Just look into it. You don't even have to look into Islam to find out that your Bible has been corrupted, that we do not have the original message of Christ. Look into it. Learn about it. Educate yourself first before you open up your mouth about Islam. All right, guys. But that's it for today's video. 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