 Welcome back to the breakfast in plus TV Africa. It's time for us to take you through the pages of a national deluge We call it the news of the press of course is the newspaper review and we have joining us in the studio this morning Emeka Madhu Nagel. It's good to have you join us. Here's a public affairs analyst We also have a joining also of their Phone GD Johnson chief lecturer at Nigerian Institute of John listen. Good morning to you JJ Good morning. Merci. Good morning Justin. And good morning to Emeka my friend. Yes All right, let's take a look at the leadership newspaper was set up with the leadership We need state police to tackle security challenges from a president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria Lucia go on or pass on Joe. Let's go to them that and it was part of our top trending conversation underneath as President Muhammad the Buhari orders security chiefs to rescue all abducted Nigerians asked them to sit up. I mean it feels like we have been going through this Instructions the president has summoned the president is shocked Having meetings, but that hasn't really translated to actual results. We wouldn't shift 2023 elections over insecurity. I NEC has actually stated that feels like they're having You know two sides of the divide strike You have the ACF offers to mediate in federal government as to dispute Aisha Buhari hosts presidential aspirant to Do you know breaking of the fast bars use of phones Flood Fcta demolishes 400 houses in Guarampa. That's in Abuja and Just before we move away from the leadership this morning Autonomy local governments and not governor's pot of soup That's what house how the label sees it. I mean it really sounds very very interesting But these are the headlines this morning on the leadership newspaper. All right, we'll move on next to the nation newspaper The lead story of the nation this morning Buhari orders a rescue of hostages with kidnappers Which are two riders there and I say why we are not deploying technology I should a bus on Joe. Okay, state police dismisses community police in 2023 One million I NEC officials for 176,846 polling units PDP APC clash of our 100 million Nairn nomination fee Boko Haram kills 12 raises cool buildings I just hometown attacked Nakhon allocate 33,976 hard slots to states and FCT US ok's drop box service for Nigerian students and just on the red strip below Jonathan's posters flawed APC secretariat IG vasto deal with key less of policemen those Most of the stories on the front page of the nation newspaper Let's move away from the nation newspaper this morning. We take a quick look at The punch newspaper now on the punch I NEC to spend 239 billion narrow on Paul materials Presidential runoff. It's boldly written there. I NEC always prepares for runoff first presidential bailout may not produce winner records quoted electoral commission budgets $5.39 per head Projects 100 million voters in 2023 elections 10 items constitute 78.44 percent of 305 billion Naira budget Insecurity cannot stop polls the chairman is quoted to say now these are the riders underneath the caption PDP extends sale of forms for time was APC chieftains Aisha Buhari invite at equal Bola akma to noble and you also have vice president Yemi or see bad joe Sarah key orders High food prizes will continue Nigeria orders till 2023 the international monetary fund is quoted. I'm sure they might just be an interest reps alleges cover up on refineries and summons Carry others and just before we move away from the punch newspaper State police better way to tackle insecurity the former vice president Alicia gonna boss on draw is quoted on that and I take this one Buhari orders rescue of abducted train passengers says and SA There's several interesting headlines here, but for the want of time we probably just take one and move away Excuse on Joshua Dari a and jolly Paddons is lame see as all tackles the presidency. These are some of the headlines on the punch newspaper this morning Almost all the papers are leading with insecurity as the Abana headlines are to the daily independent It captions it this way in security state police now a better option or boss on Joe Just below the pictorial there Buhari asks security agencies to rescue abducted victims Terrorist attack Yobi town kill 22 burn schools IGP the cries attacks on police facilities in Southeast rejects operation APC 100 million a presidential form bias should be probe or form buyers should be probed that's According to your child you are more Nigerians are getting mad Red cross wow that's shocking red cross cries out lasso fever claims seven percent in Kogi state above the must-head Nigeria IMF disagree again on exchange rate management Right, and there's also a story on Google there Those are the main stories, but just before we leave it We will conduct 2023 elections despite insecurity that's attributed to the iron neck chairman Those are all of the stories on the front page of the daily independent newspaper this Friday morning All right, let's get straight to the crux of it this morning We set off with the we need state police to tackle security challenges the former president has quoted We have Madoka in the studio. I make her a bigger part in How do you? It's good to see Madoka. How do you react to this? Well interesting headlines It's surprising that President and that ex-president Lucia go bus and Joe has suddenly woken up To the idea of state police something that he vigorously kicked against. I mean it's it only shows you that our leaders don't Take I mean the distance they keep a distance, you know from the people there's a there's a kind of Disconnect disconnect dissonance call it whatever between them and the people why they live in that cocoon You know, they put themselves they hide in a bubble and they just ignore the challenges the pressing challenges the same of us and Joe when But would you set up back as a boys in an umbrella? He could have called him and said okay This is a good idea. Well, how can we make these things better? You kicked against it When Tinnubu was governor of Lagos state you withheld local government funds, but around that time Tinnubu set up last month set up Set up other Kai and the rest of them all these things were to help the regular police to keep the society same and Orderly, but what did you do? You did all you could to frustrate them now You're talking about state police Well, the horse has left the stable a long time ago because state governments some state governments actually have set up Things that look like state police. Yes. I like like say police like in Lagos. You have the neighborhood LNSE you have in Anambra say you have the Anambra vigilante services You have in Ogun state you have the London service of Ogun state in different places You have some of these things but the point is you've seen the attorney general Malami fighting Against states trying to set up such Outfits look at what he did with a moteco. Look at so you see we must entrench True federalism the practice of true federalism in this country. We have to stop joking about it because You just continue to pretend that with the federal police with civil defense that everything will go well But there's a limit to what these people can do then the same of us. I'm just talking about dismissing community police How do you how do you? Operate state police with that community policing in the United States You have the county police you have police at different levels in different countries. So People don't just move into these criminals are not a ghost. These terrorists are not ghosts Bandits are not ghosts when they move around people see them But the people have to they have to have confidence in the security agencies that if they volunteer information That it will not be passed on to criminals who will turn around to come and kill them and Destroy their properties. That is the major problem. These security services need to be punished You see that all these crime banditry and the rest of the tourism business is because there are people who have seen this thing as a business And that it must continue you see the president saying that security that the service chief should sit up What kind of counsel is that is it telling them to do their jobs? Does your management beg you to do your job? Do I mean do my do my do my wife and children beg me to be a responsible father? You see it is unfortunate. We have leaders who don't want to be responsible, right? Let's get some GD Johnson's comment concerning that because almost all the needs of papers this morning Took that particular caption as the elite story. What's your position? What's your take on this? We need state police to tackle security challenges that the former president Is saying in the wake of at the regional security network I'm a tech on the old a book a DK in the south is that so what's all it's a high exactly do you reason all of this GD? It's only food. I was not in his mind overtime Everyone of us and those listening to all I'm not sure the view the air 20 years ago is the same beauty I have in 20 years after with respect to some certain thing with respect to some latest information And nation grows over time developmentally Judy are you there? We seem to be having them or do connectivity issue with you They will try and we connect with him There are all the stories that we should look at I make a let's talk about the vice the president's wife Isha Buhari who is in the news and that she has invited them presidential aspirants to if tar You know and there is more like a close there or proviso if you if you may He and she is asking them not to come with them mobile devices. What is that? What does all of that tell you? Of course it tells you that she wants to Discuss certain things that She wants to keep private, but I wonder first of all there is no office of the first lady Even present moment Barry made that a campaign a campaign promise that There wouldn't be that he wouldn't have he wouldn't operate Allow the office of the first lady to operate, but now we see It's appointed for the first lady who see all kinds of things around the first lady We see activities that are on position now around the office of the first lady be that as it may now Stretching it to the point of inviting presidential aspirants to a meeting I I think I think the thing is that some of these are leaders They take the people for granted they take their powers they take whatever powers they assume they have you know Whatever influence they assume they have they take them they take them too far and they think Nigerians are foolish or stupid On what basis is she inviting presidential aspirants? Is it to tell them not to run or to tell them that? Okay, we have this the husband was saying on Wednesday that that there will be consensus You know trying to tell them that there will be consensus alright, and how does one belongs to the APC? Why are you inviting presidential aspirants from PDP ADC SDP and why what's your business with them? It the people the presidential aspirants right now should be talking to members of their parties to delegates of their parties Who will vote in primaries in the next one month not attending some funny kind of meeting? I think they should all boycott it because it is ridiculous to say where is she gonna get the phones to host those people? I'm saying they should not come with their phone shows that there is a lot to eat than meets the eye They should just ignore that if she has anything to do maybe something in the public Maybe that has to do with women the girl child and all that you organize a conference an open conference And then invite them let Nigerians attend let journalists be there Let people see what you have to tell them and let people also hear them, but inviting them into the closet. I think They should just reject it. It's it's it's it's it's unacceptable Alright, let's hope we have GD Johnson back via phone GD Johnson are you with us? Unfortunately, I want to go to connect with GD Johnson, but we're back to UNR and studio And on the punch newspaper you have IMF. I mean the IMF has been speaking recently about Nigeria They keep speaking about Nigeria And I'm wondering why you know Nigeria is a big stakeholder in Africa so and in sub-Saharan Africa and among developing nations So attention must be focused on Nigeria now So yesterday one of the concerns for the IMF was that the issue of subsidy Was on the high. I mean it would actually not lead the economy It was bad for the Nigerian economy at the end of the day Now today we're also having this report saying that high food prices will continue Nigeria Others in 2023. This is according to your report from the IMF and how do you react and why do you think okay? You have actually mentioned that but it's okay to go ahead constantly the IMF seemed to be very interested in Nigeria Is there something we don't know apart from being Development partners partners in progress with Nigeria. I think the IMF and World Bank also overreach themselves Because we don't You see we that tag developing nation Makes us feel we can just take instructions from anywhere Yes, the fact that we go to them to Ask for loans and all of that. These are things we're going to pay back. We're not asking for The problem there they meet there is that we continue to ask for aid For grants even for things that Are within the ability and purview of the government. So IMF feels you can dictate does IMF dictate to the US Does IMF dictate to other countries to the to to so-called developed nations? No What the point is telling us that food prices will remain high. It's just like preaching to the choir We know we know what the problems are We know what the problems are for years. It's been about bad roads In security a lot of now a lot of farmers have fled have left their farms look at a place like Shiroro in Niger state that is the that's where Bandit terrorism in Niger state started That's where these people started and then from there they moved to Cardinal and other places Now they have driven a lot of farmers Out of their farms on Guada and other areas like you know around that shiro road that where you have the shiro power station They've driven these farmers away Why won't food prices be high the roads? How are the do we have good road? Interconnectivity no so the point is that We should talk to ourselves We should make our nation more secure. We should make our nation better So that we don't have foreigners who come and sit in Poche hotels and be writing reports. Do they go to the farms? Ask them How do they know that food prices will remain high? Do they go to the markets? Do they go to the farms? They just sit they just appoint some people as advisors or resource persons And those ones we go around whatever they bring. How do you filter what these people say you have the national bureau of 36 But people even government officials have had reason to disagree with some of their Some of their some of their 36 and some of their recommendations What we need is this we need to get serious as a nation We need but our food prices not high. They are high of course They have not just started going up food prices for more than the past let's say six to eight years have been high There have been times when nupeng national union of petrol national and natural gas workers went on strike because why They said the roads were bad and their members were dying in accidents and were being killed by You've had such situations where truck drivers went on strike because they said the roads were bad So that's a major Problem then you now have banditry. You have banditry. You have kathurously You have criminals going into the farms to kill You also have the menace of headsmen going into the farms to kill farmers and the farmers they run away Now that's why you see So many people So many young people from other parts of the country going into a riding occurred These are people that should be in farms But because they cannot they don't have a safe environment to farm So they've run away from those places and come to Lagos where of course they can ride occurred safely Move around and get get some money and Move you know move along with life take care of their families send some money back To their families you see what is going on in Cardinal state? Another place is kidnapping poor people and saying each person should bring 20 million When they don't bring the money you kill them This is brigand age And it is unfortunate that nobody has been punished for this It's unfortunate the national security advisor remains there just Talking blowing hot air Telling us we will do this. We will do this. We will do this. We will do this And all the poachers are directed at the president because it's the commander-in-chief But they will not tell you okay. All right the president has said so But but but but what if you know you don't have the right environment to work Then resign so that people are courageous to do the work we'll get in there Okay, let's i'm bringing i'm gd johnson. We understand that we have him back on the line Gd johnson, thanks for staying with us Okay, so let's get some of your comment from all that we have said so far Well only only a person will call for State police now I think it's appropriate Nigeria is ready for it now. It's a really clear that I would That we are ready for it Telling us that they are There will be i can food prices. It's a global problem. It's not what we mean. I have nothing been spoken about I can gas gas prices can't be prices in wetland. We all would expect to the threat of erosion between prices And it's only after they talk about but we believe that we have to make our said With respect to the challenges we have with banditry and outstanding with the farmers and respect to The farmers head ask us We had for many many years And then the implications of Lockdown You don't need rocket science. Many want to tell you that then they have You use with respect to food to food supply Couple to the fact that we don't have good food facilities our problem in Nigeria is no Production our problem has to do with distribution and storage of these of these them food Products that we that we have in our in our country so That that's just my view and that if we improve our transportation Improve our logistics improve our story And we do this challenging security news that are sticking in you from a TV come down And so what I am going to say Will not obtain in Nigeria To the studio here where we have a maker madu nagu who's here with us this morning And on the punch we still get back to the punch. He talks about I like to spend 239 billion naira on pole materials and presidential runoff You also have ainec saying that You know despite the insecurity situation. They are still going to go ahead We also there was a certain time where ainec came out to say hey We're not even sure about the 2023 elections if the insecurity situation This is but you know, it's a different conversation right here What are your thoughts on this? Yeah, it's interesting in a season when Nobody is paying attention to asu sanu and asu that Preparations for elections are just going on smoothly as if We are living in el dorado Yes, ainec is a statutory agency of government saddled with The conduct of electioneering and elections. All right, but Politicians in Nigeria usually pander to their own interests whatever will favor their interests is Where they put their minds they have had their minds to Now elections are coming. You see all the preparations and everything going on You will see towards the elections. Suddenly It will be a safe hatchman never existed A safe band is never is everywhere will just go calm. You're not wonder where did all these people Suddenly disappear too, you know So it's a safe they have a kind of a magic wand, you know, which they use on you saw What jonathan did now when he was president he postponed the ainec postponed the election by six weeks And suddenly bokuaran was defeated and all of that What we need now Is that when we are spending money on elections? We should also take into consideration social services education security other areas there are More pressing problems and elections and again, I think the cost of our elections have gone too high Something needs to be done about the cost of electioneering and the conduct of elections in Nigeria because very 239 billion. I I wonder I wonder how the nation copes with all these huge budgets every election cycle and don't forget in between You have elections in states and maybe some constituencies So the the point is that yes ainec will do its duty because it's it has a constitutional role to play But I think something needs to be done about the cost of holding elections in Nigeria All right, Judy. Let's get your comment concerning that a maker has his mind About the cost being too high and that time the government should be focusing on other social issues. How do you I like to say the projection For the presidential election The last election was not up to half a million votes because you must have making a projection Is based on statistics? I believe you do that In 2019 what was it that cost for the presidential election in 2015 I'm not sure we have gotten to the threshold of 40 million in the last um How can you jump that beacon from less than 30 million In four years to four to one hundred million And if you look at the budget the budget was based on their projection So it's not wasted you got an opportunity for them I have said it You let them share this money to us And we share the money And then let them continue to move But look at the amount of money we have spent on election And the deliverables of the money are getting From from governor You see that we have wasted public resources You know the better for us to spend this money Lord we have to waste And the waste is But I can make myself to be clear about them And we can work out by one day for the election One of the difference between me and it is And what business does The wife of the president Has to invite Presidential students to attend Anyone of them to attend is not serious One because she does not have the power She does not have the moral right She doesn't live in Nigeria As far as we are concerned She is not a visitor to Nigeria And all of you are studying to come to Nigeria To invite them That we should come and do work And then they should come with their phone and write to them Absolutely not sir All right Gide Johnson let's let's stay with you But this is on the daily independent He talks about the APC and the 100 million presidential form buyers Saying they should be probed I mean this has gotten a lot of Nigerians talking And some persons have said It's a party of the parties actually have the right To decide and you know do whatever it is that it shows to do But it's really interesting like we have stated Sometime in 2014 Prior to 2015 The president was very concerned about You know this presidential ticket that was pegged at 27.5 million And now you have the APC with 100 Are you saying that anyone who buys this form should be probed? What do you think? It is just the shared property of the APC And the APC we know from the government Well 100 million to 100 million Protection of INEC But as you can see that it has Why should someone in the 100 million To buy nomination for the party? There are ways in which the party is to generate revenue Because I'm just going to talk to you That way do we expect the party to make money to run their sales revenue I want to ask you I do this mess Who can afford 100 million? Now one of the things they've also done Is to shut out people that do not have access to public funds To contain selection Let me break it down for you Now it's because you are looking at the presidential election Let's start from the House of Assembly 2 million Now someone wants to aspire for the House of Assembly To represent his country, to take your state He's going to pay 2 million Someone is going to ask a rep He's going to pay 10 million Now in Lagos state you have 24 hours of rep member 24 if you only have 24 Which you never will be Even if you do not have Let's say 3 times 24 As you have to deliver That's 72 72 times 10 million Now the money goes to the National Secretariat And not the State Secretariat There's something fundamental with the structure It's not even about the money There's something fundamental with the structure of a party to sell And that is what is fundamentally wrong with the Governance in Nigeria That's not my thing Much later since we will be having you on that segment But let's look at some other issue that is giving me concern right now It's about mental health of Nigerians More Nigerians gets in mad Red Cross is crying out What does this really tell you? They get in mad or they can't see That's what we need to You know there are dimensions of mental Illness Not necessarily About seeing people walking naked on the streets Or half clad on the streets A lot of people actually suffer from depression Because the times are hard The economy is hard So couples take out the tension on each other You know they take it out on their children They just imagine a young couple wanting to get married And the bill said before them I mean they have to take loans here And they may take them 3 to 5 years to pay off those loans So you see those things could put pressure on them And they get depressed That's on another level now Should they take all those loans just to get married? You see these are two people love each other What do you want them to do? Go above their own name You see that's the problem with the funny things we value in our society That if my children don't organize a lavish wedding Then what will my friends say? What will my colleagues say? What will my associates say? But we need to begin to cut down on a lot of things that Put pressure on people Particularly the young ones The youth constitute 60% of the population of Nigeria And a lot of them are unemployed No way for them Nothing for them to do And nobody cares about them So what do you find? They have to find a way to get their hours To make their hours productive And they get into all kinds of things Then you have Nabrak is now trying to cut down On the preparation of alcoholic drinks Because these things harm the internal organs Even the brain But you find that also NDLA is doing a lot In terms of bringing down drug abuse You just saw which day was it that NDLA Broke into a party somewhere in Abuja A cannabis party And some people were trying to bring out To launch a psychoactive drink at that party You even have cookies Cookies less with drugs So it's unfortunate that some people have now taken Up the business of trying to run their fellow Nigerians Into mental illness Not necessarily madness But as I said, there are stages of mental illness Yes, the economic situation in the country Yes, people are depressed Loneliness and all of that That's one side of it Then when couples lose their jobs Nine million people lost their jobs Within between 2015 I mean the back to back recession we had in the country So of course, you know that will put pressure on people Then look at domestic violence It's another problem That's an offshoot of what they're talking about I mean a man beating his wife For what? Where you trace it, a lot of it boils down to finance It's not as if it's justifiable But these things are happening Now what is the government doing? Red Cross is an NGO, it's a non-governmental organization It has pointed the way above You'll see now government will come out to deny and say No, no, no, no, no, no It's not that bad You see, we are doing this What are you really doing? There must be programs to rehabilitate people There must be policies There must be policies The major problem we have in Nigeria Is not the absence of activity You see government officials, they're always active They're always busy around so many things But where is the policy? What is the policy driving all these activities? No policy So at the end of the day, when one government leaves It's as if that government never did anything at all And all that government comes up So every time they keep doing roads, roads, roads What is the policy driving all those things? There must be a broad-based policy Yes, NDLE is working, NABRAC is working But those are just shots in the dark There must be an all-encompassing policy Bringing these agencies together To say, wait a minute, we have a serious problem Look at what Red Cross has put down What are the things causing all these problems? How can we, at the federal, state, local government level And even at the family level How can we ensure that this thing does not go out of control? All right Okay, GD Johnson, do you want to comment Before we round off this session? Why not? Hello GD? Yeah, just to Yes Me too I am new to let me Integrity I am new to you All right, thank you so much GD Johnson He's agreed to all that you have said Concerning the issue of Nigerians Running mad GD, just before we round off this particular discourse There's a story on the Daily or the leadership of Friday It's still on the ASU strike I just want to get your comment I know we almost sound like broken records Over this particular issue But strike ACF offers to mediate In federal government and ASU dispute Do you think right now mediation is what That we should be looking at Or just what are the main profitable solutions To all of this So we can have a lasting solution On this ASU matter GD You have to imagine The federal government has noted The same attention The case we're making And the Negroes have been in this line Every now and then And the Negroes have been in this particular sector I'm not sure we have this That we have it now It's just for us Us decodal The federal government National Assembly The ministries And agencies in North America To pay attention to this point To We want to require For the people sector Because the group of our leaders Is tied to the investment That will put an educational sector Because the educational sector Is your innovation Nativity That drives your economy Comes from this Thank you All right, thank you so much GD Johnson Chief lecturer Nigeria Institute of Journalism And of course, Emeka Madunagu He is also a publisher He's a journalist as well And he's an analyst He's still here with us That's as much as we can take On this particular discourse But we'll take a quick break And when we come back We'll be looking at The APC Neck meeting All of the fallouts on that The 100 millionaire nomination From and all the matters Rising In the moment Do join us again