 Good evening, everyone. Hope you can all hear me and thank you so much for joining us tonight. I'm Jen Santos, the Deputy Director of Parks for the City of Santa Rosa. We are going to go ahead and get started while we get our interpreters set up in just a minute. We do have one on the line. So, as you may have surmised, we do have interpreted services this night for our discussion about Fremont Park in Santa Rosa. We're excited to have you with us to reimagine the park. Our interpretive services. With the interpretive services, we'll meet about a half an hour break to an hour break every night. We'll be taking breaks at every half an hour to an hour in the meeting to allow our interpreters a small five minute break. So we'll keep you posted as those roll forward, but we wanted to make you aware of that. And I'm going to turn it over to our host to explain how to how Spanish translation services are being provided. A live interpretation can be heard on the Spanish channel. You can join the Spanish channel by clicking on the interpretation icon in zoom toolbar. It looks like a globe. Next slide, please. Can we go to the next slide? Bueno, se puede escuchar interpretación en vivo en el canal de español puede unirse al canal de español haciendo click en el icon de interpretación en la barra de herramientas de zoom que ahora parece un globo terráqueo. At the time of public comment the interpreter on the panel will be prepared to assist anyone needing interpretation. It's recommended that you shut off the main audio so you can clearly hear the Spanish interpretation. Additional instruction will be given at that time. Jen, back to you for additional housekeeping for today's meeting. Bueno, en el momento de comentario público, el intérprete del panel estará preparado para ayudar a cualquier persona que necesita interpretación. Se recomienda que apague el audio principal para que puede escuchar claramente la interpretación en español. En ese momento se le dará instrucción adicional. Jen, de nuevo contigo para asuntos de mantenimiento. Thank you. Okay, so I have a little bit of housekeeping. As members of the public join the meeting, you will be participating as an attendee. Your microphone and camera will be muted. Only today's panelists will be viewed during the meeting. If you are calling in from a telephone for privacy, the host will be renaming your viewable phone number to citizen, and only last four digits of your phone number will show. Once our informational presentation concludes, we'll move to item three on the agenda, questions, questions and answers and community input. At that time, we will ask that you raise your hand and zoom if you have a question answer or question or comment, and our zoom host will move one by one down the list of attendees attendees with their hands raised. If you have asked your question or shared your input, the zoom host will lower your hand. If you heard your question asked and then answered, we ask that you lower your hand so we can move through as many questions as possible. Additionally, the city of Santa Rosa is committed to providing a safe and inclusive environment free from disruptions and will not tolerate hateful speech or actions. Everyone is expected to participate respectfully or if necessary the meeting will end immediately. Next slide please. So as I mentioned in the beginning I'm Jen Santos deputy director for parks, but I also have a special special guest with us tonight for you won't be seeing that you are well represented tonight by your board of community services members attending, including the chair and vice chair of the board of community services, and then tonight's presentation will be provided by our Meyer landscape architects, and I will turn it over to them for introductions. Hello, my name is Nicole Kelly, and I am joined tonight by my colleague and friend and the owner of the firm David Meyer. I will be doing the most of the presentation tonight and I'll be taking you through the site analysis and and the polling and all of the presentation. Next slide please. We were so excited. So thrilled to learn that we had been selected as a landscape architects. And we, and part of the reason that we just feel like this park has so much potential, but we desperately need your help. So we are so grateful for you taking the time to attend this meeting. We're excited that all of you are joining us tonight. As we start dreaming about how Fremont Park might better serve your needs in the future. So here we have the agenda. We're going to start by talking about the site location and a short history of Fremont Park. I'm going to talk about the project goals and objectives for this project. We're going to go review the schedule, and then we're going to do a short poll with some really easy questions just to get you used to the polling function on this zoom webinar format. Next, we're going to go dive into the park and talk about site analysis, we're going to talk about what its context and what's nearby. We're going to talk about the beautiful existing trees and some of the original features found in the park, and we'll talk about the cancer memorial features as well. After that we'll have, we'll review some reference images, and talk about and then start dreaming about what the park might become in the future and what your ideas might be so we'll look at some reference images of other parks, and you'll be able to vote on your favorite elements. And then we'll have a question and answer section, which Jen just described. And then finally, we'll give you more information about the survey that's available on the city website. Talk about next steps, and give you contact information if you have, if you would like to request any additional information. I know many of you already know about where this park is and what's nearby but this aerial photograph really shows you how close it is to downtown. It's just a seven minute walk between courthouse square and Fremont Park which is highlighted in the aqua color surrounded by yellow. It's between 4th Street and 5th Street and then hope on on the Eastern boundary where it's really close to the Cherry Street Historic District, which you'll see in blue. It's right across the street from Santa Rosa Middle School. And it is this proximity to all these businesses and the residential districts as well. And of course the Santa Rosa Middle School that really mean it has the potential to be activated by all these people who are within walking distance and that's really an exciting thing for us. Next slide. A little bit of history. In 1865, the local school district at the time, bought the land from an early settler with the last name of Pullman. The site was occupied by Fremont Grammar School until 1924. The park and this grammar school were named after historical figure John C. Fremont, who was an explorer and also one of the first California Senators, US Senator representing California. In 1926, the site was sold to the city of Santa Rosa and the rock, the stone that's at the corner of Hope and 4th, that you can see in this photo commemorate that, that the land, the donation of, sorry, the selling of the land to the city and honors the Frontiers people in the first settlers in the area. The park was designed by landscape architect Howard Filty. We have the original blueprints and they're really beautiful. The park you can see a photo in the lower left. It was designed in what was called the bow art style, which was very romantic, and it was. It was very fashionable in that time and was very was seen throughout Europe and the US and in landscape design and in park design. In 2000 cancer survivor Plaza was installed and we'll be talking that a little bit later. The top photo shows on the top left shows a camp. This is the park I think this was taken in the 1950s or 60s, and just showing a huge community of people who were using the park and as a place for their camp. Okay, so this park has been a rich part of Santa Rosa's history, but it's no longer really serving the community. So, together with the city, the project goals and objectives and why we're here today is, we'd like to reimagine Fremont Park through community participation. We hope to work to create a safe, inclusive and welcoming green space. We hope to enhance the park's beauty and celebrate its historic past. And we hope to improve park amenities infrastructure and most of all user experience. Next slide. So the project schedule. We are in the first phase, which is master plan and community engagement phase. We just got started in November. And so we're off to a fast start. We're in community meeting number one, which will be site analysis and polling polling, you'll see you'll take you'll be able to do twice in this meeting. And you'll be asked multiple choice questions, but we want to let you know and I'll remind you again in the end that if you have more comments, it's always, you're always open and we welcome comments on the city website should be shared with you at the end of this meeting. The city sent out over 900 invitations to this meeting so. And we're, I know that the principal Diaz we've been working with the middle school principal Diaz also these are helping us with outreach so we're super excited to talk to as many people as we can. So, part of this community meeting we're going to just record everything you tell us. And then at the next community meeting which will take place in spring of 2022. We'll present you three draft plans for the park, which will incorporate your favorite ideas from this first meeting. So, again, you'll get to see three ideas, and you'll get to vote on what your favorite one is. And finally at community meeting number three, well after the second meeting will record everything you tell us all your favorite parts, and then we'll distill that into one plan, and we'll present that in late spring of 2022. And let you again tell us what you love and what you hate, and, and we'll record all of the comments and get to work with the engineers in drawing plans to get this project built. So, according to our schedule, we're aiming for starting construction in summer of 2023. Next slide please. Okay, so we're just about to start our first set of polling questions. And these will be really easy. We'll ask you some really simple questions about your age etc. But one of the questions that we want to make sure that you, you have a clear idea of is, we're going to ask where in the city do you live. And that's really broken up by quadrant. So the Northwest quadrant is represented by number one on the map. It's north of highway 12 and west of 101. The Southwest quadrant is south of 12 and west of how I want 101. Northeast is number three, north of highway 12 and east of 101. And number four, finally, the south of highway 12 and east of highway 101. So, find out where you're where you live within that area so you'll be ready to answer the question that's just going to come to you in just a sec. Okay, I'll turn it over to Lisa. Nicole, all the poll questions are multiple choice. You must answer all the questions in order to submit your responses. The submit button is at the very end of the poll. You may need to scroll to the bottom of your screen to find it. If you are completing the poll on your smartphone, you must first answer the first question before you can answer the second question, etc. If you are participating in the meeting via a landline, you will not be able to participate in the poll at this time. However, the poll is posted on the project webpage through May 6. If you completed the poll, and it has been closed, the results will appear immediately. And Nicole will walk you through the results. We're ready to begin. And I think we have a correction to the data I don't think it's May 6. But I think Jen or Nicole you guys can give us the correct date on that sorry about that. Thank you. I believe we're at January 6 for that. Essentially, we're going to take it to the first possibly second week in January we'll see how many people are participating in that survey online. And you can also participate right now. So please feel free to click in there. You see the pop up on your screen. Remember to scroll down so you can select all the questions. And so it'll be a little bit silent for a minute while you're filling these questions out. But we can see the results live as soon as you're all done. In the first poll, you're going to choose your age. Less than 15 years, between 16 and 20 years, between 21 and 30, 31 and 50, 55, 75, and has an age of more than 75 years. The second poll is about where you live in the city. What part of the city does it live in? Maria, we don't need you to translate those questions. Thank you for that. We'll keep you listed as a panelist. And we currently have Pablo in the Spanish translation right now and we will do a break at six o'clock to swap the rules, but no need for you to translate those survey questions. Thank you, though. Thank you. All right, thanks for your patience, everyone. It does look like everyone has answered the poll questions. So we're going to go ahead and end the survey now and show those results. Okay, it looks like 24% of you are between the ages of 31 and 50. Just over half of you are between the ages of 51 and 75 and a quarter of you are over the ages. Okay, excuse me, Nicole, you ended up being muted there. Yes, I'm moving on to the next. Oops, I think I accidentally closed it. Is it possible to reopen it? No, it's not possible for me to populate it on your screen. I can go through really quickly. You can. Okay, great. Yeah, that's okay. Thank you for joining us off, Nicole. And so on question number two, where do you live in this city? It looks like 76% are in the Northeast Quadrant, which is the quadrant where the park is located. So that's great. We have a lot of folks who live around the area. And then we also have some from Northwest and Southeast Quadrants. And we asked you, how did you hear about the meeting? It looks like the city's e-newsletter was a popular way to learn about it, as well as it looks like word of mouth. That always works well for us. And we have some notifications at the park, social media banners, city website, et cetera, flyers that were helpful as well. And how often do you visit the city park number four? Every day, 33% of you visit every day, at least once a week. And once a month, the split between 29% and about 10% of you visit once a year. And then how long does it take for you to get to Fremont Park? Most of you put between zero and 10 minutes at 67%. And 10 to 20 minutes to get to the park was about 33% of respondents. So this was just a quick and easy poll. It gives us a lot of really valuable data when we move forward. But it's also a good starter. We'll have another poll for you, as Nicole mentioned, that gives we're going to ask for more responses about what type of amenities you want to see or what sort of changes you want to see. In the park. So we have a little bit more presentation and then we'll go through another poll a little bit later on. So I'm going to turn it back to Nicole. I'm sorry, Jen. Actually guys, at this time, I think it's a good time to transition Maria into the interpreter role. And again, as a friendly reminder, please just make sure that when you are speaking, that you are speaking at a slower pace so they can interpret everything that you're saying. So at this time we'll resume at 6.05. All right, great. Thanks. We'll take a little bit of break and switch out our interpreters and we'll be right back. All right, Nicole. Looks like we're. The interpreter's slot here and Maria is in on the Spanish channel so you will go ahead and let you take it back over and I will put it back on. Like 10 and you can just tell me when to advance the flight. Thank you. Okay. Next slide. We're going to dive a little bit deeper deeper into the park. So this map shows us the elements within the park and just really close by number one and Santa Rosa middle school just to cross fifth street. Number two is Santa Rosa church lines Hope Street to the east. Number three is future residents. If you've driven down four street recently you've probably seen the construction of the multifamily housing that's going in, which we're really excited about again hoping that that will draw families into the park. Number four is surface parking on both fourth street and and Hope Street, and then we have parallel parking on on Fifth Street. We have existing crosswalks already at the two main corners. We'll talk about some of the planting elements that the key planting elements within the park number six at the corner is some saucer flowering saucer magnolias, which will show photos of and shorten seven. Right under that we're under those magnolias by the way is where the memorials the rock is this commemorating the purchase of the land. Number seven is the original central paving layout. Originally the park was designed to have brick paving, but that eventually became a maintenance issue and it's been updated to asphalt throughout the park but that central yellow portion that you see on the map is is really the main, the main focus of the park and where most of the elements are. The cancer, such as the cancer survivor arts installation that's seen in number eight and the red band in the center. That's located within these two, the two hedges on either side. Number nine is indicated by those white dashes and those are positive mental attitude packs plaques which will share photo with later. That is also part of the cancer survivor art installation. Number 10 is the formal you hedge planting you is a type of very dense evergreen hedge. So these particular ones were planted back in 1926, and they're huge and massive today and a little bit problematic and we'll talk about those in a minute. Number 11 are the original arbor, the trellises were part of the original design. And those are on either side of the water feature, the fountain which is number 12. Number 13 is a majestic walnut tree that we just love. We actually had an arborist come out and take a look at all the trees a couple weeks ago and they said, because there were no leaves on the tree they couldn't tell there was a walnut or a butternut tree, which you might be familiar with but is more commonly found on the east coast, but if it is a butternut tree will be the largest in California so we are just waiting till spring so we can correctly identify it. And 14 finally is along that Western boundary you have just some beautiful specimen redwood trees. And I can't do a show of hands right now but really I'm guessing that many of you know this park as the Cancer Survivor Park and not Fremont Park. The most notable thing elemental on Fifth Street is the sign that you'll see in the top top left. In the central part that we just showed it when I showed you the map is the Cancer Survivor art installation that you can see in the top right on either side of that installation are the use the hedges that's really form a wall defining that central space. You can define that central space but they also divide the park and that's one of the issues that we see with them in the lower left you'll see how that wall is on the left hand side of the photo. And then you have the open park to to the right but the park is divided into three spaces really to the left and right of the hedge and then the central and then the central part with the art installation. So one of the impressions that we love is the trees. This lower left, excuse me lower right photo is just all the trees layered on top of each other there's redwoods and oaks, and my mullies and just really numerous trees that really add to the seasonal character of the park, they provide shade, and they are just beautiful. So, that's one of our really favorite parts about this site. Here's again some of the beautiful existing trees, likely installed back in the 20s we have some. These photos are taken once winter had already started so they're a little, they're dropping their leaves and fall but there's some magnolias on the left hand side and then a beautiful oak tree along that western boundary between the redwoods. Next slide. Again the redwoods. They really are tall and beautiful and just great to be underneath the, the, you just feel so protected underneath there and just in all the trunks and the size of the tree so we're excited to, to have those existing in the park. Next slide. Some of the more problematic species in the park. I've already talked about the use the hedges in the center and that's on the right side. It's really the walls that they create are creating problems with site visibility and safety. Someone could be just on the other side of these use and you could be on the other side and not see them and that's really something that we're concerned about and you think is an issue. The second set of trees is the magnolias that are on the corner of hope and forth, and that's on the left hand side. Right now in winter, there's no leaves on this tree and they you can see right through them but come spring and summer, when they leave out you really it's hard to see into the park from that corner. And again that were concerned about site visibility and screening and safety. Some of the original elements closer look at the trellis and arbors that were installed on either side of the water feature. They've been painted and the wood has been replaced over the years, but they, they to create a bit of an issue with screening and visibility. Although they are right now they have a steer growing on the top and they're, they're pretty lovely but they do create a problem with sightlining visibility. Next slide. And the water feature. The water feature this photo was taken in summer. I think if you go now you might find some more water in the pond but typically it's not functioning and it's, it's really charming and you can see the really cool light fixtures throughout the park on the left hand side. And both of these are charming and but they are really no longer becoming unused and a bit problematic for maintenance. Next slide. This is a close up of the art that was installed as part of the cancer survivor Park Plaza. And it's really it's a metaphor, it's a metaphorical representation of cancer survivor so the cancer survivors are coming through this this tunnel of the arches that you can see. And it's about like the happiness and the feeling that you get once you've gone through this difficult period. And the plaques that I mentioned earlier can be seen in the right hand photo. There's several of these tucked into the you the shrubs. I'm talking about positive positivity and remaining, having a positive attitude, when you're going through a difficult time. So, these are really a beautiful metaphor and a part of the park that's been there again since 2000. But since they are as we described in the, in the center of the park we just will ask you a question later if perhaps there's might be, if you might might be open to relocating them within the park or to another park within the city. That's just something we're considering as we think about all the ways we might want to reinvent and reimagine this three month park. Next slide. So, now we're going to talk. We're now we're going to start dreaming about what Fremont Park could be those were all the elements that it is today. And what we really want to hear from you to now is, what can it be in the future. So, where I'm going to walk you through the questions that you will be asked shortly. And so that you can have, so you can be prepared for answering and kind of get a visual to go along with what we're thinking these elements might be. Number one is an easy one it's what is the primary reason you visit Fremont Park now. Next slide. The second question will be which features would make Fremont a great park and you can pick three every. Are you looking for playgrounds. And are you looking for open lawns for picnicking. Or do you like the idea of community gardens. Are you looking for activating the park with sports fields or sports courts. The only portion of it can become a dog park. Are you looking for seating areas for maybe you can so you can walk and eat your lunch in the park. Would you be interested in public art. Or pollinator gardens. Or walking paths. And lastly, none of the above or other. And really when you say none of the above or other, you won't be able to fill in the blank here but again, you can go to the city website and tell us your ideas there. Next slide. Okay, what kind of play features would you like to see. Climbing features. Natural play. A sandpit. Play mounds. Or more standard play equipment like swings and slides. And lastly, would you like to see game tables like chess or anything like that. Or gee, none of the above you prefer not to have any play features in the park. Next slide. The next question will be about sports features. And you can pick two I believe what sports features would you like to see a skate park ping pong or chess tables. Pick a ball or tennis basketball, even half court or full court, half court, it's a little bit smaller and doesn't take up as much space. And that's the athletic equipment. And F will be no sports features you prefer they're not to be in the sports features. Next slide. Okay, and lastly you'll be asked how you feel about relocating the cancer memorial, either within the park, or to a different part. We're not quite sure we're just listening to everyone and seeing what what what the most people feel. Do you strongly agree that relocating it is a good idea. You agree, you have no preference. You disagree you don't want it moved, are you strongly disagree, or the last is F, you just don't know, you need more information. Okay, next slide. So now we'll go ahead and start the polling. We have a little bit over half of the people that have responded so we will let me know if they've completed. I promise not to close it this time. All right, Nicole, it looks like we have wrapped up on our end so we will go ahead and share those survey results and turn it back over to you to discuss those. Okay. So what is the primary reason you visit Bremont Park now. We have 10% of people saying for a drop off or pick up with your student at Santa Rosa Middle School. We have 10% saying they do come here to walk their dog. We have 38% saying they come to enjoy nature. 10% to enjoy the art. 14% says, I say to come to enjoy the water feature. 30% or just about 30% of us 29 come for your lunch break. 19% of you come to socialize and 33% said none of the above. Question to which features would make Fremont Park. A great place would make Fremont a great park. Okay, so that's our answer to three. Play elements got 43%. Open lawns got 38%. Community gardens only got 10%. Sportsfield or sports courts got 24%. A dog park only got 5%. Seeding areas scored high. Public art is 33. Gardens, pollinator gardens, 52%. Walking paths, 57%. And there were no menopause. Question three, what type of play features would you like to see? Climbing features got 29%. Nature play got 33%. Sand areas got 10%. Play mounds 14%. More standard play equipment got 24%. Game tables scored really high with 52%. That was the highest score. None of the above was 19%. Question four, which sports features would you like to see? Escape park got 10%. Ping pong or chess tables got 38%. Pickleball or tennis got 19%. No one wants basketball. Well, that will be easy. Athletic equipment got 14%. But half of you, almost half of you said you don't want any sports features. So that is really, really good to know. Relocating the Cancer Survivor Memorial within the park or to another park in downtown is a good idea. These 52% strongly agree with relocating it. 29%, so they simply agree. There was no one had no preference. We had 5% saying they disagree with moving it. Another 5% saying strongly disagree. And then 14% saying they need more information. Thank you again for taking the poll. That was, we will together with all the answers we received here in the online survey. We'll take these all into consideration in the coming days ahead as we start thinking about the new design for the park. At this point, we're going to open it up to question and answer period. And again, we are really hoping to hear what you would like to see in the design. Some, what are your ideas for making the park a success? What are your ideas? You know, what are your, we were just waiting to hear what you, if you've been walking by the, and thinking this park would be so great if it had this. We'd love to hear that. And if you have any additional questions for us, feel free to ask those as well. And I think we'll go ahead and get started by raising your hand if you have a comment or question. We can just also go to the next slide, please, or Q and A. Yes, next slide. And if you wish to make a comment via Zoom, please raise your hand. If you're dialing in via telephone, please style star nine to raise your hand. And I'm going to ask the host to go over a little bit more details on how to participate in question and answers. We'll turn it back to the host. Thank you, Jen. A countdown timer will appear for the convenience of the speaker and viewers. The first speaker will be acknowledged and invited to speak. Please make sure to unmute yourself when you are invited to do so. Your microphone will be muted at the end of that countdown or at the conclusion of your comment. If you are participating in the meeting from the Spanish channel in Zoom, we have an interpreter on standby in the English channel to assist during your public comment. If you wish to ask a question or provide input, please be sure to pause throughout your comments to allow for interpretation. Those using interpreter support will be afforded additional time for your comments. For Spanish speakers, at the time you hear your name called, turn off the Spanish channel to make your public comment. The icon may now look like a circle with an E-S in the middle and the word Spanish underneath. Thank you, Shelley. So I'm going to turn it back to our host to call on our first folks. It looks like we have some hands raised. Turn it back to our hosts. Thank you. Our first speaker. The name on it is home. I'm going to invite you to speak and you will have three minutes. Hello. Are you hearing me? Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead. Thank you. I just wanted to make a couple of comments. One comment is that I very much like the park open. Without a lot of features, I feel, and the poll pretty much showed that many people go there to simply enjoy the peace of the park, to eat their lunch, see a little greenery. My other comment concerns the cancer survivors monument. And I know you gave us the choice of either relocating that monument to the park, to that park or to another park in town. I very much feel that that monument should be relocated to the corporate yard. And it should be taken out of the park and not placed in another park. I find it to be a really creepy sculpture. And I don't wish to offend anybody. But I think that that should simply be removed. And that is all I have to say. Thank you very much for your comment. Thank you. Our next speaker will be Cappy. Cappy, you'll be asked to unmute it. You'll be followed by Bonnie. Hi, I'm Cappy. And I live in the historic district that is like two blocks away from the park. This park is an historically designed park by a well, you know, renowned landscape architect. I think the actual footprint of the design of the park is excellent. I think that the city needs to maintain the park. The fountain obviously needs maintaining and probably could run when we're not having a drought. I don't understand the conundrum with the U hedges as I, I've had, I have a U hedge and you can take them down or I had, I no longer have a U hedge and you can take it down. I sold my house. You can take it down and make it almost any size you want there. They will grow back and they just need to be maintained. I don't know if you think we need sight lines through the park. I think that's important so that we don't get homeless there. And I like the fact that people from the downtown and from the surrounding neighborhoods can walk to the park, sit and have lunch and be in a quiet, calm green space in the middle of town. Thank you. I just want to take a quick moment. Do we need to switch interpreters? Is this a good time to do that? Yes. We will go ahead and take a five minute recess. To get those interpreters walked out and resume. At let's say 637. All right, Nicole, it looks like we have walked the rules here and we are going to go ahead and just proceed with public comment. Thank you. And folks will start calling on those names again. Hi, Bonnie, we had you next. I'm going to allow you to talk if you don't have anything to say. Hi. I just really, I just agree with Cappy. And I agree with the gentleman who said that the cancer skull should be. Bonnie, if you could just hold on for a second. There we go. It looks like we needed to get our interpreter muted. You want to go ahead and start again. Oh, okay. Sorry about that. That's okay. I do agree with Cappy that some of the design elements should remain. But, but I love the idea of open calm space. And I agree with the gentleman who thinks that the cancer sculpture should be removed. Thank you. Thank you for your comment. Thank you. Our next speaker is going to be last four digits. 1918. 1918. Last four digits, your phone number. Did you, did you wish to speak? Oh, I'm sorry. That's my wife's phone number. This is our computer. So I didn't recognize it. Yes. This is Bill. And I just like to say that I consider. Fremont Park to really be one of the city's prime historic spots. Because of the beauty of the park, the historic architecture, landscape architecture. The fact that it was designed by Howard Gilkey, who in the 20s was extremely well known. And then the WP helped build the place. And even the cancer survivors aspect of it. So when that went in, that was heavily supported by people who were survivors of cancer. So I think the historic aspect of the park is critical. And should be emphasized. They also think the plantings are critical and should be emphasized and improved. For example, the use could be pruned up and narrow. They were done many years ago that way. And they would let to get too big. Magnolias at the corner. Could easily be pruned up so you can look under them. So I don't see that as a big issue at all. I think a small playground in that area, particularly as the neighborhood has more children into it would be appropriate. I would like to see somebody probably like at the Southwest corner. Carefully fit in very small. Maybe in the order of the playground that's at. At Julliard Park with some climbing elements and such, but very kind of a low key. And. Okay. It's about all I had to say. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you for your comments. Carol, we're going to have you talk next and followed by Judy. Hi, thank you very much. I'm thrilled that you have the original maps. I'm wondering if they could be posted for all of our education and enrichment. And because you have the original maps, I'm wondering if you could call out which of the plantings and elements are original. And if the park is from the 1920s, that makes it about a hundred years old. I don't think those redwood trees are about a hundred years old. And because you do this for a living, I bet you could date those redwoods for when they went in. Word has it that redwood trees by nature don't actually belong in the Santa Rosa plane. So, I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about the fountains. Several years ago, a number of them were taken out of the courthouse square. Also, I would love to know which of the older trees are healthy as opposed to. Disease. So perhaps some of the trees such as the use as other people have mentioned could be pruned. And preserved because of their historic nature. And that was from the WPA era. And that was in the 19th century. The Balsalt and its historic nature. Bill mentioned that it was from the WPA era. I'm wondering if the basalt. That the bricks are made of were quarried locally, which would give it additional. Historic value. And last, but not least, I'm wondering if modern playground design. types that are rather classical in nature. I know older playgrounds have a tendency to be more dangerous, but I'm wondering if the playground element, if that goes in, could blend in with the more historic nature of the park, with Juilliard Park and Fremont Park being the two downtown, perhaps not classified as historic parks, but definitely historic in nature. And I look forward to some answers. Thank you. Thank you for your questions, Carol. So we just had, as I mentioned, we actually just had a arborist review all of the trees on site. The redwoods were shown on the original plan, as was a buckeye that is planted within those redwoods. There are several that, I think if you know trees, there's a cedar that's existing, that's a beautiful, beautiful specimen. And then some of the crepe myrtles as well. There was a lot of planting along that western boundary that were more like shrubs that are no longer there. But the redwoods and again the cedars and the ewes, crepe myrtles, if you know your trees and you can go out there and see them. There are some trees that are unhealthy and some that require a little bit of work or attention to bring them back to life. Some of the redwoods, she knew we were told a couple of the redwoods really need a little need irrigation or water, I'd say with a bit thirsty, but other than that are fairly healthy. The original map, I'm not sure if we can post it, it's a little hard to read. It was drawn by hand and then blueprinted, but it is a lovely document. And to be honest, the footprint of the park that you see today in the asphalt paths largely is exactly what was initially installed back in 1926. As far as the stone and the quarry, I'm not quite sure, I don't know if we have that kind of information, but we can look into that. And then lastly, as far as the playgrounds go, there are, unfortunately, when I think about classical design and the types of playgrounds that I grew up with that would probably be a good fit, they're constructed of wood and would be more natural and paid perhaps more in the line you're thinking more classical, but there's many, many ways of doing it. And so we will definitely, if the historic features are really desired to maintain and whatever we install will be mindful of that in style and in design and in location and placement. So thank you for your comment. And if I could, Nicole, I'd like to add on top of that. I thought that comment about the playground equipment was really insightful because this historic fabric creates kind of a soulful quality for the park that we find interesting. So a good point about not letting playground equipment of a modern look become a too dominant of appearance because it would potentially conflict with the historic nature of the park. So thank you for your comment. And I'll just add on top of that that we can definitely post the original plan online. If people are interested in that, it is very hard to read, but we'll post it. Thank you. We'd like to just remind everybody to slow your comments just a bit so the interpreters can keep up. Thank you. Our next speaker will be Judy. Judy, I'm going to unmute you. Go ahead, Judy. Hi. I have two comments. Number one, if you drive down Fourth Street, going west, you go down a fairly nondescript business district and those magnolias on Fremont Park are in full bloom and have been for the last week, and they are gorgeous and they just are so gorgeous. They take your breath away, so I don't want to see that little grouping disappear. I know that you can prune magnolias so that you can have an open aspect. Number two is I have been involved in creating and exploring public art for a long time. The cancer, and I resent that this cancer survivors park installation is referred to as art. Number one, there are 25 installations exactly like it all over the United States and Canada. The Brock family has some kind of a situation where they will put the installation in place if the citizens or the city come up with the money. Unfortunately, at the time that this was being considered to be put in a public park, the art in public places committee had no artists on it. I think they made a big mistake by accepting this as art. It is not unique. It is not interesting. Something that is a copy of 24 other replicas is not art. Most of the ones in the United States and Canada are situated at hospital gardens and cancer centers. I would suggest that we might be able to repurpose this to one of the local hospitals or a cancer center in the area. Thank you very much. Our next speaker will be Richard followed by Michael. Go ahead, Richard. Hello. My name is Richard Bell. I am part of a group of people that are trying to get Petanque courts put in a park in Santa Rosa. In many ways, this park would be perfect for them. Even if they may run afoul on some other ideas for other people. The main comment I would like to make is that I think this should become more of an urban park in that it should be a park that has lots of different uses in lots of small spaces for as many people as possible. Things like chess and checkers tables, ping pong tables, small areas to play, areas to meet and to eat together, possibly food vendors, playground structures for the kids. Because as I see it, everybody likes the idea of this park being so classic and old. But I've walked through that park hundreds of times and I don't see people using it much, except for the people who are there because they have no place else to live. And if we want to make the park into something that's really got it going to be used, we need to develop it in such a way that it provides something to do for people of all different ages and activities. Thank you, that's all. Thank you, Richard. Thank you very much for your comments. All right, Michael, go ahead. Yeah, I can hear me. Yes, we can. Thank you. Yeah, I'd like to do a tail on what Richard said. I really strongly agree with multi-use to have it very inviting for all types of folks. And I'd like to see it open. I think that will help in terms of security and safety. Right now it's very difficult to imagine middle school kids hanging out there. I walk downtown every morning with my dog from between 9 to 11. And it's not a place where I go sit down and hang out for a variety of reasons. And in that regard, I'd like to see when you choose plants, choose more native plants. We're moving into a different era of climate change and scarcity of water. So I'd like to see more native plants that are drought tolerant. I'd like to see more permeable surfaces, like the asphalt walkways removed. There are plenty of great permeable structures and surfaces now that will allow the water to slow and sink in the ground. So you recharge the underground aquifers and that would really help with the depth of the roots of the redwood trees. And in terms of the water fountain, I have mixed feelings about that. I think, you know, you need to move the water if you're going to have it. So maintenance is an issue I know about three times a week as I walk downtown, I take a bag and pick up stuff, trash as we're walking along. And I can't tell you the number of times that I've picked food and all sorts of items out of the fountain. And it's just really, I can see in my mind, a maintenance issue, although I love flowing water. So it's complicated and I have mixed feelings about that. I think that's all I want to say and I really applaud you for really starting the conversation. We need more parks in the city, more usable parks, so we could beautify Santa Rosa. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Michael. We now have Katelyn. Katelyn, I'm going to go ahead and unmute you. Go ahead. Can you hear us? Katelyn? Would you like to speak? Katelyn, I believe you're muted. Katelyn, you accept the unmute? Okay, I think we lost Katelyn. If she comes back on, I'll let you know. But at this time, we have no other speakers. All right, great. If you do want to speak, just let us know. We can always add you in if you have a comment. But let's go ahead and go to our next slide, please. And so Nicole, did you want to go over these two next meetings for us? Sure. Sure. So thank you again. We heard really, really thoughtful, wonderful comments. I am so, so appreciative to all of you that came. These are just really, really, really, really wonderful comments that we're going to take and recording them all, like I mentioned earlier. And we're going to come up with three conceptual master plans. So we're going to take all of the comments. I believe Jen said we have until January. Is that right? To the beginning of January? So if you have any friends who missed this meeting or you think would benefit from taking the survey, it would sure be a benefit to us. So please pass the email, sorry, the website that we're about to share with you to anyone who might be interested. We're going to take and record all of that, those survey responses and create three conceptual master plans, three landscape design plans. And next meeting in February of 2022, we'll let you vote on your favorite option. At that time, you'll also be able to comment similar to today. And then following in April and in spring, we'll have one plan that will take in all of the comments up to date and kind of coalesce into the preferred master plan. And again, you'll have a third time to two comments. And that again is in April of next year. Next slide. So to close, here is the information and the survey and more information about this park and always be found at the city website, srcity.org slash park projects. And then for questions, you can email Jen, Jen Santos, who's the deputy director of parks. And this is her email and phone number. And with that, I would just like to again lend our sincere appreciation and I'll pass it over to Jen for closing. Thanks so much, Nicole, really appreciate. And I also agree, really great questions, great feedback. We really appreciate your time tonight, especially during the holidays. It's got to be really hard to listen to a long community, you know, meeting about Fremont, but it's so important and we're so happy you're here with us. And like Nicole said, this is definitely not the only time you can provide your input. If any of your friends, neighbors, et cetera, anybody from the Santa Rosa Middle School would like to participate. We have an online survey. It's exactly the same as the one you took tonight, but it does allow for more open ended responses if you'd like to do that. And that'll be open. We'll keep an eye on it until either the first or second week in January, as soon as we've got a lot, quite a bit of responses from that. And again, just wanted to thank you all, really appreciate it. And you have my phone number or you can always call Recreation of Parks. They'll connect you to me if you have any additional follow-up questions or would like any further clarification. And thanks again for attending and we'll see you in February. Thanks and have a good night.