 Telephone conversation between President Johnson and Senator Everett Dirksen on November 29, 1963, at 11.40 a.m. Everett. Two things. These investigations in the House and Senate on this Dallas affair, Hoover's a little concerned about reflecting on him. He's making a very full report on it. The Attorney General is getting an inquiry, state inquiry. He's a very young and able and effective man. And we don't want to, we've got some international complications that could come up to us if we, if we are not very careful. So we've been trying to figure out how we could best handle this thing. And it seems to us we might ask a member of the court, might even ask Allen Dulles, might ask a couple of members of the House, a couple of the Senate and wrap up the three divisions of government. So we'd have a very high caliber top-flight blue ribbon group that the whole world would have absolute confidence in. I've talked to Mansfield and the speaker and that appeals to them. I think that appeals to Hoover. I think it appeals to the Justice Department and the Secretary of State. I want to see what reaction you had. I think this started when he wanted to get this. Incidentally, I talked to him, too. He said it scribbled him. He's got a states rights problem. He goes to sending the investigations down into Texas. They may be going into Jackson, you know, vice versa. Yeah, I, they took this only because Jim initiated it. I talked to McClellan and I talked to her with another. I talked to Dick Russell, too, and he kind of thought it would be bad for just the Senate committee and the House committee and all of them be running over the locks. So if it's all right about anything, it can be bugged up. We have a request from the Attorney General that view of the heavy mail that this can be a get that the ordinary 10,000 that the President's wife gets for the purpose of answering mail. Yeah. We increased to 50 for the first year. Mike says he could sponsor that if he'd go along with it. I will. That'll be fine. Okay. Now, let me say, I want to talk to you and Charlie in the next day or two about kind of where we're going to get some little action between now and time we go home. If we don't, why, I was going to get a bad press. Yeah. We've got to get our appropriations out, but we ought to make some progress. Now, Harry Bird's very interested in seeing what this budget be before he reports this tax bill out. I talked to Eisenhower and Bob Anderson and them in some detail about that. I won't talk to you about it. I've already done everything that I humanly can to keep that within bounds and not be in a position to give you some estimates. But I hope you all will be in position to close those hearings when it's tentatively planned to close them whenever it was. When was it, six? Well, a resume, but just 17. But we pushed it back to the six or seven. Six, I think. Yeah. And maybe you could get your report written and get it on the calendar as a minimum. Yeah. Edward, what do I think about it? We can pass the tax bill in a week, although it's complicated when it just took five days last year with all the difficulties after we get it out. But the civil rights are going to take so damn much longer time. They got to McGregor Burns' and the rest of them riding about to Congress. And whatever else we say, we do have a good many more appropriation bills up there in December than we've had before. And there is some merit to some of the things they're saying. My life, the hell, as I said the other day, but I do think that if we could, we ought to make sure some evidence is of progress. And you'd be thinking about how you can help us get that tax bill out. I don't want to rush them. Don't want to change the procedures that I indicated in the message. I don't want to try to blast anybody out of anything. But if he's going to finish it in six anyway, hey, why, let's just work some people a few nights up there writing this report and get it out there on the calendar. And it'd be a wonderful thing. The police guy said, every business man I've talked to since I've been in here, from the top zone down. Bob Anderson says, every one of them are waiting to see whether they're really going to pass one. If they are, why? It's going to mean a lot to them. And that market went up the other day because they thought that we were going to be stable with business because they think we're going to be capable. But you've got to help me, my friend. Well, I'll be back there Monday. Okay. I'll talk to you later. And you give some talk to it now. Let's try to get that tax bill out. House passed it, and we've been on it one year, 11 months. And if Congress is to function at all and can't pass the tax bill between January and January, well, we're in a hell of a shit. Yeah. And you know that they've had enough hearings on that thing. If they finish a mistake, they ought to write a report in a week and you ought to pass it in a week. Yeah. But then they don't always affect you January the 1st. And every business man in this country would have some confidence. And you'd probably pick up a bunch of Senate seats because you're running the Senate like I ran it there. You're being pretty patriotic. And you cooperate. Yeah. The bar cup is going to take a little time, I think. The what? The bar cup. Well, it can do that in a week. They mark up the other one in five days. It'll give them a lot more complicated treasury, tells me. And they can do that in five days. Give them seven on this one. So that'd be a 13th. And you could have the damn thing passed by. We don't need to go home to Christmas Eve, 22nd. Yeah. And you'd have 10 days to pass it. Now, Albert Gore's got a deal. He wants to do this and that. But we could table those amendments ahead. And we've got an obligation to Congress. And we've just got to show that they can do something because we can't pass several rights. We know that. Well, I think that's who Harry and John Williams are going to get back on that. All right. All right. Thanks. Yeah.