 Check it to the tape, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique house issue, boy, E-C-E-O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing, outstanding official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None, none of you know my dad walk-on. You know what? That's the only time I get you to smile. And first of all, having this damn show to be honest with you. Shut up. You don't smile for the show. You two damn serials for me. So I'm for the show to die. Because I'm all business. Aw, hell, yeah. No! Hey, man, we got a guy here today, man. This guy don't really need no introduction, man. This guy's dope. This guy's one of those guys, man. It's a pay drug for me and this city, man. When I think about the music and what he brings to the table, man. Just a pure gentleman, too. And a father, man. Somebody who people can look up to in this city, man. A lot of people say they don't have no OGs and all this. You know, y'all need to turn into the OGs now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They creating their own wave, you know. Lou Diamond is in the building. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Mr. Lucci. You know, this guy, what's the name of we doing? Hey, I'm Lou Diamond right now. You know, I'm always Lucci, but you know, I'm Lou Diamond, you know? Yeah. I'm Lou Diamond, you know? Shit, be honest, bro. When I move around, more people call me that. Really? And they call me Lucci. Really? Yeah. The younger kids are the older guys? Or who? Younger kids. People that, since I came home from jail, I don't hear Lucci like talking about it. I just hear Lou Diamond, you know what I mean? So that right there tells me something in the whole too, you know what I mean? Because shit, you know, my old fans, they only know Lucci, the old old fans. But now when I step out and they walk out the car or I'm walking to the gas station or wherever I'm at, Lou Diamond, that's that boy Lou Diamond, okay? So they listen to the Lou Diamond, you know what I'm saying? The work has never been a question, you know what I'm saying? The times have changed. Yes, sir. You know, but at the end of the day, we hear we got a lot of different avenues now as we was talking before we came online, a lot of different things that we can do to change the way that things are being done and also to add to things that are still, you know, some things are still working. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think a lot of people don't, they forget that too. Who was that last night time when they sell CDs? Oh. Oh, chief. John Chief. He was saying he can sell CDs because at the end of the day, we told him Pimkin, Pimkin coming in and saying, I ain't got no damn DVD player, but because it's my guy, you know what I'm saying? Support. I'm gonna support him because this nigga brought a case in here full of DVD, nigga, you don't even got those DVDs, nigga. Give me two of them, yeah. All right, it's still a demand for certain things. Exactly. You know, because it turns from, sometimes it may turn from a person listening to a collector's item. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Memorabilia, you know what I'm saying? Exactly, but what I want to know, I want to know about it, nigga, because I see you all over the social media, pushing it, promoting it, I mean, showing it. Is that my bottle? Yes, that actually is, you know what I'm saying? That actually is your bottle. Why are you looking at me like that? No, not y'all, it's mine. It's not y'all's, he don't drink. You know, queen of the house, you know, I ever, yeah, I brought it for you. What this is, this is my brand, man. It's Dallas based bourbon. We got a... Dallas based, I love that. Yeah, Dallas based, we made, we got the Distillery, y'all should come down. We're gonna do an event, y'all should come down. It's right off of Mike and Bird in 35. I know what that is. You come see where it's made and stuff like that. But this right here is a botanical bourbon. It's a vegan, the thing about us with this, I got a gin and a bourbon. You guys see two different bottles that you'd be showing the taller bottle in that one? Yeah, the taller bottle and the gin and then the darker bottle bourbon, thing about them, they're both plant based. They're vegan, you know, no sugars, no nothing like that at it, you know, so you don't get drunk real quick cause that stage of sugar gets you drunk real quick. Nah, it's gonna get you drunk cause it's 90 proof, you know what I mean? So, no, it's the real deal. But nah, it's smooth, man. It's just one of the smoothest bourbons and smoothest gins you're gonna ever take. So this is your company? Well, it's a partnership with a company. It's a company, Rockstar is the actual company. They were already branded, they were already based, you know, when I came home. They were about a year in production and then I ended up linking with them. How did that happen? How did the link come about? Because the reason why I'm asking that because there's a lot of people who'd be sitting down watching the show and be like, oh, I wanna do that, how did he do that? Yeah, well, it comes from what like you said, just working. What I did was actually, I did a video, I don't know if you remember, we did a video with DLC, Money Waters. Yeah, I remember that. So we did the salad video and that's when the first time I went to the distillery and I got there. So then after we did the distillery, after we did that video, the owners of it called us, say, hey man, we wanna help brand this liquor, can you guys come do a photo shoot for us? So they called us down there and they all came down there and paid us to do a photo shoot, you know. So everybody did the photo shoot but at the end of the day, it was a lot of artists, a lot of us that went after the set, they all left. You know what I mean? And you hung around? Yeah, I stayed, I told them, I gave them, I'm like, hey, you keep this, you know what I'm saying? What are you trying to give us? I say, you keep that. Just give me some more bottles, you know what I'm saying? Give me a week, I'll be back, you know what I mean? I left that night. See, you saw the crying in there. Yeah, I went to the hub, mess with baby, I went to Addy Devereux, went down there, mess with Bruce Wayne, you know, I did a whole lot of things and I went back with him with footage and stuff that Tuesday. I was gonna wait till that Thursday but I went back that Tuesday and then I made him a promise, I said some stuff, you know what I mean? We made an agreement and then shoot. I hope you got an agreement and writing. Yeah, we here. Yeah, I might have a new sponsor, might have a new sponsor, Taylor Gabriel, you didn't do what you said, nigga. Yeah, nigga, I might have something else to do now. So, Taylor, if you watching, know that there's other niggas out there who live in there. That's my boy. But I love that, though. And I love his Dallas base, I love his vegan because the way how the industry is right now, everybody is going vegan. People are trying to, you know, animal cruelty and all of that is real. So people are trying to, you know, save the planet and all of that. Yep, this is the planet's say, well, really, we're still eating, we're using the grass and the herbs cause like when y'all come and we show you the process of when it's made, you know, we're gonna, you'll see. I can't wait to see that. Make sure to send me the invite so I know exactly what date and stuff. Man, it's just something when you can get out and come home and get busy. Get busy. Get busy, man, I'm gonna talk about a few things. Cause that grinds stay inside of you, no matter what. We about to go down through there. So, I mean, a lot of stuff, I didn't ask you last time, you were still just fresh coming home. I tried to take it easy on you, but this time, I'm not gonna take it easy on you, okay? When you first came home, I was like, damn, I didn't ask that question. I didn't get to ask that question, but I've been through it though. Yeah, when I left, okay, when I got myself in a situation, I left, I was gonna, I was gonna say about four months before my old lady was gone. She took my car, she had another nigga driving with my kids inside of it. Not me, by the way. Not me. It was 20 years, this was past 20 years ago, but it happened, bro. I didn't get to see my kids for a long time, bro. I'm being real. And I'm like, if anybody's supposed to be asking these questions, it's supposed to be me because I done lived it. Am I right? You heard me talk these stories the whole time. So you go, last time when you get put away, go to the feds. How long was it that you, before you and your lady start having problems? Well, actually, bro, I didn't find that to a year before I got out. Probably, you know what I mean? Hold on, how long were you in there that time? I was gone for years, you know what I'm saying? But really it was five years, but like the end of the fourth year I got out and then I went to the half. Ain't nobody called you and told you? You know what I'm saying? Nah, nobody told me, you know? So, you know, that was three by, so three and a half years, three by three years before I find out, you know what I mean? Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I know you're gonna ask something, but me being a woman, I'm trying to think. So you didn't see no signs? Was she keep, was she calling you, talking to you, visiting you, all of that? Nah, yeah, she was visiting, you know what I mean? She was visiting me, it's the normal thing, you know? You got people that sleep in the bed next to you every day and you don't know, you know what I'm saying? That's right, exactly right. You know, my mind wasn't looking at that and I wasn't thinking on that, you know? Cause I'm like, man, nigga, you know, this is me, you know, my mind just gonna stay down, this is my favorite moment, you know? Pop, pop, you know what I'm saying? But I'm human, she human, you know what I mean? I don't hate her for it. I was sick when I first found out. I ain't gonna lie, I was sick, you know what I mean? Yeah, of course. Could eat, you know what I mean? Yeah, surely. But I'm glad I found out inside of there because the thing about it off inside of there, you know, it made me, you can't react the way you wanna react. Made you stronger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta, you can't, you can't avoid it, you gotta face it cause that door locks. So, how did you find out that this had happened and to be real with you, I mean, you used to write the letters home, do you do a little art and everything? Yeah, I mean, I didn't do the art, but I would have. A little art for the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't never really holding it down from the inside, you know what I'm saying? You know, as much as I like that. Cause that's what we do, you know what I'm saying? Send the kite home, bam, yeah, everything good. That thing, you know, somebody come down there, had somebody to wrote you a letter. Yeah, they wrote me. It was one of my ex-girlfriends, you know what I'm saying? One of my ex-girlfriends, you know, she was upset when we had split up or whatever, you know what I'm saying? And then she hit me with a long email, like, I just saw your wife in the club, Blah, blah, blah, and you, you left me for that and I would have held you down, I'm like, man. And then, look, she got mad the way I responded cause she thought, I guess she thought I would pull the respond like, man, that's fucked up, fuck that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, look, don't be mad, you know what I'm saying? You can't be mad about some shit, you know what I'm saying? That I'm not going to be mad about it. And I was just like, say, look, we all grown, that's a grown woman's shit, what it is, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, everybody make their choices. Hey, you know what I mean? I was dating you while I was married, you know what I mean? So, you know, I just grew up, man. You know what I'm saying? So shit, I pushed that shit to the side. So I guess they didn't expect me to grow. You know what I mean? And I'm glad I did, you know? Did she try to explain herself to you like? I mean, why, you know, not at first. You know, it's just like anybody at first when you get busted, you know, it's like, you know, well, then they try to start to argument. You know what I mean? And then you got to keep your mind, shit, I'm in jail. So, you know, she controls the situation. Anybody on the outside controls the situation because they can either A, answer the phone or not answer the phone. But the first time when you found out, what was the conversation between you and her? Because when you first found out, did you pick up the phone and call her? Hell, yeah. And she didn't know that you knew at that time. Nah, and it was actually like, like what, about two days before our anniversary? Our anniversary on December 5th, you know what I'm saying? I found out like probably like December 3rd or some shit like that. You know what I'm saying? What I mean, you know what I mean? And what was our conversation like? Shit, like, nigga, I was hot, nigga, I'm hot, nigga. For real, you know what I'm saying? I heard sudden, sudden, sudden, such. And she denied it all? Yeah, cause I'm all the way, I'm cool at first, you know what I'm saying? But it was when she kept denying it that pissed me off. I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying? That's why I snapped. You know what I'm saying? And then she hung up. You know what I mean, and then so. You know, one thing about it though, you know, what's for you, can't nobody take it from you. Yeah. If it's really yours, then it's yours. Hey, well, what was mine is my peace, bro. Bang. You know what I'm saying? That's good. And that's what I realized, you know what I mean? So like I say, I had to lose every single thing off inside of there, you know what I mean? He had to strip me. I already stripped me from all my partners, you know what I'm saying? I lost all that security and that void that was taken away from me, you know what I mean? When I was on pretrial, because I seen how everybody acted when I got out and they wouldn't answer the phone and stuff like that. So it was kind of easy for me when I went back to jail because I wasn't expecting nobody. All I expected was my mother, my brothers and my wife and kids, you know what I'm saying? I'm a big mama. So then I was still dependent on that. So when she did that shit, it just broke it down to where it just opened my eyes up. Like say, you in this, no matter what, good or bad, you got to keep moving. So you just got to know, like, you can expect anything from everybody and with me knowing and expecting it from everybody, it makes me not be so upset about it when this stuff do happen and it makes me not lose focus. But don't it make you, cause trusting, especially not the female again, and it gives you trust issues and you react to certain, yeah, you're certain, trust. I noticed that both of the ones that you wear, one says trust and one says friends. With a line through it. But so you have no trust? Well, it ain't just that it's no trust, but we got to understand it and that I don't trust you. You know what I'm saying? If we're in a relationship or whatever, you got to understand, I don't trust certain situations. It's just, you know, I just don't trust situations. I don't take nothing from you, you know, but it's just like, I'm gonna still live and proceed my life, but when it happened, I expected it. You know, I'm not finna say like, you know, I didn't expect it cause I know it's possible. Very possible. So I'm not finna be naive. But don't it make you judge certain situations incorrectly? Yeah, that's due, but that's for PTSD, you know, with any type of situation that you get, damn it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Trust no one but God on my back and I was done. Yeah, you know. Then you start slipping, you start thinking you can trust again and all that and get married and have kids and all this stuff. You just keep going, keep going because we are made to, you know, God made us, for me, this is the way I believe, you know, he pretty much made us for companionship. So you want that companion, you long for the companionship. You know what I mean? It's very, very, when I think about being single and being in that house is very, very quiet. Yeah. No, it is. Unless you got kids, but it's quiet, you sitting in there, you get you some, you don't even have to cook a whole meal either. You can get you a can of beans, you don't need no bread. You get you some beans and then you eat your beans and go watch TV. It's very, very lonely. You can run out of something and you don't mind, you're like, I'll get it tomorrow because I'm just, I'm the only one here. No, true. I'm being real. Because those things happen, like you, you know, people showing up at your house, you happy just to have somebody come by. What, girl? You see him come by? Yeah. Now this is, because that's what companionship does for you. But then again, when a child of them broke on you, once you get back in that church, it never feel the same again. Cause you know, you can't trust it cause it'll break again or you don't want to fall and hurt yourself. Yeah, no, but you know, that doesn't mean that the relationship is tainted forever. You know, cause like right now I got a good relationship with my baby mom and them. You know what I mean? Cause it's for the simple fact, bro. Mine did some shit. Already. You know what I'm saying? So come on, man. Shit, you know what I mean? She don't forgive me so many times just cause I forgive her. That don't mean we gotta be back together, you know, whatever, but we got kids broke. She is the mother of my children and I got a respect and I want my kids to see, you know, you gonna respect your child's mother. You know what I mean? No matter what it is, because we all make mistakes at a certain point in time. Man, nobody's perfect. Yeah, ain't nobody perfect. So I ain't flex on that. But it took a minute for you to get there. Yeah, it took a long minute. You know what I mean? It took a long minute, but I got there. You know what I'm saying? You're not looking at, you know, you and, and the way you are, you know, you're very laid back, very, you know, you're not looking for no issues. You know what I'm saying? You keep everything at a calm, you know what I mean? Trying to keep peace. Yeah. I look at you and you can't fake that this long. You know, I've been watching you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Nah, I understand. So I'm like, okay, this guy really is chill. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He's really a good dude. You know what I mean? And I think that's something that the city needs. Yeah. Especially with everything that transpired in this whole, this whole city. Did you, I got to bring up chief cause he was here last night. Yeah. What happened with him down in Tyler. It was unfortunate the way it looked. Can I? All right. But I want to get your interjection on how you feel about the whole situation. Don't leave nothing out in detail. What you think? I'm going to tell you what I feel. Okay. I'm not going to start right there. All right. God works in mysterious ways. You know what I'm saying? We all pray and ask for certain things, bro. These last couple of weeks since y'all have seen chief, since I've seen chief, bro has been asking for attention and he's been asking for his respect and his flowers and stuff like that. You know what I mean? And he's been getting some backlash on how people, whatever, trying to, but his name still been getting back out there. It's getting like half people saying, yeah man, he was a legend. Another half like he need to chill but he's still getting spoke about. Oh yeah. All right. Now we take it to this, to this finesse thing. You know what I'm saying? Dude, like I say, God work in mysterious ways, bro. Now, this boy, however it look, forget however it look for bad or for good, whatever. This boy name is being mentioned by the hardest rapper in the industry right now. You know what I mean? It went from the fuck them. You know what I'm saying? Goofy ass rapper to the nigga, apologizing to being on there saying it was a Dallas legend on the stage and I made a mistake, but y'all don't know the whole backstory. So I look at it like this, bro, that was meant to happen, bro. And chief needs to make the best out of that situation. Don't worry about, let the, cause look bro, he could damn near look up and never know might end up getting a free feature from this man for that. You know what I mean? Or at least a one on one face to face. But I know for a fact his name has been spread. So like I say, he has been praying for, you know what I mean? The opportunity to be heard, to be seen, to be recognized. And what better way to get recognized? You know what I'm saying? Right now. You know what I mean? And that's what we told him last night. Last night we told him. We told him, take advantage of all of this that's going on. Take advantage of it, bro. And today, I talked to him today as well, but it's just like these doors are opening. The views are going up. The subscribers are going up. The followers are going up. What are you gonna do about it? Exactly. That's where I'm at with it. I'm real forceful when it come down to my people and the people God put in my circle. Like I was talking to you when it first started, like we gotta do this. We gotta do this cause we don't do this. We miss an opportunity that can change your kids' kids' life. Yeah. And we got opportunity to do that. Not to mention the fact that once you're gone, the footage, the conversations, you can't take life for granted. You know what I mean? But just to go back in the chief a little bit. Chief, yeah, he been going through a lot lately Me and Chief, we have good interviews, man. He helped me going, man. I love that he don't get bothered easy. He's real. He never changes the way that he speaks. And he gotta come back for everything. His come back would be so slick in the way how he said. He's something else. We had a good time last night, man. Yeah, I asked him about y'all. Then I asked him about the whole your tongue record and just how it happened from his. And he talked about that last night. Cause I was like, he's like, I was young, man. You know? And I was, what'd he say about old thuggers, where his bone, they were hot at the time. He wanted to make it sound like, you know, when he's saying, like them kind of, you know. Yeah. I ain't never. He had me laughing, man. He's tough. Yeah, I'm going to put it out, but he had me laughing, man. Had a good time, man. He just been going through a lot, a lot. You know, I don't think Finesse didn't know who he was when there's two times. But like I said, shout out to these Texas too. Cause I'm from down there and to be real with you, a lot of them people called me and let me know how, they didn't appreciate it actually. A lot of them got him in box, a lot of them called me. Hey man, he shouldn't have done that down here. It's a, it'd be, it'd be, it'd be like, they going through stuff and you don't know what they going through. But as professional public figures, you got to maintain integrity and more as when you in the face of the people who love you. Just like if you went up there and kicked somebody, you know, you know, some people have kicked people, right? Yeah, true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true. You got to hold yourself back from, bro. Nah, I understand, I understand, I understand. I was just looking at it, bro. And like, and you know, I seen one of them on another channel, you know, when they were showing up close up and they seemed like once they told chief and they told she hood and chief was like, cool chief who gave the mic and said, go and chill, the DJ kept playing the music. Like the DJ was supposed to stop the music by that time. And it rolled for almost another 30, 45 seconds and chief, he's not rapping. He done been gated a mic up, like, you know, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, then that's when bro, like, she out, you know. Cut that shit off, you know what he said? Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. But what I look at with this, you know, he's, for the main fact, he said, well, I don't, I didn't know who he was and stuff like that. I think there is a missing gap, like, with the new and the old. I really feel like these new rappers needs to do their research and know, especially where Dallas, if you're in the city, if you're in Texas, you need to know these legends. But you can't know everybody. That's what I'm about to say, like, you got to keep in mind, this man right here been locked up for half a many years. Now, he just came out, he going city for city every night. I ain't taking enough for for now. I'm just saying, he's going, I'm an artist so I know you go city from city every night, you don't remember, or you don't even have time to even ask where we at. Sometimes you might be like, dang, what city we in before you get on stage? You got to ask, hey, what city we in? So you don't say the wrong city. You know what I mean? I know I was just in Dallas, this time to make sure, you know what I mean? So you don't always know. You don't even, really, we don't even know who performing, who opening up for us. Like out of 90% of the shows that I go to, I don't know who opening up for me. I just show up at the venue, you know what I mean? And then I come in when it's my time to perform. Some of them I don't even see. You know what I'm saying? I think Groovy is what my boy chiefs say, is Groovy hell. So it ain't really just no big deal to him anyway. That nigga ain't know my music. You know what I'm saying? He ain't know me. So it wasn't for me. That's how he'd be chilling up in here. Like, I mean, but you know, he ain't trying to hear all that. He's so above the situation. That's what I like about him. He ain't trying to hear that man. And he talented, you talented, man. You can't take another way from our legend. You can go with that nigga, this Texas nigga. And I've been to build it. This is no gave me no mic round this hole. Nigga, we winning, yeah. Big facts. But I just love the fact that you guys are finding your way, you know? Cause a lot of people are laid it down. They ain't messing with this no more. They can't understand the algorithm of the way that the social media has been being accomplished. They can't understand even old comedians that we deal with them too, old actors. They can't get it over on this side. They got talent, but they don't understand how to convey it over to the social media platforms and waves like before Will slapped, I always said before he slapped Chris, he had it going on. You know, he's seen him. He was harder than everybody on Instagram. When nobody harder than Will Smith on Instagram before he slapped Chris Rock. But at the end of the day, he had found that wave and he was dealing with the red tabletop over there on Facebook. So they was figuring it out. Man, there's something to it. That's all I keep saying. I gotta say that's on my listeners, especially my brothers and sisters will hear it. You know what I'm saying? You gotta figure this thing out. So another subject, gotta talk about this. You know, I'm gonna ask you about everything that's going on in the news. Zero. Zero's in Houston just a few weeks ago and love zero, love trade. This is Texas. They've been going through some things. It ends up spilling onto the news. Well, you know, zero's on TMZ, I believe. Hell, he was on a couple of those shows, you know? Yeah. Explaining what happened. First he comes out and he says, hey man, you know, they jumped me. And then trade comes out and said, nah, they ain't jumped me. It wasn't like that. You know, we just had a family and all that good stuff. What do you, I got two questions for you. What do you think about that? And the second part of that question is, how do you come back from that on Zero's part? Honestly fam, of course I hate it. Cause I know- Definitely hate it. I know Trey. Me too. I'm like a real good friend with Trey, you know what I'm saying? And I don't really know Zero as much, but I have been around him. But I really don't even want to speak on the issue because like straight up, you don't know what, you know, I don't know what happened. I don't know enough, you know? Yeah, I watched, I seen the video, you know what I'm saying? Or parts of the video, but I don't know what, you know what I'm saying? What that, what, like, like I did see all interviews of both of them said it was 10 years to 12 years of buildup. So I mean, you don't know what I had. You don't know what they could buy. Yeah, I don't know what was said, what would happen. Blah, blah, blah. So I don't want to speak on it. I don't even want to get my opinion. I just know I do hate it. I don't, I hate to see them, you know what I'm saying? Going through it. What about- At the end of the day, don't hold in things for that long because whenever you do explode it's gonna be a big explosion. It's gonna be a big one. And that's any situation. I'm not just talking about that situation. I'm talking about everything. Relationships, friendships, whatever. Just don't hold it in really. Yeah, for real. That's real. But far as coming back from it, I will say, because you ain't speaking on it, but that's something a rapper is made up to be this crazy image in certain situations. Well, look, you being how he can come back from being jumped, like- Come back for his people and all. Yeah, that's what, yeah. See, that's the thing about it. In his situation, you know what I'm saying? He got jumped, you know what I'm saying? So he already up. If it's one of them comebacks, you know what I'm saying? Because the average person gonna be like, ah, he didn't get it for a fade anyway, so that don't count. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So he put some music out that he's gonna stand integrity. Yeah, because otherwise, you know, it's gonna have to go another way, you know what I'm saying? That's not the, you both know what comes from that. Correct, correct. So his best thing is just to continue working. Continue working. He should put something out now, because for the main fact, even if it does not talk about a situation, people gonna feel like it will. So everybody's gonna be looking out and like, oh, he just dropped something. Let me go see if he talking about it. What happened? Yeah, and he definitely gonna rock out, cause he don't miss. He don't miss. And it's unfortunate, but this is the life we live in. The internet, as soon as somebody, and we're gonna talk about PMB, is it name? Yeah, correct. And our PMB. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. You know, bro, there's one thing, I'm not mean to stop you, bro, but pick this, bro. This industry, bro, this generation, bro, I just wanna say this, bro, this is like one of the saddest times that I've seen, cause I've never seen so many people wanna die so easily and I wanna live so bad. And only reason I say that, cause look, bro, what Jay-Z said, not too long ago, it's like, but with this like 50 years of hip hop, we've been going through 50 years of hip hop. All right, let's take this 50 years of hip hop, and I guarantee you over the last two years, we have lost more hip hop artists over the last 50 years from death, you know what I mean? From killings, you know what I mean? Yeah, we might've lost one, two, five, bro, we're losing one every week, you know? And we get on here and we talk shit, you know, about when the cops kill us, you know what I'm saying? All these rappers that's been dying, ain't been no cop killing, you know what I'm saying? You know, all these, this is us doing us. You know what I mean? And it's not, it's just, it's fucking sad, bro. You know, it's sad, you know? And it's hard to, and really, I don't even know how you can really even fix it. You know, it's like they have to get a reset, a mindset reset, bro, because the way that they thinking, what they glorifying, what they think is the real, what they think is the gangster is the complete opposite and they crashing, bro. You know, they crashing bad. And it's hard because they in the age, like you say, well, we can get these 30s and 40 and 100,000s a month off Facebook and YouTube and these little guys are doing it, you know what I mean? So how do you tell somebody who got, you know, even when I be out here with the young niggas on the street, how you tell somebody who got a hundred ball in a pocket just to play with, you know what I mean? And do this thing. Yeah, they're gonna look at you like, you ain't got what I got. So how you can tell me anything? Exactly. No, I don't need you to tell me nothing, nigga, I'm getting it. Even if you do got what I got. Exactly. You write about that. But everything happens for a reason. It's on time, you know, we can't control life. We can't, the only thing you can control is yourself. I always say that. But how, how much do you, do you blame drill music and all of that? Man, I just, I ain't bro, like I say, the music. Cause music impacts a lot. Yeah. But the music was, it didn't impact everything. When, when, when Pimp C was saying he was a pimp, and when Two Sharp was saying, you know, calling every girl a bitch, you know what I'm saying? It didn't change the narrative and make every girl a bitch. It didn't, but it made a lot of more people go out there and call woman bitches. No, no, not really. They was already doing it. They was already doing it. Just got publicized. It was just fan-sealed the way they said it. Hell, these niggas ain't changed. The Bible saying nothing new under the sun. I really believe that. I don't think it's nothing so new. I really don't. Cause they was killing like a mug back when they was, I don't know when they was doing the NWAs and one of the spicy ones and you know, it was gangbanging real hard. But like at that time, the violence, the crime was hot. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Rodney King, you remember his incident about it? He got hit by the laws, but it was more people dying during that time. Whether it's David Koresh, he's always been killings, man. There's a lot of stuff to be going on, man. I just really think the count is not getting no better on the worst, but how do we live and survive in a way to where we can impact something like Martin Luther King them did, to where people change the way the narrative and start trying to flow. Malcolm X did, where you grab a whole group of nation of people and start to move and maneuver them in a way that there is a change happening. That's really important. Yeah, but that start like with creating the narrative was just like what she's saying as like sometimes with the music, that's what had to happen. Somebody hasn't created a narrative with the music cause right now that's what's getting listened to more than somebody to get spoke to. We are the world. Y'all ain't even know we are the world, Lucha or nothing. Y'all, it's over with. Nobody even listen to slow music no more. It's discussed and to be honest, that's a lot of reason. It seems to be going faster cause that damn music is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And at the end of the day, there's no chill. I'm happy about the ones who be singing with the pain like the Red Shuns, the Rod Waves, man. For a change something. Hell, at least they is trying to get some therapy within stuff that they're saying. It's a lot of great artists out there. It's just the certain ones that's getting glorified and get put in the front, you know? That's how it is. It's a lot. It's a lot of like you say, like we went to sing it's a lot of the good R&B artists out there but you won't hear them. You won't hear them. Cause there's not what's in demand. But how do you know it's not in demand? You know, it's like, oh no, man. Why not be the change? Why not? Yes, you're going to go through a lot of issue because whoever first started something, they didn't just get up and say okay, I'm going to create rap today and I'm just going to come out here and I'm going to blow it and everybody going to love it. It's going to take so much time cause I guarantee you when rap first came about and people listen to it, what's that? No, let me tell you how it happened. I was glad, Jess. I was there. I was in the living room in Las Vegas, Nevada. That wasn't the first time it came out. Yeah, it was the first time I heard it. That was the first time you heard it but it wasn't the first time it came out. Nobody was rapping, the fat boys. You had the fat boys. You might have had a couple of different groups and it was just run DMC, the fat boys and the Sugar Hill gang and Curtis Blow. It wasn't many of them and I was there. That's all I wanted to say. And at the end of the day, it started off pumping, baby. And then next thing, you know, Eric being rock him came. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The nice came. Yeah, boogie down production came. I understand what you're saying. All I'm saying is don't set up or act like this rap. It's a part of it. But people have issues. When you have broken homes like we've had, mothers and fathers not in the home, people go into prison, all type of stuff. The government ties what they basically, the DA, what was that old boy named down there? The one that got all them people out of jail that was falsely accused of DA down there. I don't forgot his name. Somebody in Houston? No, here in Dallas, a few years back. Matter of fact, the old girl down there had got the stove with one of them that got out. But I wasn't talking about the fact that it was rap. I'm talking about change takes time. That's really what my point was. Change takes time and it takes somebody standing up. And it's not gonna happen over time. It takes you doing it, doing it when people looking at you and be like, what you doing? Why are you doing that? That ain't none. You need to go sit down. It takes you staying up and saying, you know what? I'm gonna keep doing this till other people follow because this is positive. So Pete, what you saying that? I wanna speak to you about that. Like, look, that's what, all right. You know, they get the topic about me with the music around here in the city. Okay, look, I do music. No, I love music, you know what I mean? But the type of music that I do ain't nobody doing right now. And ain't nobody gonna take the risk to do it right now. You know what I mean? I got this triple D go album. You know what I'm saying? It's a three part series and I love my D's. You know what I'm saying? Each one stands for something else. This first one is demonstrate, you know what I mean? You have to step out and show people, hey, you can get it this way too. You know what I'm saying? And that's all I'm gonna say about that. So it's like, if I don't do it, you know what I mean? It's gonna, I give up. But, and you can't give up. You have to know that there's a higher purpose of what you're doing. And no matter what people saying, even sometimes the people that you love, sometimes the people that you respect might be trying to put you down. If you know that whatever is God's purpose, you just gotta keep pushing. Craig Watkins was his name. That's who it is. He helped get a lot of people out of jail. And all of them said, prison. They were falsely accused. They was putting fake drugs, all kind of stuff when he got to be the DA down there. You see what I'm saying? I'm just saying it's a lot of different things that causes our generation no gaps that we deal with. It's not just rap. It's mothers and fathers. It goes back. I ain't gonna lie to y'all. In my eyes it's something that trickled down from different generations. I can remember my granddaddy and my grandmother and then them going to the courthouse but standing outside and wouldn't go in. And they didn't even feel comfortable. I still, they don't feel comfortable when you go in certain settings. You have to force yourself to try to feel away when you're in these certain settings because you know how the stereotype is on us. I know when you went to that court you didn't feel comfortable. They're very uncomfortable. You see what I'm saying? Because you know already it's not fooboo, it's not for us, it's got the scale in there. The scale is uneven. You know damn well, you ain't gonna get a fair trial with that scale being uneven. Shit's so crazy, I go in the courthouse just to go get the DBA shit and feel out. You know what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? That's exactly right, that's true. And I went in there for some good shit. Good stuff. But it just still felt like I used to report back over there some shit, I was saying like there's different shit. So yeah, I understand. That's all I'm saying, man, we just got a long road ahead and we gotta try to figure out a way to, like I say, not just, you might can't change the world, but you can change your world. The things that you're talking about doing and implementing can change some lives in front of you. Us walking a certain way in front of people can change lives that surround us. People who come on the podcast, people ask me about different people coming out. He on drugs, he on this, but me and my wife have been married for 20 years. I don't do nothing. I'm just as lame as they come. And I got to show that to you. You know, I'm square it up over here. I did a lot of this stuff. So I think that's the kind of stuff that helps, you know what I mean? But you don't have to say it, you have to be it. I got a question. So what are the other two D's? What does it mean? I'll let you know when they come out. He's so wrong. Let's start. Let's demonstrate that. Okay, so the first one is demonstrate. So if you not letting everybody know, can you tell me what date, like what months we going to find out the rest of these? As they drop. So you don't know, you don't have a, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Cause it's three, like I say. Where did you get the inspiration for this from? Man, like believe it or not, since like all my names have been given to me, everybody, you know, this, this, this. Like, so when I, since I've been home that I've been doing and I've been working steady going and just, that's what people come to me and they give me and give me that and give me that. And that's what they tell me. And so when I thought about this triple D goat album, I was thinking of, you know, when I mean triple D goat, I'm not just talking about the music side of it. You know what I mean? I know I'm a great artist, you know what I mean? But it's way more that I put an investment to the city than the music. You know what I mean? I'm talking about stuff behind closed doors that I'd never talk about. I was just about to ask if you want to talk about it. Yeah, now I'm just saying like even invest in an artist, you know what I mean? Helping other artists doing this for other artists and shit. These artists know what I do for them behind closed doors but I don't go put it on blast to hey, hey, I did this charity work for this artist or did this for this artist and stuff like that or invested this time in this artist. I don't do that. I invest the time in the artist and keep working, you know? But some of them, I really feel like some you should show because then for the main fact that other artists who's watching you know that, okay, I can come to him and get advice or I can come to him and get help because you have people who will see or walk and see you and want to come to you but scared to come to you. Well, as I move, I mean, maybe, but honestly, Ms. Jamaica, they ain't scared to come to me. I'm everywhere. I'm out there. They know every Thursday I got the club. Every Thursday and Saturday, people come to the club and perform, you know? Me and Stack, Moe, Fats and Prilo. What club is that? It's the dive on 75, you know? Okay. Run at every Thursday. You know, man? We do the, well, we let the artists come in there and perform the ones that we do contests while I take them on the road and open up or we do contests like the last two weeks. So like this week, we give away a music video from a well-known videographer. So every week we doing something to help the artists, you know, whether it's studio time, features, whatever, we working with them. And these artists know and my inbox, they inbox me, I respond. They see me on the street. I take the time, I don't care where I'm at, who I'm with, you know? They know they gonna touch me, they gonna reach me. You know, I'm out there. So since you're out there and you've seen all these artists, the new coming artists, is there someone that we need to be in tune with that you see? It's a lot of them. It's a lot of them, you know? I didn't mean one. I didn't mean one. One, right. Did you know you see something? I have to say, look, Q900. Why? Why don't you talk about it. I would say, yeah, the one I was telling you about. Why him? Because what we was just talking about, another artist stepping outside the box doing something else and the boy's talented, you know? He doesn't wanna just do the rapping. He does the singing, you know? And he reminds me more of like a young blue. He's got a soul, he got a sound that, you know, it just touches you and it's different, you know? And he's creative. And he ain't on what everybody wanna say, drill music or on this dumb, dumb stuff, you know? He's making good, feel good music what we used to listen to, you know? Something you just get in there and just vibe out. You two can ride, you know? My mama can listen to her ride, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that. And there's not too many artists that's making crossover music, you know what I mean? And doing it, so. Well, what would you tell an artist like that? I'm just giving a scenario because I don't know him. But say an artist like that who wanna do all of that but they wanna see the money coming in at the same time and because it's not such a popular thing to do. They're not getting all the streams. They're not getting the money built up real quick to help feed their family and all of that because that's the reason why a lot of people usually drift to what's trending right now because that's where the money's at. They're on the top. Right, what can you tell him in order for him to stay down with, you know, be real to himself? All right, this is not only what I tell him, this is what I show to him, you know what I mean? I show a lot of people. Y'all know when I came home, I had nothing, not a dollar, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to do that album. But in order for me to do that album, I need finances and as a man, I needed to be able to take care of myself. I worked a job. And your kids? And my kids, I worked a job. Nine to five for a whole year and a half straight and I didn't stop and even once I dropped out, I kept working, I didn't stop until my PO said, you're free to go on the road and do shows and get other money. But I knew I had to provide for myself so I worked a job. So I got to tell these other artists, you're not recording every single day. I don't care how hard you is. You ain't in the studio every single day recording. You got open time. So what you need to do is you still have to survive as a man. You still have to be able to take care of yourself. It's not a shame to work a job. Don't have too much pride to do what you have to do till you can do what you want to do. If you sit inside that studio and you think that you're just gonna wait until that big hit come and all the money's gonna flood, you're done. You know what I mean? Because even like one of them asked me the other day, like, hey, how soon does the money start coming in off the streams? You know what I'm saying? He was like, because, you know, it's been at how long it started coming off the streams. And I laugh. I say, shit, boy, only if you knew, I say, look, I pulled up my streams and showed them my streams and I'm getting hundreds of thousands of streams and I'm just showing them, hey, look, how many streams you gotta get to make this much. You know what I mean? This, you know what I mean? You are almost, yeah, you're almost 180, 200,000 streams for $100, you know what I'm saying? So, you ain't nowhere near to fall out of people. Yeah, but like I tell them, I don't stick on their music. You know what I mean? That's why I work with the club. That's why I do the liquor. That's why I do the clothes. That's why I do every fucking anything else that I can make happen, because you do not put all your eggs in one basket. You do this music. You do it to the fullest, but you still have to provide as a man for yourself and your family at the end of the day. When you said that, I'm just gonna say this, and then I'm gonna let you do it. Really? We were in Atlanta recently, and everywhere we walked downtown on every little trash can or whatever, you saw a sign with money bag, yo, and it said that the quote was, a nine to five job is in corny. What's the other part? He said, nine to five job is in corny. It's not working or something like that. It's corny. Yeah, for real. Because a lot of people feel like, you know, it's corny being a nine to five guy. Why? You know what I'm saying? I used to think that back in the day. I'm not lying. I used to think that, but after being in that jail, bro, and working for nine cents an hour, you know what I'm saying? And doing this every day, you realize, damn, like I say, bro, you're not in the studio every day. You don't do a concert every single day. Okay, and then do less. Let's look at this. If you do wanna only do the music, right? All right? You could still press CDs and you have to go out there and sit on that corner, right? Bro, all right? The average workers went making anywhere from 10 to $15 an hour, bro. You got CDs, bro, selling $5 a piece. If you could sell two CDs an hour, you could work minimum wage. So if you go out there and then sell, say a quote, $100 an hour, like I've been $100 a day, like you would as a job, you know, you could still stay in your music, but you just can't sit and wait for that. I don't give a fuck who you is. Don't sit and wait for nothing to come to you. I agree, I agree with that 100%. Don't sit and wait. You know me, I gotta go back into the subject that's happening on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, talk to me, talk to me. That was your, your names came up a few times as you already will, no? Yeah. You were asked a question on another show. I ain't gonna say the nigga name. No, Muggle Medium. Let me quit. No niggas be doing me like that. Shout out Vlad, nigga. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna say his name. You know what I'm saying? Well, I guess I will. Yeah. Muggle Medium. That's my boy Big D the Muggle. Yeah, sure. At any rate, I told him quit messing with you over there. Y'all interview, you need to intensify and interviews every day. That's my, that's my, that's my guy though. I like him a lot as well too. You know, I fought with anybody that can think outside of the box, you know what I mean? So, you know, we did what it is. He asked you a question about would you do music with certain artists, yellow, trap? I don't know if he said Bobby Billions but I know your name came up on the show and it was like when I talked to Rainer, it was like, hey, you know, you shouldn't do music with nobody. If you know, you know, you're old rapper, you should be a sort of label, bridge the gaps pretty much from a different distance, you know, now and when he said that, it was like, I feel you, you know, but I think you know, you always gonna rebut some, so you probably see it some, no one else. But at any rate, just you being in the game, how long do you plan on doing this? Is there a, is there a ending point or do you feel you even have to get out the game, you know, as far as, you know, the entertainment go? No, I don't, you know what I'm saying? Quincy Jones did his music till he died, you know what I'm saying? Quincy Jones did? Well, I, well, you see, that's what I'm saying. He's still going. I don't know. I just know the nigga over there, you know what I'm saying? He's still around, bro. He a old ass musician, if that's what we looking at, you know what I mean? This is one thing I understand if you look at inside of our industry, I'm gonna ask all them questions, but when it comes to the age factor inside of no other inch, no other genre of music has an age cap on it, except hip hop. Why can these old rock band motherfuckers keep riding around today, 90 years old doing shows? Why can these old country muses still do this? Why can the R&B people, why can Ronald Ozzie and them still go out here? Some of them can't even hold a tune no more. I went to one where my mama not too long ago and it was, you know, but they still being able to go out here and do this, you know what I'm saying? Who are you saying? I'm not saying that, we can't say that in there. But all I'm saying is they my nipples though, why are these people still able to go out here and do this, you know what I'm saying? Because they have loyal fans. It's a problem, exactly. So why is it a problem if I'm just, forget it, I'm not trying to gain on new fans, what if I'm just keeping my loyal fans happy? You know what I'm saying? Forget the money. What if I'm just keeping my loyal fans happy, you know? All right, look, I just got booked out of nowhere. You know what I mean? Keep in mind, if I stop working, you know, just say if I came home, I wasn't doing nothing, you know? And why would everybody talk about me rapping, bro? Keep in mind, bro, I only been rapping a year since I came home. I only dropped my, when I first came home, I didn't do nothing for a year. I gave my kids a straight year. You know what I'm saying? Then I said I dropped my album April 21st of 2021. From that point, I start rapping and doing videos, bro, I only been messing around since April. You know what I'm talking about? And I been doing some shit, you know what I'm saying? But with that being said, I'm just looking at it like, bro, this shit just don't make no sense how someone can tell you that your time, it's time for you to stop, man, you know? Can't nobody tell me. You're about to tell me about something that happened the way you... Oh yeah, yeah, damn, thank you. That's why I lost it. Look, all right, say I stopped working, bro. I've been working, I dropped this shit, steady dropping shit, bro. Getting on people radar. Why somebody call me last Wednesday like, Looch, bro, you're on our radar, bro. We got this West Coast Ice Cube tour. Are you alive? Can you make it to Kentucky in one night? You know what I mean? We're gonna send you money. Everything wants you to open up. It's Bone Thugs, Ice Cube, and Cypress Hill. You know what I'm saying? 8,000 people arena. You're wild. That's love. Hell yeah, I'm on my way, you know what I'm saying? But if I'm an old ass rapper, not trying to work, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna say nah, bro, I ain't trying to do that. Why would I stop, bro? So what I did was I went and did that. Bam, look what that did. That opened up a door. I got the rockin' front of 7,600 people. I gained new fans, and as well, they booked me for extra four to five shows. You know what I'm saying? Witch, I get a 25 minute set. Witch, now I have a budget. Witch, now when I go back out, I'm taking the artist with me. Wow, beautiful. But if I'm not out there rapping, I can't put people in position. You know what I mean? I can't start a label and push people if I don't have finances to invest inside of them. That's true. So it's the same way as that nine to five that I'm working. I'm still working the nine to five. I just switched it from working to them for working for me. But all the paper that I'm making this, I take back and I invest right back into it. Could have been about change. Could have been do these type of things. But no, I'm investing right back into it. Investing right back into the other artists, you know what I mean? Cause I have a vision, you know? And it's a lot of people out there, I'm not, and I got a team. I'm not just alone. Like my bro Stackmo with me right now, my brother Jeff, you know, Dotsky, like we working and we invest into these artists, bro. You know what I mean? With nothing to look back except for helping the city get on. But if I'm not in the field with them, how can I help them? You know what I mean? They ain't trying to follow. Yeah, they ain't trying to listen to old ass niggas that ain't out here trying to help with them. And I heard them say, you're not supposed to fuck with both. You know what I mean? It was like chief said, fuck them all. You know what I'm saying? That's what he said. Chief say, fuck them all. You know what I'm saying? And shout out to Rainwater. I never say nothing bad about Rainwater. I'm gonna tell you why. But chief didn't fuck with neither one of them. He didn't fuck with neither one of them when they was in there anyway. So why would he try to fuck with them now? Cause he didn't fuck with them then. So it's different. Like a lot of people don't know they messing with these niggas off of music. I met Yella when he was 10 years old, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yella father passed away. When Yella father passed, his mama called. This one I had in my life, Blue City out. She called the phone on the CD saying, hey, look, my son just lost his father, him and his brother, they sat over here. You one of his favorite artists, you know what I mean? Can you come by here and meet my son? This one they stay right on Oats in Mesquite. Yeah, I said, yeah, I'll come by there. But see, at this time I'm young, I'm high-headed, I'm not really knowing what it mean. So I stand them up. I don't go. Man, she call me back and get on my ass, blue. You know what I'm saying? Next day she call me back like, you got me fucked up nigga, you know what I'm saying? My son, you gonna do my son like this, blah, blah, blah. Man, I went straight over there. That's when I met Yellow. So from Yellow being 10 years old to, I got him, I went and picked him and his little brother up and then I picked him up. I took him to the studio. That's when Crystal Blue had a studio over on 30. But at 10, was he doing music yet? No, but he wanted to do music. So I took him to the studio, let him see us record right around in the van with us in different type of stuff. And from that moment, me and him had a relationship. And that growl until where it's at right now. Now, let's fast forward down the line. I meet mode three 10 years later, 10, 11 years later. You know what I mean? So it's already a completely different type of relationship. Type of relationship, you know what I'm saying? So all I'm saying is this, and this is another thing, bro, like all I'm saying is this, bro, I did, just like I'm speaking freely with you, I'm speaking freely with y'all. Y'all know mode three fam, you know what I'm saying? Y'all saw when bro say, ain't nobody try to help with a straight face. Correct. Nobody tried to help. No questions asked. Bro, how can you say? But I told him pretty much that you may have helped and he wasn't even around cause you had your own relationship with him. Take me out of it. Take me out of it. Say I didn't try to help. You can't tell me that nobody else in the city tried to help. I can name 10 people myself right now that I know for a fact that try to intervene on that situation. You know what I'm saying? To dead them boys from DJ Wild here, to like you say hit that, to baby, to my partner worm, free my bro worm, it's locked up. You know what I'm saying? So, and this is another thing, bro. I did my interview. And Sean Cotton, he told me that. Sean Cotton, all right? I did my interview. You know what I'm saying? Jay Prince. Jay Prince, he say Jay Prince. So I did my interview, right? I did my interview with real life. You know, when I first came home and I said on there, man, I called one of them. I said, I tried it when I came home, I called them both. I talked to one of them and said this. I talked to the other one and said this. You know what I mean? We, and I told him, bro. And on this video, I said, I told him, you know, I fuck with both of y'all. Just like I did. We know mode three. If I did not call mode three and say that shit, and he saw that interview, that nigga gonna get on that motherfucking, first he gonna go live. Oh, that nigga. Bitch, that nigga, you know you ain't call me to motherfucking try to squash those shit. Matter of fact, nigga, I'm finna go in on you. And then he gonna drop a record on me. Cause he not finna let a nigga play with his name. So if these kind of, and that wasn't the only interview I did speaking on that, bro, you know what I'm saying? So with that being said, bro, if people thought, and niggas, they didn't even ask the court. He didn't even understand the question, big D ads. Big D ads, would you be open if these guys called and asked you? Well, if they'll be called and asked you to do a feature, would you be open to do a feature with him? He kept that clip. But at the rest of the clip, if you listen to pass that, where I said, yeah, I do it. But then I said, but at the end of the day, a song is just a song. Like I would tell him, what are we gonna do about the city though? Yeah. He didn't put that part off in there. He just cut it where I said, yeah. So Big D sabotaged the footage? No, he sabotaged the footage. He dropped the whole thing eventually. But he just clipped it. But he clipped it. You know what I mean? You know a clip, babe. That's why I'm not tripping on the interviews because I know where I stand for and where I come from. You could twist it however you want, but the truth is gonna be the truth regardless. But if people interested in the truth, they should go watch the full interview and see everything. People, attention spans, not that. They don't wanna see the truth. Thank you. God, I'm sick of these niggas in my comments. Quick, get in my comments. You heard what Lou Diamond said. You niggas know you ain't gonna watch for two hours just for the hell of it, so stop playing niggas. They don't. You know what I mean? They don't. Thank you Lou. These niggas is in my comments. Uh-uh. I'm just saying that. I wish I could see one of you niggas in my comments. That's just what it is, man. But you're telling the truth. People don't watch like that. I try to tell other people that've been on my platform that when I first started, but nobody wanted to hear it. Everybody was like, whatever, dude. That's why I own them. My name Tata Al, nigga running and talking. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But no, I think, I think what happened as I always say to everybody when they're sitting in these seats, no healing. Everybody's just running, running, running. But there's no healing. There's no conversations while we open up about these things. You know what I mean? It's all the time we're just basically we're on our mission. We got family. We got kids. You know, what'd you call that PTSD? Yeah. That right there is sitting in because you ain't gonna talk to nobody because you're running around doing everything you can to keep busy so you don't have to think about it with you just pacifying the situation because it ain't going nowhere. It's just laying dormant. You know what I mean? Yeah. So even when I talk to Rain, I always tell him the whole time after Mow 3 Pass, you still running, running, running, trying to figure things out, running, no rest. You know, don't I tell them that everybody, you come home, boom, you running, running, running, trying to take care of your boys, trying to- I rest it, though. Yeah, but you still, you working, you going to work, you doing your thing. But I know how it is to come home before Christmas and you know you can't go out because how would it look for me celebrating? My kids don't have nothing for Christmas or Thanksgiving, you know what I'm saying? So there's a place where you can't even think straight. You know what I'm saying? It's a perplexed place to be. Even though you might be home, for me, my mindset was I got to get my stuff together. I let my family down. You know what I'm saying? I shouldn't even been in here. I'm smarter than all these niggas. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Being real. So just coming home and just dealing with life, it's impactful to be locked up for four or five years and then come back and just, I'm going to get this done. You know what I'm saying? It's doable, but God, all things are possible. You know what I'm saying? But it's going to be challenges. This boss talk 101, baby. Yeah, I didn't know. Now you guys got to be strong. We brothers, man. But yeah, strong and growth. You know what I mean? And a lot of the stuff that like with my bro Rain, bro Rain is real good at what he do, man. Definitely. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I never say nothing bad about Rain. You know what I mean? I think he's misunderstanding what I got going on and it's understandable because everybody's not supposed to see your vision, understand what you got going on. So I accept that. That's right. The situation where I am is that y'all to also keep in mind I am an older person. So bro got a couple of years. He got some years on me in the music industry on what he knows, but he has some years in growing and understanding on this side. You know what I'm saying? As far as what it's going to actually take to help heal the city. You know what I mean? As far as being a person that can go on all sides. You know what I mean? Because as of right now, I can go on all sides, bro. And if people really felt like I was fucking choosing sides or doing something like that or picking one person over another, bro, I wouldn't be able to go out there and then cliff and fuck with them boys or out there at what was it, you know, these other people, if they feel like I'm wrong with the other side or if they see me even like, if I did that interview last we got there something with Chris Cole. You know what I mean? I heard about that. I didn't watch my brother, he called me, he said, man, he said, Mr. Lucia stand up guy, he decided to get off or something. Oh yeah, nah, I ain't from the play out there. They started talking to me, like I say, Sean G called on there, but I was saying if Sean G, like, that's mode three right here, you know what I'm saying? Sean G wouldn't have called me and said, bro, appreciate you keeping my little bro name alive while you're out there. If you felt like I was on some fuck shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? See, when you move, it's the energy that you move with, bro. You know what I mean? I gotta say nothing. It's the energy that you move with. And when people know your energy is right, bro, you can walk anywhere, you know? But yeah, man, they got, I got on there, man, man. So let's go talk about some shit, man. That's my boy though, man. That's my boy. But they got on there and started telling me it's a suck dick and shit. Really? You know what? Hey, y'all too real for me. I'ma get a fuck this, you know what I'm saying? Wow. That's like the, he always tell me he like the overnight rod though. He go in at night. For real. Hey, but look, this one thing about rain. I don't wanna say this about rain. Well, I say I never say nothing about rain, bro. Rain did something. Rain saved me from crashing, you know what I mean? Like not too long ago, you know what I mean? So some shit happened. Motherfucker said some shit about me, right? You know what I mean? I seen the interview, I seen some shit. Motherfucker said some shit about me. Rain me hot. You know what I mean? Rain me hot. I call rain. I'm like rain, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm saying, man, you know what? Fuck that shit, bro. I'm finna respond. I send him the video. I say, I'm finna go and post this, bro. Rain get the video. Rain call me back. Rain say, say, bro, you write on everything you saying. He say, but look, Lou, you the only good thing we got right now in the city, fool. And if you go in there and crash and get on that board shit, bro, the city gonna fall, you know what I'm saying? Cause you the only one trying to keep positive, bro. And I thought about that shit, bro. I erased the video, didn't do it. So the same words, he told me about the mother artist, you know what I'm saying? And I'm, like I say, I'm growing. I'm using that same shit on him. You know what I'm saying? Cause it's not worked it, bro. You know what I mean? Because Rain got my number, bro. And I respect Rain highly on what he does. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what else he be into, but I ain't finna turn nobody in our city down, bro. You know what I mean? And all I can do is, like I told you, I'm gonna be doing interviews. I'm gonna be doing that. I'll just be working. If you see me, I'm working, bro. I ain't finna let my words talk. I'm finna let my actions show. Judge a man out by his words, but by his actions. So I'm just finna keep working. Y'all say whatever y'all wanna say about me, but I'm finna keep working. Until a nigga get out here and out work me, out rap me. You know what I'm saying? Out fuck with the city more than me. Don't say nothing to me. You know what I'm saying? I agree. I agree with you. So how can, how can, you talk about healing the city. How can we heal the city? Well, first off, you know what I mean? As far as- And can it be healed? Yeah, anything can be healed. Everything can be healed. You know what I'm saying? As long as it's gotten involved in it, everything can be healed. But it just gotta be everybody on the same page type healing. And like I talked a while back, when I say heal, all right, everybody's not finna be friends. We can get that out our head. Everybody's not finna be friends. But the city, it is a way that the city can come together, bro. Where everybody is involved and we push as a whole, like, like I say with those, with those big and dollar companies, bro, they got VP, CEOs, managers, A&Rs that hate each other, but they all show up at work and get the bigger picture done. And they don't even talk to each other. They leave, and I can't stand that fucking mic, but they get back the next day and they go to work. We have to get it to the system where we had a machine, where we run it like that, bro. Because emotions, bro, think about emotions, bro, they can go left or right, bro. And sometimes your mind can fuck with your emotions. It can make you pick the wrong one. When you're feeling like it's right, you know, but you're really wrong. So you're making a bad decision, but when you're doing the business, you can't go after them emotions. We're going out. Logist, you're a business man. You know how it runs. So as long as we get the machine running, bro, it will forever run, you know? Now, as far as on the healing, on the beef end, on the depths and stuff like that, you can't tell, I can't give nobody an expiration date on how long they need them on. That hasn't come with them. Glad you said that. When you look at just, there's been a bunch of them. From old three to young, Dolph, PNB, Rock, is that the name? Yeah. You know, just a bunch of them. Ducky P. Ducky P, you know what I mean? They, it's a bunch of them. I can keep going. You know what I mean? Being a rapper, you know, because we have something coming that says, it's the most dangerous job on earth right now because of the people dying like they're dying. What, how do you feel about- I don't believe that. You can answer that part, you can challenge that part, but also let me know how you feel, how you move with the way you see things, you know, the way they're laying out right now. Yeah. Bro, it's only dangerous when you put yourself in danger, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's just like saying, God damn dangerous. Dallas is a dangerous city. They got all these murders, but you go to Holland Park, nigga, you ain't seeing no murders, you know what I'm saying? But if you go put yourself in the middle of the trap spot, the crack spot, everything gets, yeah, it is fucking problems. And what I mean by that is these artists, when you are speaking this shit into existence, y'all are asking for beef. A lot of the artists right now, they asking for beef, they dissing the ops, they won a war, all the music, like you say is drip music or whatever. So it's sending the message like, nigga, when I see you, it's on. So when you see me, it's on. So when you move with that energy, bro, of course nigga's gonna test you, bro. Niggas get a rush just out of testing nigga who think he the hardest. You know what I mean? It don't matter, bro. Sorry if you flossing. Yeah, if you flossing. You know what I mean? If you flossing, if you see, see, look, bro. Man, you remember back in the day, you remember when niggas used to be become my capping, high capping and shit like that? You know what I mean? That was actually a negative. Like nigga, like man, oh, capping ass nigga. I don't fuck with them niggas at bragging all that type of shit. That it over time it reversed. Once baby them kicked in with bling, that capping switched and it reversed like stunt. So, bro, people got a lot of shit going on, bro. You see how it is economy fucked up, bro. So of course, bro, you shitting on niggas, bro. You wanna make a nigga feel like shit, bro. You bring that onto yourself. You know what I mean? You don't have to, some people literally go out and dress up with attention. I heard bitches dress up. I heard female telling me, oh, I just, I just wanna go kill these hoes and make them sick. You know what I'm saying? And niggas be the same way. It's like they wanna put that energy on them. And shit, sometimes put that energy on them, bro. And it comes back. I just feel like, bro, honestly, bro, all the rappers man, the niggas ready to kill something. And that's what they, that's what they rapping about. That's what they want when we speak to resistance. They, the guy that was in, you can't, you can't tell me that YFN Lu Che, that was his song, he sung with him. That was the biggest song he had, I believe. But who? PnB, Rob, that one, he had YFN Lu Che. Every day I'm lit. Every day I'm lit. I don't know. You wasn't out, you wasn't out back then. Well, I think PnB like, no, I don't know, even if I was out and listened to music like that. No, you wasn't out, but it went on. PnB Rap star, he not a gangster rapper though. No. So you know what I'm saying? But he was sitting in the rock store, where we go, we just was out. Yeah, we go to, that same spot all the time. And it was so crazy because when, the last time we went, the waitress, she was like, and we weren't wearing no big jewelry or no nothing like that. But she's like, you know, you gotta be careful out here in the streets because people would be robbing. They'll run up, she said in that same place, same Roscoe, they ran up in there and jack some guys in there and took their jewelry and money and ran out. And they do that not only there, but other places in LA. So you just gotta be careful. You can't go up, come out here and be flossing and doing all that stuff. So I don't know if some rappers or some people just feel like I'm untouchable. Like I can wear whatever, do whatever. And dropping locations, the girls dropping locations. All the niggas come in and he live, man. Don't do that. I don't let them do that. I'm for the stuff, put a sign up. Don't go live in my store, man. Yeah. I don't even need you going live, man. I don't want you people to know you're here until you leave. Get on with me with that. You don't know, you might have a tail on you, nigga. I don't know. So you don't know what other people are into. You know what I mean? That's right. People are around you. What'd be wrong with people, man? You just out here doing stuff and then come over here. It's like, you gotta be careful, man, on how you move, man. You so right, you know what I'm saying? It's crazy. In a day and age of social media where people are followed, people are watching your every move. Yeah, and also some people like to go viral, bro. You know what I mean? You could just be a, sometimes you ain't gotta be looking for none. Some people just wanna go viral just by to say, hey, I punched, I punched, I punched. I was the one that got to slap this dude. Y'all see me? I got to slap this dude. You know what I'm saying? And they just wanna have a friend record him, you know? Like you see the little kids, they be trying to do the pranks. Like when the dudes come out and they be like, hey, bro, I'm the chain snatcher. You know, I'm the original chain snatcher. You know, all that, you know, them pranks like, and people like, man, and then somebody kill them and then it's like, aw man, they wrong for killing them. Nah, these kids, man, these people getting out of hand with the social media still can't be walking up on people, you know, expecting everybody to laugh and shit cause it's still, this was a lot of people lose sight, bro. There's still a fucking underworld. There's still people struggling. There's still poverty. There's really a ghetto. I don't care. You know, and a lot of these people grow up in these suburbs and these different type of things in these different areas and they don't ever experience that, but that shit is real. And the economy is fucked up. People are not working, you know what I mean? They got them PPP loans and everybody just plowed, you know what I'm saying? So now it's like, man, my fuckers want money, bro. But it's not even just that. You talk about the pranks, you know, I don't really laugh when I watch those videos where they walk up to somebody and slap somebody, whatever, cause the first thing I thought, I was like, no, that has to be planned because there ain't no way you're not gonna fight. Somebody come to me and slap me and I'm just gonna be, no, we gonna fight. But the thing is that you don't know, even if the person looked like it could be a CEO and like, oh, he not gonna fight. You don't know, his wife could have just left him. You don't know what could have, his child could have just passed away. You don't know what other people are going through. You don't even have to come from the ghetto. You don't have to be poor. You don't have to be any of that. We're all human beings. We go through things on a daily basis and you don't know what that person is going through mentally and where they're at and you do something to that person. Wow. So how, I'm gonna ask you this for these rappers cause they wanna rap, what he knew was gonna rap and I'm gonna let you go after this, but. How did he, I mean, when you put out a project now that you've been home well, how many visuals do you think you should do with these projects? Cause you was getting down when you did your project. There's many. I put out four videos in the last two weeks. Wow. You know what I'm saying? You gotta put out, I think, I think. Can it be too much? Like he said, you can never have too much content. That's right. You know what I mean? They gonna catch up eventually, keep dropping. I'm gonna tell you who did it and they, Toby, the world, you know. I love Toby. All right, Toby, one of the hardest artists ever. You know what I mean? But like him, I think he dropped a video every week for like a year or something like that. You know what I mean? He helped out a little bit, didn't he? But once it caught fire, they had so much content to backtrack on. As you go back, boss talk one-on-one, go check it out, watch for that whole lit, everybody hitting that whole all night long nigga. Cause it comes to the work. When you came here, they still gotta go back and watch that now. You keep working, you know what I mean? For real, they do that work, bro. That's how, that's how, yeah. So, yeah. I'm telling you how this man worked, working on all. But you said, earlier you said you have a vision, but you never told us what your vision was. As far as with the city, or my vision or what I got going on. What you got going on, what you said? You know, like I would listen to you talk about skits and stuff like that, you know what I mean? And that's real hard, you know what I mean? I got a series that I've been doing, you know what I mean? Depending on what time I might show you episode or I just catch another time and show you some of the episodes. So they're already recorded, you're already done with the series? Not all of them, but I have shot some. You know what I mean? Okay. October 1st through October 7th, we gonna start shooting the next four episodes. We got some, then we gonna knock out these four and then I'm trying to have it to where before I release anything, the whole season is done. You know what I mean? What is this and where do you intend to drop it? And what is this in eight of and all of that? Well, it's more of a, it's a power type series. It's an actual, it's an actual series, you know? Really? Yeah, it's a series, man. It's live. And what I did is I- Sex scenes and all? Every, it's gonna be everything. I did it, that's when we did that big cast and call it real life, you know? And we brought a lot of people and a lot of people showed up. So some of the people we got- Oh, that's cool. We're shooting it. We're shooting it, me and Vic. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And editing and everything? Yes, ma'am. Okay. You know what I mean? And it's getting real live. Boydowski G is part of it too. So what we're doing is also we're involving a lot of different artists. It's gonna be a lot of different cameos. You're gonna see different artists and they're acting in different things like that. So what I'm trying to do is also show artists another side. I'm trying to promote on another side, you know? Getting them seen on a visual side to where people see them and they might fall in love with them as a character on a show and not even know they do music. Showing different atmospheres for people to make, you know, to make, to make ends, you know? And as well as with that, with the books and different type of things like that that I'm over here working with, you know? But where are you gonna drop it? Where I'm gonna drop it? Where are you gonna put all this content out? Well, right now, we're working. When I have it finished, if who we're talking to doesn't do what it do, I'm gonna drop it on YouTube. I'm not tripping. You know what I'm saying? You're talking to somebody trying to get them to... Yeah, I'm trying to get it where we can get it. But I gotta have more of the Western names. I wanna show them, I only showed them one of the episodes. I showed them to pilot, you know what I mean? So I'm trying to get it to where we can get it on a 2B or Hulu or Amazon Prime, some shit like that. But if I can't, what I'm finna do is, first season, I'm gonna drop on the YouTube. I'm still gonna do a premiere and all that type of stuff right here, but I'm gonna drop it on the YouTube. And it's gonna do what it's supposed to do. So when second season come, you know, trust me. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna be live. It's gonna be so much. You know what I'm saying? The thing about them numbers, I told you that my boy and them getting on YouTube. Yeah, I know what I'm saying. Yeah, so it ain't nothing wrong dropping on YouTube if you're gonna be consistently working in that channel like that. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? As long as you're gonna be consistent, you are the deal. Yeah. But you gotta be putting that, but you know what I just thought about? What did you think about? But even with the series, cause just like TV shows, it comes out once a week, comes out like, but no, like stars, like 50 Cent shows, you know? It comes out like every Sunday, whatever. When you think about YouTube, yes, you watching, if it comes out once a week, yeah, you getting viewers, but you're not getting as many viewers as if you were dropping it every single day. And most series or most shows, they're not dropping them every single day. See, I'm thinking about it. I'm not, I could do the every single day, but I might pop it out like how I do when, when I do the, I'm thinking about doing it like they do it when they do theirs. Drop, fuck, I'm teasing them. I'm gonna just drop and give it to them all in one day. Y'all can watch all TV and episodes, Ben's watching it the first day and you got the first season. But you gotta pay for it. Shit, it's gonna be on, I might put it on the subscription part, you know what I mean? I might put on the subscription part, but the main focus on this first season is getting it seen, you know what I mean? Getting it seen and getting it pushed. I agree with that 100%. So what was that show that we used to watch on YouTube before Jay-Z bought it? Money and volumes, I never knew about it. Did you watch it? We loved it and I hate it when Jay-Z bought it because I thought he was gonna do something with it, but he shelved it. That's what I'm about to say. He never came back and it was so good. It wasn't just him though. Them boys didn't wanna work together either. That 10 million made all of them get into it. That money, I hear everybody trying to figure out, where am I? But you see, when I think about that in country way, and I'm like, yeah, you got that money, but then if you had stayed on YouTube and kept pushing it away, how you should have been pushing and coming out with new content, you could have made that money all years, and you could have done, made that money by now, and y'all be good, but the bad part about working with other people, especially if the ownership of it belongs to more than one person, you're gonna have people falling out. You all understand what I mean, people? But that's life though. That's why, even in shows, that's why you always see somebody die. Usually because somebody gets too big headed and is like, you know what, let me go ahead and kill you off in the series and bring somebody else in. Killin' people off there again. Bring him back after he did too, and let him come back when they did. He actin' right now, so he can come back. His ghost come back and you're like, damn, he back. For real. Well, some people need to be humble. I just thank God that you thinkin' outside the box, man. I'm proud of what you've done, man. We gonna get you back on there again. We wasn't ready. We tried to be ready, but we wasn't. Well, we can get back in here. Me and even Chief talked about it, man. I got a link back. How is Mr. Poogie doin', man? Is he rappin' anymore? Yeah, Poogie, actually, he's invested more in his son. You know what I mean? He still can rap, you know? Poogie'll never be able to stop rapping. You know what I mean? He still can rap, but he's invested more in his son, Lil' Crook. Y'all go check out Lil' Crook, so. He rappin'? Yeah, Lil' Crook hard. That's good. He hard, hard. You know what I'm sayin'? He hard, hard. Yeah, my son rap, you know? J.G. Seiso, Lil' Seiso, he's on my album. He was on my last album. Yeah, he was. I remember. How old is he? He's 17 now, you know? But with him, it's like, be honest, this shit's crazy, and I know I can pop him as an artist, and I'm gonna pop him as an artist, but right now, he likes to modeling. He's acting in the movie, and right now, he likes to close, so we work on his clothing line project, Motion. So, right now, that's what we on with him, because I don't want all of my little man to file a victim on that, you know what I'm sayin'? I'd rather him do all this other stuff, and when he wanna rap, he can rap, because when he tell me he ready, he ready, you know, he be sayin' he ready right now, but I want him to finish school. Don't do like I did, because I stopped school, you know what I mean? Finish school, he already workin', saving his own money. He got his L.L.C. for his t-shirt. Show him the business side of it, that's good. Yeah, let him get that goin', because like I told him, are you in school, you know? Anyways, let him get that goin'. And acting, you can make that money, you can make a lot of money in acting, too. Yep. Yeah, a lot of money in acting. Any kind of way you wanna do it. You don't have to go about tradition no more. That's how I be trippin' off of you, you know? And that's the way the game is now. You can't get the door open, you know? It locked in. I mean, you heard. You know, right the wrong way. Who was that? They was tellin' me about it, you know, like, how they're doin' it. I think they was talkin' about it yesterday on that YouTube series I was watchin' with Jordan Neal. How you could basically, how they get in a network deal, but only excluding the fact of not messin' with their YouTube and Facebook stuff they got goin'. They want them, but they respect them for the money they makin' off of their social media platform. You can't touch that money. You can't even. That's my money. And they comin' to them with bigger deals. The one who are known actors is doin' that, because they know the money is lucrative over there. But you have time and knowledge. That's what I mean. It's helping them. That's the knowledge. It's helping. So, man, thank you for comin' on the show, man. Is anything, how can people get a hold of you? You gotta say that. Ah, y'all already know. Y'all can always follow me on Mr. Luchy Dallas on all platforms, you know what I mean? Shit, if you in the city, you can come find me at the dive on 75, every Thursday and Saturday. Dive on 75? You know what I mean? Or if you want, you can pull up at the Rockstar Building, man. You'll see me up at the Rockstar Building. And where they can purchase that? They can purchase that in any liquor stores, if y'all want to go to one of my special ones, my partner, Brock, the only first black on liquor store in downtown Dallas, man. Speak Easy Wine and Spirits, man. Shout out to Rockstar Brody and Ms. Tracy. You know, you can get it there, but you can get it in all the specs and true wines and stuff like that. Or you can order it online. You can go to rockstar.com and order it online, too. We deliverin' worldwide, you know? That's the shit. Man, did you get everything out of it? You don't wanna find out about where you're here with the dead body? I didn't find out about the dead body. Now, but look, I would wanna say this, though. You know, without city, you know, there's so much stuff goin' on, you know what I mean? I just want everybody to, man, take a second and just look at yourself, bro. And forget what everybody else have goin' on. Actually, take a moment, sit with yourself and think about what your purpose is. Because in order for this puzzle to be put together, you gotta put your piece. Ain't nobody else shaped like your piece. They not gonna understand your curves and your edges. You do, though, you know what you made for. So don't fall off on what somebody else's sayin' or don't follow the trend, because you are the trend, you create the trend. And even if you're, like I say, may just be one piece to a 5,000-piece puzzle, but you gotta play that part, you know what I mean? So just play your part and don't worry about what nobody else's sayin', you know what I'm sayin'? And that's what I'm gonna do for real. Thank you so much, man. Lou Diamond, hey, man, he done blessed the platform once again, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, what a boss is talk, man. And we are.