 I know that Dan and I, you know, Dan has deep mother wounds. I have deep father wounds. What steps can we do through this? Behold, how will it help us deal with that? You know, how can those of us who have those kind of wounds find out? Yeah, I think, you know, I think all of us do. Like we said, you know, our parents and like we said, this is just being honest of the places where they just couldn't be everything to us at all times. And, and sometimes it was a lot more grievous than that. But even in that, and those things, they reflect our heart, they reflect in our hearts as the catechism says that our mother and our father are the first examples of God to us. And so many times we, we adapt to a vision of God that comes through parents when they're not perfect and just life. And maybe it's, you know, other things, other things happening in our families. And I think just being honest about those things and allowing the emotions to come to the surface. And like you said, Stephanie, really beautiful. That was a belief that you held about yourself. And it wasn't until you're in a safe enough place to that, for that belief to come to the surface where then you could bring it to the Lord and you find that he didn't mock you. He didn't shame you. He didn't say, what's wrong with you? He just received that tender belief that you have about yourself and then he revealed the truth to you. And this is really all the Lord is asking of us to do is he's bringing us, wants to bring us to a safe place because it's security that allows these things to come to the surface. And then as we allow this to come to the altar of our hearts, the Lord meets us with the truth. And, you know, we can honor our mother and father and the people in our life and our spouses and family. We can honor them as we're supposed to. We're supposed to honor the people in our life and we can also be honest as well. Just like that's what happens when you go to confession. We bring ourselves as a beloved son or beloved daughter. And we're also honest in the places where our love has been ruptured and where we've hurt people, where we've hurt God, we've hurt ourselves. And so I think the journey of honesty, which is the journey of humility, we're just living in reality, just living in the truth of like, Lord, this happened to me. You know, this is something I'm experiencing. Can you please reveal to me what I'm believing about myself? Cause those are many times the most powerful triggers of what I'm believing myself about myself in a certain situation. And then Lord, what is the truth? Because that's really the sticking points in our life of, you know, every wound has a message. And so it's like porcupine quills. You know, it's like the porcupine quills and they have a barb on the end and the barb is the message also. So it's going to get stuck in there. And so the Lord would like to speak the truth to us because I know for me in just areas of just major trauma in my own life, one of the many things I've learned along the way is that the people that hurt me are just people and they're not monsters and they're broken like me. And like you said so beautifully, hurt people, hurt people. And it's not excusing sin. It's not excusing the need for justice to be restored. All that will be taken care of. But really at the end what you see there's their people too that are loved by God. And as the catechism says that when the Holy Spirit purifies our hearts, it turns the pain into intercession. And that is something that enemy can't touch that the humility, the love, the obedience, the truth. Like that's the powerful force of transformation and that's the life of Christ. And that's what he's bringing to birth in us. You know, what's so incredibly powerful when you talk about the, when the Lord brings us to that place and heals us and we can then lean into the power of intercession is one of the prayers that we use is, Lord, as I forgive this person, which takes so much courage. It takes incredible courage to even go there. To even admit the things that have happened or that we've done or been done to us or whatever. That as we do that and we allow the Lord to heal us, then we can ask Him to turn all curses into blessings, to restore them a hundredfold. And then when we set them free, we're free. And the Lord can then move. Then we're not withholding the grace that He wants to perhaps move through us through that prayer to that other person and to be able to genuinely ask for somebody who's hurt us to be healed, for them to be restored, to be saved, to be sanctified, for them to become great saints is an extraordinary gift and it is possible, but it does take some careful walking through with souls that'll help us, help through those places because it's sacred ground and it just has to be navigated so carefully. That's true. And it takes time and that's okay. It's a process and it's okay that it does and it's true. I'm sorry, Dan, what are we gonna say? No, I just, my heart aches for everyone listening because I know what it feels like because I'm even in this place in my own life because I came out of a background of abuse. I came out of an environment where there are a bunch of caskets of siblings and niece and from drug abuse and from neglect and all of that, that no matter where you are and no matter what the junk is, it's back to what you said earlier, the pathway to God is through in and through those things and that, like, I know that I have healing ahead of me. I don't know that I understand it completely but there is something brewing in me that's been there for a while and stuff I just know that once I face it, wow, is it gonna be difficult, you know? But I also know enough, because I've been through it enough, that on the other side is a deeper kind of love that I never thought I could know, a deeper kind of joy that I never thought I could know, a deeper kind of self-giving, a deeper kind of peace. And I just want this, in this webinar, I want everyone listening and listening to Sister Miriam and to Stephanie, I think I pray to God, you hear in us that there's freedom on the other side of that pain but God is calling you to face it, to move into it, to find Him there, to allow Him to heal you and then you will become a force for healing in the world. You will become a deeper, more authentic disciple of His. You will be changed and the world will change around you. You know, even more than that, our daughter, she's so inspired me when she said this, but as she was getting ready to prepare for marriage, she, something came up, you know, something came up in her and we know that when that anxiety starts to rise, it's this information that something needs to be healed and brought forth. And I was so inspired by her in her words and she said, Mom, I have a responsibility to my future husband and to whoever the Lord entrusts me with to go receive healing and the responsibility to them, not just to yourself, but to them. And I think that's the other thing is that the Lord has created, you know, every person is unrepeatable, they're beautiful, they have this particular mission that only they can complete, you know, whatever that is. And I just, you know, I ache for those who are struggling, I want them to step into what the Lord is asking of them to come to that healing because the Lord needs them. Healed people, we need to walk with one another and help others to find their healing. And we need healed priests, we need healed sisters. I know that you do a lot of work in that area because I think it's interesting to talk about mother wounds and father wounds. And I think we all have a collective mother wound. We have a collective father wound and it shows up in so many ways even in our holy mother church and we just need to encourage one another to seek, we have a responsibility to ourselves, to those in our immediate family, but to the extended holy mother church because those graces, our sin is never isolated, our brokenness is never isolated and we need to allow that to happen so that the Lord's grace can just flow freely. That is so true. And, you know, like Mother Teresa said, you know, we forgot we belong to each other. And we profoundly affect each other and there is no such thing as a private sin but there's no such thing as a private grace either. And I think that's one of the things we will be shocked at is when we see God face to face, we enter into heaven, how tightly interwoven we all were and we all are that we don't even realize it. And I think, I love what you're saying, they're both of you. And I think that the truth is that we don't go into these places alone and that Jesus is the one who's inviting us. And like you said down so beautifully, like you can tell the Holy Spirit's bringing something to the surface of your heart. And that's all we need to do is go to the Holy Spirit and just ask like, Holy Spirit, what are you doing? Like what's happening in my heart? And the Lord goes with us. And trauma therapists say that for all of us have these wounds filled with pain but almost surrounding every single wound we have usually is a secondary wound of having nobody safe to tell it to. So by the time since we were little even till now we have these wounds that are surrounded in these areas of isolation and fragmentation. And when we can in safety and on communion bring that to the Lord and to people who love us, people who are going to be with us who will not leave us, who will not forsake us who see God in us and who know us. Then that gives us safety. That's the covenant that gives us safety for everything to come out. And it's so much more than just managing. We're not here to manage our wounds. Christianity is not sin management. It's God forbid, if Christianity is sin management we are the most pitiful of all people. But you're pretty boring religion. It is, but Christianity is a complete transformation unto glory. So I think really like question is I was at it I'm a recovering addict and many years ago I was at a meeting and this woman who's having a hard time staying sober just came to the meeting one day and she just came in all these various conditions and we're never really sure what she was gonna show up as and she came to the meeting one day and she had a huge epiphany and she said, you know what? She's like, I realize I've been doing this sobriety thing all wrong. She's like, up until this point I've been asking myself, what is the bare minimum I need to do to stay sober? And she's like, I realized the question I need to ask is not that but how free do I wanna be? Right. How free do I wanna be? And as us as Christians, there's no limit to that. There's no limit to how free we can be in the Lord. There's no limit because he is infinite and because in his heart is infinite and he wants to draw us into the depths of his heart into the depths of freedom and then to liberating others as long as we're in this earth and of course even afterwards to advance his kingdom. So I will.