 Welcome to Toffy TV, we are here to discuss the player ratings from the season to see if we can gather some information to find out who is the player of the year according to my player ratings. Big thanks to Mark Zobel who put all the player ratings together for us so we didn't have to, simple as that really. This video is sponsored by One Football, One Football makes it easier to find all the latest scores, stats and news in one place to download the One Football app, click the link in the description. We are going to be doing our look backs from the season reviews very very shortly, break everything down but this one is quite easy to get into and it will be interesting to see but before we start we are going to see the season preview with me, you and Sarah and some interesting things to talk about. When asked where we'd finished this season, Baz you said 7th, you said I think we've got the squad to finish 7th but if we finish 8th again and win a league cup, I think that would be a brilliant season so not too far off the pace from the league cup. Sarah was quite optimistic if we win a league cup wasn't she, giving her a history in it. Sarah basically nailed it. She said I think the realistic aim has to be the best of the rest, I'd be happy with 8th again if I saw a visible improvement. Instead of seeing 11 random fellas on the page and it's awful to watch, if we can see there's a tangible progress and we've actually got a system now that is what a Michael Silver Everton side is going to deliver week in and week out, then we need a few more transfer windows. This is something that's going to take time, I'm not going to say a cup run but let's win a trophy, let's get that done so we can tell all of them to do one. So essentially Sarah said what I said, 8th and a trophy. Well yeah, but she said she wants to see tangible improvement which I think we've seen. And I said you can get them on the train of pitch between games, I think set pieces are going to be a big thing this season. I think we're going to see a lot more set piece routines, defending, laying in the basics of defending, it's a season of transition and we get that. That brings its own issues, fans have to realise that it will be up and down but we want progress. The only way we're going to get that is if we're seeing the team develop. I'll just throw this one in at yeah, that's what it says at yeah. And then I go on to ask you who would be the top goalscorer this season. So I wish I'd listened to my own advice a little bit from the up and downs. So Baz, you said top goalscorer would be? I didn't, I wish I did. I said Shank Towson because I thought, I thought having seen how he finished the season with 5 goals and 12 games, I thought in a team that will have more creativity he will score more goals, he finished with 3. So no in here at top scorer. So that was a bit grim. Sarah agreed with you. Sarah said I think it has to be but I think Wolcott is going to get quite a few as well. You finished with 5, 4 or 5 didn't you? I went for the Charleston. So you nailed it. And I also said that I thought Sigurdtham would be top of the assists. You ended up with 5 assists didn't you? You kicked off 4 so you nailed it. If someone would have told me those are the things you said I wouldn't have believed them because that's very accurate. Right, on the play of the season predictions Baz said I really want to say Bernard but I'm going to say Richard Charleston. You got your own play this season. I thought he was brilliant. Sarah said that's my answer I think it's going to be with Charleston. And I said I think it's going to be Evans captain Seamus Coleman. He's going to get the captain's arm band and just be flying. Merod Wings? He got the captain's arm band. He played well in some games. So you're claiming that as well? No I'm not claiming it. Would none of us knew the impact of the likes of Luca Dina? No of course. I'm happy with my prediction of Richard Charleston. That's a good prediction. We're going to get into the player ratings now. The caveat is players with 14 or less games and really included in the top ones. So we'll give you the players for the players who played with 14 or less games. So Stechlenberg who played two games got an average rating of 4.5. So he played against Rotherham and Southampton in the League Cup. So he must have played well against Rotherham and not very good against Southampton. The goal he led in against Southampton. He played two games, 4.75, again played against Rotherham. It's very accurate. He played one and a half games essentially. Umanias played six games, his average rating was 5.5. He's going up. Six games, his average rating was 5.67. This is awfully specific. Are you agreeing so far? Do you feel like these are accurate? I think Hallgate. I can only really remember them all from one bad game. That was Westam, so that will obviously bring them down. That's the thing, that's why we haven't included them because they're low. So one really bad score would bring them down. Jerimine, we played 14 games. So why is he? Because it's 14 games or less. So essentially you have to play 15 games to be included. You only need 14 games for the league. So Jerimine, you played 14 games, you got an average of six. Layton Baines played eight games, he got an average of six as well. John Joe Kenney played 13 games, he got 6.15. Filter Gilcair, six games, 6.92. Morgan Snidlin, 14 games, he got an average of seven. That's very good. If he played one more game, he would have been very, very high. No, I'm saying, but he would have been ten. James McCarty played one game and he got an average of ten. Because I was feeling very, very generous against Manchester United. So that's why those ones aren't included. So let us get into the top of the main list here. So of course over the season I've done my player ratings and of course there's no actual scientific thing behind them. You'll see other scores from other places and they will give you a lot more accuracy. So we'll see what we get at the end of it. So at the bottom of the list, played 38 games, Thiel woke off 5.55. Do you think that's a fair reflection of his season? Yeah, or even lower. I just don't think. I think he started the season alright. Particularly against Southampton at home, I thought he played well, he scored. He had an assist. He should have scored a goal in the second half after a fantastic ever move. I think he'd done okay at Bournemouth a week later, he scored again. And he sort of peated out around October. So yeah, he was probably him and Towson were the biggest disappointments of the season because of the impact I thought he'd make. Well Towson is next on the list. He played 28 games and his average rating was 5.8. So that just shows you Sam Allardyce's two players that he signed. Bottom of this list. Which shows you, I think that's a fair reflection on the impact they've made this season. In fact I think it's interesting because the players, the three players on the bottom of this particular list of being very, very poor. And I think it shows. So the next one is Adam Ola Luchman who played 22 games. He is 5.84, which again shows that these are quite accurate in terms of... Too many games that Luchman, and let's be honest, he hasn't started many games at all. So it's mainly subject to his appearances that does need to be pointed out. Too many games just passed him by. He had no effect on it. But I thought the last couple of games, Burnley and Tottenham, I thought he did have a bit of an effect on the games. So he got better at this. He might be looking. So hopefully that's picked up. The next one on this list is really, really interesting. So Donacarvott Lewin played 32 games and his average rating was 5.84. So that just shows you that his first half of the season must have been, in my eyes, obviously very, very poor. The games at the end have obviously dragged him up, but so what it would have been, like the last 8, 10 games, last 10 games obviously, but then the other 22 games, he must have been really, really bad in, because he was sub, again he's another one who had a lot of sub at his appearances. He'd come off the bench and scored against Crystal Palace, didn't he? You know, scored against Huddersfield earlier in the season around. I think Don, I mean, that is a surprise writing to me, just looking at this afterwards, because the way he's finished the season he's finished it very, very strongly. And I suppose it's difficult when you're the substitute, but it just shows you that early on in the season he didn't affect the games as well as he did towards the end of it. Next on the list, played 29 games, Sheamus Coleman, 6.11. Yeah, I think that's about right. I think he's had an up-and-down season, he said that himself when we spoke to him at Finch Farm last week. And he's had some very good games and I think he's had some poor games and he lost his place in the side for a few games as well, don't forget, when he had that day. So I think 6 is around an average performance. So I think that's about right that he, just over the average, he's had some very good games and like you say, other ones have been poor. So I'd say that was quite accurate. So ahead of him, played 38 games, with Charleston, 6.16. And I don't think you'll have the answer to this. Are these Premier League games? No, because they all woke up, didn't play. Every Premier League game. I need a bit of Charleston. No. OK, so out of 38 games you've been involved in, 6.16. That seems very low to me for a player that won Young Player of the Year. And for a player who I would have said has affected that season massively. I agree, I think that's sometimes where I think I must see more of this, it comes along. You can have players who have a big influence in games, but that doesn't always say what they did in that particular games, you pick out moments. For Charleston, to be honest, there's been games where Charleston's played in them, scored a goal and may not have done a lot more. And there might have been other games where, don't forget, December through to February, we were atrocious and some of these players would have been dragged down massively. But they've been having average games, let's say, where it's been around six, seven. But then in other games, they've been absolutely atrocious and have been dragged down to threes and fours. That can be the sadden factor when it comes to an average. So it's not the... I wouldn't necessarily say my play of the year would come from this, but that's weird because I'm analysing game by game, but as I say, it's not scientific. With Charleston there. Next on the list is... You've played 17 games, Tom Davis, 6.19. So again, you're looking at it and going, well hang on, Tom Davis didn't have a better season. But the average over the games he's played, with Charleston's had more games to failing, essentially. That makes sense. So... When you're working on averages, it doesn't always work. Tom, what do you think about... Do you think that's about right for this season? Yeah, I think he's again, he's had some games that's been very good, and other games that have passed on by, he hasn't been able to get any influence in. But I think in general, he's been better than he was last season. I think that's all you can do as a footballer is try to improve on year on year. I think the man has just got to know his strengths, he's just signed a new contract, he's just talking about some need to go up a level. And that's the goal of being thrown down to Tom. But I think in general, I think he's done okay. There's not a chance on it that he had a better season. No, he didn't. Again, that comes down to averages. Ahead of Tom Davis playing 40 games, Guilfee Sigarton, 6.21. Now again, Guilfee, I think Guilfee's one of those players that, when he has a good game, he can be 7s, 8s, 9s. But when he's not involved in the play, and again, this was something that was put on him for parts of the season. If he hasn't got other players around him, sometimes he can do things that aren't appreciated. Sometimes he doesn't get enough of the ball in the game, he doesn't have enough touches, doesn't have enough touches in the right area. And when he has those games, I think they really bring him down, because he's not involved all over the pitch. He's not a defender, he's not someone who's going to put the ball in the back of the net all the time, although he's had a great season putting the ball in the back of the net. So I think that is a true reflection, a fair reflection of his season, because at times he's never been truly outstanding in more than, let's say, four or five games. He might have scored a great goal, he might have played a great through-ball to someone, but I don't think he's... Isn't the kind of player who grabs the game by the scruff of the net and dominates it, he has moments, and I think just by that, that might naturally mean that he doesn't get those big scores. You're the one doing the scoring. No, but this is why I'm asking you for your... I mean, I kind of... I think the thing with Guilfee is too many games compassion by just because of the type of player he is, and if we haven't, particularly... I don't think this happened. The last 10 games, I think he was involved more and more and more and more, but I think there was a section of the season, that games. Well, I'll do self-hancing away, just off the top of my head, he was atrocious, and he scored in the 91st minute. You know, so things like that, he came up with a goal. And I think the next person on the list reflects the nature of how how some players can look like they're doing more just because they're on the ball more, but they might do actually less to influence it. So on J. Golmes, 29 games played. 6.36. So again, he's a sentiment feel there. There's more of the ball. You might use the ball more. They might influence. He had one goal and probably won a assist all season. So he doesn't do more with it, but just his statue, he played less games as well. So he's ahead of him. Ahead of him is Bernard. 35 games played. 6.59. So there's only papers with between these players, but I think that's about right for Bernard. But again, I would say Sigarton's had a better season than Bernard. He's contributed more. And I love Bernard. I love what to meet. He's waived the money just alone for us. His ability is such, his awareness. I think what that shows as well, Gilfey Sigarton, he's the second highest mountain games in the season. He's played 40 games. First equal, sorry, mountain games. 40 games this season he's played. I think he's had more opportunities to be dragged down, but because he's played more games, because there's no one else to play in this position, where it's the likes of Bernard, the likes of Richard Allison. Richard Allison playing against three different positions. Bernard being in and out. So Bernard, the manager might go, you're not fit, or there might be a reason why. I know I'm not going to get the best out of you, so you're going to sit on the bench. Sigarton, we didn't have that. We didn't have that player to take his place. You know, we would start games no matter what. So I think that's where the opportunity to drag players down. This is where being a player, ratings is different from being played. And you'll probably see that as we go on. Bernard 35 games played, 6.59. Next on the list, Luca Dean. 35 games played, 6.63. And I think that's, I think that's right. No, I think that's totally wrong. No, I think that's absolutely right. Because I think there was periods of decision. I don't think there was any. No, I think there was. I think there was games, games, games, games, games, games, games. I think there was. I think there was, I think there was games that, I think person, there was games where he, he was brilliant in some games, absolutely brilliant. There was some games that he was just had a normal steady game. And there might have been a few games where he just looked a little bit, maybe off the page where we could have rested him. And I think we talked about this early on the season. It was before we got into this one or four. And we were talking about having no plays. You were above seven at the time. No, but I'm talking about where he's positioned. Because the players you've got above them in no way have had better seasons than them. No chance to fell it at the top, especially if there's not a chance. Oh, I think he'd be very... Well, but that's not ruining it, but some people might think he has. So, I mean... No ways in the ass are the better seasons. We've already mentioned him. He's thrown a racket. James McCarthy's are the better seasons than all them. Yes. With his ten. He had a decent run at them as well. But, I mean... I'm going to disagree. We had this discussion now. Like, we'd be probably around the time before we had that run of four. And no one was above seven. And although scores probably have been dragged up, they haven't been dragged up enough because there hasn't been enough games. I did say he was the club. I don't remember this conversation, that he would be the closest to seven at the time when we had that. Well, he's not that far off. 6.63. OK. Well, but you've asked me for my. That's the really... At so far, Eamon Wirtial has not probably been one, where I go. So, above him, play 40 games. Jordan Pickford, 6.69. OK. He's made the odd mistake and that will have dragged him down. But in most games he's been around at seven mark, I'd say. At some games he will have got... Made four errors that have led to goals, to see directly to goals. And he will have made all that little errors as well, like the one we've seen in the spares, which don't necessarily count like that, but 6.69, I think, because seven is normally the right... Joe, he's had the better season, and look at him. Well, he's played five more games, so that might be why he's probably higher, because he may have been more consistent. OK. Above him, playing 35 games and with an average rating of 6.72, is Michael Keane. Mm. Yeah. Again, for me, I think, his rating for me will be over seven for the season. I think he's been our best centre back. I don't think there's been any question about that there, the manager said the same. I think he's come back very, very strongly this season. You know, we know last season wasn't great for him. Like you said, I'd have him a little bit higher, but I think he's definitely been, for me, in the top three ever in plays this season, for consistency over the season. He is in the top, he is in the top. That's what I said to you. That's what I said to you. That's what I said to you. That's what I said to you. I agree with you being in the top three, but for me, his rating of being just a little bit higher than that, but he's in the top three like you've put. I agree with that, yeah. In second place, playing 33 games and an average rating of 6.79, so just slightly above Michael Keane, is Kate Zimmer, which is interesting. So two centre backs in the top three, which... We've got 14 clean sheets. A goalkeeper and two centre backs in the top five. The left back, yeah. He's got a left back, a goalkeeper, two centre backs in. Well, 14 clean sheets, like I've just said, I think it's only the fourth time he's done it in the Premier League, I think. I think it's obviously not our history, but 14 clean sheets is a lot. So that's reflected correctly because the part of the defence and those two. I'd have it the other way. I think Keane's been better than Zimmer this season, really. Zimmer's been... He's got better and better and better, but I think Keane overall, but the pair of them have been excellent for us as a partnership, so that's reflected in the idea. And top of the list, playing 34 games, having an average rating of 6.97. Some of the evident players must have agreed with me because Idrissa Ghanagay is, in terms of my player ratings, is my player of the year. In terms of the players, some of them agree, so I feel vindicated in my thoughts. But it just shows you, doesn't it? One player in my ratings has been above 7 for the entire season. That's played 15 games or more. And it shows you that over a season, we all look back and think we've had a great end of the season, which we have, but it's been a progression. Ghanagay is the last 10 games. It's hard to look at the last 10 games and then have a proper thing overgan for the full season when you're looking at it, so that's why this is good. I think the last 10 games since the PSG, I think he's been fantastic, he's been fantastic. I imagine he probably won it in those last 10 games. But I remember being around Christmas in January and us going, because we weren't playing well, and he wasn't playing well going on. I'm not that bothered if he goes to PSG. If we get 35 million for him, he stays nearly 30. It doesn't matter. Now you're going. I hope he's going to be comfortable. Because he's come on strong. Listen, a lot of it kind of ties in, and I think it's brilliant that Mark's put this together. Obviously I've got an issue with Calvin Lewin being so far down, but again, it's easy to look at the last 10 games and go between brilliant and then forget about what he was doing for the kid that hasn't played a lot of games. I know he's been involved when he started, but he would have a bit higher, but Luca Dean, for me, I think when I'd done it on the scientific way of doing it, Luca Dean's average was 7.36 over the season. That was done through stats, proper stats. I think Ghana was up there on Michael Keane. I think David was the top three ever in players, but Luca Dean across any of the stats own or he scored over every Luca Dean's well over seven as Evan's best player for the season. But I'm only down one on them. You know what, it would only be fair, because Mark put this together. Mark done his own play ratings during the season as well, and it's top five. Fifth was Keane and Sigarton tied on 6.31, so basically he's lower on Keane but higher on Sigarton, but now at 6.32 was basically 6.59, so it's around the same. 6.42, which is well down on mine. Coleman is 6.44, second, that's interesting. O'r Llywysbrys, caviatur, he wouldn't be in my top five. It's weird, that isn't a bit statistically, he did put him in there, and he's put Dean first, but with a lower score than I gave him. That tells me Mark, it's a bit harsh on Mark, doesn't it? But this is the interesting one, the ratings of each game, and I've given out the highest score would obviously be the man of the match. So, in seventh place, Rich Arlison, Mina, Baines and Towson, and Davis all got one man of the match. Towson kept man of the match again? I don't know. Mighty? Someone here. Luchman got two man of the matches. Luchman? Apparently, I don't know. I've obviously given the highest score. I don't know. A game where we were crap, and he'd come on and beat one man and you'd give him man of the match. I know what it'll be, West Ham at home. Now, it was Huddersfield when he'd come on in there. Fifth was Keen and Calvin Llewyn, got three man of the matches apiece. Tide fourth, Dean, Zuma Sigarton and Bernard, got four man of the matches. Third, Gomez got six man of the matches. Second, Garnett, six. Garnett got eight man of the matches. That doesn't surprise me. First was Pickford, got nine man of the matches. Mark's put a little caveat on these. He said, Quick explanation, if the team played bad, which they did many times, Pickford would win almost by default with a six or a seven. That's why it's gone like that, because there would have been loads of games where I've gone, we were crap today, but I'll give Pickford anything less than a six or a seven. He did his job, he made a few saves, he did what he needed to do. For man of the matches, Pickford got. But Garnett was second with eight and that's probably the closest sort of between... Closers correlations. Very, very interesting. Very, very interesting. I probably would say that Garnett would be either my play to see, or maybe my second play to see between him and Dean. Dean is quite low down, but I understand there is no way. Obviously it's a consistency of play and things happen like that. Things happen. You give a score out and I always give them out within almost an hour after the game as well. But it's interesting isn't it? It is interesting. It really is. You man of the matches, I need to start watching these videos. You man of the match writing is a bit tibious. In terms of scores, I think the nearly spot on. When I look at the season, I don't...Pickford was better last season for me than this season. There was a lot of games where there was no one who could be hiding because I always say if someone has a Pickford it's easy to just say. How can you say you're a five if he's done what he's supposed to do? If as long as he doesn't make any major mistakes, goalkeepers will let goals in. If as long as he doesn't make any major mistakes and his kicking was all right, distribution was all right then, that's fine isn't it? But it does show the scientific things. But at the end of the day we did finish eight. You know, if you want to finish in that, you want to finish top six at least, all your players. What would be interesting is getting like a man United's player ratings, a team we're finishing the top six and seeing what their player ratings are compared to ours. But if you want to finish... We have to get it to someone to score it. Oh yeah, but if you want to finish in the top six, you're going to need 11 players to finish with sevens in a bow hand. If you go on look on like you said, you're going to need 11 players to finish in a bow hand. If you go on look on like you said, the huge score, the stats and stuff like that, a few of our players are over seven. Yeah, but I'm saying you need like a level down. Because like you said, he's the highest rated player outside. Well, he's the best left back. Yeah, oh he is. On the right he's done stats and he's the highest rated player, highest score on player outside the top six. But also in those stats though I would imagine those stats places, they're taking it on where one game he might have had really, really good stats and then another game those stats might have dropped off a bit of it. It all works out. Like you said, he's comfortable. I'm happy with mine anyway. To be fair, the representation is fairly accurate. It's just a couple of things that I would say are wrong. But you can't argue with science and yours isn't science. Mark gives Mark a silver a 6.1 rating what would you give him over what I'll be doing that on another video. No, we'll do the Mark a breakdown on another video. But yeah, interesting. It's good when it's like that because like you said, the tendency is the last ten games. Everyone's well beaters. Yeah, it's better to have a look at the whole season. You look at that across there. We need like projections, you know, graphs and pole, you know everything to show where players have gone during the season. Do that as well, Mark. Come on, come back to us. I want, you know, graphs, where do you where? Where do you went up and down in the seat? That'd be a good one, wouldn't it, showing you how they were game by game. Mark. Science mate, science. Come on, you know what makes sense. Let us know your thoughts in the comments you agree with my player ratings over the course of the season. Let me know. Let me know. Or do you want to pass to start doing them again? No, I don't want to do them again. There you go. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Don't forget, if you liked this video, give it a big thumbs up. It really does help. So be if you haven't subscribed already. And if you want more videos including live videos every day, join us on Patreon. We'll see you later.