 Welcome everybody. It's 630 having a quorum. I call the regular meeting the regular January 2020 meeting of the Rochester Stockbridge Unified District Board of School Directors to order Because yeah, yeah, the mic won't pick me up unless it's right there by my voice really doesn't carry at all Do I hear adjustments to the to the agenda I wanted to add One That's a fine suggestion, so let's add Right it has to do with she's I she was looking at that and she's wondering about if everything moved to the elementary building with a Vienna space Program and I think she's jumped a little ahead of the whole the whole process But we all do that in this in this discussion. I think it So let's add her as a discussion item 9.3 one planet Building update. I Certainly can at Stockbridge generator at Item point 9.4. I wanted to add the annual report and an update from the building committee progress Okay So now we have a 93 and 94 do we have any other adjustments 93 was the one planet building discussion and 94 was the Generator discussion You have nothing to add You're good Okay Okay already then so With those adjustments to the agenda made we need to assign a timekeeper and kind of bust out some times to these sorts of things You sir have done it had been a good job of raining us in and running Ramble as it felt appropriate, so Yeah, let's just kind of Usually do that for 10 no me same with the word comment Happy New Year Yeah There's three of them maybe five minutes of policy 15 minutes Update 20 sure We have no action items apparently I That's good point Oh The one planet discussion in 94 was the generator, so let's put them down for For the building and 15 for the annual We are now moving into item 4 the first public comment session Anything Okay, thank you. Nice to see you. Happy new year Consent agenda we have attached Minutes from the November 5th and the December 3rd meeting For approval I would entertain a motion to approve the packet You and you found something So just to clarify Let's see this would be something December's minutes and at the very end with One I just want to know in the second or third sentence where it says in Rochester The money has been endowed to the town To clarify And I'm not sure how much wrong put in the notes, but Stockbridge was in down money to Stockbridge Rochester was in down money to Rochester school Rochester was in down money to Rochester town What would the letter we were writing to the trustees of public funds is? Requesting money that was in down to Rochester town correct, and I just felt that Just didn't think that it clarified it That there was a separation between Rochester school money around just her town money. We're asking for town money Let's change the Friendly amendment. Why don't we change the minutes to say we are asking the town for a disbursement of town funds instead of for a code gift Is there And that was it So I would entertain a motion actually to approve. It's just the December minutes that are in the packet Yeah, I was thinking I was I was actually looking through the December moments minutes to see Yes The 5.11 Ethan made a motion Megan's accepted minutes were approved So we are actually just approving the December 3rd minutes All those in favor of approving Did I get a motion in a second? Did so make a motion You know I would entertain a motion to accept the Motion has been made in seconded Motion is made in seconded further discussion Hearing none all those in favor signify by saying I'm the December 3rd minutes have been approved as amended Board comment I didn't know that you hadn't been going into I have been to probably about half of them. I've been missing them because of personal commitments Okay, so I know it's Okay, that I that I can't think of okay, that's something How am I going to know when to be there because clearly I don't want to be missing and we need to be present Sure, I think in general the alternate usually attends as well Yeah, just there's there's two I mean often. There's a board member and an ultimate from a couple times It depends Sure Okay, so I just appreciate Communication from you absolutely. I apologize and I'll try to thank you Come back So on that note at the full board meeting last night we afterwards had a wagon wheel Rochester Stockbridge meeting where we were approving our announced tuition rate and We approved it at 16 440 15 440 That was 15 last it was 3% increase from last year's last year's was 65 so it was a 3% Increase to So that's what we had decided Mm-hmm It was a 3% increase over last year, which is the same thing we did last year as well There was room to go up quite a bit higher, but we chose that we Keep kind of with the Cost of living increase kind of thing Yeah In general we have we've seen in the past that when your tuition is pegged higher or you know significantly higher or lower Than the schools in the area. Yeah, we kind of get called out on it. So yeah, and that does really fall in line with the rest of our schools Proving their own announced which is last night. So I only have the previous year But that's a lot of them for last year was 16 425 For their element I think Bruce has the rest of the meaning Yeah, so if we have an air board comment Yes Well, usually usually she always they always think they can get us our budget. We always get pushed back Later annual meeting. So but we did agree last meeting to Excuse me calendar's the 13th on the 23rd. So everybody please make sure that is So We already The budget January 23 13th and the 23 Right, and the 13th can happen because she can't do it till the 20th, but the 23rd Okay Just try to be remain flexible. Yeah, and know that this is coming Yeah, and we had said the minutes reflect that we thought it'd be at Stockbridge on the 23rd Does that still what we want to do? So we had Rochester for the 13th and Stockbridge for the 20th We're not going to if we're not going to Rochester. I mean do we I think it was it just because we were alternating I assumed so One location together for the 23rd Stockbridge Yeah, that makes that makes perfect sense. So when let's let's leave it as a minute tentative meeting 630 here on the 23rd any other board comment Bruce superintendents report Last week trying to get it down for anybody It's up 4.6% and largely because We are now budgeting for the HRAs Everybody has and I don't think that was properly budgeted in the past We're not budgeting it Full amount of them not a hundred percent 64% around the state Do budget that some people won't take them and therefore And that's currently at about 46 46% No, also Remind me when we make a contribution to an HRA It's it's it's it's not a it's not like a professional Professional development budget line item where we budget this much and they can take whatever they want to take contractually And it might be higher or lower, but it's a best guess and we pay whatever they actually use the HRA Contribution we set that is and that goes into the system and whether they draw it down or not leads to us having a surplus For the next year correct We thought we May have some extra at the end Right, I just want us to be careful that we don't You know keep keep rolling extra, you know, I mean it is the first year And then and we don't have to worry about that now But I just just want us to make sure that we're tracking it. So we're not The other two areas Account Rose Heeman she started on Monday. She has been the town administrator for Royalton Comes to us with over 10 years of experience in accounting this whole county So she was we were delighted that she was interested in she was if she she didn't go to Come to us. She was gonna go somewhere else because they I Utilized Accessibly She went in there as an accountant and just kind of her skills Responsibilities expanded like crazy This was Executive board had given us permission to go looking for an accountant because we We had part of it the money covered in the budget We were also paying Marilyn Frederick and she's gonna be leaving. She's not doing that many hours now And she will be leaving totally pretty soon So this was a way of Stopping that and putting something in the budget. We think we're at full strength now We were looking originally for an accountant and a half We don't believe we're gonna have to hire the half But we also know that he has spring And it's going to drop down to a partial position and we're gonna have to hire a payroll person then so You know, there's there's some fluidity. I guess you would say in Physicians at the issue and spin there for 32 years Is this sorry so adding this account maybe made this clear already, but adding this account in position Is that part of the 4.6 increase? Yes? Yes? Yes? It's not I mean, it's not part of it's that and part of it we already had Because we had So now that we've hired full time And now we've hired that account does that mean we're not paying The auditors anymore for for their accountant consultancy rolls all that money. We're paying them what they've got to come back I think one more time I think you should have a lot of confidence in your books They should be really clean and know where all your trust funds are and how much they are Well, I restricted accounts. That's still that's been our biggest Question going forward is is our surplus a real surplus or is it the co-mingled? Restricted I'm expecting we'll have I don't want to give any dates because every time I say that they don't meet those deadlines But I think you know, basically the the budget process last night was a little bit difficult second thoughts about some of the boards about Voting on this and and they You guys were there. So I don't say any way you want to say I wanted to ask you a question about that I know there was one representative Andrews somebody Who seemed to think that there was one of the only way we were wrongs that was in the SQ budget Was the idea of how much we budgeted for these HRAs and then we can bring that down From 65 maybe to 16 maybe to 55 to to free up more money I know they've got a big deficit to make up. Yeah What do you think of that idea? I? I have to lean on the orders for the advice that we've been given. I mean They do this work all the time and and I Have to remind you that this was terrorist field before she came to us And so she's strong in anything. It's that yeah, it's insurance stick with the 65 Yeah, we've been given that advice and I I'm feeling pretty comfortable I know one of the biggest things we will be talking people will be talking about it army As they always do is the SQ budget. It's one of the things I want to know Report in that I'm sorry. I want to make it very clear that's in the past So I do think we need to make it very clear and probably should put it out in the paper that The full board and executive board are voting on the SQ budget that people can go to those meetings So I think there's people in our towns who would be very interested through those meetings While it's happening because of all so often I think we get to the I think we get to our board meeting We had one person from the outside. Yeah during that. Yeah, well, I don't think teacher I don't think it's it's made clear and I think it's as important to people because then it takes a lot of pressure Boss or some if we've advertised it. Well, then people know hey, this is where you can go and look at these numbers Whether you voted on and have your input well You know whether we're going to get past last night or not I don't have to go back and cut some more. I mean I Prought pretty much last Thursday Tara and I sat in a room for about four hours and just niggled and dined it until we got down to I Said I gotta get under five percent There's no way in the world that we're gonna have to be able to put that in front of somebody And I don't know maybe you know, we could have kept going but it would probably been people, you know pretty soon, so Consistently is that budget voted on early January or is it usually late December usually at this time And I think there's a little anxiety on the board members that we need to that needs to be passed before we know What the assessment is in your other So I don't think we're horribly late. We would have been maybe Little more risky if we had put it off last night, but you know I was you guys were debating that and I was just kind of sitting back and saying whatever it is The special ed budget passed as well That was up Something like that And the whole discussion was whether or not to be realistic or to hedge it and hope That we won't incur some of the costs that because you don't know which kids are gonna be served and where they're gonna be served It's just kind of a guesstimate One thing with the special ed budget is that they Reassess it every is it poorly so so if there's movement in the district of a child moving out to that There's less services needed then our assessment will be less So it's not that we'll be charged It'll be an act of the actual charge so we're going with those better to prepare for it Highside and hopefully it's lower There wasn't much Is there any choice in this except for the estimation but the fact of the actual costs That's what speeds that's what said I'm not sure that's always true And I'm for special educators, so maybe I feel a little better about that Would you be able to identify there is What's going to happen in a year with a special needs student they may Bomb out of a class and have to get placed. We're trying that's one of the reasons why we try to expand the restored program because With act 173 I mean they want us to have our own Homegrown programs rather than a lot of these places that cost a hundred thousand dollars a year Places just not going to be possible because you're going to be given a lump sum of money You're going to have to live in it live within it That's what's going to happen It'll give block grant kind of thing So the Secretary of Education has told us you need to build your own program and that's and so we're following through we've just Expanded the middle school program in Bethel so that we can accommodate your kids Like five or six more kids, but we have a waiting list of kids that need to get in there, so Everybody that's in there's in just in SU We could yes, and we can make money We've kind of been in the mindset because the program's only once 2015 we started this It's only in the middle school programs only been open. I think this is the second year third year second year But we've already outgrown it the space we read and then we've We've basically moved to a bigger classroom, so we can handle some more kids But and the possibility is that we can take some kids from out of district and start charging They have But it's not The return rate to the to the regular population and this was the stipulation all along that we Didn't want it to be a last destination for kids. We wanted them straight out Work with and then return back into the regular environment Since we opened in 2015 41% of the kids have gone back to class in their home building Chelsea ton bridge It's it's Huge I mean it doesn't sound like much, but you're talking about kids that are You know throne chairs and biting people and and all kinds of things and so Bill just came out with his book actually a couple days ago, and I have a copy of it, but What I'm afraid of is other districts are going to steal in the way and Because he's had so much success 41% for kids like we're talking about is a huge number and So and it's a loud It's allowed the buildings to get settled down because these kids now that people working with them The run-of-the-mill teacher Doesn't have the skills on it with behavior that the people that the bills trained everybody You know, we haven't sent away, you know kids Teachers have been trained. He's been very careful about who he's hired Right What you're trying to get some money to build a space Yeah Well, it's it's not dead, but it's it's not active right now. I think we Well the issue the issue and I know this is come up before is that these kids need to be with their peer group and especially like the seventh and eighth graders and They're over here and putting them in the old high school building or the high school building takes them out of that it isolates them So We have two programs in Wilton right now Program the little guys and the other is Three through five Well, especially when the other option is building somewhere else She's actually Just being about an hour 20 minutes I mean can we run to like of one centralized to the south world area one We're on this edge of the district because we are a huge district From Rochester, so I feel that students should be able to travel 45 minutes We're sending I don't know how many kids are on our boss going I know that there is One from stock I'm having from because that's all just a hop skip and a jump From to Bethel You know the program is not huge it's probably I think there's five middle school right now there's five or six any each of the classrooms in the world and they have I mean Staff members In November 25th, there was five in the K through two program There was six in the three through Five program and five in the six through eight program So the six through eight is going to now expand for probably close to ten Because we have a waiting list of seven For those kids They're not all it's not one size fits all but we're gonna If we sent them to East Valley Academy, which is one of the cheaper placements That's $50,000 and for a kid that's on 504 plan. It isn't a coded special ed kid. We don't get any state Funding so you guys have to pay that out of your pocket It's probably 37,000 for tuition and another Well, that's fine. No, but it's five or four Bethel and Royals and play it out of their pocket. Well, yeah I'm not saying I say you guys like Spread coding versus or spread reimbursement right just five or four coating You can't get that and all the more reason and as long as we keep a 50% or 60 40% In the restorative program Those kids can use the special ed formula in 504 kids to pay for that. So it's not a Huge cost on the local district to send somebody to restorative, but it would be if you sent them out of this and and quite frankly The work that Bill's done I want to keep him busy because he's finding results, you know So anyways, the owners gave out a report last night. I don't know whether any Everybody I'd like to say from last night I was happy to see the literacy Results Started at 42% of our kids were on Now up into the 50s Really good 27 kids that have gotten proficient since we started in September 27 more than there were Now those kids might have been right on the edge, you know Oh You had to stop talking as soon as I pop the truck Um So we have been asked to consider three policies Yes We it's a policy on students 18 year old or older There's a policy on field trips and there's a policy on therapy dogs, which is uncoded As I understand it we can't we cannot approve these policies tonight because they weren't specifically warned Policies have to be worn by name, I believe So the public know that they're attending a meeting for a policy about Yes Which I do want to kind of comment on the last set of policies that we review We had some very minor adjustments to The problem is is that The policy committee is trying to have the same policies throughout the whole district So we adjusted those policies that were potentially already passed Warned and passed by other boards. So therefore now that policy is not the same wording throughout the whole district So then They have to go back and we more than that policy with those adjustments and it's I just kind of put it out there I didn't really realize that It's a it's a it's more of a clerical matter that I mean we're allowed to have our policies. We don't have to follow SU policies As consistent as possible and a lot of the The changes that like we've kicked back have been saying things like we want the superintendent Or his or her designee to approve using a you know, local building space use We don't have to go to Bruce to get that Bonnie and Bonnie and Lindy can decide if the you know If they want to have a hunter's breakfast here Some some Saturday morning at the start of a musket season or whatever You know, I think so I think it did the back and forth is is clerical I think When it's the more confusing conversations have been like the times when we've made our changes and then Sharon's made another set of changes And then other people have approved it as as left and then now you've got Right, nice. I think that that you know potentially that those last set that we approve that we made changes to its pros in that same realm that now Now Sharon's got one other people that you have wanted to know we have one now You know, I don't know how big of a deal that is with the SU No, it's not a big deal. And in some cases where you've added punctuation. I'm not You know, I just added to the one that they approved and correct it a little bit And it's not something that affects the wording or the meaning of the policy That's a different story And the other thing that happens is when the when the so the policy committee takes those Rochester Stockbridge one and the Sharon one and the generic one and worse them together and reapprove it You know When the when the full board reapproves that policy that it's now back to being an SU policy and we would have to Ourself so we would be back. We wouldn't have to re-vote it You know what I mean? We just have put up so we don't like what I changed to the policy committee means we're changing it back Those don't need to be put in the paper and and we have a final correct, okay Everybody's finished So Is that Yeah, I mean the comments I Think that you know given that we educate children from pre-k through six I think that we should you know stay silent or just let the SU adopt these students 18 years of older policy and not Really get our you know get our fingers dirty in that at all You know the the field trip policy seemed seemed seemed pretty clear Do we have any examples of other policies about around therapy dogs or where this So I remember when this came up at the policy committee read where this come from Internet retrieve so to speak and We messed around with they wanted to make sure that Sometimes consistent way of Clearing for for dogs. They so we added the American Good citizen certification and also the Vermont 30 dog registry as consistent ways of approving Told you before the reason that this is even come up. It's because we had people answers mostly bringing in balls and then Dogs were getting in fights With each other and I I said one of them. I said look I wanted this field to work with kids I don't know So These people on leashes and you got kids are afraid of dogs and you've got kids that are allergic to dogs So it was a way of when you can't tell one person to do that and nobody else That makes sense Yes But it is important that we identify a dog is a therapy dog and not as somebody's pet They are just running to school with them. Just a good dog that they can keep in their office for the day Right. No, I didn't the question if this was an internet retrieval we run this by Dina I mean, I guess I would But we You know, I mean The policy committee looked at it and then set me back to get some Changes to right things. They wanted to see right. I can say I can throw it in front. Yeah, that's not Yeah, I would do that was one of the things I thought we had said Let the policy committee To make you have to clarify that so clearly on the spot The standards and procedures paragraph doesn't really talk about standards. It talks about just requesting how to request the dog And does there need to be a policy for service dogs or is that already Something that's established. I know they're different, but is that something an ADA dog? You can only ask two questions around and see if I remember this right You can only ask two questions around an ADA dog Is it is it a trained to assist in a task and is it helping a person with needs or But there's there's the service dogs You can't really have a policy around them because it's the 80. It's the the American Disabilities Act See if I can look at this I know they're different. I just didn't know if we needed to Well Well the American Disabilities Act allow gives provisions for Service animals to be anywhere with them. So Right Well somebody decides that the therapy dog is part of ADA disability is It's psychological You're gonna have a conflict That certification Because you're right there is gonna be conflict, but you can say that but now you're done. It's for training just like a right Yeah, I found so many different Organizations and training dogs when I went to try to figure out what are the ones we should be using and So it just seemed like the American Council thought was pretty mainstream and the other was the Vermont therapy dog registry, which is not That's not a high bar and pass, but it's there. Yeah No, it's it's you had the the animal has to be trained to perform a specific task like Reminding someone to take their medicine or keeping track helping a diabetic No, when their blood sugar is low and it must be related to a specific disability And if the animals is that it's ADA you can't do a thing about it Which is fine, you know, it's it's there for a reason but The therapy animals and comfort animals are different and we we can have a policy about that But yeah, I would see if we could toss it in front of dina or see if she already did Okay General just So there's seven of them there is In the the owner who wants to bring a therapy dog to school must submit a written request form to principle or superintendent. So at that point I guess what it does is it doesn't order the grounds on me. Yeah, you know, what would the Well, again, these are questions. Maybe we can be running by dina because Maybe maybe we have the stand that the administrator can say there are too many Just be easy to say I'm just thinking The principle of your school And that's where you're going to have a problem picking the same to one teacher. No How does this apply to um, is it one of the sap counselors that has a therapy dog Hmm So I just I'm kind of wondering how that gets that's part of what the question is Just good dog or a therapy dog Just, you know, we're in 13 minutes and 15 minutes. I understand that they're very titled as Your dog is a good dog You know what I do is a peanut Absolutely done. There's no peanuts and so the kid has a dog allergy Which couldn't sit on the stairs As an attack Well, I think, you know, we're as you pointed out, we're 15 minutes in we've come with a litany of Concerns about this policy. So I think Bruce you you accomplish what you want to do with this discussion You've got a lot of feedback on that policy and hopefully we can sort that for before we we actually have to approve it Um So the we didn't say I mean of the field trip policy um It seems seems fairly Fairly reasonable. Does anyone have any comments on that? Yes I mean do you guys are the administrators that are going to be receiving these field trip requests and reports Is this does this does that work for you? Or do you have any if you have any thoughts? Can you get into the policy committee? Okay, so then uh That's a good point. Can we do that first? Can we switch points and uh, we would we I agree with lindy switching items two and three Because first comes the request then comes the permission slips and then comes the report Thank you. All right. Um, that brings us to uh, 9.1 the building committee update All right, but you said around There's a draft that's floating around the committee that still is getting I think the bigger question at large is You need to pay to maintain the mass square footage that we're not using So we really need to have these community meetings because what's happening is a Several of us are sitting there trying to cash out conversations that need to happen with every community member possible And we need to give this information out to the committees and you need to give you numbers and that's what's floating around in the draft is that we tried to go back to the charge which Was difficult in theory it shouldn't have been but we all should know you better. I think We could give you numbers with the report set It's how you guys want to move forward as a board And we think we know what some community members want, but we don't know what everybody wants And if you say the numbers out loud, it's it's gonna it's gonna start a conversation that As many people as possible should be present for And I just also really want to urge the board. I'm happy to share a more detailed summary, right? Um Not everybody in the committee We're kind of at a standstill. I guess about what should be shared out Um, so I guess my feedback is we're at the point of Adult decisions Are starting to have key consequences because we're starting to say if we keep trying the status quo And buildings need a lot of work. There's no And those numbers are lost If we keep the status quo, we're gonna start to take educational opportunities So there's gonna be key consequences and I really just Fundamentally, I struggle with that So Bonnie and I's recommendation is that we start the community engagement piece as soon as possible Like I said, I'm happy to share the draft, but the committee felt like the members of the committee felt like there was more More to say, you don't want to make any assumptions about how to move forward, but a priority Is that we can't do a lot of different things and The big can't do anything to take space that's not used so, um One of the things I really got out of the Building committee was and the report. Um Is that there was no glaring answers and I think that was Um, there's no aha. This is what we should do because this makes finance financially We didn't have that And yeah, the report was um, you know, it was it was really complicated to to sit down and try to really You know hash this all out and and like rindi said it's The decisions that we're making have a really high like political impact on and are on our school budgets and um They've high um in the town politics and then the emotional part of it. Um But really we need To find out what our community's value for the education of our kids what does What does Rochester as a community really value and really want to put resources towards as the education for their kids What a stock bridge really value for their for the Education of their kids I mean, and it's all our kids what we do with these two different buildings that and we need to understand What what the town values really? So Well, and it's you know, it's it's it's it's it's it's compounded by The you know, there is not a way to You know split or bifurcate You know the the bonding where It could be said that the Rochester buildings are going to cost this much so the Rochester's voters would have to approve That for the buildings in their town and the stock bridge. It's one, you know, but dina did finally You know answer me in a very direct fashion It is it is a district and they are the assets of that district There is not a way that you could write a Bonding question or a bonding issue that would allow the two communities to vote on their own You know their their own bonding amounts. It would be it would be a bond Before the district well and also with the community piece of it, I really think that it's time to really get our town officials involved to really know what type of direction Like The town of Rochester is trying to go in do they have specific ideas and that's for this space I know we kind of wanted to Figure out what we were doing out first and then say, hey You know, you guys have any interest, but really we can't be doing this in a vacuum We really need we need input from from our community Yep, just to clarify. I think I've just heard Are you saying that out of the building committee meetings? You don't feel you have A way to Present this information to the public yet We can we can present we can present So I'm feeling this and I may be the dissent This is my own personal subjective I'm going to pretend to be right This is tremendously complicated Oh, the report itself is incredibly dense. The process We put in our we started with 10 options There was only one meeting You know, my sense was that a clear understanding of what seemed to come to be that there are these two different agendas working clearly these three different bounds And how do you how do you align with those? But I don't think we or some of them, maybe not us hasn't done enough work on this subject because it's so complicated and so nuanced And I wouldn't want to go and give this document to the public right now Because it doesn't really tell you what these numbers that are in there. They're very speculative But probably be worse. We don't know because they're, you know, very well known to you all three of them So I couldn't tell you how to do it but my my own sense was that this is being rushed, you know And you've been disagreeing me if you want but Some people in Stockbridge are uncomfortable with the merger Yeah And you know that merger was rushed Yes The gun perry's head and it was rushed and it was blown So I'm feeling here And there are things that I think were really important difficult foreign issues that have to be dealt with that aren't really dealt with here So if you went and sat around people in Rochester and said You know, this is what and here's the here's the blueprint what we think or something It just feels very thin to me But I don't look at the answer for and then I agree to no perfect answer Oh, this is easy. Just do this. There's no easy answer in here So what are the issues that we need to deal with between these two communities before we need to talk about building? Sure How I came out of it, which is similar to what Rob did We went, we had several meetings. I mean every meeting ain't not everyone could But at the end of each meeting we did have kind of agreement of what we discussed And at the last meeting we did have numbers that we were bringing tonight and we were going to have a report Then you wrote the report up and we body helped her But because it didn't come out the way certain people wanted it to come out we're not presented it tonight And the reason that's how I feel and I don't know if you feel the same way But I kind of maybe not but the three numbers that came up or that the study That we have the study for was how much does it cost To bring the three individual buildings up to What we think is the minimum safety Best for education, but the minimum, right? So what are those three numbers? They deserve to hear right and it's right from the report This is from the engineer And that's where you're asking right It's different I mean what I'm asking is that you're saying and I do I actually agree with you in my soul that there are You know if there's leftover feelings that we need to work out about this merger If there's leftover feelings that we have to before we can address I agree with that Our reasons are That's over feelings are and you hear the numbers you're going to see why Right and that's the cut We started going through the report thinking okay Well, we can each one of us can handpick what type of things need to be fixed and what don't need to be fixed But it is so dense and there's so many of them that to we really The vet we really to come up with a direction that we want to go first and then sit down and say, okay Do we really need to do this $100,000 thing? Do we really need to do this $50,000? We didn't have that direction Because that wasn't our charge right we need to walk out This with the bare minimums that were recommended as priority one items For all three bills Right and that was that was one of the issues that the committee found With with the report and was that There a lot of the numbers for one involved Make this a school building for the next generation. There was not a and then so one of the issues that Was that Right So then then also just the understanding of the question became well Where are we going to be, you know, so we we we do this and we bond this out and we make this thing happen And we're you know put aside the politics, but we do that. We're not going to be you know We're going to be looking at a timeline of having a school You know renovated in a couple years three years and what's our population going to be I mean what what what what what group of schools are we serving and so That was one of the numbers that though that the committee was having problems wrestling with was was population projections I don't know I'm going to say this I haven't been at any of the meetings you guys are always seem to be at night when I'm somewhere else, but I have been going back and forth with tim pratt all day about this and he believes the fundamental idea here is that Haven't you guys going beyond your charge As far as a building committee having you going and and I know how it works you get in a meeting you start working on trying to fix things and do things and Under things but I'm just asking a question really for him because he's been back and forth with me all day If you're starting to talk about bonding buildings and things like that You know, isn't that Let's go Our building meeting we acknowledge we've back and revisited our chart to what I believe our chart was is to Better understand the report and present it to our communities. It wasn't to say let's recommend this. Let's do that I think what Has come founded us a little bit And I don't think it's impossible to move through is that we have some undetermined tools for trying to work one of the first things that Cricket McCusker, and I'm sorry to be and I always forget his name We both have extensive background in engineering slash building Clashing us is that the figures in the report could be off by as much as 50 percent either way And it would take Finances and time to further refine those numbers. So is it really is something that's listed at a million dollars Really million dollars years at five hundred thousand or is it a million and a half? I don't think the building committee has to resolve that I think the building committee Perhaps with another meeting to prepare a presentation or whatever is ready to fulfill its charge This is what the report says We're reporting it out. I'm going to restate something that Lindsey said We have We have a sense many of us I I have less than a sense anybody because I live in either community But many of you have a sense of what you think the community wants But we have to hear from the community We do have community of Rochester. This is what we want Then maybe another committee that comes forward and says, okay, you said you wanted this and you said you wanted this We've refined the numbers. This is now how we check cost to have this Can't be afforded can't be doing I think we're trying to bite off Too large of a piece of a very complex problem. For instead, I think we need to break it down into smaller pieces And I would agree with lindy. I think it's essential that we get out to the communities of stock bridge in Rochester soon with what we have clearly explained and Clearly defined The other thing I'd like to say while we're on camera. I'd like to take as much will be for this There was a point in really committee when I said something that I think Took a soft track a little bit And I'll restate it this way. I'm still firmly committed to the fact that we have to get the Rochester program In a single building, but I do not know how to do that because neither building As it exists right now gives us the opportunity to do our music physical education Cafeteria lunch. We don't have a Here It would take acts of $100 to reconfigure that I school gym into a multi-purpose room. I don't know if that's how the communities want to spend their life So I think we're trying to do more than we need to do to make sure I think we have a set of acts To the extent that we have we need to get out to our Our colleagues and friends and relatives in our communities and say tell us what you think And some of that feedback will be Passionate some of that feedback will be pointed, but I think you can't go which program would out here From the from the post in the two times I I I have to concur with I mean as a committee member My opinion from the committee would would would be that I don't see That the committee if we got together and and and sat down and did a lot more we're going to Answer some of the questions because again one of the things that that plan did was it didn't look at how you could you know It said let's build an extension on the elementary school. Let's not look at how to repurpose that that that room And you know yet a numbers could be up or down But the idea that stock bridge You know the cost of of doing the minimum to stock bridge is one tenth the cost of doing the minimum to the rochester elementary school And it's a bunch more than that to do to do that to to the high school Does bring up a question that and again You're right. Tim Pratt. We're not talking about bonding and what rates we're going to get and what that's going to do to our tax rate but just the the the one of the things the community has to have explained to them is that you know, there's there's There's a big inequity in terms of the the condition of of the campuses in the two towns And what is the commitment? What does the community want to do about that? And I think you know, that's a conversation that yeah, it is Somewhat somewhat rushed but we need to start it because I don't think as a committee we can do more Without saying, you know, I don't feel like we said and correct me if I'm wrong Everyone who was in the meeting especially because I missed the last one who was sick as a dog but I don't know that the committee felt like we had a good set of things We wanted to go back to black river design and say refine this tell us what it would cost to to give us a Back of the napkin estimation of doing a renovation on the building the elementary school building versus building in addition to it So it can keep a gym And you know Whether the whether the Rochester community cares about that Or not as a conversation, I think you know, we should be having with them But I think we need to to to get out in front of people and say, you know, here's the things. Here's the stuff We don't know. We don't we don't have a good student student Population projection We we we only have these these information about really doing forward full renovations to the building We don't know what the costs of uh, or how you know What the costs of education going forward are going to be or if Uh We're going to maintain, you know, the small schools grant that they said they're to maybe taking away that we thought hadn't Purchased This is a different different thing and I would like to make it a charge to the building committee Not to deal with numbers Not to deal with additions I would charge you to come up with the three key questions. We need to ask our community Even if it's a difficult Yeah, I think it's You know, this is it. What are the questions? Yeah, and we'll get there, but I just want to finish this Rob, you said there's something underneath And you said this, you know, there's something beyond these buildings That we're talking about here, and I think the only way you get to that is by really figuring out What you want to know from That takes and I think that is a very specific charge to give you that I think you could go and be successful I think the first question is With the budget you're working on right now Can we afford to increase it by the amounts of money that we're talking about? On top of it, like are we the budget you are working on right now with the expenses? We have right now Which is putting people right at the edge of their budgets their personal budgets Can we add onto it that much more and in the town of stock bridge? Can we add? 40 percent of a huge We're talking a million dollars To renovate one Of the buildings in ruck in Rochester one of them And ours is a hundred or something so I'm scared to think of doing a hundred Thousand dollars adding that to our little budget. I can't imagine also doing for 40 percent of theirs That's the question. Where are we at our own budget for this coming year and adding on top of that? And I know it's a bond and that doesn't necessarily go into the budget It still has to get paid great And I think we're going back to what the community values We need to have this conversation to find out what everybody feels and that's exactly it Core issue and and we were promised things And we can't have those extra things because now we have to worry about Rehabbing buildings that haven't had any updates or or repairs in the years And yet we have tried here So it's it's it's a subsidizing of one town by the other If you look at it you take your question large Which is can we afford that school I mean if you look at these things And that is I mean, I think there is some truths that I I don't know that we have this in writing anywhere, but It's certainly been stated whether these schools will ever be allowed to separate Even that there's always choice. Yeah, um, but even then I'm not sure You know the state who knows with this department of education. It's going to Decide But I'm just saying I think I think you're right. I really think we're getting to a really core question here That has to ask the communities But I think that's the kind of question that never got asked in the In the merger because we were always so worried. We just had to get a Did everybody Joanne you mentioned some draft text. Is that something that committee put together or is that the Some draft text you mentioned. Is that something that he edited? Can you send that Around to the board? I would like to see it. Yeah It's not public information This is my biggest concern about this report Is that if it gets out and it comes cast and Some men like just don't think it has a nuance of work. It's good. It's not it's good. It's all true. It's good, but I would say, you know to your point about having gone beyond are we a dancing too best for a shoe That's you know, are we beyond our our mission? That's a really good question and and if our mission is basically here's the here's the report. Here's the price tag go crazy And then we over because um But if they have a larger responsibility, which is to look at these communities and more organic sense and to understand What can they really afford where they really want? I mean these these communities are so different. Let me I'll make a little point That came out to me and and I'm uncomfortable because I feel like I kind of paper over and that's the business of using the music and Art room in the high school So my my reading of this afterwards and I did agree with this is that we all agree it can only be two schools two buildings The problem with that and I'm not talking about functions and money, but how people feel in Rochester about art and music And it's their building and they pay for it and it has to be needed Then how do we how do we then go to the school and say well here's how we're going to take care of you without building a whole new school And and now that is going to be on the chart that's sort of the conversation But I said that was like the first thing that that struck me that if if we had one town the doctors were to be happy to have a facility of this kind in another Community that put money into a different kind of facility. Can you put those two together or are there are they just And I think Rob that I then I caused again I want to take responsibility with that. I think I've caused some of that confusion when I said I think it's it's very important that we get the Rochester program on building what I should have said In hindsight reflecting back what I should have said is it's very important that we get out of the business of paying to maintain large spaces that we're not using because in the back of my mind I was always thinking we'd be happy to provide space for art and music What Let's let's say let Lindy go ahead Our charge was truly just to say like the current structures Properties what the problems like and how much it's been cost And to fix them bottom line. I think what you're asking for even I completely agree with but I think that's a whole different committee Yeah, I think it probably is And I would urge us to really be for it. I've got to say My biggest concern And I'm gonna just keep saying it is we're gonna get to the point where a decision is going to be made because of the crisis meaning Numbers are going to shift meaning a building's going to be not usable and all of a sudden you're paying the type of water and money that's in many of these We're just not going to make good decisions We're waiting for a waterfall and that is the way and that is that deferred maintenance that's been going on here Not here here, but in the district for a long long time and It needs to be so what actually for me to take Are we going to take any action today? I don't know about tonight. I'm gonna take another strong plea for the notion that we have to get From our community what they value and how it is they want to educate their children We need to hear from as many community members as we can get into a room we can come And I think you should be honest about the rough rough. I'm gonna say rough because again that Yeah, the rough estimation of what it costs Just to have a meeting scheduled right now to wrap it up. No, we do not we To answer the three questions, you know, we need to look at do we still want to be merged? Can we afford to improve our buildings and still educate our kids in them in two campuses or only in one? And you know, what's the what's the implications of Not having a school at all and being full choice beyond we all just say, oh, that'll be wonderful You know kids will it'll be cheaper for us. We won't have to maintain a school Like somehow our kids will will you know, we complain that we don't want our kids necessarily go between these two campuses That are 11 miles apart what it's going to happen to families in our area when we're saying, okay You're now going to go to You know, you figure out where you're taking your kids. You want to get them to kill me and get them there You want to get them to bar or get them there? The first question was one of the things that that immediately came up is do our communities really want to be merged Especially in light of some of these rough finance numbers and and and and the way the thing is going on Why is a question not What would it take to get the programming in one building in Rochester? Why is it one extreme or the other? I'm playing devil's devil's advocate Yeah, well, I thought the middle I thought the middle question that I said was about Can we afford to have schools in two buildings or in one building? Which led to the third question of what's the implications of full choice Because yeah, two buildings versus one building is Is a conversation Well, it's a one building. I'm not saying where that one building is recall We discussed in the committee building a new campus somewhere that might be cheaper than building than dealing with these two buildings And they said it was how many millions So I think that I think that lends itself to a question that was part of the study committee That was coming up a lot in our meeting was Whether or not If a school was to dissolve whether you would want to be part of a unified district or you would want full choice Which is why I purposely put into that That's divorce laws because I knew where your community stood I'm just being very unsure about the future with our population, right? And if no reason you can't keep your school I'm not saying that a stopper could have choice if that was it If they didn't we don't want to pay all this money for you guys because that's what it is And I think that's a discussion that our community has That's we need to have it sooner rather than later Right So we have to bring that to the larger So how are we going to do that? Is it be nice to know before we leave to me? So I don't fix the document you have it's ready to do that yet If all if you think that needed to do was have a price tag on it and say god bless you It's good enough for them for them this other step All this complexity that you're talking about that this is it It took those choices off the list We have all those things that we're going to have control of Lindy and I have been in contact with a woman who does community facilitation How she's done it for several years. She's not necessarily interested in taking us on as we work because she has a lot of work But she is willing and I both know she is willing to sit down and talk with us about a process That really starts even from your idea about being very careful about what are the questions that you're going to ask Otherwise you get a whole lot of feedback that isn't particularly helpful But what are the questions that you're going to ask? And wondering if the board would like us to pursue that contact and come back with this is what As well as provide a list of recommendations Do you think has some sort of attempt that you could be And you said this process is you take the quarter of the list to you like every eight More about the discussion And having once you get them in the room once you get everything Yeah, no, I'm saying that is you're right because it needs to be Very hard to find the asking the right questions tonight I think that's really Jen just to make one comment that It keeps being brought up that stop like Rochester's about the music and the arms and all that and stop We just did not all respect But you have to stop saying that because we have vote fair We know I really No, but you said it a million times and I need to say this Our community loves music too Unrefined when it comes to that So I'm appreciating not reading that up Yes I never would I don't think anyone on this board would say that your Let's I don't think that's a message that that that's been given out. I understand you're very upset and Not that I don't I have never I have not personally heard that there has been a comparison That one time is refined and one town is One that says that stockage is full of knuckle dragging mouth breathers We're not we're not undefined. I mean this is a notice that the stockage is undefined Yes, I think the thing that the point that I wanted to finish with is I think it's very important That we remember in all these meetings that we are all here to solve a problem We are all here expecting that everyone has their best intentions That that we respect each other and that we understand that we're all trying to pull together to solve a problem And not to and and and not to exploit one side or put one side up or put one side down Except every time it goes in one direction it is pulled right back I I I'm sorry. You feel that way. I don't I don't I don't perceive that and I don't believe that many of the other committee members did But I think statements are passionate And passionate about what's going on shouldn't it about what's going on? It's not meant to be said that way, but sometimes it does feel like It gets a little us versus And what is what one place has the other place doesn't And I don't think that's anyone's intentions. I want to be really clear about that, but I do think that We're getting Don't Move forward Can you can you speak to that can you speak to that? That woman and have a recommendation for our meeting on the 23rd I know it's supposed to be mostly about budget, but if we could If you could if you could see you you've talked to her and she says you would have want to have a meeting Series of meetings that are structured like this. You're going to want to do that You don't want to get a consultant on board before you do that and here's a short list of consultants You should be talking to have your mediated conversation But just so that because what I'd really like to be able to do is at our at our February meeting Once we once we're you know, you've given us that information and we've on the 23rd We can maybe schedule when or start laying out how we're going to follow That that advice or what we're going to do because I I very much think that The the the building committee can't cannot do any more quality work with that document and our and the initial charge They're pretty much again how that refer comes out, you know, and its final form is is one thing But I really think the conversations that we got so mired in around choice around Of things like that You know, that's not what we are supposed to do We're supposed to look at it at a black river design report and analyze that so I think getting recommendations So we could have the community meetings So it would be good Sure, we'll put together those numbers can be used in our presentation because they're there Yeah, no, that's that's fine. I think What I got I believe so what I got out and correct me if I'm wrong What I got out was that We're the robber saying putting out the document or putting it into the minutes now Without having a conversation around it is just something that's going to be in flair a lot of Miss communication If we don't have and we have to have numbers wrote that's going to be the first thing that people will ask for They're not going to be correct that they'll they should be a bad part I think there's another document that's needed between this This document and the media public meeting something that's narrative to let people know the complexity of this and what the Sure deal is something that's uh, and we can we can we can craft that while we get information on how to have our community meetings But yeah, I agree with the the you know, I just don't want to release the information without an error I I think that I think that already Everything is is spinning as it is So I think trying to trying to put together a document that says that that that says what we needed to say And releasing it in advance of the public meeting is good I think we need to structure a public meeting and I think we need to figure out how to have that mediated conversation because You know given given the way that uh, you know, the the the committee members You know As you put it got passionate having someone there that can control the meeting and manage it and And and and deal with that and be neutral is I think important right so I think at this point the Is the building the building committee is Disbanded I think we need to still uh, we need to finish the narrative and and and with the numbers and put that together But yeah, I think the next step is to That discusses that discusses more than just You know the numbers that points out things that these numbers do not include The you know these numbers do not include More of a renovation plan. They include more of a expansion addition plan for example Um Remember We've been talking about a lot of people. No, I do not you know these numbers. We We do need something. Yeah, no, I agree But I think I think talking about the the questions about the school and all that Well, more the question is what direction we want do we want to go since we didn't find out anything that really said Uh-huh we need to go in this direction because this is way cheaper than going in this direction I think we need to find out What do we value? What do people want to do philosophically with our education? What do we want to see for the education of our which is a community conversation and not a building committee conversation, right? All right Sure Community Sure, she she we asked for that we asked for that two meetings ago The fuel oil for Rochester is 70,900 The structure is 5,300. So I think that that's really important numbered To give the addition to a renovation and that that's for right now Just the running of the building the running of what we're spending in Rochester currently for fuel So far I have a I have a beginning of a spreadsheet that does have the last historical years That we can work on to we should be able to pull out that information No, if anything it shows it shows, you know, the the the folly of running two buildings or what? You know heating an empty building In any meaningful direction without facts facts Absolutely some I want to say this just because I know I'm caring It was a good point. I'm sure some people are sitting there thinking 70,000 dollars in fuel oil in Rochester And it's not even halfway through the order. That's part of what some people think that's right What you need to understand is it's a 10,000 gallon fuel tank that was just filled up at the cost of 30,000 dollars So a little carry, but I'm not I'm not saying I'm just saying We have to have a full picture of what we're talking about so not just throwing numbers out so that we Great, so can we can we reach out to Tara and get and get those numbers so we can put them into the docket? No, I understanding the understanding monthly maintenance cash is good I have documents to to process that information great Okay, then um, let's move on to uh, belatedly the annual report committee How you guys doing down there? This is this is how I work So I we take it Two we have two directors One is clarity But this is a clear report To understand everything they're looking at and what it means And the second is education That we inform The people this should be a booklet that they can open up and they're going to learn about things like That the su budget is voted on in late december early january These are open meetings that you can go to the su meeting is Is a sped meeting of budget is usually voted out at the same time. These are things that I never knew Before I joined the school and we must be educated we must educate our policy I feel like the first thing is that when they open the book There should be a big Notice here saying the numbers we are voting on are on these color coded pages The numbers we are voting on are red on the red pages for the red Pages like that the yellow pages are budgets numbers that are already been voted on and are set So some very the su stuff like that a very user friendly Absolutely, yeah, but right at the beginning it should not start with the warning I think it should start with an explanation. I think you should also have a table of contents Page numbers so they because I remember last time, you know, we have That one But I would even rewrite them because they're a little confusing to me I just try to make it a lot more user friendly to really have the layperson to be able to really Understand what they're looking at what they're looking for From there trying to leave every page and I've taken a lot of this from what I remember Well, you said Rob every page says what it is Beyond just I know tuition projections. What does this mean? This is what we pay for each of these students to go to another school In this area students can go to any school They want all this kind of educational information that we I've learned over this time Where I need help and I think it's probably sitting down with Tara or Amy is Some of these pages what we're talking about percentages. This is Tara provides that page And it's all the percentages and where things come from and what is it but you want an explanation Yeah, these things these pages are deaf for us and they need to come out. Now, obviously we break down We want to put in description of what happens. We want to put in the description so that we know what it says Uh There's a big one here that's like a big huge number and it's like these are all the main teacher salaries It doesn't say that it's just a big number that suddenly says regular ed instruction Right, so this is the kind of thing we want to put in here again this page the Rochester Stockwood University estimated tax rate It's just good to put a little explanation on it Um, I think probably glossary it can't hurt it can't hurt to have more than you need great This the last thing I think that would be very useful of this is that when you turn I think there should be a clear demarcation that we are now into the supervisory and union Amount and there should be a title page that says from here on in we're dealing with different stuff And it's all That's going to be in a whole introduction to the supervisor union budget when it's voted on who votes on Because I never heard about a full board. I think he ought to put the statute in there Basically tells people how it needs to be loaded. I think that'd be useful just so they know there But then also more than the statue put it in normal language Um, so here's the other part. Um, I think we should have a map At the beginning of the su that actually shows what other schools are part of our This because I've had a lot of people don't know Yeah, but a lot of people have no idea what other schools are involved and then when you have these percentages F B F bud g hug, you know, whatever, um, they'll actually know what schools those are talking about Okay Um, sometimes I think it would be like because the su budget did increase if we could just get like a Just like kind of when we put our budget your budget into our budget Pamphlet it would be good to just kind of like this year we had increases because we hired the accountant to take care Yes, there is some of these why did this increase this much? Well, it's like because we have these costs that we really need to do We need really to spend money so we were more efficient in our work in the central office I mean just think it's something as simple as that to let them know like why that number Also, um, because I know this was confusing to me last day is suddenly we're seeing 4.6 percent increase in the Supervisor union budget nine percent increase or almost nine percent increase in the sped budget But then we're only asking for tuition like a three percent I mean, that's the kind of thing I'm going to notice and wonder wait. How is that possible? And I think we need to make sure and this will be the proofing of this once I have this Sort of marked up now one of the problems I see with this is that already these pages are pretty dense And if we're putting text On top of them, I'm not sure how I'm not sure how I'll just the layout of it's going to work Maybe we're going to have to have extra pages Well, I don't want to do this Because I like my notes everything you're asking for I had already written out and you know like that But we I wouldn't be able to budget Put that in there some people know that would be great Like it's oh my god 11 by 7 Well, I think and this isn't design it's a design issue that I think we maybe if we put extra pages in that will help But I do think you really need stuff that's right on the page Which means You know, we may have to send requests for some of these budgets to be slightly altered I mean, I don't know how small they can be before You know, we will know we have this much room for extra text on the su page because we can get it It's still the great agreeable. I think the the the big thing that that in my experience has always been that Every budget book is a is a last-minute thing from getting stuff from the business office in the past. It's always been I mean, oh what dated a few years ago that was you know, but So I think the big thing is what we need to figure out and you can think about we need to tell terror You need to give us the information These two budgets have been proved we can start building our book around those budgets and figure that out and I think Um I mean, I've done some design work. Oh, this is one thing Could you request from your teachers pictures? Yeah, um, just to start sending me like maybe edit and send me some great pictures for the cover again Because I'm happy to do the cover again, but I do think um Layout wise what I'm hoping is that by the by my goal is by next meeting Yeah, we would want to buy the next not the special meeting that February meeting we would have a layout of this Even rough pages and then we figure out how we design it Because I'm meeting Right. Yeah, right. Yeah. So we're looking for this to be mid-april This to be fully designed by me Well, you really have to be no you have to yeah, it has to go up with two weeks beforehand or 10 days It has to be 10 days I think it's always I also think it benefits us to get it out get it out as soon as possible You have the sheet that terrified you about Oh, yeah, I've got that. Yeah, I'm just I'm just This is how I work I went into pictures because I've seen um in world reports The people really need when you have a student art when kids actually oh, I'm happy I'm happy with that. I mean we did pictures last year. It was all about the unification two groups together Um, I would love to cover this whole thing with student art even the back So that might be an option. Sure. Sure. Absolutely and be creative be creative that way Sure, sure. Yeah, decide what you want. I mean, I'll do you borrow anything of that Do a combination of that make sense Um, well good, but I think that achieves I think that sounds really great I don't I don't have any further Yeah, I'm sorry, are you looking at it? Yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't really need to He's been in my dreams I want kids reading Reading, right Um, I think, yeah, I'm ordering Yeah, please Oh And in those graphics You showed last night that um, you should use them. Yeah, you should have them in the road somewhere And they'll be better by the time we get there. There you go. So, um, Definitely on bar graphs pie graphs anything like that we can use are so much easier to look at than Problems of numbers. So any place Bruce, I'm just incurring any place. We think Amy any place you look at a budget You think we can do a high chart high chart for the supervisory union Who's putting in how much money see how much Bethel is see how small our little part is that would be a very good visual I think that's really great Just you're saying as we're as we're going through stuff If we think that this is data that we feel could be Visualize better than let's try to Go down that avenue and get that information I think this is so useful. That would be so useful. Yeah, that would be great. That would be so useful I really want this I want I my standard is nothing less than a model of what annual report should be Yeah, that's great. And then you know that other people sort of go. What that's an annual report Nothing like this and it should be visual and engaging and free for people and they should leave educated Better educated which will make our jobs so much easier. I think that's great Yeah, that's great. That's wonderful. And maybe even get excited about our schools So Any six minutes just All right, uh You did 9.3 Yeah, she didn't show It was the one planet and And I didn't chat in the carry about what our intention was in that report versus How to make fun process Okay, four 9.4 generator Deedka, is that how you say his name or her name? Deedka or how do you say the person's name? The person that's giving us the generator Oh Two months ago last time Sorry, can I just do it for a second? I want to pass the chocolate pie again. I think we deserve a mold Okay, so okay, so she has been working community And Basically the generator has been inspected. It's bigger than what we would need So And how much um, we have to hire somebody to install it, right, which I don't know what that I would have to look back on that. Do we know the condition of that? Is it new? Inspection only used for one year Is this the this is from Caitlyn Right, right, but there was also there was also I got an email but I assumed it was the same generator from a woman named Deedka Fowler Saying an 8.5 kilowatt thing that she doesn't that They decided not to go the LP route at all. So they wanted donated or sell at a low price Yeah Okay Uh Okay, because this is this is an 8.5 kilowatt home generator Yeah Okay, and that sounds like So group side oh the work side brook field Yeah, so the the people that we were looking at the gen talking to about a generator have inspected this one And have given it a thumbs up You going to try to find somebody that can inspect it before you If you were to buy it Before you buy it Give you some feedback on whether it's worth that Yeah, well, I mean The maintenance here or the help us with all the uh gym shans I just see if you if if uh, he could take a look at it I think we also want to make sure that whatever we buy can actually fit into the electrical system In my The very previous lives of the school about a generator got it to the school generator passed inspection on it so who's good I can't explain this I can just tell you about The electrical system in the building could not receive the generator That would be good to know. Yeah So is brookfield service some a company that would install the a Uh used generator on our site? I honestly this is one of those Permission to move forward Yeah, I I in this place so could uh I I mean, I mean, what do we what do you what do you think our next step should be? All right, I guess the next step I'm asking where is permission to see how much it costs to be needed for those Sorry, I can't hear you Permission so here's my frustration. We tried gym shans and I tried to go through the grant process and got Nowhere Like this seems like really good Yeah, let's if you could if you could get us that information So we could we could we could we could do that and you know gym would probably Right That has that theoretically is we're starting with a quarter million dollar surplus and even if that surplus was Was some of the restricted funds the restricted funds were the place we were thinking about Paying for the the the generator all along If we're prepared to move we're prepared I think with the right with the They wanted us to go through the grant process that I haven't even approached The select board about this new deal The other trustee Not just the school It seems like it's a good price and if we can continue With the rest of the path that being as as good a price better than Brookfield See what the um That initial quote that we got I think we should continue to pursue it We just make sure we're crossing all of our t's and and everything like like um, Bonnie was saying The building to receive it or what additional work needs to be done for the for it to receive it and You know the we're going to need to pad down for it, you know, like by the time we get all that done Um, are we still less than what? my only one would be Yeah, the um, Brookfield's one that we were looking at was um, 48 right A lot for for 28 A year So why don't we move forward? I was expecting 20 years or something like that. Can you make a motion that says we'd like you to move forward? Ending this this this and this and those things check out Yeah, yeah, I'll make a motion so that sure but wait anymore To move forward Uh, do we need do we need to identify the funding source at this point? No, okay We've discussed that there was potential funding sources that So I'll make a motion Die first, um, I'll make a motion to instruct the generator committee The administration Give me a committee you can make teachers the generator committee to Pursue purchase or Pursue purchase of a used generator pending pending approval by the installers or something like that pending confirmation of the the inspection of the unit and And uh compatibility compatibility with our electrical system and And the price of installation All right a motion has been made and seconded and we would love it if you could report back out to us on the 23rd By the way, can I just take a quick moment? Let me money. Can we just acknowledge Jenny, please? Oh So as we're discussing items, we have no we have no action items. We have our Second public comment session. Does the public have anything more to say? Sure, thank you Sure Um, all right Uh, okay The board is going to go into uh executive session to to discuss a personnel man. Let me just ask one quick question Sure. Does anybody have any idea if there are laws about I know there's has to be about what it includes But there's probably some laws about what these things have to be, right? There has to have and has to have the warning in it that which is like that first page So warning Does it know where it has to be or anything like that? Uh, and it's be provided to all residents within 10 days of the There's not a lot of restrictions I I thought Yeah, we're finished project. So because if you're going to mail them out, they're giving them an idea Right. So this has been compared to our town and what you're going to sound like you're going to have a lot bigger city Yeah Five years of town reports in my office that you could look through and get some ideas about what's good What a new round here The the secretary of state Uh, the the remote secretary of state is the the person that manages all that kind of stuff Um, and I recall vaguely seeing something there or in the Vermont league of city in towns That kind of talked about what should be in your annual report booklet And I think probably that'll that'll have tips and tricks as well as statutory requirements But like I said, I'm pretty sure it was on the secretary of state's page Uh, and they have a place you can find some information. I'm sure is the Vermont school board association I'm sure they got a little module on any new report Uh, and to uh, Joanne's point about the weight of it I believe you have a copy of this from previous years, which is Basically the receipt of what it costs to send our To send it out And if this was not that report This was the report before in in 18 and it was um, point two five four five pounds And they sent out seven so 700 pieces the total weight of all that we sent was on 171 pounds Then it was 210 dollars Just so you know that it And that was probably walking weight What there's way this is nothing to do with the printing. This is The cost of mail Of the cost of spawning to print it. I have that that's separate. This is just the cost of mailing the the actual mailing of it There is of course the additional Postal permit we have to make sure is up to date or it's annually. I have to renew it Which also I think answers your question about I thank you Okay um, all right That was I guess item 12 other so now the board is going to go into executive session to uh, to uh, hear a personnel matter We will be adjourning when we come out from that our next meeting is uh, there's a meeting a special meeting on January 23rd at 6 30 here at Stockbridge central school The next regular meeting of the of the Rochester Stockbridge unified district is February 4th at the Rochester campus at 6 30 Thank you very much for watching. Good night