 All right, I'm Mark Collier with the OpenStack Foundation. I've got with me today Brett Piat, who's the CEO of Jungle Disc. Now Brett was not only involved in the creation of OpenStack back when we were both at Rackspace together, he also planned and organized the very first OpenStack Summit in Austin six years ago. So we wanted to check in with Brett and see if anything's really changed in the last six years. Yeah, so I'm sitting here with Mark doing the super user interview now. We're running at Jungle Disc and OpenStack Swift cluster that's larger than I think all of the deployments in the world at that point. And I'm sitting in the lobby of the OpenStack Summit here in Austin now, and I see more people in the lobby than we're at that entire first summit. So only a couple of changes. Yeah, we probably actually have more people employed in the video crews than we had at the summit. So there were 75 people at the first summit. So I guess we were about 5%. I'm not good with math at this point in the morning. So yeah, amazing. 75 people, now we have 7,500. Actually, breaking news, we actually had 7,800 people register. They kept flowing in after we made some slides. So I guess we'll break that news here. So your late registrations were four times the size of the original summit. Yeah, it's kind of insane. It's kind of insane. So we were just talking a minute ago. You were kind of worried, OK, all these new people coming in, are they actually going to be real stackers? Are they going to be boring business people, or what do you think? Yeah, so I'm looking around. And as I've been hanging out here, it looks like people that are all still hands on, working with the project, trying to use OpenStack to solve real problems. And from the keynote this week, it's not just people trying to use it to solve real problems, but there's a whole bunch of big businesses that are out there running a ton of production stuff, jungle-disconcluded on OpenStack these days. Very cool. So Brett and I worked at Rackspace together. We were part of the crew that kind of got OpenStack going. Now you've left Rackspace and you bought Jungle-Disk, which was a company Rackspace that had previously acquired. Kind of you took it back out of the Rackspace wall, so now you're the CEO over there. So what does Jungle-Disk do in case people are looking for something in the disk area? In the disk area. So Jungle-Disk does data threat protection for main street businesses. So these are the kind of two to 250 employee businesses out there, doctor's offices, small law firms, medical practices, accountants, financial advisors, those sorts of folks that need to encrypt, keep their data safe, protect their network from ransomware and all the things that are starting to go on out there kind of cyber-criminal-wise these days. Very cool. So you're very on message. I can tell you're like Mr. CEO now. Back in the day, Brett was just the guy that did everything that behind the scenes that made OpenStack happen. And now he's like, he's all grown up. So I'm really excited by what you're doing over there at Jungle-Disk. So I'm glad you're able to come back to another summit. You've actually been to several summits, but since you've been off doing other stuff, probably haven't been in a while, but Austin bringing it back here has been really, really exciting. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm glad you guys could come back here and judging at the rate of growth, you guys may take over the city and if you keep doing the summit here, they'll be talking about the OpenStack Summit week instead of South by Southwest in Austin soon. I've heard of that, South by Southwest. Yeah. Well, we've been trying to keep the pace. I mean, we've got the whole convention center here filled up, plus the Hilton across the street, plus the JW Marriott, which the JW Marriott didn't even exist when we did the first OpenStack Summit. No, it didn't. It was actually my favorite restaurant downtown, Las Monitas, and I'm actually a little conflicted that we're giving money to the JW Marriott because they tore down my beloved, the best guacamole in Austin. But, you know, my granddad always said you can't stop progress. So, you know, the JW Marriott's actually really nice. It's just a shame that we had to give up our guacamole for it. Yes. So that's a little side note. But what else are you interested in on the OpenStack side? You utilize Swift at a massive scale. So are you able to connect with other Swift users here? Yeah, I've been talking with some of the folks that are using Swift at scale, talking about different things that we can do to make sure that we're operating it in a way that provides reliability for our customers because our folks are doing data backup with us. So making sure that we're keeping things safe inside that Swift cluster are important. But we're doing more than just that with OpenStack. So we're using Magnum. Oh, really? I didn't know that. So we have an elk cluster for the techie people in our audience will know that. Elk stack. Yes, the elk stack. So running on top of Magnum, and we use that to feed a bunch of data and to do analysis, check for reliability across our services. So we feed a bunch of log information in there, hence log stash, and then search that, present it up for our ops team and our customer teams to be able to make sure that things stay safe for our customers. Very cool, very cool. So, jungle disk, is that in space? Excuse me, in San Antonio? Yeah, we're headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. And for us being a data security related company, San Antonio is an ideal location as it's the kind of operational headquarters for the US military cyber security. So we've got a deep, rich security community in San Antonio and that helps us out at jungle disk. You know, one of the things I've learned is to approach it for you, for you viewers out there, is that anytime you talk to a company, you can tell if they work with the government if they use the word cyber. Because the government's the only one that actually says cyber. Yes. So, you know, except for, you know, sci-fi novelist from like 30 years ago, but I can tell you must have deep, secret government customers if you're talking about cyber stuff. Well, no jungle disk does not do government services. But being in San Antonio and with the cyber command headquarters there, I get to use the word cyber, because that's how they talk about themselves. A lot of the actual practitioners there don't like the cyber word either. But for their bosses to be able to differentiate between cyber and the rest of the services, that's how they sorted out. So, they're sort of stuck with that word. Well, that's good. I mean, we talk a lot about words in the open stack because there's always a debate about that stuff. So, the first one, the first summit was at the Omni Hotel. Yes. And did we have like five floors or how much did we rent out? You actually negotiated the contract with the Omni as I recall. Not because you were in charge of hotel contracts at Rackspace, it was just, we had a tiny, tiny, tiny team. And everybody just did whatever it took to get things going. So, how many rooms did we have over there? So, we had one main event space, which was, I'm gonna say about 3,000 square feet. And then we had- Like the size of your house. Yeah, four overflow and sort of breakout session rooms that were probably 200 to 300 square foot each. How many square feet are you guys using this week? I have no idea. This lobby here is bigger, like looking straight down the lobby here is bigger than our entire main event room was for the first time. Oh yeah. Yeah, so there's more hallway space here than there was event space. We had, if you've been to the Omni Hotel in Austin, it's up on what, eighth or ninth street? Yep. Yeah, and if you walk in there, there's an atrium. And then inside the atrium, you can look up on the second floor and the kind of event space wraps around there a little bit. We basically had half of that event space up on the second floor at the Omni. For anyone this week that wants to go take a walk and look over there, it's not as grand as you might think it was. Yeah, I mean, just the amount that Austin's changed in six years is incredible. I mean, the Omni was a fairly kind of big hotel and big building in Austin six years ago. Now it's dwarfed by all these massive condos and hotels and stuff. So last question, you're here in Austin. I'm sure you're aware that Austin has better Tex-Mex than San Antonio. So are you looking forward to eating anything in particular while you're in town? I had torches for breakfast today. Okay, torches for breakfast. You know, the president of the United States had torches a few weeks ago right here in Austin. So you're in good company. We're not gonna talk politics, but we will talk tacos. We will talk tacos. Yeah, that was a good decision by the president there to go to torches. So he's gonna stop at a taco place in Austin. Torches is legit. All right, thanks, Brett. Thank you, Mark. It's been awesome catching up and good luck at Jungle Disc. And I'm glad that you're still using OpenStack in your new role. Absolutely, yeah. We're looking forward to running a business for the future all based on this project because six years in, we still have a long way to grow and go. Awesome. Thanks, Brett. Thank you.