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Wow, that's really what they call me Remember the other day we were coming up with stripper names for each other. What do we say that? I? Justin was a pound cake Welcome to the stage honey pot or toy or toy toy toy boy or what that was that was That was boy toy. Yeah, boy. So you're like cinnamon tits or something. He called me cinnamon Schaefer And you were synergy synergy Sal. Yeah, here comes synergy Gee, I don't know why I'm synergy, but it makes me do this right here Yours is the least stripper it is. I don't have I like pound cake and boy toy I mean I get straight to the business. Yeah, I feel like maybe honey pot Sal is for you I like honey pot. I just feel like that's a you're more like a honey pot Honey pot. I'm cake is appropriate because I feel like if Justin left That's about as accurate as it gets right there because if you do the lap dance you'd be the one that breaks the chair Suzy walked out to stage I'm just clapping Not with your hands. What would you be a special move like everybody has a special move? What is your just special the jackhammer just pound you to the wall All right, let's start to show that's hard to show Huh we talk about fitness we do all right, that's okay. We're gonna keep that in Doug But we will talk about fitness actually. I was gonna ask you guys a question Do you guys have an exercise that has been your favorite since you first started working out? Oh? Good question. You know like a favorite exercise like one exercise that you just you loved when you were younger You still love today. Well, I mean, it's I'm so typical, but it's gotta be benched. Yeah. Yeah our overhead press Those are my homies. You know what from day one forever. This is never stop I don't know if I maybe Preach your curls because I have to say most of the things I actually love today. I hate it before That's true story like a lot of the the train that like I love deadlifting and squawks now I dreaded those yeah growing up. I never did them I've never been a big fan of bench press. It's always been a challenging exercise for me. I I liked rose and I still like rose so that maybe that I like heavy rose I got I got really good when I was younger at like rowing really good I was you know what it is. It's always what you're good at I know the first time I grabbed a seated row. I could do decent weight I was rose to love. Oh, yeah from day one barbell dumbbell row. Yeah I could get down with yeah, you dumbbell row seated row. I could pull I found that out really early I could see I hated you know the first time I'm gonna forgive the first time remember the gym everything I was out when my buddy showed me a dip never even seen a dip as a Tricep building exercise until this moment He hops up there and he gets I think he pumped out like 10 real quick and I couldn't do one Hmm. I couldn't do one body weight dip and I probably weighed about 170 pounds at that time It was wasn't very heavy But I yeah, it was hard dips were dips were hard first time I did dips was at a park You know they have sometimes they have those bars that are to each other bars and there's like these Like fitness tests sometimes in these parks where you know like one of them is you have to walk across the bars with your arms Have you seen these they'll have like a picture next to the apparatus like they'll have the the wood plank Where you can do sit-up and you can tell that it's for the school. It's usually at a school Yeah, yeah, totally and there was one where there were two bars There were parallel to each other and you were supposed to walk across them Yeah, and that's the first time I ever tried doing dips Yeah, and I never felt dips where I was supposed to early on I felt in my triceps never could really feel in my chest Later on I so I gave up on them for chess. I do them for triceps sometimes I had a buddy who said if you lean forward You'll feel it more in your chest and one way that I did this was I would hang a chain over my neck This is way before you saw a bodybuilder is doing this. This was something actually never mind Way bodybuilders did do this back in the day So I did I put a chain over in my neck and it made me lean forward more and I was like, oh This is a different so okay when you do dips both of you this question when you do dips Do you typically do it for your chest or on chest a or do you normally do it for triceps in the past? It was triceps now if you see me doing dips, it'll be on a chest a and you like both. Yeah, yeah Yeah, but which one more are you like because I lean one way more though. Oh, yeah, probably more on arms Yeah, me too. Yeah, I even though it can totally agree. It could be a very good Like where it'll be on chest a for me is like if I if I don't like to decline flies or I don't feel like doing a decline At the end. Yeah, exactly I don't feel like doing a decline press or some of that then and by that time at the end of the workout I'll be pretty tax and the way the weight is enough to probably super sitting bench with dips. Oh My god, it would just blow me. You know what else is a good super set Fly to dips try that out bet. Yeah pre-exhaust your chest then go to dips You'll feel that flare the air elbows out to hit more chest lean forward And then when you come up squeeze like you're doing a cable crossover What a great cue and video for Andrew right there You know talking about I always forget these little nuggets for YouTube videos These are always the videos that do the best I don't think we've ever done that how to make a dip better for chest how to make a dip better for triceps That advice right there is is clutch So if you're doing it for more chest flaring the elbows and leaning forward way more chest activation and deep right real real deep elbows flared and leaning forward and Less emphasis on the lockout and extension opposite true for triceps lean up lean back a little bit elbows tucked in Most the emphasis on the complete flexion extension portion of it. So yeah, it's a good time It's also a good exercise. You can load with bands So you could put a band around yourself like around your neck, maybe attach it to a heavy dumbbell underneath you We did you just say put a band around your neck around the back of your neck? I'm not doing some weird, you know a dumb And then you anchor it on a heavy dumbbell. Oh, I have never you've done that. Yeah. Yeah, so it's it's a band resistance Yeah, I get I get so you get the picture. Yeah, what it is Yeah, I just had never seen anyone do that And I've never thought to put a band around my neck and then hang a dumbbell I mean typically use bands for assistance in that situation. Yeah, let's not do one of those videos Andrew actually will skip that Bad if you set it up, right? I've done it before. Yeah, it's pretty yeah. No, it's good I don't I don't think I've ever seen that band loading Machines weights whatever it gives you a completely different feel totally different feel when you put bands on anything you Well, you've said it before on the podcast and I agree with this is that and it's why the trigger sessions I find so effective in the programs is that it doesn't seem to do as much damage. Yes Yeah, 100% so like if I because it's that progressive resistance that it provides, right? Because when you take a band the further you stretch it out the heart of the resistance gets right? So if you're doing a bench press and you put bands on top of the weight that you're lifting It's lighter at the bottom harder. It increases at the most intense part of the strength Yes, now you can do this with chains to right because chains as at the bottom more of the chain is on the floor You're lifting less weight as you lift the links come off the floor and it gets heavier So it's supposed to be similar but chains wreck my body way more than bands do way more We're more clunky, you know using them, but yeah, I do enjoy using I like using Chains, I think more like dead lifts or like sometimes we use it with squats, but even I still prefer bands I think I do I do now have you ever tried this with chains and this can be get real fun It's complicated. It's kind of a pain in the butt to set up But you can set up chains so that it's got stages of dramatic increases in weight So in other words, you have to measure it and it's a bit of a pain in the ass But you get a long chain so like bunch them up. So yeah, so you're so yes So at the bottom it's light then you hit a certain point and then it picks up a weight with the chain It gets real heavy, but then it's then that's it and then another one comes up So you get like these like it's stages of heavier and heavier way to do that. Yeah, it feels really good Oh, it's I love I love squatting with chains squaring chains one of my favorite to do deadly with chains Not so much because the dump the weights always hit the chain. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's annoying. Yes I rather deadlift with bands. I love it. I love deadlifting with bands And by the way, we're saying that right doesn't mean I do that all the time I think that's I do it maybe once a month. Yeah, I tend to do that with like light dead less So I'm working more on just speed. Yeah with that, but yeah, I do like to throw them on every one Hey, so I had a old man moment you ever catch yourself doing something and you're like, well, yep This is means I'm old now. So, you know, we're moving, right? We're moving into new place Yeah, and so I can't find anything So I'm looking for stuff and I'm like, oh, where's this and I got so excited because I found something that I really wanted It was my nose hair trimmers I literally got so pumped. Oh, there they are. I really needed these bad now Did your wife buy those for you or am I just the only one that Always like, okay, here's your present because you don't ever do this really she buy that hygiene stuff I don't know what it is about Once as a man like over once you hit like 35. I think it is The hair in your nose and your ears goes turbo all of a sudden It grows like you become a wolf It's the it's crazy and now we're are you guys the type that you remember seeing like your grandfather or somebody Who's like in their 70s and they've got the hair like growing on their ears and way other knows and you saw them I'll never they happen to me or you are you the type they're like, I went on 70. Fuck it. Whatever Where do you where are you at and I almost don't care. I'm the latter. So who knows when I'm gonna be 70 I'm definitely not gonna give oh, yes. Yeah, I've cared always so I'm I could treat I never had to give me that stuff. I was already on it. I remember the first time like I saw it I can't remember what I was doing Oh the sun like hit it just rather like looked at the reflection of the mirror and like the car or something like that like looking and look cars behind me and I think I saw like Fuzzy ears or something You know annoying to me I had fuzzy ears Yeah, exactly like like Courtney just started pointing out that I have like new hairs on my back And I'm like, I can't see it. So I had no idea and she's just like no you have I'm like, no It's probably like peach fuzz. I've never had hair in my bag. No, it's like music And then she'll just start like doing this and like Feeling it there and I could feel it. I'm like, oh no like it's happening I mean I'm becoming a beast. Well, so here's a little like this has got to be evolutionary, but This is my experience women love pulling out random hairs and squeezing shit out of your skin. Yeah, this is literally I'm not exaggerating. It's primal, dude. This is one of Jessica's favorite things to do in life It's our favorite thing. Look at dr. Pimple Popper. Oh, like so I can't watch that. It blew up Millions of people viewing it right has her own like tv show now also is like Explode these disgusting puss bags. Oh, so weird. Jessica loves that You know what I think is weird about that is that My girl is disgusted by so many like other random things and I find that so repulsive They get like really like that is like if like you looked over me like hey bro Could you get this pimple on my back real quick the hell I would that throw up in my mouth That is 100 that would destroy our relationship even more so if like Justin went and did it for you and I'm watching Here bro, I got you We're really good friends. That would be one thing that would probably destroy our friendship If you squeeze the pimple between that interlocking toes I gotta set standards. I might do that just to mess with you, but I I do I find it weird that other things like are repulsive to her But then something like that is just it's totally dude. She did that the other day I was I had my shirt off and she goes oh you've got some like blackheads on your back and stuff Let me get them for you Can I please do and I'm like no because it's fucking hurts dude You pull shit out you pull hairs out it hurts Don't be fit to baby. Who cares so I'm like fine. I'll let you do this And I'm watching tv and I swear to god for an hour She's having a great time at some point. I tell her stop. Yeah, dude I'm like, can you stop? It's hurting me and she's like telling me like this like please like almost my hands are tired. I'm gonna use my mouth now Too much It makes me think of Monkeys you ever seen monkeys doing the Yeah, I'm like she's on my back and I'm like, what are you doing? Why are you so excited about this? Yeah, but I have like with my kids because like we live in the woods I'm always looking for ticks and stuff But I've found a few like that we're just like scurrying You know I grabbed like so I've been able to find a few of those which was satisfying Oh kill all the stupid things. What's that conspiracy theory about ticks that they there's a conspiracy Yeah, of course there is Yes, it was on it's somewhere. I think off the the east coast like I don't know new jersey kind of area where um, I don't know what the conspiracy Completely it describes but that basically it started You know some kind of it transferred over into these ticks and then they got out from, uh, you know, Okay, what's the what is the conspiracy? What's the what's the disease you get lime lime lime disease that lime was was creating a lab was a conspiracy It was weaponized Yeah, and they they tried to isolate these ticks on an island to test it out And they got to the mainland and the reason why we have lime disease is because oh It spread out because the animals, you know, and now You guys read enough about this that it's got a very compelling story behind it Or is it like if you trace it back you see a pretty condensed Amount of cases, you know starting in the east coast, but I mean again It's lime disease lime disease on plum island fringe conspiracy theory or government Government cover up. Yeah, you be the judge Interesting. Yeah, there's actually a website called tick tock What? I didn't even see that so clever Oh my god, I see what you tick is in TICK talk How many times like so many finds their way onto this website, right? They're just like, where's all the dancing? It's bullshit. It's bullshit. I Okay, do you think I I'm I am very fascinated by by the the tick tock movement or whatever By the way, my dad says ticks wrong. He says tits. Just f1. Yeah, you'll be like You got any tits on you? Oh, we'll go hiking. You'll be like, hey, hey kids, be careful for the tits Just tits out and I'll be laughing I'll be like, we've got your teenage boy No, no, I can find tits No, that the this tick tock phenomenon right is Do you think we're gonna look back in 20 years and like this is gonna be one of those things that we kind of Laugh about ourselves as like a society that this was like this bro, you know You know what it is. It's like it's line dancing, but now like accessible to everybody Like it's the same formula you saw going to weddings where you get the stupid chicken dance And everybody like just Because it's all prescribed for them. They have like really like really cheesy moves that they're all Yeah, but they also sing along to songs. They'll have a song and they don't sing They'll they'll sing and lip sync. Well, that's what I mean Yeah, most popular thing though on there. I think or I actually can be totally wrong But I'm I assume the most popular thing that's on there from what I see that goes viral back on the IG Because I'm on there more is the videos of dancing like a A new song comes out or a catchy tune It's popular because someone may puts a little cool dance routine together That one person's video goes viral enough that everybody jumps on board and does the same thing I mean, is that what is going on hilarious? Have you been to the beach like every time at the beach there's some group of girls Like doing some like weird, you know, either booty or like weird like organized thing with a I've seen it in the mall I'm walking in the store through mall. I'm just I'm cutting through macy's and there's like Normal now to see that four or five girls, you know getting their phone Propped up on the little shelf of jeans or what about that and then all four of them like no no no wait No, that was too early. God. Yeah On this guy. Wait. Wait. You didn't say go yet. You know, I'm just like everybody to work Yeah, what a time to be a teenage boy. I'll tell you as a as a father. I'm just discussing what you guys doing My point of asking you guys is is this something that will become a part of our culture forever? Is it a like to Justin's point? Is it something that's always been a part of our culture that it's just morphed into something? Well, let me ask you this I think let me ask you this If you could watch or listen to an audio back then audio cassette or a vhs of you Doing some shit in front of the camera at the age of 14 and you watch it now as an adult Would you be embarrassed or would you be like that's cool? Yeah, be embarrassed of course they're going to be embarrassed to shit guarantee You're always embarrassed is it when you grow up everything you do is a teenager on camera if you record it? Thank god Five years ago this podcast I was watching that show remember the one you brought up about like all the musicians and they're kind of going into I think it was like nick Lachey or whatever one of the guys that was in like 98 degrees or whatever. Oh, yeah, the 90s Lashay I know all about it Boy, you're quick on that. I have his poster. He was quick on the rihanna call earlier today No, nick Lashay was married to uh, jessica simpson Okay, but they were they were like they sat him down and they were showing him like pictures of like his outfits And he was just like he was like, oh god like he was so mortified, you know, that's exactly how I would have been I know so if you can look at like today like what are the things as a society that will look back and be mortified of like You look back and you go like that is just all that tick tock bullshit all of it. Oh, oh everyone none of it is Yeah, like I would be proud of that's okay So that doesn't really shock me that you know kids are doing stuff like that's just kids have done that forever Just now we have this media platform. Hey, it ain't all kids anymore. Well, there you go That's the part. That's the most cringe. That's the cringe thing when I see the 40-something year old person who's trying to sell their business or whatever They're doing the thing and I'm like you're 45 years old Brenda Come on, you're a you're a you're always a Brenda. You're a health professional You don't need to be selling off tick tock like that Oh, yeah Well, that you know the the knock that I because I we've said this before and I actually always get I do get DMs when we when we cover this And uh, I don't know if I shared this on the podcast remember we had that we had a meeting with a potential Partnership investing company thing that we were gonna do. Oh, I love this. Yeah, and we were in this meeting There's a there's a it's a big boardroom meeting and there's I mean we're talking numbers and production I'm talking to a guy who's a multi multi millionaire partnered Talking in the room. Also is Jen co-an who we have a lot of respect for her She's very very successful smart girl and we're having this kind of deep kind of business talk and going back and forth Like you said numbers and shit like that and there's a girl all the way in the back of the table And she's obviously kind of ear hustling a little bit works for somebody in the in the room And then she slides in About 20 minutes in the conversation and starts like grilling me about how many tiktok followers you have Yeah, yeah, I mean tiktok followers we have And it was kind of like that I kind of had this like snarky response of this like She really just side-bust this conversation and asked me about tiktok like for real because it's such a good conversion Oh man and she kept going around and I was just like oh, but you know what that this the Generation coming up what you see or that you see is that you and by the way our generation the older generation The you know the brand does like you said are falling for it thinking that oh my god followers because you get eyes and views Yes, it doesn't mean right it doesn't always mean jack right followers and views Can mean nothing you could have all these people watching you and it convert to zero Yeah, and for the people that are shaking their head that can't they don't understand what i'm saying right now And the point I made to this girl was like I would rather have Five new emails than one million tiktok followers Literally, that's how would a discrepancy that the two are as far as how well they convert for your business It's just a bunch of people looky lose that are looking at you because you do a funny dance or something together Yeah, is is not is not a valued customer now. Is it possible that you can get a leave from that? I'm not saying that I can't turn into a lead you but of all the things that you can do within your business And that was what I had to end up speaking to this girl is like listen There's a there's a lot of things i'm not doing there's a lot of things we could be doing better But I'll tell you right now tiktok does not even scratch the top 50 of priorities for us to get better at and just The the leads that you get from that in comparison to spending a little more time I mean we can I can spend one hour and create another podcast episode That will 10x anything that that tiktok could do or I could you could write a white paper That's that we can give away for free with a blog attached that will get out and see You know that will take three two or three hours of your time That will generate x amount of leads and revenue for the next five years that will trump Thousands of people that you gain on so the time and effort you put into doing that and so But there's this because the platform is growing and is so popular It's it's become this thing that everybody thinks they need to do Yeah, both my kids like I took my phone and they're trying to like, you know message Courtney for something and They didn't realize like I've done a few of them right and we've done some for the business for the tiktok And they're like you have tiktok. They've made they still make fun of me And I'm like I'm actually like yeah, thank you I'm proud that you guys are making fun of me for this because it's now I do know that there's I mean there's people that are you can do making a lot of money You can do it, but you have to have that attitude of it's not about followers and viewers necessarily But how do you're an entertainer? How do I turn this into a business? There's that famous case of that girl that had X amount of millions of followers on instagram She released the t-shirt line thinking she was going to make a ton of money. I think she sold five That's it. You know, but even though she had a million followers or half a million followers She had like two million. I remember I know you're talking about remember that story that we shared that on the Yeah, it's just speaking of selling so we got we did an episode earlier where somebody called in live And we got such a great piece of feedback and compliment something that we Value quite a bit. So this particular individual said to us that they Appreciate so recently, right? There was a workout video that we posted where I was working out in it And really it's the first it's the actually it's the first video. I think that we've ever posted where we're actually showing Us working out showing our physique. So, you know doing that kind of stuff And this is after being in business for seven years and we talk about how we really didn't want to and we don't want to sell fitness That way we're not trying to sell fitness by showing bodies by showing how rad we are how cool we are because It's the wrong way to sell fitness. It's part of the problem of the fitness industry And from a business standpoint, it has very little staying power. It's got very it's very low sustainability I'm only gonna it's fleeting. You're very fleeting, right? And our goal was we want to sell fitness and so he said what the person said was I appreciate the way you guys sell fitness because he was somebody that was obese like over 400 pounds and he says and I could connect with you guys I didn't feel turned off because you guys you guys sold fitness through information Or make him feel insecure because he's so far away from where we're currently at Oh, what a great piece what a great piece of feedback because that's a hundred percent what it is from a business standpoint There's way more sustainability in being able to sell your ideas and communicate and educate and talk about topics In ways that gets people to understand Because that lasts forever. It's got real value versus the look at me Look how ripped I am. How cool I look. It's all flashing the pale. Yes And and that's again the even before and afters like We sell fitness programs like you ask us how many times we've used Even though we have thousands of before and afters that people send us all the time. I get dms all the time Do we ever use before and afters to sell our programs? Yeah, everybody everybody by the way, too That's in marketing field right now is cringing of course Even our own marketing team They hammer us all the time for it. Yeah, now that's not to say that we might not We'll never use before and afters but the reason why we we stay away. We don't want to build it off of that Let's put it that way. Exactly. Correct because it's the wrong Message it points to the wrong kind of bad aspects Of the fitness space and we wanted to build it off of you know, good information Which again going back to what you're saying about you know media and all that stuff If you you got to think it's like fitness you have to think sustainability Because you know making money and the short term is one thing Building a business that lasts a long time. That's my point to these the the people that challenged us They would tick tock and things like that. I was like Uh, even if it did let's just let's play the game that you know, okay We we take a hard turn we start putting a lot of energy towards these tick tock videos to gain these followers It starts to generate let's say ten thousand dollars a month Which would be an incredible revenue stream that we didn't have that all sudden we have now From this it's generating that many leads I I don't want to have to Do a dance on on tick tock For the rest for the rest of this business's life in order to generate that revenue and keep those leads coming in I have no desire that would be the ultimate like a version of dance monkey dance And we see this really what it is we see this YouTube space is really popular with this and I see a lot of the a lot of fitness Influencers that were started like were that were that were at the very beginning, right? And they they rode the youtube wave and have had a lot of success I see them all have gone through a time of depression or off youtube for a while and and you can see that they Are so torn between oh my god Like I know that if I make these videos it generates a tremendous amount of money for me And for a long time that was a lot of fun and I enjoyed scaling and the growing of the business But i'm tired now and it's old and the pressure to Keep up this look and the pressure to always be on and to be presenting myself this way all the time every day In order just to keep the the dollars coming in what a Not a business model. I want you know when I think it would work is when that's your authentic self You you're somebody that dances all the time anyway, just do it because you really enjoy it That's who you are right then I could see it working But oftentimes it's not authentic now speaking of dollars and money So you guys know obviously bezos is the first billionaire in space right got on his rocket. You guys saw his rocket The penis rocket or whatever. Yeah, there's all these like comparisons to dr evils spaceship that went up and all that So as Just like you know clockwork the outrage. Oh, this is why we should tax billionaire so much How dare he spend so much money just so he can go into space You know how frustratingly annoying this is People are so outraged over somebody spending their own money What do you expect billionaires to do and nobody says really? I don't see anybody giving a shit that we spend trillions of dollars dropping bombs Overseas on people who are hiding in caves and that's our money that were so inconsistent the thought process Yeah, nobody cares about that But this guy spends his own money to go to space everybody's so pissed off You know the first thing that came to mind for me when I saw this space race going on right now because it wasn't just him Right. So did uh, uh, Richard Branson Branson. Yes. He went up also, right? Yeah in another one. Did Elon go up yet? No, he's right. So we get this whole I have a feeling Elon's gonna like he's gonna do something. He'll do something crazy Now the thing that I that I'm so interested to hear as far as what happens over the next six months of a year We're because they're going up there with average Well, not average billion other billionaires who can afford to go up there and stuff But normal people not NASA people or people that work for the government So what's gonna happen all the flat earthers Their conspiracy is about to go completely gone because up at this point If I know if I mean correct me if I'm wrong because you guys are more of the conspiracy theory experts over here I mean, it's all based on that. It's this government conspiracy and NASA has has been it won't do shit Well, I know oh, you don't think it'll you know explode it No, because the conspiracy is literally governments monarchies rich people Corporations you can tell them anything and they'll just say that yeah I mean an 18 year old boy went up with this last one So you mean to tell me that this kid's in on the conspiracy and he's going to you're trying to apply logic Oh, so this is not gonna work to the people that were actually there. I looked this up There was I believe there was a woman who originally was trying to become an astronaut like back in I don't know 60s or whatever, but uh was actually went on that for the first uh flight She's like 80 something years old now, uh and was able to actually live out her dream of being able to go Space which is really cool. Wow. That's really awesome. That's rad. No, this is cool. This is interesting to watch There was this funny meme that says that Jeff Bezos's ex-wife has the best divorce in history She left with 50 billion dollars and her ex-husband left earth. She's like That's so good. Yeah, that's pretty good. Is that her right there? Yeah, what's your name, Doug? Wow, she looks amazing. So did you guys look up? We were talking off air about this yesterday and uh, I made the comment that I heard it was a 11 minute trip Yeah, they just touched space and anyone confirmed that did you guys know if that was true or not? I thought that was that sounds way too quick way fast Even if they just went just going up touch space and then come back down Or maybe it was just 11 minutes to get up and then whatever time it took to give But 11 minutes round trip that sounds crazy. No, I have no idea But I mean, I don't I know they just went into or they basically went out of the atmosphere and back down So that counts So who are you guys? Who are you guys rooting for of the three to have the most success with their space? Yeah Elon, I'm a big Richard Branson guy. That's my dude. Elon Musk is my dude. I'm a big Richard Branson guy I like him a lot dude. He's he's cool. He's real. I like him too. Yeah, he's real cool Yeah, they all they all have their Jumped off sky died off a building. I think when he went when he bought out, uh, what went cell phone company by our Whatever, I believe it was the cell phone company with this program. He's bought so many companies Right, I think it was with the cell phone one and to launch that like he he jumped off of a building naked So, why would you do that naked? Because it's awesome Like who does Yeah All right, who would who out of jeff bezos uh brand that was the name Richard Branson Elon musk who would you rather smoke a joint with? Richard Branson still the reason why too is because uh bezos because he does Of the three, although I I mean, I'm probably so different than those guys and and have very little in common with them I feel like Richard Branson of the three Is the the coolest most down-to-earth or the one I would be able to connect with the most elan That's why I'd want to smoke a joint as cool as elan is and because I like elan musk a lot too Right, and I would love to just sit there and absorb whatever you had to say, right? I would throw a weird shit Yeah, I mean I would I would love to sit in a room with any of them Right, they would all be on the top 10 list of guests for sure Yeah Richard Branson seems to be the the coolest to me that and the most down-to-earth for it He looks like he's having the most fun. Yeah, I'll give you that Yeah, the stuff that he does with his company is like his ideas like I mean I mean you guys I love virgin airways too like yeah, yeah Like his is do you remember what he did that? I thought like revolutionized planes too when he did the um The safety belt thing So you guys know that virgin was the first one to do that like And you know what is like the most boring lamest part of like every flight when then you get on that? Initial like the the two girls in the middle of the aisle of the stewardess and they do the Safety thing and what does everybody do tune out you're on your phone No one's listening to that and then they turn up the spear. So you have to listen Yeah, yeah, right or they try and get your attention Especially if you're sitting in specific areas right or whatever So they he made like a music video and it's haven't you ever been ever noticed that on virgin? Yeah, look it up. Doug virgin does Safety music video, I'm sure that would pop pop up and they that's what he started virgin air If is it virgin air? Is that what I don't know? I'm just in case you know if you google virgin Oh, she was Wally funk was her name. She was 82. Wally funk. Yeah, wow Cool 82. She looked amazing in that picture, dude. You see a picture of her. Yeah, she looks good She looks really good. Look at her. Yeah. No, especially for 82 I love it when I mean imagine you would have to be in really good health to even get the Approval to go up, right exactly. You gotta you gotta be on on on really really good health to do that I would think right a speaking of uh of smoke and joints and the oldest Cannabis and all that stuff. Did you guys see that ned has capsules? Oh, I did hear that. Did they come in yet? They're in so it's so instead of doing the the oil, right? We talk about that. Is that actually it's on the It's on the side. Oh, it's super pumped because she's not a real big fan of the you know the flavor necessarily the oil But that's that's gonna be just wait. There's more convenient. Yeah, so I tried it twice now I love it. I absolutely love it. So the bottle the bottle will say take one to two I'll I took four just because I like the higher dose or whatever this I don't recommend you do this But that's what I did more professional supplement and dude about about 45 minutes later Just like clockwork. I get this wonderful elevation in my mood. I'm calm. I'm happy. I feel good It's one of my favorite products supplements to use but now it's in capsule form. So is this it right here? Yeah Yeah, see We get the we get the idea Right, so I've never I've never flown on virgin air. What no. Oh my god nicer more room. Is it more expensive? Yeah, I have one see a little bit. Yeah, so we flew on southwest from hawaii, right? So what is it a five-hour flight? That's a long flight. It's cheap and yeah Five-hour flight, right? So we flew in the morning through lunch to whatever the afternoon peanuts and almonds. Yes You get like wheat things, uh You get this weird little cheese cheese spread you get some like gummy bears things and uh pretzel mix I just pass along to my kids. Yeah, here's your lunch. Yeah, like every single thing on here will fuck up my gut. Thank you Yeah, that's and I don't want to have fucked up gut on the point Every single thing. That's funny. Yeah So thank god I brought my own uh, you know my own slightest You know every you know talking about net again and the cbd and stuff ever since their mellow product came out I actually use the cbd way less I'm like I actually use the mellow the mellow is definitely a daily And I and again I I attribute that to I must have been magnesium deficient, right? That's gotta be why I think I it's Among other things it seems I have deficient and probably lost that But for sure, uh The effect that I've had and I've had people DM me So I'm not the only one that noticed like this dramatic of an effect on it. It's been so Magical for me. I had no idea that I was they hit the they hit it out of the ballpark And you know their sales are crushing are they yes people are trying it and then going back and buying a ton of it That's why those capsules are interesting every new product. They've come up with it. Just like they're doing it But okay, so we're proud of us for finding them early. I gotta bring this up. This is so cool So funny. I think have you guys seen the beds that they're putting the athletes in in the tokyo olympics? No, okay. No Like what like the hotels they're staying at no because they have an olympic village So the athletes have to stay there. Is it because of covet they always they always have okay, it's always been this way But yes with covet. It's even more so, right? Okay, so these beds. I don't know dug if you can pull them up Look up olympic cardboard beds. What cardboard the beds are made out of cardboard. I'll read this I'll I'll read like what they what they say wait a second What part the frame can't be cardboard. No, no, no, so these beds are called anti-sex beds Okay, what okay, they're made of cardboard because they because you get cardboard burns if you try sex You know, there's a big problem apparently with athletes banging each other at the olympics. Do you blame them? I mean, is it a problem? I know why I'd want to go You got a bunch of coaches problem Yeah, think about it this way if you're like if you're in the running for a medal You're like super focused if you're one of the people like i'm just happy to be here Yeah, and you're like i'm fitting. Wow. Look at that sprinter over there. You know, man. Yeah, exactly Let's make it happen. So apparently there's always been problems of stds and sex and stuff really yes So they made these beds out of cardboard They only support the weight of one person and it'll break with sudden movements. There's no way This is a real thing. Yes. Now. Here's how stupid this is okay because here you have the most physically gifted people I will find a way like they can't like they can't have sex standing up. Exactly. Yeah, get the fuck out of here You know, but anyway, that was their solution. Let's make cardboard beds. So they can't bro. That is so nobody gives a shit They're all gonna bang anyway. That's not gonna stop anybody. That's so that's crazy I know that I didn't even know that was a like a what we would consider. Oh, yeah problem You've never heard stories. No, okay. So the stories are crazy that there's like Like rampant sex and orgy. Is it like, you know different countries sort of commingling Especially towards the end. So especially so typically from what I've read I've read articles and stuff where People get there and then they're really focused when they're about to compete. Yeah, then you do your your sport Yes, and then you're out and then towards the end So no, it's that'll that's it'll happen, right? Everybody's kind of towards the end Like people's events are done and they're just at the village hanging out all that pressure is gone You're around all these fit you're high from yeah, if you especially did well Yeah, you're like, well, and you have a ton in common with these people. Yeah, you all have a very similar mindset That's what I mean. You've been so for four years. You probably haven't dated or done anything. It's been super focused You've hit this pinnacle. You're done. You're on a sweet release. You're looking for another one Now you're like, I'm I can drink I can hang out. Oh cool, you know See, I feel like it with a smarter move would be to do something to like Have condoms in the room or find ways to compliment that like why try and try and fight that like I would try And why is it a problem? Yeah I mean, you guys got to remember at least I remember the the fitness conventions were always fitness people are crazy Yeah, you used to put you used to take I mean the back in the day restaurant industry That's how far they had to cancel the christmas party 24 fitness cancelled the christmas party because So crazy crazy every time ambulance is there People taking too many drugs No, bro. No, seriously story Doug every year Yeah, they're like, I don't never drink but they're just I was there the last year that they can't the last year It was in in place and it was because three ambulances showed up that day. I was there too. I must have been there too Yeah, yeah, that was like in Four ish or so I think oh, I was there before I guess they I missed all that height Oh, no, there were like people passing out because they took too many God knows what drugs in the bathroom. Just like people banging each other. It was a blast I was so heartbroken when they got rid of that I mean, I remember all year you like a like the Olympic athletes you trained so hard for four years And you're so excited to get to that event. I remember how people were dressed. Yes. Oh, I was so excited to get to that event The way people would dress people Dude half naked people are ready to like it's And you have a ton in common with all of them. Like, yeah, no, it's you all work your asses off Yeah, let them have their fun man. Jesus your Olympic you've been sacrificing for four years police shows up again Hey, yeah, but what talk about like did they have a board meeting and somebody I have an idea Cardboard beds nobody's gonna fuck then. Well, oh, yeah, that's the only place people have sex is in bed So if you make the bed hard to have sex and they'll stop like yeah, who the hell is making this rule? No, now it ends up happening I can't wait to hear what happens at this because it's going to be like the big joke will be how many beds are broken Hello, hey Who doesn't give a shit? Who wants to smash it first? Hello fit flexible people. They don't need a bed, dude Hey, there's a sink over there. Let me turn this over here And and you add the element of the fact that they're trying to stop it You always I mean it's human nature, right? Like for you to try and rebel So if they make a big that's why I say why make a big deal about it Why not just trying to think about it this way? Imagine you're in this position, right? You're at the olympics and you're kind of like now your your event's gone You want to talk to the like these girls or whatever about, you know, whatever What an easy way to open the conversation. Hey, what about these beds that are going to try and prevent us from having sex? Yes, bro That are trying to prevent us from fucking, huh? What do you think about that? What do you think? Would that stop you? Are you a rule breaker? I didn't know I was included in this anyway speaking of breaking rules you guys ever use pre-workout for things other than working out Like for just a casual I have I actually have before like if I have a day like so I it's been a while since I've done this But it wasn't that long ago because when I moved and I had just like so much house stuff to do Yeah, no, I like it first thing in the morning or what that I'm like, you know what I'm gonna get get on one Legion's pulse right pulse one of it is one of the best Pre-workouts. It's got the right amount of caffeine and the anine. It's got the beta alanine. It's really good. That's exactly what I did I gotta move all this stuff. Yeah better mix up. That was the last time I did. Is that what you did for? Oh, that's funny. Yeah, that was my the last time I did it was first time I don't do it a lot like it's very rare that I use it and not work Because I you get so amped I need to make sure it's something that I'm like, I can't take it Oh, I have a busy day today. Let me take some pre-workout. No, that'll ruin my sleep that night I need to spend that energy if I take it. So I need it needs to be something I'm getting ready to go into and I'm like, okay This is gonna be like four to six hours of like moving furniture and I'm gonna be sweating and like, yeah Yeah, I've also done it for long drives So I long drives for me are really well. Yes, because I want to fall asleep in the car So I've done it before I'll take a scoop of pulse and then get in the car and listen to some good music and dry fast That's the trucker. Yeah, that's driving fast. I mean as bad as that is right But I mean drive driving fast always keeps me more awake and alert If I drive real slow and cruising when I'm tired like that's like a recipe for disaster One of the best things I can do is like all right drive fast because then I know I'm like Now by the way when I say fast like fast now is not that fast when I was younger fast was fast Five miles over. Yeah. Now. It's like I'm going 80 like that's not that big of a deal when I was a kid I was like, you know cruise control 120 What do you think drives a fast set of I drive slow today? I feel like I'm not a fast driver anymore You're definitely not. I think I've been what you drive real slow depends on, you know, I think you would be the fastest Probably yeah, really you're the fastest. Doug never drives. I think he's put 10,000 miles on his car since I've since I've known him Yeah, do you drive here to work Doug or do you walk or do you bike or walk? Yeah, I drive How literally though, how many miles have you put on that BMW? Since since you since we've all been together because you had it before we all get together, right? No No, no, no, no. Oh you bought it after I bought it after I've had it since like 2016 or what were you driving before that? I don't remember what you were I had a Jeep Cherokee. Yeah, yeah I think I put on Doug drives cars until they break. Yeah He doesn't buy new cars. Yeah. Yeah, I do the same. Yeah about 30,000 miles. I think you've put 30 on in the last Maybe 35. Yeah Are you all crazy that is I do that at least one of my cars in a year's time. That's crazy Now eat well now because you drive. Yeah, especially now, but I mean like I definitely put them out He puts on a lot of miles too. Yeah, you already have close to 100 in that truck. Don't you 100 and yeah Are you over 100? Well, actually, no, I'm not you're at 80. You're 80 something last time I saw It's like a bit 90 ish. Yeah At what point do you like to sell your car mileage wise when it's when the transmission needs to be replaced So you just keep going truck that you're coming up on that right now with the truck Chevy's Chevy's gmc's They all like typically go over between 100 and 120. Really? Yeah, it depends for me Yeah, I have to like do a major that's just part of it major overhaul most of time if you're if you get lucky You get it before the war if you do like 100,000 mile warranty you get it before it hits that Or I always recommend people that are close to 100,000 to extend the warranty until the tranny goes out And then after that, yeah, right right into the wheels Fall off because your tranny on that's going to be five to seven thousand dollars. That's why I like Japanese cars I don't that should well, so yeah to me it would be depend right? So when I had my Toyota Corolla Because I'm like a Toyota or a Honda. I mean those things you could Bang out those things till they're like 300,000 miles man. It's crazy. Yeah My dad had a a Toyota pickup that he drove for years And I think he got it over 300 and something thousand miles and Barely had to do anything to this thing, but it was a basic You know four cylinder pickup now that thing lasted forever As you're just feelings for cars and like what you think about them or what you want with them So that has it always been consistent your whole life because I know how you feel about it Like you're just like whatever it gets for me from point a point b you could give two shits of the brand I really I value I like uh, I appreciate cars a lot. I really appreciate them but Owning something that's really expensive and for me feels like a waste of money because I don't care that much When I own it myself. It's not that big of a deal As long as it's nice and it doesn't break down and it's you know, then it's all good I'm a quality guy. Like I want a real nice quality Like especially if it's a vehicle that I know will be reliable and and also like I like I want to feel good driving it and everything So I may spend a bit more, but then I'm gonna ride it till the wheels fall off So and now have you always been that way too? Like you always did you always were into cars and like yeah, and I mean I worked on my truck through high school and stuff I had this like, you know Hot rod truck that I was slowly tinkering on and I drove all the beaters Forever when I had to so I had like these old honda Like eight 1980 honda like brown, you know the the the header was like coming off You know the the ceiling of it and you know it was just a whole piece of shit But I mean I've driven all those and I'm like I don't want to Regress, you know, I'm always like maybe like the next car would be so interesting Have you done that like most your life like every little ladder nicer a little bit nicer Yeah, what do I have you did that have you done that as every like every as life has gone on You've got more what about you dug because you've lived so many lifetimes like what is Are you someone who has changed? I used to ride a chariot It was a golden chariot though I I've always been I like nice cars. Don't get me wrong I've been a bit reluctant because I'm very practical to spend a lot of money on a car But I've my quality of cars over the years for sure. Well, you you obviously we know You know I get we've talked about this before right, so you appreciate it Yeah, so what I what has changed about me as the young kid that would probably you know As a young kid, I probably wanted like a lamborghini or fry. I have no desire for that anymore It's not practical whatsoever Uh, and as cool as it may be for a couple weeks. I know the I mean look at even my Camaro I don't I don't drive my Camaro enough enough to really justify probably the price What justifies that is the value of it. Yeah, it holds its value. That's more of an investment Yeah, so I think I and I've gotten away from Spinning frivolously on things that don't give me a lot of joy and fulfillment or that have like a long lasting joy that I get from it if that makes sense, right? So Going on a weekend and blowing a bunch of money to look cool for other people is way in the past for me Uh, but I do I I I really I loved I mean you guys know how much I love to drive a drive all the time Intend we go anywhere. I'm the one who drives. So I enjoy driving. I like getting in the car Yeah, and I've I've now I've driven enough cars and and levels of of cars as far as the Luxury of them and the power of them and you know being in a really powerful Luxury type of vehicle is it's a very comfortable. I definitely appreciate it I definitely appreciate just owning one for myself. It's the worst investment ever I mean it is it's an out unless you're doing like a classic car unless you really get is worse. Yes Yeah, that's about the only probably the only worse than a car people don't realize that about boats the biggest waste of money Oh my god. Yeah, no unless you use the shit out of it It's just a way you can't just like waiting even if you live on a goddamn lake. They're still winter Yeah, so you can't even like at least a car you drive year around You know how many boats there are at the bottom of Lake Tahoe because of that Have you heard it? What is the number on that must be a gajillion? Oh, it's a huge problem because people get insurance on them and then it's oh, it's time to fucking sink the boat I know I know people have done that and and they go and they sink it Yeah, they pull the plug out and it's so deep nobody gets nobody's yeah Yeah, and it's hard to hard hard to prove other one You know speaking of of of water bodies of water and interesting facts, uh, I you guys are you guys watching Shark Week right now? Oh, I watched it with my kids. Yeah, I'm watching it Max is really into like sharks right now. So yeah ever is the same. Yeah. Wow. That's I know he says is wow So wow, wow, we're watching the sharks any guests from you guys on How many estimated obviously we don't have a precise number how many estimated great white sharks there are in in the world? Oh I have no idea. Is it is it thousands? Is it less than 10,000? So my my buddies and I we were like speculated on this and I'm like, you know, I don't think it's I think it's actually very little Right, that's why it's such a big deal right and uh, and I know they're an endangered species So I know it's going to be on the lower end. Are they in danger? I don't know if they're considered. Yes. Yes They're considered in danger species. Yeah. Yeah So I my buddy I said, yeah, I think there's you know a few thousand was his guess and I thought Yeah, no, I wasn't sure what it was Uh between 200 and 300 that's it total. Yeah, that can't be no way Google fact you could literally tag all of them. Geez. I think they have They have most I know they're yeah, and they're all in scenic. I mean, I see them Yeah, not only that like I told you guys when we were out there on the camera and and They were out there feeding and people were swimming on the shore. I'm we're just like there's literally sharks right here Nobody cared. They're just swimming, you know, wow Isn't that crazy? 218 to 313 I know like world. I had no idea. I didn't know that that's crazy. Why do I feel like there's so many probably because you see them You know, I know that points out how crazy that is that we have this huge fear around them Like the likelihood of a shark attacking you is so small so small I know, you know, it's funny the people fear going in the ocean because of getting attacked by a shark when in reality You should fear drowning the odds of drowning are so much higher. No much much higher, but I had no idea was that low Wow, right now. Is that for off the coast of california? It says 300 white sharks in the region Oh, but not in the world. We'll check world because I I think well No, there's obviously down in the Bahamas and things like that check the world because I checked that That was the number I came up with and I I think I I thought I did world It seems to be conflicting information here. Yeah, because right there says the world right there Well, that says off of northern all right here right there left in the world click right there about 3500 Still Lower and then I would have expected way lower I would have thought tens of thousands or 10,000 or just under 10,000 with that so 30 I thought okay, so I'm glad you figured that out Doug because I was obviously way off by 300 these monsters around Yeah, no, they're so so fascinating, dude I love watching them attack seals like they just like launch out of the water as well It's it's so much raw power Do you know what what fucks up great whites? Just what great whites are scared of Killer will yeah killer will yeah Yeah, they actually the only thing that they will actually show that if the great whites because they like to stay in one area To hunt which they're actually related dolphins. They're not whales. Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah I know things I'll never forget that That was my favorite moments of us there now great whites will will have an area for hunting and then if a if a Orca shows up they'll gone and they won't come back. They just won't come back. That's how afraid they are of Wow, oh, dude, they rule the sea. Yeah, they'll get it for real though. They'll hunt and kill great white sharks No, I know that I mean they're significantly bigger, right? They also are smart Yeah, because because they're dolphins from that family, they're very intelligent and they work together I mean you've seen the techniques that they used to hunt. I I have seen I have seen them like fuck up Go under ice and like bump. Yeah, make seal slide off the ice. Yeah and get them and then they Heard them all together now. I know I I know uh, I know that great whites typically are somewhere between 12 and 20 feet And I think a thousand you haven't been watching shark. I haven't yeah my random facts. I know things actually Look at this orcas attacking You can find videos like this all over youtube or because attacking great whites. Yeah. Yeah wild How well how big is the how big is the uh orca? Yeah, the orca because I don't know their stats They're significantly bigger than the the great white, right? Like much bigger two three x more than them, right? I mean, I which is you thank you be so crazy to see that happen in real life. Oh, yeah, they're way more than that I remember seeing chamu. Yeah, I mean, they're like five x the size of what uh What is it? Look at them hunting in pods. So they're like hunting together I tell you man if if dolphins and orcas that's in australia done South australia. Did you see what's happening in sydney australia right now? What the lockdowns? Oh, I know They're going they're going in full on I think I saw three thousand Surrounding cities or locations or some I can't remember what what exactly That's true then, huh? Was it was that true that you did you see that well Maybe fact check me on that too. Doug that sydney's going into a full lockdown again It's um, you know, so funny We have a we have a forum and we have a lot of people in australia And we have quite a few in the forum and they always talk about how How you know shitty america is and some of that and how great australia is over there And I'm like they're all their freedoms are so so so just as free as we are over here I'm like, dude, I think it's crazy. What's going on with us over here like that's even more crazy I know there was a video. I don't know where it was if it was australia or an australia or new zealand were a woman They shut her social media down and then came to her house while she was with their kids To arrest her for talking about like being opposed to the lockdown now They've also had their all their guns taken too, right long time ago long so long time So does that mean like no residents in australia? No, I don't remember exactly what it was Yeah, I don't know exactly what it was But they they did there was a big buyback program and they banned quite a few Yeah, that would scare me like if you lived in a country where not only do they take all your guns But then all of a sudden something like this happens. The second amendment is the amendment that gives teeth to all the other Well, yeah Look at what's happening in hong kong barrier there hong kong. It was a very free society very free Economically, it's one of the reasons why hong kong went from third world country to economic powerhouse when they have no natural resources except for a harbor China now is cracking down. They're protesting like crazy And I can't imagine that I can I can only imagine how different it would be Had they had a second amendment and they were armed like americans are Like that would give more pause to that kind of Terony that's why that exists in the first place So I know people are going to all fire it up about it But it's true If if if people if the government pushed real hard It would be very different in a country where everybody's very well armed than in a country when people are not armed Hey real quick. I hope you're enjoying the show. So go check out one of our sponsors l m n t now They make electrolyte powder that actually works It's got the right amount of sodium for athletes for better performance And for those of you that like to get good pumps in the gym So if you don't eat a lot of processed foods, especially if you do low carb diet You need more sodium. Don't believe all the fear mongering around sodium It's essential and it does help with muscle contractions. And like I said, you get better pumps head over to lm n t So go to drink lm n t dot com forward slash Mind pump and get a free sample pack. We actually got you guys hooked up free sample pack All you got to do is pay for shipping. All right. Enjoy the rest of the show First question is from limar second What are the advantages or disadvantages of alternating sides during an exercise versus doing both sides at the same time? For example When doing a dumbbell press, is it better to do one arm at a time or both arms at once? Oh, they're both good It's actually almost a different exercise. So let's use the Dumbbell press as an example since that's the question, right? So Let's say i'm doing a dumbbell shoulder press If I do one at one at a time That means one arm that's resting. It's not really resting, right? It's holding in position while the other one's pressing Is doing an isometric contraction In that particular position. There's two ways you could do it One is with the arm at the bottom while the other one presses and one is while the arm is at the top While they're on the one presses the other difference is because i'm moving a weight on one side It's requiring more Core stability in particular to stabilize because as the lever changes and lengthens It's making one side slightly heavier than the other You really feel this like on a chest press like you do one arm at a time on a chest press and you have to stabilize your body from Rolling off the bench. That's my favorite part about it is like sort of the anti rotation component because like when you're doing anything Super functional or athletic. Um, that's a major Factor in how well you're going to be able to you know perform and respond Based on what types of stress or types of movement that you're you know trying to explosively produce So, uh, I mean, there's lots of carryover in terms of like alternating Um, you know, which sides, uh, you know, you're focusing on I would argue that the the most beneficial is the Isometric portion of it and then the time under tension If you do 10 dumbbell presses with both arms together Time it how long it takes you to do that if you do the same thing alternating So 10 and 10 on each side, which basically means you get to 20 reps Figure out the time you're gonna you're gonna dramatically increase the time under tension for the same muscle And you're also going to incorporate a isometric portion that you don't really get in a in a typical You know both arms pressing so I think it's a great way to and when else do Does the average person include isometrics? Very very rare and we've talked about At nauseam the benefits of isometric training and very few people do it This is a great way to incorporate it in your training And to late south side you could and you could do the isometric contraction At the top of the the rep or at the bottom of the rep and that goes for shoulder pressing and curling and I mean Almost every exercise you can incorporate this so there's tremendous value in it, especially if you never do it So if you do most of your exercises both arms together all the time, um, then incorporating You know alternate which you're gonna have to lighten the load Yep Because of the increased time under tension and the stability it's harder to go as heavy when you're alternating Now does that make it a better exercise? No. No, it makes it a different exercise. In fact, if I were to The difference between barbell Exercises and dumbbell exercises is very similar to the difference between dumbbell and alternating dumbbell exercises So if we were to rank them in terms of amount of weight you can lift and total force generated And then you add in stability and control and tension And time under tension you can see that it's like barbell training dumbbell training alternate dumbbell training So, you know, obviously with barbells I can use more weight generate more power Higher load, uh, but I'm not going to have as much time under tension typically I'm not going to have as much of a stability component. You go to dumbbells Not as much weight, but there's more stability involved then I go to alternating even lower weight even more stability involved All of them have value. So it's it's I think it's important to incorporate them all differently I mean when I alternate with dumbbells I also can isolate and squeeze the muscle that I'm really working on like I'll give you an example one of my favorite Alternating exercises with dumbbells is a dumbbell row. So I'll bend over with two dumbbells I'll bring one up squeeze that lat and that side hold that and then row the other one up And then bring the other one down and squeeze that the other side So i'm constantly focusing on the squeeze with that movement So the follow-up question or what should be the follow-up question to this is how do I incorporate this into my My training program and this is uh, what I do it personally is very similar to how salu talked Not that long ago in the podcast of you know, when you're going to cut how you like to do light weight and high rep So I like to do this like maybe if I Overreached and I've been maybe I'm in a strength phase and I trained really heavy And I'm back on that muscle group and I'm still kind of sore So I don't want to go I don't want to load really heavy again So I'll go a much lighter weight and focus on Control and the isometric portion of the exercise And doing things like this because I know that I'm gonna have to significantly reduce the weight to do this So I may not do as much muscle damage as I would if I was heavy loading Or doing both dumbbells together So that's kind of how I would do it and really it's uh, if it's something you never do There's tremendous value and if you already incorporate into your routine or that's how you always train then Training barbell movements are going to be very beneficial to that person. So it's whatever you're doing the least Next question is from s powers 28. What are your thoughts on full-body workouts on consecutive days? You can do this so long typically as you modify the intensity appropriately. So in fact You can work out your whole body every single day. I mean seven days a week if you want to but it's not hard Seven days a week. Usually what that would look like is two or three hard workouts with you know four or you know or or five easier Full-body workouts. So the intensity has to be modified But you can definitely train things back to back On consecutive days and get great results if you don't modify the intensity you're in for some trouble Typically you train hard everything all the time without allowing Some kind of recovery you're probably going to run into some problems. Yeah I mean it reminds me a lot of like some jobs that are really rigorous and physical I mean you have to get up and you do that job every single day and your body starts to get adapted and really good at it But you know, there's a way to do this It's all like intensity based in terms of how beneficial it is for you and like how you can kind of Scale that but to to be able to keep reinforcing and teaching these movements to your body is going to do You actually some good and actually get stronger in a lot of these movements as a result As long as that's taken to account So if I know that i'm going to be training two days in a row I would actually split my routine up. So I do this a lot with maps and a baller So i'm following like a maps and a ballik-esque routine right now, right? And I I know that this week i'm going to be able to get you know Five days or six days in the gym And so what I might do is I might take the full body routine and cut it in half and on monday Do the first half of it on tuesday do the second half of it. Yeah, and go upper lower upper lower That's what i'm doing right now Yeah, so And then on weeks where I only have three days I can make to the gym Then I follow the more traditional way that it was written So that's one of the ways that you can modify the program So if I know that right so if I know ahead of time i'm going to be going back to back days of training I'll normally split the body up on that otherwise you would have to modify like you're saying of like really scale back on the intensity Or the other option I do is like let's say I trained a full body I didn't know that I'd have availability to work out again on tuesday So i'm getting this extra day in but then i'm like oh man i kind of hit most of everything on this That's where I might focus on a lagging body part or maybe do core I'm turning into a mobility day So that might be how I caught it call an audible when I know I just did a full body Work out the day before what I might do the next day. Yeah, I'm a huge Proponent of frequency. I think frequency for a long time at least training your body parts frequently Was something that was talked down upon it was all about intensity and about having lots of days of rest I think frequency is phenomenal. I think practicing things often is excellent for building muscle improving strength improving performance You just got to modify the intensity if the intensity is appropriate meaning some days are hard some days are moderately hard other days are Very easy This frequency can be an extremely powerful tool It really trains the central nervous system in effective ways it gets you to learn movement very well And it sends a constant muscle building signal Of course the loud ones with the hard workouts and the low ones with the light workouts Nonetheless, you're still getting this signal sent to the body to build On a pretty regular basis. So when it comes to frequency like this by the way is something I changed my mind on About halfway through my career. I was the intensity and lots of rest Person before when I started experimenting with frequency with my clients first and then myself It was like game. It's really the secret sauce of most of our programs is the addition of the frequency builders And we find that in different forms based off the different goals that we sort of engineer in there But I mean this is something that you know world-class strength coaches know about It's they they call it different things like I know I've heard like even Corey Schlesinger calls it like a micro dosing You know intensity versus, you know, like the macro dose and like what that you know scale looks like and but it's always Related to you know total body movement and you know practicing a lot of these types of strength moves Next question is from camp bull Assuming you've already hit your protein target for the day What is the difference between getting the rest of your calories from carbs or fat? This is a really good question a lot different unless you're really low on your fat. Yeah, so First off fat and protein are essential So that means that if you don't hit at least your essential requirements for fat and protein Those are always a priority because your body cannot produce essential fatty acids and it cannot produce Essential amino acids which come from protein. So if you don't hit those minimums You can be have a lot of That's the only concern I would ever have with this client So this client came to me and said hey adam I hit my protein intake. I want to have more carbs today. Is that okay? So long as you're hitting the minimum requirements for your fats I mean that's where this is then it becomes an issue like so if someone said Let's say they had most their Protein came from You know whey protein or a very lean source of of meat and eggs. Well eggs has got some good amount of fat And it was just say maybe egg whites. Yeah, let's say you just have a really low Let's say they're they're total fat for the day for you know a male. It's 180 pounds is You know 20 grams of fat is all they've had and then they're like can I just fill the rest of the carbs? No, I would push that person in the direction of of filling it up with fat Yeah, I agree now if so long as you've hit your essential numbers Um, this is really a personal preference thing I tend to do better With fat than I do with carbohydrates. Now. I know people who are the opposite That they do better with carbohydrates over fats. So it's really up to you now What's the difference between the two besides personal preference? Carbs so long as you hit your essential fats carbs tend to Uh contribute to performance better. Uh, so if I have higher carbs so long as I digest them well And I feel good. I'm gonna notice better performance from that usually Uh than I will from from fats And then there's cases where I like I've had clients female clients in particular Where we're noticing hormone and skin issues and hair issues where I'm going to tell them Let's let's prioritize the fat that tends to help better more with your joints and your skin And your nails and your hair than your carbohydrates But aside from the essential component really it's a personal preference thing Like what makes you feel better? What makes you perform better? And then you know go for that This is why one of my favorite tips to to teach somebody about attrition or help somebody out with their diet Without over complicating it is actually having them just focus on protein first If you can get a client to just hit their protein targets and then you're you're less worried about You know, how many grams of carbs or how many grams of fat they necessarily have for the rest of the day You're typically okay The only time that this becomes an issue Is if and only if that person grossly under eats fat and so they're not even hitting their minimum requirements But if you do a good job of kind of ebb and flow on you know The last few days I've had like higher fat and then so today I'm going to go lower fat and more carbohydrate And you kind of see saw back and forth and I think you're going to be totally fine And it's like you said total preference also what I'm trying to do if I'm trying to gain in bulk I'm going to lean more towards carbohydrates. I find I can keep eating carbs more where fat seems to be a little more satiating for me So if I'm trying to be more restrictive and stay lower calorie, I hit my so let's say I'm on a leaning out phase I might go protein. I hit my protein the rest of my calories I might go after fat that way kind of suppresses my appetite a little bit And I don't want to eat more if the opposite is true I'm trying to get bigger and I'm trying to gain weight And I hit my protein and target and I've got calories left I might load it up with carbs so that my I want to eat more and it's easier to eat more Now, you know what I found in this situation when people are like, okay, cool. I'm going to fill it with carbs Carbs are really easy to to throw in with junk food if you're just looking for carbs Like if you're just looking for fat with junk food, typically it also comes along with carbs But when you're looking for just carbs, I've seen people do this where they're like, oh, I'm going to have You know cereal or I'm going to eat just to you know Just things that tend to be in boxes and wrappers So keep that in mind as well like if you're just looking to fill calories Don't do it with garbage foods or foods that might cause digestive issues because that kind of defeats the purpose Question is from Shelby Jutton What advice would you give someone who has consistently been training six days a week? I'm scared to back off in fear of losing losing progress or regaining fat because I'm not as active Yeah, here's the the fascinating case of doing less is more and you see this Often with people who tend to push too much. I've had So many people I've trained where they're in this situation. They're working out six days a week or seven days a week and they're Doing too much and we scale them back And rather than gaining body fat and losing muscle the opposite happens They build muscle because what they were doing before was too much And then as they build the muscle because their muscle is burning more calories. They have a faster metabolism They actually get leaner. So I know progressive resistance and progressive overload and adding volume Those are all part of building muscle, but at some point you get diminishing returns And sometimes you're doing too much doing less Oftentimes can produce better results I liked sort of the basic idea of if you took like a week vacation And you didn't train or do anything and then you come back and you feel like The most energy the most strength you've had in a long time You know as sort of a bit of a gauge of wow I guess, you know, that was probably a bit more of demand than I realized I was placing on my body But you just got to kind of you know, take a leap of faith And try it out if that's something you're considering and try kind of scaling back for a while You'll know like your body's going to kind of uh, you know reveal that to you So, uh, I dealt with this a lot, uh, especially with competitors. Um, this was common I get a whole of a competitor and many times I would assess They're eating and training and many times they were Overtraining and I had to scale them back from six to seven days a week to like a maps anabolic type of program And this exact would be the concern. This is they're freaking out like, oh my god, I trained six seven days a week You're going to cut that in half Um, am I going to put on all this body fat? One of the one of the strategies that I used to use to help mitigate that or the potential of that happening Is I would just replace the days that they the other three days that they're no longer lifting more with activity walking mobility That way the the calorie expenditure is still up there, but the training volume is being changed also mentally for them They're doing right exactly. They're still doing something. So I what I'd say to that that client I'd say listen, you don't have to stop going to the gym. Go to the gym Still go your six days your seven if you like that that's part of your routine Um, I I respect that and I understand like do it like I like I like that you've made that a part of your lifestyle But now what I'm asking you to do is now on Tuesdays and Thursdays I want it to be all mobility and walking on the treadmill for that hour And so that's and then they're also getting some calorie expenditure there So if you take somebody who's going six days a week training very hard high volume and you cut them to three There's definitely going to be a difference in calorie They're a busy person with a busy mindset Right gotta make that productive and they're also their body's also adapted to a pretty high calorie burn And if you don't adjust them the calories For that difference then there is a potential that they will put on a little bit of body fat after that One of the ways like I said to mitigate that Is to keeping the activity level still up there, but you're changing the type of activity You're scaling back the intense high volume training that they were doing To give them something that their body's probably going to respond better to like a three day a week Anabolic type of full body routine But then you're also allowing them to still move and have activity So there's not such a discrepancy in the calorie Yeah, but sometimes there's a paradox that happens, right? So some I've had this happen many times Where somebody's working out six days a week. It's too much I cut them down to three days a week of resistance training. So they're doing less activity But because the three days a week built more muscle on their body Well, I'll explain that paradox. You know, you that the who that client is is the client who also Under eats so they're they're not they're also they're over training and they're under eating So the so just by cutting the days now their calories are probably about where they should be And the less activity is actually extremely beneficial because now they're recovering better right now And they're building more muscle which then results in getting so Absolutely, so that is a that's a very common paradox that happens and as a coach That's what you're looking for. So when I'm assessing the diet and the training I'm looking at is this person just I think training too much But they have a good a good hold of getting enough nutrition and they're eating a good amount of calories Or are they over training and under eating if they're over training and under eating Then that advice is the advice I give we drop down to two or three days a week of weight training And I'm not even worried about activity there's time But if I know that you're eating a good amount of calories, you're feeding the body really well You got a good calorie intake say if this is a female that's asking say she's eating I looked at her her profile real quick too. Let's pretend she's eating somewhere between 2,400 and 2,800 calories a day and she's just training six days a week I might just modify that but if she was eating 1,500 calories really really low and Over training I may not ask her to do the extra activity. I might just say you know what you need to do You need to scale back on that volume breaks on yeah Let's scale that back and actually not do any extra activity and then I'd actually want to increase calories And then if I do any move that's when I'll start doing movement. Yeah, you know I encounter that you know, it's interesting too about this is if you were to take just the average person A majority of the average people Would build more muscle and get better results working out three days a week then six days a week just it just that's just Statistically, I would say that's a hundred percent just an adequate recovery focus Most most people would do better with that the people that do well six days a week have First of all the programming has to be really really good because it's a lot of exercise And they have to they typically are have been working out for a while. They're relatively advanced They've gotten good nutrition. They've got a good hold of things. They're not the average person They tend to be much a little bit more advanced But the average person I mean I wouldn't take the average person who wants to build muscle Have trained six days a week. Usually I'm doing a good three-day week routine I mean shit when Doug hired me as a coach He had exercise experience. He was lifting twice a week It was two days a week that he started and he did two days a week for a year before he moved up to three days a week Um, and now of course he follows our programs and he'll train upwards of four or five six days a week But it took a while. So The here's the thing with exercise The right dose is going to get you the best results and the right dose is individualized the More than that or less than that will get you there slower. So always remember that Look, if you like our content if you like our information, you'll love mind pump free.com so much free stuff there Go check it out. Again. It's mind pump free.com. 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