 Alright, let's get into our end of podcast, what we have all been consuming in the cultural arena. Peter, I understand that you stood in a long line to the bathroom. Do you want to talk about it? No, I didn't. I don't want to talk about that at all. Okay. But you did go to the movie theater in which there were long lines of the bathroom from what I understand. That's true. I saw Dune part two twice actually once in IMAX and once not in IMAX. And I'm going to see it again tomorrow. Gosh. Catherine at Maggie Ward because it's awesome. Sounds like he's perfectly willing to consider that option. I took my wife and she enjoyed it and that was good enough. So I was really thinking about this movie in the context of its sci-fi lineage. In a lot of ways, Dune the novel, Frank Herbert's 1960s novel is a response and retort to Isaac Asimov's foundation series. And then of course, Star Wars borrows a lot of elements from Frank Herbert's Dune novel, right? The sandy planet of Tatooine, the giant worm and the Empire Strikes Back, right? George Lucas was absolutely using that as part of his kind of collage material along with like World War II fighter footage and Akira Kurosawa and all of that stuff. And then of course, Star Wars, you know, gave way, right? It has sort of become the like 50%, 51% of pop culture over the last 40 years. I'm exaggerating a little bit for effect here, but it's become this huge force. And now the Dune movies that are out are kind of recommenting back on Star Wars. But if you go back to where all of this started with foundation and Isaac Asimov, what was foundation? Foundation was Isaac Asimov's science fiction retelling of Gibbon's decline and fall of the Roman Empire. And you think about how much mind space has been devoted to these science fiction stories over the past decades. And it really turns out that the meme is true. Men cannot stop thinking about the Roman Empire. And so that's what I came away from Dune 2 with. All right. So you liked it? Yeah, it's really good. You know, from and freedom. I think we're going to need like a holiday to celebrate it. Dune 10th. Oh, Nick, what did you consume that you would like to talk about without getting into Gibbon? Well, I also want to point out that George Lucas stole from Dune the original or the 1984 David Lynch version, which featured Sting wearing a diaper at the end. Some of that shows up in Star Wars as well. And I will I'm forever Dune the David Lynch Dune, which is that but that's because I disliked the novel and everything that emanates from it. Although I think Peter is absolutely right in his categorization and characterization of it. So I will talk. I had two things, but I'll limit it to one mat. Thank you. Yes. And that is Andrew Hickey's podcast, a history of rock music in 500 songs. He is up to almost up to episode 200. These are multi hour long kind of disquisitions about music going back to the late 30s up through, you know, he's up to various points in the early 70s with things. He just finished a four part arc that involves the birds and particularly Grand Parsons, which is probably a total of about eight hours. This is like rock history if Dan Carlin of Hardcore History was doing it. These are phenomenal, weird, you know, meditations on how rock music, which is really pop music in the post war era came into being. Hickey is a strange British guy. He sounds like Alan Rickman on a tranquilizer. He is it is just a if you care at all about popular music and about how that intersects with all sorts of different creative, commercial, political and cultural happenings. Over the past 70 years, a history of rock music and 500 songs is unbeatable. It is truly amazing. And, you know, I am the most the asset test of it is that I listen to episodes about songs and artists that I actively dislike. And I come out seeing the world anew for the first time. It's really a triumph of the podcast form. And I cannot recommend it enough. I think that the birds and grand Parsons tell a story about the possibility, the technological, the cultural, the aesthetic possibilities of the late 60s that was going to fail in its inception. And so that particular for episode series is just an incredibly deep rendering of stuff. I know very well and I learned a ton on this. And I think everybody would, you know, it, regardless of whether you like the subject matter, you will be amazed that somebody pieced all of this together in a way that is a beautiful multi dimensional work of art. I highly, highly recommend a history of rock music in 500 songs by Andrew Hickey. I have had more people come up to me in the last two weeks and recommend that podcast that have probably recommended all podcasts in the history of the world up until that moment. Friends in LA who play music and have been in the industry one way or the other for 30 years will say the exact same thing that Nick just said of like, I know everything about X, and I learned a whole bunch about X. And I can't believe how right they got it and how interesting it was. So I can't wait to listen to it myself. And there is tons of it. So, you know, Catherine, what did you consume? I am going to re recommend something that Nick has recommended on this podcast in the past, maybe twice even. I'm doing this because I just read it. And so it is fresh for me, but also because maybe you, like me, black out while Nick is talking at the end of the podcast. And so you might have missed it and it would be a shame. Back of the line, Catherine. You did. I also black out. You woke me back up with the phrase Alan Rickman on tranquilizers. So I actually did. I did catch some of that this week. Julia, it is the retelling of George Orwell's 1984 by Sandra Newman. Oh, you guys, it's so good. It's just so good. Like speaking of like doing too good. It's doing too good, Peter. I haven't seen doing too yet. I'm sure I will enjoy it. But I, I love a retelling. I am I this is already a genre that I'm in for. I will, you know, retell me a Greek myth, retell me a fairy tale, retell me whatever. But because 1934 has attained this kind of mythological status, right? Like it's all of us have it engraved in our brains at an early age. And so this is subject to that same, that same power of the kind of like retelling of a of a myth, the retelling of a foundational story. And, and there is a twist, which I will not reveal, but it's it's fantastic. And if you, like me, are a lady, you might particularly enjoy it because one of the most powerful things about this about this retelling is that it it really captured for me the experience that I had, but wasn't able to articulate reading 1984, which is like, I'm not Winston Smith. I'm not. I wouldn't be like this in this world. He is he is sort of too credulous and too uncynical in what I see as typically male ways. And Julia immediately busts through that and then does interesting things with it. So it's short. It's felt short. Actually, I have no idea how long it was because I read it on Kindle, but it's it's really, really wonderful. Julia, a retelling of George Orwell's 1984.