 Είμαστε εδώ στον Κυριακό Γυρφάκη. Είμαι ο Πρεσυντροφαίκης του Αλεξάνδρυνου Βαϊσσόν. Είμαστε συμβουλίδες της Κορυνιάκης. Είναι πριν 16ο αιώνα. Είμαστε σχετικά ασφαλές της Κορυνιάκης. Είναι πριν 16ο αιώνα. Έχουμε ένα εξαιρετικό συμβουλίδο. Έχουμε την Αωράνιακή Βαϊσσόν. Η ανθρώπιση και το δίδιο του Προφέσου Λογωθετήδης έχει δημιουργήσει ένα κόσμο της εξέλουσης εδώ, στην ορισία μας, στην αυτήν την εξέλουση. Είμαστε σχετικά ασφαλές της εξέλουσης, στην αρχή της εξελουσίας, και έχουν πολλές εξέλουσες. Είμαστε σχετικά ασφαλές της εξέλουσης εδώ, στην αυτή η βασική ασφαλή που έχουμε σήμερα. Είναι η ασφαλή που βρίσκεται μετά το Μαμπτολυμπις. Είναι η Μαμπτολυμπις. Είναι η Ζουσία, δείτε. Είναι η Μαμπτολυμπις. Θέλουμε να could say it's there. Είναιune 여기 πρό ajudar. Είναιή μεICOgrityng στον ogr μακριάuinς η γαταος του Ήμουν, λογμα του Μαμπτολυμπικού.iteld clues. Π είναι θεωρώ απο τα κόμματα που ας aspiration. Δεν είχε κανένα παιδί, ήταν πάνω για 2300 χρόνια. Με πολλές δημιουργίες, είναι το κέντερο της Ευρώπης. Αυτό είναι το μέρος που μπορούμε να δημιουργήσουμε τη δημιουργία. Μετατοσύμπρος we have 4 universities in the era. We have more than 120 thousand students instead in the era. We have 20 thousand graduate students in the era. That's why we can be a place important for the economy of knowledge. And that's where our future lies. και η Νανωτεκνολογία και το Σέντεο της Αξιλάντης που έχει δημιουργηθεί λάζει μέσα σε αυτή την ιστορία, αυτό το σενάριο της δημιουργίας για αυτή την ιστορία μας. Είναι ένα πολύ σημαντικό μέρος. Η Ελλάδα είναι καλύτερη. Η Ελλάδα θα είναι η εύκολη της ευρωπαϊκής τεκνολογίας. Τι θα είσαι να λέτε. Have the plenty possibility to become so. You see in the past, 30-40 years ago, in the 1960s, the people in Greece were not as educated as they are today. They were very much thirsty for war. That's why at that time our economy was based on industrial activity. Είναι πολύ δύσκολο σήμερα. Σήμερα, most of the Greek people are educated. They have university degrees. This is proven by the number of Greeks that live and go and live abroad. And they prosper abroad. They have very good careers abroad. So we have the main ingredient to become a technology hub. To become an R&D hub. We have the human capital. And this is what we have to take advantage for. And everybody speaks English here, right? Yes, most of the people speak English. They speak English. Not just because they like Hollywood movies. No. I mean, we learn... I'm a little bit older. But even at my age, learning English when I was at school, I was taking French courses. But more or less everybody, even from the 1970s, they were obliged to learn English. And today, wherever you go, you will find people... It's very difficult to find a person here in Greece who doesn't speak English. If you are at the streets and you speak English, they will understand you and they will communicate with you and they will try to help you. But English is one part of the talents of foreign languages. It's one part of the talents our people have. Our people have excellent scientific knowledge. And this is what is important and this is why you can really become a technology hub. Why we haven't been... Why we didn't manage so far to become one? Because there are several things that we haven't done. We don't have, for example, we didn't have a place to accept investments in R&D. We had laws that caused a lot of taxes and social security to be paid. So the cost for wages was too high despite the fact that the people themselves were receiving lower money. But these things are changing. For example, the innovation zone has recently been granted a land of 750,000 sq.m. where we are going to build and make a technology park. In this technology park we invite and there is interest for foreign companies to come and invest in R&D in development of technology to invest on innovation. We have, as I said before, the human capital. We have the land and I hope that pretty soon we will have also the incentives, the tax incentives to be able to invest on research and development. The efforts that have been done so far prove that we have the capabilities. Actually, this nanotechnology conference that is happening for the 16th year in a row proves what we are capable of doing. So Tessoniki is a perfect place for amazing things to happen in future. Startups, local startups, international startups. Indeed, we have OkFest. OkFest is an incubator, we have a startup bootcamp practically for startups to grow and to promote them. We have also, you know, Tessaloniki, you mentioned it several times before. Tessaloniki is in the center of a larger area. From Tessaloniki within three hours driving distance from Tessaloniki there are three capitals within seven hours driving distance. There are seven capitals of seven different countries. From Bulgaria, from North Macedonia, from Albania, from Serbia, from Romania, from Bosnia and Herzegovina, from Turkey. Tessaloniki also, as you have also mentioned several times, is a great place for somebody to live. It's a very nice city. There are many things to do. So young people like to live here. And you know all over the world the places where innovation has been developed are places that combine those two factors. Human capital and a nice place to live. Because young talented people like the ones here today, they like to live in nice places. They don't like to live in cold and nasty places. That's why all the big innovation technology centers are in nice places. They are in California. They are in Israel. Israel is a nice place to be. So I'm from Denmark. So there's a very nice weather for like a few days in a year. I'm joking. But this is perhaps a more comfortable place. Comfortable weather. Since you're coming from Denmark, you know, again, you have a lot of good universities. You have talented people. I know you are among the most competent centers for several areas like biopharmaceuticals, like bio-design, energy. But why you are so developed because you have taken care from the very beginning to take advantage of the advantages that you have. We are starting doing this now. We have to, you know, and we are trying to promote all these things. But you can potentially do it without the errors that other people did. You can take shortcuts. Potentially also Danish people can just come here, this freedom of movement. It's like we are one big country, right? Exactly. That's why I mentioned before that we are a very nice place to live. We have... We can provide you excellent life. You see. And low-cost airlines to go everywhere. Ryanair, EasyJet and Whithair. Okay. Some things can be done on that. We must... Actually, the airport has been recently privatized. There are a lot of works that are in progress there. And we hope that more lines will come. But coming back to your question before. When Silicon Valley started, it started in the 1940s, end of the 1940s. It took them more than 30 years to be recognized. I mean, in the 1970s, the beginning of the 1970s, very few people were speaking about Silicon Valley. We have all started speaking about Silicon Valley, but in the 1970s. Today, they lead the innovation. This means two things. It means that you need time to have success in this. On the other hand, the new sites where innovation was developed, it didn't take 30 years as it took in California, in San Francisco. This is because all of them, they built on the experience Silicon Valley had. So, coming into the play a little bit later, we can profit from the experience that other places had. Of course, we must always see what are our advantages and we must capitalize on them. And I said to you, our biggest advantage is the human capital. And the EU Commission, there's a new EU Commission coming up. After kind of what they did to Greece, let's say, I'm joking, but kind of, right? They should also be very interested in helping out, right? And promoting this also and maybe helping to fund some things here. Yes, actually, I believe that it is ourselves first we have to put the terms and say where we can invest and how we can move on. But I believe that the European community would like to help us and also I believe that innovation is one of the pillars of the European community for the next years. And it should be the main pillar for the growth of Greece. And I'm happy because, you know, we have elections in three days here. Both major parties state that innovation is among the priorities. And I hope that this will be proven in the days after the elections. So it's important for the jazz, but it's also important for the solutions that come out for the society that make the life better for everybody in society. And it's all derivatives of all kinds of new inventions, technology, nanotechnology and all this kind of stuff. Correct. You see, Albert Einstein said once, that it's not possible to do exactly the same things and expect a different outcome. So it's obvious that the model we head up to now for growth cannot work anymore. We have to do something different. And being a little bit, you know, I'm saying this over and over again, but I really believe that our big advantage is human capital and all the other things that we have in order to develop innovation, to develop an economy of knowledge.