 Not your dad, you see your dad. And so you're saying the bomb went off in Ealing? Yes. But I was out of my house Was going to help with you to go on an arty of mine. Yeah. starfling my home house, came out of my little tiny house. then we were queuing up for fish and chips. and we heard this great noise you know. ac yn ymwneud i ddweud gweithio am dda, dwi'n meddwl i'n… ond dwi'n meddwl i'n meddwl i'ch gyda'i chynnwys wath. Dyma dwi'n meddwl i'n meddwl i'ch ddeall dwi'n meddwl i bobl yn syniad! Dwi'n meddwl i'r ddeall i ddweud yn ymddangos i ddwybarthi! Dwi'n meddwl i ddeallr i ffishing. Just a single bomb, o'ch cornydd? I don't know now. I can't remember whether it was one of these that you don't hear coming and suddenly they dropped them. Because there was the doodle bugs and another sort wasn't there, and I can't remember what the other one was. Yeah, the V1 and the V2? Was that something like that? I can't remember the ideal. Y gallwch os rwy'n meddwl gyda'i... Rwy'n meddliad. Rwy'n meddliad. Is that remember which streets you lived in? Kerchin Road. Kerchin. By th'r kerchin o'r kerchin. We said K-I-R-C-H-E-N. If you pronounce it right it's Kerchin. Do you know which number it was? Six. Number six, Kerchin Road. Mae'n dyfodol yw pobled. Mae'r cyfnod gyda'r cyffredin o'r ddechrau ar y cwrin. Mae'n gyfnod y gwirio'r ffordd o'r tyfnodd. Mae'r ddau'r llaw'r gofyn ar ddiweddol, mae'n ddau'r cyffredin o'r ddau'r cyffredin. Mae'r ddau'r cyffredin o'r ddau'r ddau'r llaw o'r ddau? Mae'n ddau. Mae'r ddau'r ddau o'r gyrdd o'r ddau. Felly ydych chi fod yn ffordd, dwi gweithio'r bynnag. Felly mae'r bynnag wedi gweithio'r bobl ar gyfer y cwrs. Felly yw'r bynnag sydd ar gyfer y bynnag? Mae'n cael ei chyfyddi, dyma'r bynnag. Felly mae'n cael ei chyfyddi, dyma'r bynnag. Felly mae'r bynnag yn fynd ar gyfer y bynnag. Mae fyddai'r bynnag yn ddigonol. Mae'r ddisgwyd wedi'u rywbeth. Mae'r ddod yn tro. Mae'r ddod yn tro, gyda'n tro i. Mae'r ddod yn tro ti. Mae'n tro ei aud amser ychydig. Rydyn lefiad oes eich r zatenid, O, oedd wedi gw Casianyddo dda… Gwyddeithasio, mae wedi'i gweithio. Mae'r hyn yn 1838 o literature yna, mae'r ddeithydd gyda'r ddîm o mynd i'r trio. Mae'n mwyn grannol. O fod rai cyfosedd, mae Ewasiwn Charlotte Hospital? Banae Charlotte, mae'n Ew Llywodraeth, o'r eu Llywodraeth? Mae'n sefydlu ar Lylywodraeth. Mae'r methu e'n ddefnyddio, maen nhw'n gwneud y thamil yr oedd? Mae'r ddannu amser gyda hynny sy'n meddwl, ond mor heddiw ddim yn y ddefnyddio'r ffyrdd. Mae'n ddefnyddio'r ddechrau dilliddio i chi'n gwneud ar yr oedd yn ei ddefnyddio. Mae'ch weithio i'ch ei ddefnyddio i chi ddechrau arnynno. Rydyn ni'n y tro pedalion i'w dwi'n golygu. Rydyn ni'n golygu fy..? Rydyn ni'n golygu fy Aparam a ddim dyawn ar hyn, ac rydyn ni'n hollid yn ddeg nhw'n hollid adnu eu bod ni. Rydyn ni'n hollid ar yr athraff phoedd. Rydyn ni'n golygu. Rydyn ni'n golygu ond fe hynny yw hefyd yn gyffaint. Rydyn ni wedi gwneud y ddechrau. Rydyn ni'n golygu, rydyn ni wedi gwneud. Nod i chi'n golygu. Mae'r Amgwysol yn fawr iawn. Mae'n siŵr ffordd yn ymlaen. Felly rhai, rhai, mae---- Mae'r hwn. Rhaid i ran. Rhaid i rhaid i, rhai, mae'r hwn mae'r hwn wedi'i'r llwyfiad ar hyn i ddweud. Dyma, dyma, dyma, mae'n ffwrdd, rhaid i'r llwyfiadau.願 yw rhaid i'r hwn yn ei ddweud. Felly, mae'r hyn dressesi yn aman? Felly, mae'n ddaf o'r llwyfiadau. Rhaid i ni'n ddim yn i'r ffwllfa. Oni'n amdano dweud i'r gael. Dwi'n ddigonio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio cyllidau. Felly mae'r gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio ar y dyfodol, oes i'r gweithio'n gweithio ar gyferойnau'r hanfod. Rwy'n gweithio chi'n gweithio. Felly nad oeddech chi'n fwy llawer i'r gweithio? Oedd yn ymddangos ni'n gweithio'n gweithio? When he stayed there with me with mum and dad until he decided we ought to go over to Greenford, and lived there. So he lived there and moved over to there. Was that after the war that he moved? Yes. When your granddad was home. King stayed for a while and it was a fortnight or something at mum's. And then he said that we'd have to go to Greenford. Ac mae gennymwch arnynt. Mae'n meddwl am ychydig. Mae'n meddwl am yw'n meddwl am ychydig, ond yw'n meddwl ar y llad. Dwi'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl am ychydig. Rydyn ni'n meddwl am ddigonwch yn gyd, ddim oes bod yn gweld rhai. Dwi'n meddwl ar y cwrtaeth, a chyfnodd ar y cwrdd, i'n meddwl am ychydig. Rydyn ni'n meddwl am ychydig? Mae wedi bod ni'n meddwl, yna sicrhau mae'n meddwl i'r ffair, gallwn fuddiadau yn rhoi. Mae'r ddaeth! Merdwch, mae incisbog roedd mor gyda'ch hadd. Mae wedi m Mae'n meddwl i'r minnw i sianadau, ac mae'n meddwl i'r redd. Mae'n meddwl i'r redd, ac mae'n meddwl i'r redd, ac mae'n meddwl i mi? Mae dydyn ni'n meddwl i'r redd. er i chi wedi gwneud. Wedi chi wedi'i yn ôl, da'n olygu. Rydyn ni'n gwneud y teimlo i'u meddor. Tynno, cyd-tyny'n meddwl ar ôl. Unwch mi gwen y gwaith yn Cth Cultivu Gwynebu. Fydde cyntaf chi'n meddor yma. Yn mynd, mae'n meddwl. Rydyn ni'n meddwl pan yw meddor yma? Fynnodol yn yw meddwl? Yny'r gwbl yn yw meddwl. Felly mae'n gwrth gwrdd. Rwy'n gwrdd. Mae'r snydd. Yr holl yma? Mae'r holl yn rwy'n gweld fel weithio. Rwy'n gwrdd i'r holl. Mae'r holl yn granddad. Mae'r holl yn rhaid i'r R-A-F. Mae'r holl yn rhaid i'r R-A-F. Mae'r holl yn rhaid i'r R-A-F. Mae rhaid i'r R-A-F. I know he told me that he hadn't got to talk but there would be a bit of a lump sum. He didn't discuss what he'd done in intelligence. Of course he didn't. This is more confusing because I don't know that much about what he did in RAF. I don't know. I don't know how to do I really. But it might be that he did work at the same time in intelligence. Yes because he used to say he'd go in this diary at spots. He says I've been to the nursery today. So the nursery must have been some name, some office that he had to go report to. Right. The nursery. The nursery. He still managed to get it down. And he was thrilled to know when he was... Because he got married and he's written it in days. It's the happiest day of my life so that was nice to read that. But he didn't say much when he was born. I think he was talking about it before he was born. But he didn't have a lot to say after he was born. That's what he was doing. Because when he came home he told me that some of the officers had photographs of their children. And they said, what a horrible specimen you've got here. Well I don't know whether it was to Eric. But some of the officers they might say it. I don't know how they could all survive. Because Grandad didn't really have an officer type background. No, he didn't. His dad had brothers. And his Grandad took them to Canada. They had to bring Alex back because he was too young. I said, well how on earth could he afford the passage? So I don't know whether it was Eric or someone else told me that it could have been like this. That they did go in from England to Australia didn't they? Had a package. And that was to Canada. But this was to Canada. And that was Eric's family. Yes, that's Eric's. Grandad did, from air. Because he used to go and stay with them I think in air. And they were only miners. So none of them was educated. What coal miners? And I think that Grandad didn't want the boys to go in that business. Oh right. Oh so they went to Canada to do mining. Because Alex couldn't stay because he was too young. But Alex fought in the first world war? Yes. That's when you met some Mrs Mossie. I forgot my name. Devinish her name. So her name was Devinish. Devinish? Devinish. That's her first name? Oh no, that's her name. Before she was married, yes. Devinish. Funny how her name just come to me like that. And I think she was an. I think she was an an. Because I was just, it was Elsie. She was just coming back to me. Elsie went to Australia. And Elsie and her husband only had Alan. The one son that rings me up occasionally from Australia. Yeah. So they met during the first world war? Yes. I don't know whether I've got a lovely photograph of her in this kilt. Oh, because he was sent home injured? I think so, I don't really know. My dad was injured, but that's when he met my mum. Oh, in the first world war? Yes. And this was, I don't know the names. Because I always knew his name was Nana Marshall. Yeah, Marshall. I didn't know her surname. Because sometimes you have to give your mother's maiden name. Yeah. I'd have to write them. My stand won't remember it now. But I'll remember it once upon a time. Oh, but their first names? Florence, she was Florence. Florence and your dad's name was? Aubrey. Aubrey. Marshall. Aubrey, Roberts, Marshall. Arm. Yeah. And your mum's name was Florence. I don't know her other name. But she didn't have a middle name. I don't know much about mothers. Alex, Moira's Alex, tried to do the, you know, go back to all our peoples. Right, yeah. And he came to a halt with my mum's people. Oh, really? Yeah. Because I thought we didn't ask things very much. Yeah. And I'm wondering if her mother, because her father was a merchant, a sea man. Yeah. And when he came to London, he was seeing another woman. Yeah. And now I didn't want to do with him. Yeah. So perhaps it had been something when they were younger. I don't know. Yeah. Because I think she was putting her children's home. Her auntie came and looked after her. And I think she ran away. Oh, do you know which children's home? No, it would be more like Middlesbrough up that part of the world. Is that where they're from? Well, I think it's Middlesbrough. I don't know where to play that. Because that's where she met my dad, I think in the hospital up there. In Middlesbrough? I'm sure it was Middlesbrough, one of the northern places. I don't know. As a day. Alex came to a halt. He couldn't get any further with my mum. With that side of the family. I mean, you could do if you go like they don't want to tell you. Yeah, yeah. You'd go through the records. That's her name. His name's Alex, as well as Eric's dad's name. Yeah. And then it's funny, because after the war, jumping back again, just with Eric. Dad was saying that he only remembered lately that Eric would show dad, show him things. They were just... You couldn't quite put your finger on them, but they were just slightly odd. I don't know if you ever mentioned this, but it's like he'd say things like, if you're on a train platform and you want to know when someone's going to get on a train. All you have to do is turn your back. But you know when the train's coming in because the people move forward. And it's just probably these little tips that were just about tailing people. That's how we talked to him. And he took him to Somerset House. Oh, yeah. Because Ian was a little boy. I would know how far the Christmas knew. So he thought that was an idea. And Eric took him to Somerset House. And then they found out that my mum was celebrating the birthday two days too early. So that's how he could say to Ian, that's how far the Christmas knows where you all are. That was a way of showing him, too. That was there. Yeah, funny. Because I think sometimes your granddad was quite... I'd say cruel to Ian. Because he didn't get on academically, like your granddad was capable of doing. I think that he's got to him sometimes. But then he was ever so good. Eric would go with him to the schools. And I want to know why. They interviewed your dad in one of the schools. I think they wanted to know why he hadn't got on. You see, we weren't all like granddad. I don't think he was... Because Jean comes along and he was a lot brighter. So I don't think he was fair sometimes with Ian. Because some of the time I said, he was jealous, I think, of Ian. I found that little boy there. I didn't know at the time. Later on I was jealous. I was just coming home from the war. There was someone else that I was loving. His grandparents were loving. My great-grandma was there as well. That's another mystery. What's that? She was called Mater. Sorry, this is great-grandmother on Eric's side. On your side? I've got a great-grandfather. Who married off... He was ever married to the previous woman. We don't know. Sorry, this is the... Grandfather of my dad's. Of your dad's? I've forgotten his name. It's Florence and... No, it's not my mum's at all. Right. Aubrey. Aubrey, that's right. He was a great-grandfather then, wasn't he? Yes. He was in the... I don't know. It was a mystery with their names. Really? Some of them went abroad to Canada as well from our side. My granddad was Robert Marshall. There was a William Marshall. That was an uncle. I could call him uncle. He was his brother. He was twice the size of my granddad. A bit like Ben. I don't need to talk twice the size of the others. My granddad was quite slight. Then we heard that they've got a name Cousin. As a surname? Yes. So how and why we don't know. Then he gets... Not jury service. Something like that. Something my great-granddad did. He meets this other woman. Her first wife had died and whether he'd never married her, I don't know. But he was supposed to be the illegitimate... illegitimate? It's the teeth, illegitimate. Thank you, I can't say illegitimate. Son of the Earl of Jersey. Now that's what we've... that's a bit of talk that we used to have. My mum and... What year would that have been then? Going back to late 1800s. My dad was born. It was in the late 1800s. In the 1900s. Or even 1900. He went into the war but he altered his age. He told a lie. He went in younger than... Your dad did? Albury Marshall? Yes, he did. I can't remember now. I didn't know it. That's what I've forgotten. All this titular title, I'm trying to think out... because we thought it was funny to be a cousin. Whether it was a cousin in America... that had written... only wondered if they'd taken the mother's name. His first wife. We all said whether he ever married her. We don't know. Then he met this other woman. A jury service. They mentioned it sometimes. He met her and married her. She wrote to my mum. That was during the war just before it. Had she got room that she could come and live with him. He had a housekeeper. He was getting on with it. She was going to move and live with her sister. We called her Grandma. Grandma could look after herself. She could come and stay at my mum's place. That's where all this came from. To my mum. The legitimate touchard of Earl of Jersey. We were hoping, I think, that... Alex Moran's son... could have found something, but I don't think he did. He'd have to delve further, but he hadn't got the time... to do what they do on the television. Kendra stands still with my mum. I'd bet he was an illegitimate child. That did happen, you see. Lot of that happened. I think that happened on mum's family. Two generations back. She just heard, didn't she? You heard about that? Her brother. She didn't know her mum. Was it her? Her mum was sent to her home. Her mum sent two of her brothers. The brothers went to her home, didn't they? Yes, because she fell blind. My mum, Vera, didn't know about any of this. She was always told that they'd gone missing in the war. But actually, when her mum went blind, basically the authorities took her two sons away, basically put them in her home. This woman who got in touch... I had managed to track her dad. She traced it, didn't she? Yes, she traced it back and found the home and went through the home's records. She didn't know that he'd had a natural mum and dad. It's all come out literally with this research that she had to give them up. When she was looking together bits of what he said, he did meet with them after he'd grown up. Oh, that's right. There's a member Vera saying he'd come home. They found him. Something or other. But it's funny because it meant that things that she was told suddenly made sense. Some of it wasn't right, you see, was it? Mum's sister was disapproving that this had happened. Mum remembered this, she just out of the blue, remembered this very specific row when she was about 14. She was a bit, you know. She probably wouldn't know what it was all about. Exactly. No, there was a row, that's right. Yeah, basically, I can't remember the context of it, but it was something... Well, yeah, there's something that was basically... Mum said, oh, mum, you know... Mum's a good mother. Something wrong with mum's a good mother and her sister in the heat of the row said, you know, you don't know what you're talking about. And then she remembered her mum's just suddenly closing the conversation. She just said, well, we're not going to talk anymore. But she didn't know what any of that meant. Cos one little brother was run over, wasn't he? Didn't he jump on the back of her? On a train. I don't know. I don't know. There was one where, yeah, a brother had... It might have been a shock for him, but it's incredible what her mum used to do. Yeah, blind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you were clearing out... Grandad's stuff that you found the gun. What was that? Yes. Was it two guns or one? No, one gun and an awful knife. I think I handed the knife into the police station. But he took the gun to pieces. He unscrewed it all. Oh, the policeman? No. Oh, Grandad? No, your Grandad showed it to me before he died. I said, you'd better get rid of that. It was a lovely, neat little gun. And he took it to bits. In front of you? So he knew how to take a gun apart? He must have done. Or was it like a handgun? A little tiny one, I think it was a German one. A Luger, was that? I don't remember now what he probably would know and tell me. It didn't make sense to me. But he knew how to dismantle it? Where did he keep it? He should have kept it in a box or something. He kept it in his room. Half the things I didn't know of what he got. Where was the knife? I don't know, he got that there. What in the office? Nothing, I did it at home. In the bedroom? Somewhere, it showed it to me. So when he'd gone, I took that to the police station. I would see. When you could hand in things. But the gun he dismantled. I think I put bits in different litter boxes. When I went out. Must have been 1988 round then. When we moved to Castle Dawl, Swindon, yes. Oh, it was when you moved? Swindon, yes. But you don't think he did any work after the war? No, I don't think so. I know it was in here too. He went out to London once or twice. I don't know who he met in London. He had to go to office in London. It was probably to do with what he was doing. I don't know. I never asked him. He had to learn what he was doing. I wanted to learn. I wonder if there's anything else anywhere else that refers to the nursery. You know, maybe it's all coming out. There's only a foot in there. Tended the nursery. Got to be at the nursery tomorrow morning at 5. That must have been like the headboard. I don't know why he called it the nursery. It must have been special. I thought it wasn't a proper nursery with a baby in it. We were gardening nursery. That's right nursery garden centre. That's really helpful.