 Hey guys, welcome to the next episode of the Roommates Podcast. Hello! We actually have to replace Brent. What a popular demand Brent's going to replace with Boomer the dog. Boomer is on a very tight contract. He might not be here for this whole video because he'll die. Well, that might, from age. That, he's just going to be a picky bastard, but I don't know if he has the energy to get off that couch. He almost fell getting on the couch. So we'll see. He might just die on the spot. We got some game stuff to talk about today and some movies, but we're going to actually start off with something we just saw. Jedi Outcast 2 is coming to the PS4 and the Switch. I don't have either of those consoles, but Matt has both and Michelle has it. And we have some shit. We thought it would be an interesting way to talk about Star Wars games in general, how he has fucked them up, as well as just ones that we've liked in the past over the years. So, like, did either of you guys play Jedi Outcast? Yeah, I loved it. What? No one played? Why is there another laptop? No, I only played the original Battlefront. Really? You didn't play Jedi Outcast 2? No, I only played the original Battlefront and I played Old Republic. Jedi Outcast 2 is basically... I never got into the game. It's one of the pillar Star Wars games. This one is the one that really had it. Every time that there's been Star Wars lightsaber combat, people have referenced this game ever since. And this game came out back in the days of the PlayStation 2 and the Xbox. And that's how much the combat mattered. It was complicated as fuck. It was really weird, just the combat aspect of Jedi Outcast 2. Oh, yeah, that was sweet. And it's such a popular game that there's a mod of Jedi Academy that has constantly updated the game, put in new character skins, updated the graphics, and there's a dedicated multiplayer. I think Jedi Academy was better than Outcast, but that's... Speaking of Jedi Academy, which I was going to ask you about, I don't remember the details of the conversation, because it did take place in a bar and I was a few in, but I was talking to somebody about Rey. Who drinks her guys? Who knows. Ooh, Brann's gone, so he doesn't need to know. What happened the first days of the bar? But we were talking about Rey and how it really... Remember, we were talking about how it really bothered me that she was a perfect character. And his counter was, did you play Jedi Academy? And I was like, no, I never looked him. He's like, if you played Jedi Academy, that wouldn't bother you. Oh, because your character... So, because you have played that game, what is... Your character is not perfect in Jedi Academy. You're a flawed human being named Jaden. But then the argument was also made that Rey's fatal flaw is she has a fucked up moral compass. What? That it's so straight, it's straighter than straight? Hers is, but she struggles with a character. I don't know. She doesn't have one. There's no struggle. I don't like her as a character. We can all agree on that. Every conversation goes back to Rey being stupid, just as a character. Interesting to think she... Daisy Ridley? Daisy Ridley. Does a really good job with the content she has. Yeah. But does Jedi Academy just playing that game... make the problem with Rey being a perfect character? I don't see where the correlation is. I don't really because your character is just going through different motions and there is a point where you get to choose whether they go good or bad. Mainly it's all because of this one little asshole friend Jedi character. I hated that character. Yeah, he was like that annoying little asshole that was running all the time and eventually he goes evil. Jayden, I'm gonna go do something cool. It's like no, you're doing something stupid. You have the choice of whether to save him or kill him and if you kill him you go fucking full ham evil. But if you save him then you're kind of... So you go full ham evil, do you go fatal one horns and flies evil? No, you just get really hammy. The voice acting is very hammy. Yeah, it's so good. I don't see what the correlation between Rey's character development and a very very old 90s video game. That's the standard. Well, so standard Jedi progression. You start off as a Padawan, they need to just like go through the motions and then there's obviously story, but it's an older game. You can't expect super character development. And even then, like I said, the game still has a pretty good following. Yeah, it is still better than Rey. Yes. I'm kind of interested that they're redoing it. It was an interesting counter that was brought up and I was like I haven't played the game, so I don't know. Well, I don't know, he's not even talking about Kyle Katarn because Kyle Katarn was in both Jedi Outcast. He's a teacher in Academy. Yeah, in Academy. He's one of the best characters, like legends characters. Because he was a stormtrooper that became a Jedi and his idea is basically what Finn is in the new movies. But the idea that they're bringing this game back is pretty cool because this game is worth like 60 bucks on original Xbox and PlayStation. You played the games before Outcast, right? Like Jedi Knight 2? Dark Forces, wasn't it? Yeah, Dark Forces. I didn't play it, but I've heard that. I loved it. You got the live action cutscenes and stuff and then you can actually choose, depending on the story, you actually get a different colored lightsaber and stuff like that. It's pretty cool. I probably used those nostalgia goggles, but it was an excellent game. I have heard a lot of people do give Dark Forces a lot of praise. What's another Star Wars game like pre-EA? So this would be like pre-Maxbox. What was Darth Vader's apprentice? Oh, the Force Unleashed. Oh, I just played a bit of that one too. I liked that one. One was really good. I loved it. Two, short. I never actually beat it, but I heard it was cool. Hayden Blackman was the creative director for the first game. That wasn't EA, was it? No, that was LucasArts. But he was contractually obligated to make the second one and he didn't want to. He was gone before the game even went gold. Obviously, ones that stand out are Knights of the Old Republic. That was a good one. You loved that series, right? I still haven't finished it. Oh, it's so good. There's a lot to it. Do you want a spoiler? I know the spoiler. You're actually Revan. Yeah, I know. Oh, spoiler alert. For those who haven't played a, what, 30-year-old game, I'm sticking with 30. I look it up, but I realize this is my work laptop. Empire at War, I think that was their RTS game that they made. I really enjoyed that one. Especially because you could do the space battles and then you could get all the Star Destroyers and then send them at the Rebels. And then there was a cinematic camera that would just have all these, you know, epic cinematic cameras of all the ships going and I just watched that for like 10 minutes. Pew, pew, pew, pew. I can't, any other ones. Obviously the original Battlefronts. Yeah, Battlefront 1 and 2. Those are sweet. There's a lot of fun. Oh, Podracer. Oh, yeah. Bounty Hunter. Republic Commandos. Oh, yeah. Republic Commandos is fantastic. I actually, I had a teacher at Art Institute of Vancouver who worked with the guys who worked on that game. And I asked, are they ever going to make another one? I was like, no man, they can't. And that was only like three years after the game was released. George Lucas shot the aspect of it down. And that game had a pretty complex AI strategy. For your guys, right? That was a competent squad. Yeah, those are good times. What are some good post-EA games that you guys have played? Man, I was hyped for Battlefront. They hyped it. Yep. And then I bought it and I was like, wow. Here's the problem. Okay, here's the problem. This is why it sucks and it's terrible. Anyway, Disney gets the rights to Star Wars and they're like, we don't know how to do video games. We do movies and stuff and merchandise. We're good at that. All right, let's find a very popular publisher. Hey, EA is over there. You guys do it. You guys want it and EA is like, yes. And then they're like, money. And then for seven, six years. Yeah, and Disney is maybe producing games. Finally noticing that they suck, hopefully. Oh, the Star Wars 2 Battlefront is still fiasco. It's still being talked about today. It's stupid. It's an absolute... It's incredible how badly EA has fucked it up. However, though, I do understand why Disney just gave it to EA. They didn't know any better. Well, they don't like making video games. No, which is why they didn't know any better. They're like, EA, they're great. Well, they don't think this is profitable. Yeah. Because they did have, there was a phase, particularly with the 360 PS3 phase, where there was a couple of games that were made by Disney Interactive. There was the Tron game. There was Epic Mickey. They had two games of that. There was a random car game called Split Second, which was produced by Disney, which was weird because it was all about cars and whatnot. And there was a huge Pirates of the Caribbean game being produced by propaganda games here in Vancouver. And it was a $100 million plus project into a video game. And then Disney just was like, yeah, done. We'll just cancel this. And it was huge. A lot of people were working on that game. I didn't even know about that one. Well, that was when the gaming crash happened in 2010. What's the new Star Wars game again? I got a Joker from Gotham TV show on it. Oh, Fallen Order? Yeah, Fallen Order. Have you seen any? I haven't. That was the one where they're trying to make like a tone down version of Force Awakens. Yeah, which why? You can't even... Oh! I took down a goddamn Star Destroyer. Like, come on, that was awesome. Why would they make a tone down version? I guess the real power now, grounded you want to be with the Jedi powers and stuff. You can't even cut off limbs, which was something that was really cool about the Jedi outcast. You could cut off heads and arms and legs off of the stormtroopers. And then they'd be like, Aaaaaaahhhh! Really? Yeah. But you love to cut off limbs, Jeremy. You did sit and fall out and shoot limbs until they would come off of their bodies. Oh, yeah. But hey, yours is cool. Psychopath. You spent like a strange amount of time in it. Well, there was a one time where a character glitched in my game and he was like, he was just hovering there as I felt... And it just started chopping him up like kind of like a filet fish. Yeah. Anyway. Well, the story. Get the Star Wars license away from EA. Yeah. Get it to some competent. Take it away. You know, like Activision. Yeah. Gift to Bungie. They... Nah, Bungie's too small. I don't know about it. Who would do a good job with Star Wars license? Well, I would say Raven. But... What do they do? They made Jedi Outcast. Oh. But they're still around. No, they're Activision's bitch now, unfortunately. The last major game that they made themselves was the Wolverine, the movie game. What if Blizzard got Star Wars? That would be kind of cool. Darth Vader walking out the giant ass shoulder pads and it's like he was actually... I would love to see a strategy game made by them. A Star Wars strategy game. They're remaking Warcraft 3. That's detracting though. Yeah, I don't know who would do a good job with... I think it depends on what kind of game they wanted to make. It doesn't matter. If there's a publisher who has a license, they can make a wide variety. The first person shooter is the RPGs. That sandbox game that was supposed to be coming out. Yeah. Like another pod racing game. That would be sweet. Don't have a single... A pod racing. Yeah. Don't have a single pod racing. This is pod racing. It's like the only thing that people liked about the Phantom Menace was pod racing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But I feel they should do what they did before. LucasArts was the publisher and then they had different contractual obligations with different developing companies. So what happened to LucasArts? Money and Lucas and... Oh, George Lucas sold LucasArts with Star Wars? Yeah. Disney is making something called Lucas Games. So this might be their possible replacement for EA. They're going to be making games under this banner. EA is making it to get away from EA? No, no. Disney is making it. Disney is making this development company. Good. Maybe it will suck for a little bit and get better. Yeah. It would be nice and if anything, it can be the same thing as LucasArts was. Just a person that the games are made through but they have different developers. They let other developers try new things. You have that one, like, you know, the producers, publishers that can have the direction and the focus that you get. Yeah. Cool. What fucking boomer looks like he's dying over there? I think he's hot but he doesn't want to admit it. Well, I think he doesn't, like, I can't get off his couch. Maybe he's a dog and he can't properly convey those feelings. And he's getting screeches, isn't he? He's so conflicted. Do you want to go? His time's up, let him be. Do you need to go? What's next on the agenda? The second part. The 13 reasons why. The third season just came out and it was three seasons now? Yeah, I know. I knew that the third season was coming. I didn't know it was out until I saw the trailer. I'll admit the trailer is well edited. It's a pretty good trailer. But we made it through the first season and we were like, okay, you made a couple that won. You made it through. I was last the third season live. I'm just gonna mop up everything from the second. Bryce died. It was Bryce. The whole first season, I'm Bryce and I'm a rapist. I'm Bryce, I'm a rapist. He's so rapy. Aren't they all in high school? Yeah. He clearly does not look like he's in high school. He's got a hashtag me too, he looks like he's post college age. That's how oldest dude looks. Welcome to like. I'm just confused about the storyline. The key point and most memorable point in season two was when they fucked up their lipstick. Yeah, they had that. And then they almost school shooting that happened. Another kill, Bryce, is Bryce the rapist. Yeah, Bryce, Bryce, Bryce. We've already replaced him, it's okay. Is Bryce the rapist now going to become the poor Bryce? The victim? Yeah. Rapist victim. It's a stupid show. Hey man, whatever gets the controversy is going, man. I haven't heard that many about this. Mind you, I don't, I haven't looked into this at all. Your Facebook didn't blow the fuck up. No? Oh thank god. I remember people just talking about it. Who was this great advocation of suicide awareness and what not? Someone said it in a short term. This makes, this romanticized suicide. Hey, you want to get back at those people who fucked your life? Make a bunch of tapes and then kill yourself. Honestly, the most, I think maybe it started off conceptually as like the, you know, let's talk about, you know, sensitive things like suicide and stuff and now it's just like, ooh, let's see what the edgiest thing we can add. Oh, because people are going to love that. I think they're trying to shock people. I mean, they fucked a kid with a broomstick. Yeah, they're like, and he didn't even go to the hospital. That motherfucker would have been like destroyed inside. That broomstick was fucking red all the time. He would have been... Maybe it's not this first rodeo. Dear god. Like, he was walking fine. I was like, oh, I'm a little bit stiff. Dude, your entire organ system is fucked. You should have been dying from blood loss and ruptured spleen, anus and everything. Full disclosure, I've never seen a single episode. I've seen bits and pieces. None of us has seen season three. The one positive I don't give? The show is well edited. It's very well edited. I'll give it that. I remember watching it, this is fucking trash, but at least it's put together well. It's well edited trash. Yeah. And it's got goosebumps in it. But you can polish a turd and it's still a turd. Yeah, that's true. I... He doesn't want to go. I know, he's like, he needs to, but he doesn't want to go. He doesn't want to give up the lifelike. He's like, oh, I've had a taste now. One more. Bring me caviar dog sticks. Homer has been over-discounted on his Instagram, but Homer doesn't do discounts. He only does free. You can manage him. Okay. Oh my god. A big stab. You guys want to have an autograph, signing session with Boomer? Talk to me, we'll set it up. We'll figure something out. We'll get some merch, Perif Panela, you know all that stuff. We've got Boomer posters, we've got Boomer masks, we've got pre-autographed of both. We have his one track album, with Gusto. What's our next topic? Topic number tries. Going back to French for three. Oh wait, we actually have a little super fast shout out to Carlos for YTV. Carlos? He left YTV. The dude who looks like he has an age, except his hair got a little bit shorter. He's on E.T. Canada now. Do you remember when he joined? What? Yeah. Can you imagine? He's been doing it for so long. He's just stuck in that YTV persona. He was on that for over a decade. Well, he means there was sugar. A lot of sugar. She had the most annoying voice. Did he join with the woman that was just after sugar? No. Sugar was the last woman. No, there was a woman after sugar. I don't remember that. She had like these cool buns and braids. Yeah, she was after sugar. Wait, was she the weekend people? On the weekend YTV had two people, but for the whole week it was sugar. And then Carlos and sugar, and then it was just Carlos. Welcome to Nostalgia Corner. My parents hated me watching because they thought she was super annoying. Oh yeah, everyone commented. I can't even replicate, it's been so long. Honestly, honestly, honestly, honestly, honestly. She had a very high-pitched voice and she disappeared off the face of the earth and then, what was that movie with? Wait, she wasn't a movie? Yeah, what's that name? Adam Levine. Adam Levine. Devine? Adam Levine is from Maroon 5. Yeah, no, the other Adam, Adam Devine. Yeah, Devine, this guy. Wait, doesn't Adam Devine? This guy. Oh! Yeah, he was in a movie called Once and What Not. His middle name's Patrick. They need a date. He was on Workaholics for the longest time. Where is it? Mike and Dave need wedding dates. She's in that movie. What's her real name? Not being super creepy stalker-ish, but... I'm actually kind of curious too. Wait, her name is actually Sherlin Bird. Sherlin Bird? Beard? Oh, that's such an anticlimactic name. She's Canadian. Did she change it to sugar or was she born sugar? She did a lot of voice acting for the longest time. Oh, she's in Beyblade! Yeah! She was in King of the Hill? Let her rip! She's been on The Flash? What? Wait, whoa, wait. Becky Sharp hazarded. She was hazarded. Gosh dang, I gotta rewatch The Flash. I'm just happy for Carlos because every time I go to my mom's house and we flip through the channels and be on YTV, I saw him on YTV when I was recovering from my surgery. What's Cable like these days? I don't know, I haven't been there in a while. I got watched and was like, oh yeah, there's the ads. Not that there's so many streaming services, I might just go back to Cable. Cable did get a little wise. One of the big things that they were, at least here in Canada with the CRTC rules, is something that was killing them was you couldn't just buy the channels you wanted. You had to buy packages and people were getting fed up with that shit. I met a couple. Now we have to buy packages. They're just Netflix, Amazon Prime, Google, whatever. Oh man, so decent. Now this became an M rated video. He's just gobbling on it. It's just his tummy, it's nothing gross. Oh, it's his tummy, okay. I'm forgetting from my old age. I forgot what it feels like. What you all looking at now? Where am I? That's right. Oh bug, food. Hey guys, welcome to the zone. God damn it, sorry guys, it's just ingrained. Imagine all the firsts his first day on ET Canada. It's like, alright, so we're going to talk about SpongeBob. God damn it, I mean Scarlett Johansson. ET Canada is so weird, there's so much less drama than YTV. Fuck it. Shut up, everyone. The last thing we'll talk about is the Mandalorian trailer. Yeah. Now has anyone seen it eating this besides me? I saw it. Okay. We watched it together. No one tells me what's going on in each episode, so it's like, go on and fly. Could you imagine if it's the same actor? Is the actor revealed for you? I think I know who it is. Watch it be the guy who always plays the fricking bounty hunter in space sci-fi. It's like some serenity. Actually, why can't I remember his name? Just close it, close it. Actually, it's Pedro, what's his name from? He was in Narcos. He played the very short-lived character in Game of Thrones Season 5. He was the one who was like... Oh yeah, I can't remember his name. Abram? Let me just google it. That guy, I think, is the Mandalorian. Okay. Because I remember him being taught by them. He's gonna do their final reveal. He takes off his helmet. Hello there. Oh my god. Mandalorian gets striked out. Kenobi. And that's what they did. Do you know how hilariously pissed off everyone? Oh man, April 1st can't come soon enough. I do that's probably why I'm not allowed to be a producer. Pedro Pascal. Pedro Pascal, yes, that actor. That's who I think. He can't be a Mandalorian man. Did you watch him in Game of Thrones? No, isn't he short? No, he's tall. Okay. No, he had one of the best characters in Game of Thrones Season 4. He was really good. And he was only in it for like six episodes? Season 5, he said. Oh, I meant Season 4. I can't remember the seasons. But I like the idea of it. I don't know if you saw, but he pulled a guy. A guy was trying to run. He shot him in the back. Yeah, it looks like there's gonna be some mature content in this show. Have you made it art or what? I don't know. There's an HBO. No, it's Disney. Oh yeah, it's Disney. I think they'll push it as far as they can. Jon Favaro is the producer of the show. Oh, he does the Spider-Man. No, Iron Man. Yes. Movies. So there's... Yeah, he's happy. Yeah. There's a chance. I think this so far looks like the... Okay. Aside from Rogue One, this is the best thing that Star Wars is. Like, this of the new Star Wars. That looks like a chance to be one of the best. But they really need to figure out what their kind of direction is for their platform. Is it gonna be more like the nitty-gritty, like HBO type stuff? Amazon Prime. Yeah. Kind of thing. Like, Netflix kind of borderlines. Well, Netflix Marvel had a pretty cool relationship because the Marvel movies were like PG-13 and then Netflix Marvel was like, yeah, we're gonna go fuckin' as close to 18 days as we can. Yeah, so like, Disney's gonna have to strike kind of a middle ground because like, the Star Wars as a whole is generally family-friendly with some dark tones. Yeah. Like, you can tell that like the Star Wars stories like Han Solo and like the... Yeah, Rogue One is a bit dark as well. I would say, yeah, I can understand when you're coming from there. I remember reading a zombie novel called Death Troopers. I read that. That was hilarious. It did not work at all. I feel that there has to be a certain level. I think 14A is the farthest you could put Star Wars. You could push it into the movie. You could put it into like 18A or R or whatever. Like, you can't search. Kids can't watch it. No. And then there goes your money. Because they're already losing money from the toys which aren't selling. Yes, because they're kind of stupid. Well, no one wants to buy all the movies. Why do you think they're adding nostalgic old, a new hope and like original trilogy stuff in their trailers now? Oh yeah. It's supposed to be a homage, but it's... Remember the good old days? They're really pushing it. I have hope for this show. I have more hope for that show than I do for the Rise of the Skywalker movie. So do I, honestly. They've done better with series than they have in movies like this, so I have more hope for this. What was their other series? Well, all the anime series were good. Oh yeah. So they've done pretty good with series. So I'm just hoping that this one isn't shit. And the Mandalorian stuff is really cool. Especially if they don't go Boba Fett. Like, that's a lot of people thinking this is a Boba Fett character. I would be okay with that, but if it's not him, that would be even cooler. Just a brand new character. In the Clone Wars series, they touched on like the Mandalorian planets and the moons and the civil conflict there. There's a whole season on that. There's a lot of really cool stuff that they could go into. Boba Fett had his own little thing, too, going on in there. And Rebels, yeah. Baby Fett. Baby Fett. Boba Fett. Baby Fett. Baby Fett. It's like all over here and you're a cute little bounty hunter. Yeah, so if the TV series takes off and it's good, and like, you know, D&D actually do their... I have no hope for them, but the Old Republic or whatever the next trilogy is going to be, like that's their redeeming chance. Get this TV show. Well, Reeve Johnson is attached with that, too. Yes, but this time he doesn't have all creative control. No. He had that last time. He's like, great, let me pull up my fan fiction that I'm asking him to as a child. Three heads is better than one. Yeah. But like, D&D are really good at taking source material and making it into watchable material. But then when they have their own stuff, they're like... As long as they can take from the books and stuff as references, though they're not good at references, hopefully something can be made with that. Because I think Ryan Johnson is a decent director. He shouldn't have creative control over anything. I find that he's good at world building and some of his own things. Looper is one of my favorite movies. Yeah, that was Ryan Johnson. When he was cat, when he was selected as director for last year, I was like, oh cool, we're looking forward to this. And then I'm like, oh man, bro, it's really hard to be a fan of yours right now. Yeah, so it might be the movie and or movies that redeem them, but I know I'm not even going to pretend until I start seeing something. So as long as these shows start taking off and they're popular, that might actually be able to ride out the fan base until those movies come out. Because I rise to sky work. I don't think it's going to be good to promise. I have more excitement for making the next Michael Bolton Star Wars music video than I do for watching that movie. Okay, those are gold. They are. And you guys will see them eventually. We're going to start making the third one soon. No. Have you gone back and watched those? No, no. He must have watched them. The camera work in the second one that Sean and I got you with your wig blown in the wind? I've seen them. I have not rewatched them. So good. Oh, I've rewatched them. I've showed them to multiple people. It's coming. It's coming. Let me be in the next one and I'll like it. Oh, all right. We're going to have budget. We're going to do like a teaser trailer. Oh my God. He's going to go full denim. You may really get a little bit of a nicer wig. If you guys know any better, stop watching these. It's just going to lead to Michael Bolton Star Wars Christmas. Oh, man. I know. It's September. Maybe it's a little too early to break out the Michael Bolton Christmas album. The moment Halloween's done, Christmas is up. Yeah, Michael Bolton starts in this house. Jeremy and I get kind of drunk, put on Michael Bolton Christmas music. Lord and savior, Michael Bolton. Yeah. You guys just wait. We have a Halloween special planned. It's going to be lit as all the children say. Anyway, I think that basically concludes what we're going to talk about today. I mean, dinner is a wardrobe. Yeah. I know. I guess a wardrobe is ridiculous. All right, guys. Hope you enjoyed this episode. We are sellouts. So, you know, whatever you've got. We will take it. Yeah. Put your suggestions in the comments below and we'll see what we can talk about next time. Anyways, until then, see you guys later. Bye. I'm very aggressive with my women.