 If I ever got a piece, I think the market would crash. I think everybody would be very poor. Because without this thinking, you would see numbers that you wouldn't believe in reverse. I think the president has much less influence over the economy than his journey publicized by the president himself. Whenever the economy goes up, the president always wants to take credit for it. Whenever the economy goes down, the president wants to avoid responsibility. And I think it's been that way in our country ever since we started. Jimmy Carter telling Neil that President Trump has far less influence over the economy than he thinks. But with a dull search since the election, would the rally really continue to go at least with this sort of resolve without the president's policies? Join me now, John Tammany with RealClearMarkets.com, Fox News contributor Jonas Max Fares, and Melissa Armo with Stock Swoosh. Melissa, I'll start with you. In impeachment, and I think President Trump also was alluding to if he was ever forced out of office, how will those scenarios impact this rally in the economy? I definitely think it would impact markets because the markets have liked Trump. The market has rallied ever since the day after the election. So you've got to give someone that credit to Trump. And really, also, it is his policies, the tax cuts, the rollback of some of these regulations, the repatriation of cash back into the US. You see the effects of the market. It's making new highs, literally almost every day, just in the last two weeks. John, in the soundbite that we use of President Carter, what we didn't have is he went on to say that the president does influence business. And that's one of the key components, I think, to what we're seeing in this economy. Business spending doesn't get a lot of press, but it's a renewed confidence, I think, that's making a big difference right now. What are your thoughts? Well, yeah, Carter somewhat got it backwards. He forgets that his weak dollar policies put a big chill on businesses on the stock market, just as they did for George W. Bush. Conversely, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton had strong dollar policies. This was a magnet for capitals. The idea that presidents don't impact the stock market and businesses is foolhardy. But I think you hit on the crucial point. Impeachment is not being pushed out of office. I think impeachment would lead to massive gridlock, which markets would love. You know, Jonas, if you look back to the Bill Clinton saga, at the very worst, it was sideways. The biggest hit to the market came in the days running up to the Kin Star Report. After that, it was okay. Yeah, I don't see a huge market collapse. Look, I think it's very opportunistic. It's very Machiavellian in a clever way for the president to actually scare people. You know, every president's benefited from a strong economy before, but he's the first one to like threaten you that it could get bad if he's not there. Dad said, you're not gonna impeach the policies. We've already got the corporate tax cuts. The regulations are already gone. Pence and the Congress, they're not gonna make these go away anytime soon, so the market can already ride on that. Moreover, I'll tell you, the only real weight on the market right now is the tariffs with China. And Mike Pence, if he suddenly became president, Mr. Indiana, that state is not into tariffs with China. You've got soybean sales to China. You've got Cummings Engine celebrating over 40 years in China, big engine manufacturer from Indiana. That's gonna get swept under the rug very quickly. So I would say the opposite could be the case. Again, I'm not denying Trump's benefited the market, but we've gotten a lot of that benefit now in the policy that policy's not gonna go away no matter what happens. And Mike Pence is a, he won't say it, but he's a pro-China trade person because of where he's born and from. Yeah, you know, although Melissa, I don't think Pence would deviate from any of Trump's policies, including using tariffs as a weapon, not as a long-term economic policy, but using them as a weapon to open up China's markets even further, to make it fairer trade. Of course, I think everyone in the White House loves doing business with the largest population in the planet, just to like to see it be a fair business achievement. Yeah, listen, I'm not saying, let me be clear, I'm not saying the markets would crash if Trump got impeached. I'm saying the markets would have a negative reaction. And I definitely think, even if for some reason, even though I think it's a long shot, if Trump was impeached and Pence got in, he does not have the same method to the way that he does things, even though the policies are Republican policies, the tax cuts are done, that's true. The way that Trump does things is different than the way Pence would do things. And I don't think you'd see the same reactions to the policies in Washington and around the world if Pence got in. And I'm telling you, I think Trump has a better, he is a better person to carry through with these ideas and the market would like it better than Pence. It's not about the policies. They are the policies that are Republican policies, but it's the person that's got to get them done. Trump is the one that got the tax cuts done. John, we did see an immediate reaction to President Trump amongst business, particularly small business. NFIB, that November 2016 survey before the election and after the election was like completely night and day, when parabolic after his election. Is there an intangible to President Trump that there wouldn't be, to say, a President Pence? It's possible. You can't deny that a rally that was already in place took up greater speed under Trump. You could point to deregulation. You could point to pretty good tax cuts. But to Max's point, the trade stuff has plainly scared the markets. And so there's a bearish side to President Trump too. I think what he misses out on is that it's the natural state of people to grow for companies to grow. It's when Washington intervenes that we're in trouble. We don't need Washington to manage the trade that always and everywhere occurs among individuals, not between countries. We don't need Google to be regulated. It's one of the most valuable corporations on earth. Trump's got to realize that what has helped him could also hurt him if he moves away from his deregulatory pace. I've got to tell you, it looks like he does not care about that as much as the grievances that he believes in. And it looks like a lot of the voters so far believe in that as well. Thank you all very much. I always appreciate it. 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