 In your 2013 game against Aroni and Atata, when you played 15 for black, Bishop c5, all the ensuing combinations and tactics, how much of that were you seeing in advance? So that's literally this position, right? And I played Bishop c5. So I'll tell you, I spent 25 minutes in this position because I couldn't remember a thing. I vaguely remembered that, sorry, I'll move the pieces right here, that if he goes h3 then this is the draw. And that's what he should do, right? And that's a draw. And Bishop e4 then? That is some draw. I think you take and Bishop b8 and then this knight is loose. And the details are a thing. But when you played f4, I thought this move I don't remember at all. And I was searching, racking my brain to find out why and I could not figure it out. Then suddenly I had this almost something flashed in my head. And this knight was on this square on d3. In your head? In my head. I suddenly, some variation flashed where I had a knight on d3. I couldn't for the life of me connect it, but I started to look, is there something, there are obvious moves anyway, I can do this, trying to get to d3. I can play e5, all based on the same idea as in the game. But none of them seem to work. This one is too slow, he takes and these things. This one, I mean he'll allow me to take and recapture it. So what's the deal? Eventually by elimination, I realized it must be bishop c5, there's nothing else. But once I started to look at bishop c5, it started to look good to me. And then it closes very fast. It's like if I'm finding out 80% of the map, then the rest fills in very fast. It gets accelerated. And you knew knight dE5 was coming at that point. That was a thing. So I'll tell you, I played bishop c5 because if I, if he takes, I take, he captures here, then my dream, my vision, whatever is check and knight captures d3. And then that knight which pops into d3 works. So that's all I had to reconstruct, but it is beautiful that with little, I was able to reconstruct it. Now I went here, Aronian was a bit shocked because he had not given it a lot of attention. But it was very courageous on him, his part to even get here. Because I had prepared this for a match against Gelfand and the guy lets me and basically says, show me what you got. Show me what you and your team spent a month on. That's, it's brave, but it's also kind of irresponsible. I mean, unless you've checked it yourself very thoroughly. So he seems to be slightly flippant about it. Anyway, after bishop e2, the rest played itself. For me, bishop c5 took 25 minutes. I don't remember knight d5 might have taken me five minutes, but more because I was double checking and I haven't done anything. But this came effortlessly because already we are talking of, this knight has to support this one. The queen and bishop are going to flood into d4. Knight f2 check is going to win, all these little dots. So while this is maybe the most spectacular move, it's the less difficult move to find, especially once you have done this. So now if you ask me, before I saw bishop c5, did I see knight d5? I did not even see bishop e2. I was more focused on the main thing. I didn't see bishop e2. So once he played bishop e2, the obvious, everything else failed itself and I flooded in. And of course, the big advantage was by now, Rotley v. Rubinstein was coming into my head. So I knew that, I knew what happens. Well, we'll get that structure a bit later, but I knew what happens when you get this bishop, this bishop all pointing in this direction. Smothered mate, h3 becomes impossible. Roughly speaking, this was Rotley v. Rubinstein with the knight here and it's a classic game in chess history. And so I knew the patterns and all the details, check out. So once I played knight d5, the rest came pretty fast. There was only one more thing I had to find. King h1, knight takes g4. Again, every move loses except what he did. And then f5 is a brilliant move. f5 is fantastic because for a dangerously long time, and later on you shiver when you shudder when you realize what you could have done, for quite some time I considered this move. Yeah, but then queen h7 and it's the draw, right? Or maybe you're even worse? Maybe even I'm worse. But the beauty is it was, this move was slightly easier to find because seven years ago, Kramnik had allowed queen h7 against Fritz, mate. And Kramnik and pretty much everyone said, there is no way I would have allowed queen h7 if the knight had been on f6. Because to a human, immediately it signals danger all over the place. But in knight on f8, you almost forget it's there. Whereas for a computer, it sees that both moves allow queen h7. So at some point I realized, oh my god, queen h7. Well, that would spoil a very nice position. Then by elimination, again, I could play f5. And once again, all the dots come. And the queen will come to h4 in one way or another. It will be over. And then you just knew you're completely winning. And there's one more detail if you like, which is that here I have to play this. But it wins. It's the only move which doesn't lose. But it also wins.