 This is good, what you're bringing up though, is we can go right at the core of the guilt, because it's like a tether that's like, you're saying, okay, my balloon's ready to take off, but there's a couple tethers here. The cords are getting ground pretty tight because they still seem to be holding me down. And what it is is the sense that in the ego belief system there's a false sense of responsibilities in the sense that the mind makes up a world of illusions and then gets wound into those duties, obligations, responsibilities. And then eternal peace seems like too big of a price to let go of those things. So in other words, what you're really calling for is you're saying, okay, I'm convinced that I have some guilt around some responsibilities and duties. And I need to be shown the impossibility of that. I need to be shown that there's no sacrifice involved in this. That me following my highest good for everyone, everything, doesn't involve loss. Because as long as I believe that there's some loss involved in doing God's will, then it won't matter what I'm doing. There's going to be some guilt and some shame that's involved in that. So there's a great post from the Bible about who is my father, mother, sister, brother. He that does the will of my father in heaven is my father, my sister, brother. The ego is involving past associations and I use this metaphor a lot. I call it the 52 card pickup where I see that the ego delt out all of the experiences, the relationships, mother, father, the very ones we're talking about. You go all the way around in all the contacts of people you've had in your life and there was guilt in all of them because of who the dealer was. That the ego wanted us to displace the guilt of thinking you separated from God and put a little bit, hide a little bit of guilt in each relationship. And then when you start to let them go, the guilt starts coming up like, wait a minute, I don't want to harm somebody, I don't want to follow my joy and then bring harm and misery to them. Still implying that following joy and following God's will could bring harm to anyone. Especially when they're telling you that you are. Yeah, especially. There we go. There goes Lisa. And that's the truth. I'm two teenagers. I'm 17 and 16. But I'll tell you something, what I did, and I told you this, I think that other gathering was, you know, I just felt this pulling. I really just felt I had no other choice. And I was really in such a state of joy. And my family saw it too. My family saw this changing me. But I was just really so full of peace and joy. And I had guilt. And I'm not, there's still little guilt there, okay? But it seems to all take care of itself. Like the one time when I was leaving and I was leaving for 11 days and telling them I'm coming back and I'm leaving for 11 days. You know, there were four days there that I was in this total bliss. What I told you, I closed my eyes and it was like light and nothing was let me have any doubt and I was staying in the joy. And I was singing and they were like, I can't believe you're doing this. They were thinking I was joining a cult. You know, I took my son, he could quit school and come with me. Then they really thought I lost him. You know, really, they took me out to dinner and they had like, they did like a psycho announcement. Yeah, they looked at me and said, now you really believe that Pauli should quit school? Yes, I do. I think that if he should come with me, I said it's meaningless and they said, how can you say that not having an education is meaningless? Hey, I didn't graduate from high school, I told them. I said, do I look like I'm doing pretty good in my life? And I said, I'm following my joy. And that's what I want to teach my family to do too. Follow your joy. Don't do something that you don't want to do. And I went back and I tried to do it and my daughter this last time and she's 17. She said, you must go. You must go. And the other trip, they were all saying, go. And it seems like everything seems to be provided for. At first it's very, very, it's shaken the whole picture. And it's changed. Yeah, it's changed. It's shaken the whole thing. And it's given up our concepts of, like that's what I learned from those days, our concepts of what a mother's supposed to be. Our concepts of what a daughter and a son and the relationship is supposed to be. And what is really important is being enjoyed and sharing joy too. As I started to travel the country, the parables would come out and it would be like I was listening to the parables, but it was a feeling like it really wasn't about me. They were just used in a helpful way. Just like Jesus, there was a man who had two sons and prodigal sons and all the different parables. Those are like little stories and illustrations that point. But really when it's like part of the joy of the moment is you really start to realize that you're not the story. That's the real freeing joy. No matter what the story seemed to be, who you are right now is not the story. And that's where you lose the guilt. Because the guilt was taking things personally. That perspective is where the guilt came in. Could you talk about an issue that I'm facing with a friend? Would you talk about suicide? Yeah, suicide is described as a decision to kill oneself and yet all life and death is defined in terms of form. So life, in terms of form definitions, begins at birth or however it's defined in those kinds of terms. Either female or nothing. Whatever. Somewhere around birth, whatever that's described as, and ends around death. And suicide seems to be like the taking of a life. So suicide in those terms would seem different than being hit by a truck or what the world would call accidents where something happens to you apart from your choice. It just happens to be your day is up. Your life is up. But actually everything is a decision by the mind. So what I like to do is take it deeper and deeper to the point that your state of mind is either a reflection of life or death in the sense that you're either joyful and peaceful or free and happy, which is your choice. That's that state of mind. Or you choose hell. It doesn't matter whether you're irritated or annoyed or tired or fearful, angry, guilty, jealous, all those in the world. So really every moment is like a life or death situation or a life or death opportunity to choose life, to choose the joy of being in the moment or to try to live in the past, which is where all those emotions come up, still trying to hang on to the linear thing. So you see how it lifts the whole definition out of a form sense of suicide to there's a part in the course where he says swear not to die, you holy son of God. He's just saying choose life. Like the billboards say, choose life except this is not talking about a fetus. This is talking about your state of mind. You have the power to choose life at any moment. So it takes the whole thing about suicide out as if life and death then are not seen in terms of form. Like I worked for hospice and they would call me into the rooms when I would walk along there and whatever they were incoherent or whatever they would get very coherent when I would walk in the room and they asked me all these meaning of life questions and I would say it's okay. You don't have to worry about your parents or your children or whatever and it's okay to go into the light and it was like a reflection of giving them a mission to go back to the present moment, to the eternal moment and then the next day I'd come in and so-and-so checked out, so-and-so. I had a high checkout rate which from the worldly terms death is not good. You want to save lives and prolong lives and not pay the terms of form but when you get into content or mind it's all just choose the present moment choose forgiveness, choose freedom. Don't choose grievances and hanging on to the past and people pleasing and all that.