 What's going on, guys? We're back with another episode of the After Hours podcast. Today we have one of our newest junior moderators, Christopher. And so thank you for coming on, man. We're glad to have you. Appreciate it. Of course, man. So I guess as usual, we kind of want to start with, you know, how did you get into trading? And then how did you find MIC? So kind of give us the whole beginning picture of your career. So I started in 2017 and I saw on YouTube, like a lot of people, the Tim Sykes videos. And at that time, I was actually in college again. So I've been in the military and I got out and went back to college and was grinding that out, you know, which is fine because I just always wanted to go back and I just saw the videos about trading and I was like, man, it's pretty cool, you know, and I was going to school for, you know, business management and finance. And it just kind of like, you know, caught my interest. And I started looking into it more and, you know, I had a little bit of money and I opened a little small account. I was like, hey, I'm going to try this. I know crap about it just like everybody else. You know, and tried it and, you know, just to learn off of YouTube and what I could find. And, you know, like everybody buying the tops, man, losing, you know, gotta be something. But I also kept it in perspective. I was like, well, I'll mind losing a little bit of money to learn. So it was just small, you know, I mean, I started like 10 shares, whatever, and just trying. And then as time went along, I researched it more. And I don't remember how I came across. And I think it was on Twitter, actually, because I started seeing, you know, traders on Twitter, you know, I saw Harry, you know, like a long time ago when, you know, you were starting to get into it. And I just started following people like everybody else. And, you know, that's how I found MIC. I researched all these people. So I'm like big into that. So I looked into a lot of these traders, try to look up stuff on them, everything I could. Yeah, you know, MIC and Alex's story and Bao, I researched it and I said, you know what, I'm gonna try this. I hadn't been in any other service. Oh, cool. This looks legit. I like the way these guys talk. So I joined, you know, I was like, I'm gonna try. So were you having any sort of success before that? Like were you making any money? Or was it kind of just like, basically breakeven or small losses? Hey, it's just small losses. I wasn't making any money, you know, because I just didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know what I was looking at. You know, and for me, I'm a slow learner. So I have to look at stuff a lot. Many times, I just have to try it. So I'm one of those types. I'm not a data person. I don't like tracking data. Like people, some of the people ask me, hey, what do you use to track this? Well, that's not me. You know, I don't do any of that shit. Yeah, me too. Me too. Yeah. And at like this point, I spent thousands of hours sitting in front of the screen now, especially in the last two years. And that has tremendously changed my trading that helped me. You know, and that's just kind of, it's almost hard for me to explain. Harry probably understands it. And you do too, James. I'm not a data person. But now I've seen it enough where I can look at stuff when I'm in a trade, you know, on a chart on level two, whatever, I can kind of see what's going on. And I do research stuff a lot too. So like I put on my watch list, you know, I've already looked at these things most of the time, read about them, looked at the filings, whatever. I mean, yeah, it doesn't matter a lot of times or small caps, especially, but just gives me a better idea for my own, you know, personal choice of what I want to take and how I want to trade it. And that's kind of how I got into it. And actually, I started out in with MIC, I started shorting, you know, that's how I got over PDT. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I started shorting and I did that for like 2020. And that got me over PDT. But damn, dude, that's pretty good. Yeah. When I got over PDT, I got to the point where I was like stagnated and flat. And I was always nervous, shorting. Like I just wasn't super comfortable. Yes, I can trade the setups and, you know, I have my risk. I've always been very good with cutting my losses, taking loss. I've never taken any huge losses because, man, that's a good one. Set your stock, you know, and it's just something that, and I have my, I always, as soon as I ever heard about max daily loss, I've got that with my brokers, you know, I'm like, I set that immediately, you know, when I found out about it, you know, just to protect myself, you know. Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny. So how long have you, when did you join MIC with in 2020 or 2019? No, I think it was beginning of 2019. Okay, cool. So it's funny though, right? Like, we always talk about how new traders could be so much more successful if they just did the basic things like max daily loss, hard stops with your set risk, all that. And you're a good example of like, you clearly just did that. And look at how quickly you kind of started to grow. Yeah. I mean, it will save your account and save you a lot of time because that one loss, you know, is going to wipe out whatever months a year, if you let it go. And mentally, if you can't handle cutting it, like I can handle it like I know when I'm wrong, I'm out. If I lose, yeah, it's what it is, you know, and that's a talent dude. So I just, I'm just like, kind of just have a couple of questions here. So you join MIC and, you know, obviously you, you had some success shorting. Yeah. And then at some point you transitioned to longing. And like when you started to get into longing, what types of stuff did you kind of look at? What types of like setups did you play? Because I know there's going to be a lot of long people listening to this who are probably struggling and saying, you know, because you have a very kind of solid niche now where it's like, it's not really the same as Austin and it's not really the same as me where you kind of have the ability, you're trading like afternoon a bit more, you're trading some of these stocks that are, like some stocks that aren't even on my radar. Yeah. So maybe if you could just kind of like talk about like your process with longing and then kind of maybe go into how you got into like what you're doing now, because like you're on fire now with like these like SPAC mergers and fucking, you know, all that shit. Well, should I never even knew about? Yeah, I just, well, with that, I have found this other guy, you know, and I don't mention too much stuff, you know, because I know it's in my seat, this other guy, this swing trader on Twitter, you know, a while back, I started following him. Is it like the Maggie guy? Yeah, exactly. You can mention him. Okay. Well, I started to call Maggie, is that who it is? Yeah. You know, I called Maggie. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I started following his swing trades and looking at his daily charts, right? Like on his long setups, and I'm like, I said, man, you know, and I know, you know, these things can be, you know, converted into day trades as well, especially these first green days or what he called these mean reversion trades. Yeah. So, you know, when you get these parabolic, low float parabolic, whatever, you know, you know, there's going to be a first green day. Yeah. So one of the things that I do, like I say, is that helped me longing is I just wait, I'll let that thing go, let everybody chase it, short it, whatever they want to do the first red day. And that thing will come down, you know, four, five, six days. And I just have it on my list. And I'm watching every day I look at it, you know, and every afternoon I'll look at it. You know, part of my process for longing, every afternoon, I scan, you know, fenders, it takes a few minutes because I have what I'm looking for, you know, I'll scan, you know, TOS, you know, just for the percent gainers, I just look, I look at the daily charts. That's how I find most of the stuff I like trading, daily chart, you know, and when I'm seeing like these parabolic, and then they come back and they start basing for a few days, you know, normally a lot of times you'll see they'll throw out another PR, you know, we're at a base, you know, and I'm just watching it. That's how I'll see them. I'm watching it. And I like the low floats. A lot of times they have lower volume, they've got a bigger spread. I understand that, you know, I count for that. I'll trade smaller size, but like I was telling somebody in the days, you know, I took the trade on, I remember the one that ran early this morning, JSPR. Yeah, yeah, I took a trade on that one. I had to go to work today, but you know, I knew this was a stack. I looked at this thing. I've seen it before. And yesterday or we had GWH, same type scenario. And I'm like, okay, you know, pre-market, I had to go to work, but I had an order in, you know, I bought it, I got it right around 10. I had another order at eight. Okay. Jesus. And I had a stop. I was like, okay, my plan was my stop, I was going to put at 796. I was willing to scale down to that eight level. Yeah. If you, you trade the same with 200 shares, you know what I mean? Yeah. It went up $10. Am I willing to lose, and I was trying to tell somebody, it's only 100 shares. If you trade 100 shares, whatever it is, but are you willing to lose $100, $200 to make five or six, you know. And yeah, on this low float run, I was like, you know, I just keep it in perspective. I don't let myself get oversized. You know, I'm watching the spread on these things. I use fantasy orders to get in. You know, you can't chase them. Jesus. And, and you just, when they work, they work great. You know what I mean? And you can see them, if they're lower volume, I went back and watched a bunch of Harry's videos on the level two. So I'd go back on TOS on demand, and I'd watch these key levels in these key spots. And you can see these people buying these things at certain areas, right? On these lower floats, it doesn't take much. Look at the volume. It'll take 10,000 shares buying this thing and move a dollar, you know, on some level. If nobody's watching them or shortroom. So some of the lower volumes, I don't, I don't advise it for, I'd say, new, the new trader to do it. But I look for them specifically, you know, and that's kind of how I plan some of these things. But I like what you're doing, dude. I like how you're like, you're like kind of like an old fashioned trader in the way that you're like scanning through like thin viz, like scan daily charts. Like, I remember when I first got the trading with like 20, like that's 2018 or whatever. Like that's what everybody did at the time. People wouldn't be like scanning and like going through and like picking the next place and like, I don't do that. But like, I love seeing that. And I think it's cool that you took like the MIC process of like risk and like how you approach that and kind of put it into your own style of trading. Like you're not oversizing, you're adhering to your risk. And like, that's really impressive for someone who hasn't really been trading that long. Well, in, in, like Harry asked me, you know, when I started switching back to long. So I try a lot of times I'll look at like the, if you want to call it the macro view of things. So 2020 was a amazing long year in my opinion. When COVID happened, right? You saw all these long traders. It was a massive year for them, you know, and I was shorting the whole time for a lot of it. And I'm like, dammit, I'm on the wrong side of the state for me, you know, and I'm going to keep looking at it. I started studying it more, you know, because I mean, really, once I got over PDT, like I said, I kind of flatlined and I was scared to move my sides up and I'm like, I don't know why, but just for me, just feel right. So I need to switch. I even went to the point where I changed my accounts back. I don't have a margin of counting more. I took it away. So I had the ability to short. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I went to that extent. I said, I'm going to just get rid of that. And so, you know, I don't want to screw around a revenge trade, try to short something when I shouldn't be. So I just got rid of that, you know, and went to that extent and just really started focusing on it, you know, and looking for certain things like, you know, with the whole, the SPAC merger thing, it was just a sector that I picked up on. I saw it last year and I knew they had a certain amount of time to merge, you know, and as you see recently, you see all these mergers coming up because they've got so many, you know, like 12 to 18 months to create this merger or a risk getting de-listed. So you see them all happening now because SPACs were only here, what, two years ago, 18 months ago? That's a new thing. That's why they're kind of doing what they're doing. And a lot of them have gotten crushed, you know, they have. If you look at all the charts, a lot of them look the same. You know, they'll run them up, they get crushed, you know, even in most of them, like a lot of these ones that I find like today, that S or that, I don't remember what, JSPR, that people don't know it, but it had a nano float because so many people redeemed their shares at like $10 a share. They had less than a million shares out there. That's why I traded the way it did. Right. And they have a certain amount of time before the pipe investors can start selling their stuff. So there's like a few week period where these things, if the initial investors or the people that held the SPAC shares, you know, redeem it at that price, at that $10 price, then that just makes that float that tiny, right? And when it's that small, it takes nothing to shoot that thing to the moon. And I just realized that I was like, man, a lot of these things were like, can just go nuts. On a particular ticker, like, let's say what would be something that you would like, like other than the first kind of green day setup, what types of like kind of intraday charts do you look for? And also on, on those type of like afternoon trades, what types of like intraday patterns are you kind of looking for? I'm just curious. So that is, I don't do well on day one hot shakes. I just, I don't know why, not, not in the, not in the morning. Like I don't, I just don't do well because they're like crowded, just hard for me to judge those things. I don't know what it is about it. They are difficult. They are, they are because there's so many people in them and, you know, manipulators, whatever, whatever. So to me, the most important thing when I'm looking at the hot shakes, I always look at them and I might trade them, but I'm looking at like what I call the stats of it, you know, what's the catalyst, what's the, what's the volume, you know, as stuff you need to look at, you know, what areas are, you know, holding that kind of thing. I don't, I really try not to trade to open and wait until 10, 10 30, you know, see where it's holding, if it's holding, right? If the volume is holding up, you know, you know, do I feel like shorts or trap is easy to borrow or that kind of thing. And I will take a trade on that. And I'm like you, I'm trying to sell, I'll sell part at VWOT, sell the rest or another part of it at high day, if it gets there, you know, and move my stop up as it goes. That's probably the best thing, zombie time for me, you know. I really, I'm really looking when, when the open happens, I'm really looking for like setups, you know, like that. But day one hot chicks are not my favorite. You know, lately I've been trading them the last couple of weeks because there hasn't been like many multi-day runners that I can watch. Yeah. I like multi-day runners a lot of times, you know, third or fourth day. I'm not going to hold them, but I will day trade them, especially if they're holding a certain level on that daily chart. You know, if I see a multi-day, if we get a big day one comes down like Prague the other day, I think it was Prague or there was one last week, me and Austin talked about in the webinar. I saw it the first day, came down and held this 360 level. I said, you know what? I said, I told him, I said, I think this thing, it's got more in it. And it spiked on Wednesday, it held the level Thursday and Friday, you know, from 360, it went all the way to five. Yeah. Those kind of things I look for. It's cool that you know, because I feel like long traders, everyone thinks they have to trade the open. I feel like all longs get so excited for that rush of volume at the open and that's where you see a lot of amateur longs take losses where Harry obviously is seasoned and knows to wait for his spots and all that. But how did you get so disciplined? I think it's pretty rare for new traders to be as disciplined as you are when it comes to like everything we're talking about like knowing your setup, like waiting for your specific times, like how did you get to that point and like what made you like this, I guess? Well, I mean, I'm like everybody else. I've gotten in fights with stocks over the years and lost. I told somebody earlier and I was like, hey man, trust me, we've all been through it. I just know like in the past, you know, I've gotten in something and I've gotten too biased or you know, and I'll fight the damn thing all day and lose. You know, I might not take a big loss, but a bunch of little paper cuts all through the day. And I know I'm doing it. You know, it's just the fact that I have to stop myself. So I've had enough years and you take enough losses where finally you're just like, you know what, man, I gotta get hold of myself, you know? And I'm like, I know I can do this. I mean, God dang it. You know, the military has definitely taught me discipline. You know, I mean, I'm freaking 37 years old at this time. I went back to college. I did that on my own every night, sat here until, you know, 11 o'clock at night, worked a full-time job with three kids and, you know, get all that. That's just like for me training, I'm like, I'm going to get this. I love doing it. And I'm going to be successful no matter how long it takes. And I don't care if I make $20 a day until I learn how to do it. You know what I mean? I'm just going to keep hacking away. I'm just one of those people. I don't quit, man. You can freaking beat me and you're gonna have to kill me. That's the one I'm going to quit. Every new trader needs to listen to this twice. Seriously. I think this is one of like the best like, like episodes for newer guys, like, especially trying to get into longing. Like, Harry, how many questions do you get that it's like, if a new trader could just follow this? Like, I mean, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Well, I know. And a lot of, I, and like, I like how you just kind of said yourself, like, I am someone who trades the open, but I'm very selective about it. And it's really come after like, I guess, like a number of years of like, me just refining and refining and refining. And like, I respect that you just said like, okay, this isn't really working for me. And it doesn't work for some people and everyone's different, right? And I respect that you're just like, you know what? This isn't really working that well for me. And a lot of the opens like the past six months have been really heavy anyway. So, you know, you just said yourself, it's not working for me. You know, you found something that kind of worked. You found like a little kind of like niche for yourself. And, you know, it's been interesting for me to watch where you've like said some random stock and I'm like, shit, I have never even heard of that. And then in the afternoon, I'm like, shit, that bastard said it was going to rip and it ripped, you know? Hey, do you guys, can you give me one second so I can take my dogs out and let my wife out? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good. Oh, that's Harry a question. Yeah, we can talk. Harry, how long did it take you before went to, to know because like something I admire about you actually I like is like, you kind of know like early on you're like, oh, I'm not going to be trading until zombie times. Like, I'm going to come back at zombie times or I'm going to, I'm like, how long did it take you to kind of know that about yourself and like, figure that shit out? I think it's that if you have a pre market. Well, I just do it based on like day to day market. So like, yesterday, we had a ton of things running. And everyone all I knew that like longs today, we're going to have major long FOMO. So I knew that we might get that one runner. But if things start to stuff, it can turn really bad for longs. You know, also all great about the setups, right? If we have a ton of broken charts that are just disgusting, I probably don't want to long those at the open, you know, yeah, you know, if we've had a main main runner in pre market, I know that every single long who missed that is going to want to probably jump in right away. Like a lot of people don't have really good self control. So like, they see something pop a little bit and they're like, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye. And then they end up getting fucked and stuffed on later. So it's really just been about like, which side do I think is FOMO? And then I judge it by the kind of setups. And then sometimes I just say, okay, we have had one runner overextended hot chick that, you know, maybe you could get a trade on, but probably not. Like, it's probably not going to, you know, do what you want. So I'll probably write that overextended stock off the other broken ones I'll write off too. And I'll just be like, you know what, I can wait till zombie. I can wait until I'm kind of, I guess, I can wait till I can, you know, put myself in a situation where I should be trading. And that's one thing that I've been working on the most is just knowing when to trade, being extremely selective. Bow and I, the past like four days have been just like bitching about range and saying like, when the top is set, you shouldn't be looking to go long. You should just write it off and look for a new chart or a new setup or not touch it. And that's something that, you know, Bow and I have definitely been preaching daily. Interesting. So I have a question for both of you guys actually. So I get a lot of DMs. I don't know why long traders DM me all the time, but I always just send them to you. I send them to you. But most of the people I get, they get into this habit. And I've mentioned this in the past, I think being a long trader is very hard because I think there's a lot of emotions involved too. I think it's harder than short selling in my opinion. But why, why is it that new traders are like stuck longing broken charts? And like, how do you guys, what's some advice that you guys have for long bias guys to kind of break that habit of like longing or wrong stocks? I mean, for me, I try to go in with a plan on something we're going to trade. Like if I'm looking at it, you know, if it's the hot chick, I'm researching it, looking at it, you know, kind of figuring out what I want to do. But if it's something that I'm already in or trading that day, I've already got, you know, I've already got my plan and what I'm going to do. If it doesn't work, it stops me on. I'm okay with that, you know, because like, you know, I always tell myself the only thing you can control is how much you're going to lose. So for me mentally, that's okay. You know, and you know, if you for as long, I think one of the biggest things that I've learned is for, for my trading is the entry is key and having your targeted exits, like you got to take some profit, you know, like if you check in and I get that question a lot, like, well, you know, you hang on to it a lot longer. I don't scalp it. Well, yes, I do because I have a size that I'm comfortable with and I'm okay with holding it a little bit longer, but I do take profit on the way out, you know, that has helped me tremendously, but picking the right stock is because I'm not just jumping in it. Like, I've looked at it before, you know, and if it is the hot chick, it's pretty easy through the process to look it up and come up with a pretty good plan, you know, and if you're trading a hot chick to me, it's a technical plan, right? I mean, you know, I'm gonna get deep into it. So used to chart and used to lines. I mean, that's just it. I mean, that's what's going to keep you safe and, you know, potentially a good trade for me. Yeah, but yeah, with me with the broken stock thing, the thing is, is that, and this is the thing that I've noticed quite a bit, is that every single newer short trader or even intermediate short traders are looking to nail the hot chick for whatever reason. Everyone's trying to get that top tick, right? You can post it on Twitter later, can boost the ego later. You have a bunch of people just writing the fire emoji in the chat. Everyone's getting like almost like a negative reinforcement from that. And so, you know, that puts it, you know, in a situation where a lot of short traders like put themselves at risk to get trapped. Now, if you look at long traders, it's the reverse opposite where if you nail the bottom on a broken stock, or you get in on a broken stock, we always see those broken stocks that once in a while will teleport. It's maybe like one in 100, but we always see them once in a while. And that's probably in the back of every single long trader's mind who's looking to long those, right? And so it's kind of the reverse short traders are looking to get the hot chick. Long traders are looking for that broken stock, hoping it can get that like second or third push higher. And that's where I think that happens. And it should just be completely reversed. Short traders who are looking to make money should be taking advantage of that pop, where everyone has already been bagged from pre-market, bagged from the open, looking to sell into that kind of VWAP or resistance push, right? Short traders should be taking advantage of that. And long traders on certain hot chicks, not every single hot chick, I'm not a big proponent of longing something that has gone from $4 to $12 and is now currently sitting way the fuck over VWAP. I'm not a big proponent of that. I'm not a big advocate of that. I think in that type of situation, it's good to just sit out on a hot chick like that. But if you have something that's kind of around VWAP at the open, we dip down and then, you know, we get that kind of rip higher over higher day, that's a type of hot chick that you want to be involved in. That's not something that you want to be short on, right? And I don't think you want to be short on the other one if you're short either. You should just wait till longs are bagged and then just take advantage of that excess supply when it's flooded and it goes lower. And that's what you should kind of be looking at. And I just think that long traders want to be the hero. Short traders want to be the hero. And when you long a broken stock and it goes up as a long trader, you're a hero. And if you short a hot chick and you make money, you're a hero as a short trader. So it's all about being the hero. It's not about making money. And it's all just about getting your ego stroke, whether it's in the main chat or whether it's on Twitter or whatever. People love that more than making money. And if you can say, I love making money more than that, you definitely have a shot at trading. And like that. And something too for, you know, on that is, you know, a broken stock to me might be a different definition for somebody else, because when I have a plan on one, I'm usually basing it off of the daily chart. So I've been looking at it for days. You know what I mean? Intraday, yes, I see a lot of times their stocks are broken and there's, you know, levels that you don't want to be on or a death line. But, you know, if something has been holding for three or four days and I'm watching it, to me, it's not broken yet. So I'm looking for another move. And that's something I have to explain, you know, sometimes because I don't always base my trade off of that intraday chart, you know, because sometimes that will swing these things. You know, if I see it holding a level, I will swing some, you know, for a few days, you know, and there's that quality Maggie setup that I'm looking for, you know, and I use that a good bit and it works very well, you know, like that. It has to be just right for me to do it. You know, I think I just want to add one more thing on a situation like that, where I know the type of chart that you're picturing and it's the one that's broken in the morning and then rips up in the afternoon, right? Yeah, that type of situation where we'll either get that afternoon kind of rip after like two, three o'clock, where we get that big afternoon rip and everyone who's stuck short at the lower levels is forced to cover and we go over high a day, which is a situation that can happen on a lot of broken stocks. And I think that that should be pointed out as well, because once in a while, and it's usually a stock that you're tracking, we do get those broken stock moves in the afternoon or in after hours, right? When they're moving the stock and it's a liquid and now everyone who's short as fucked. But again, it's going to be time-based trading, right? Like you're not looking to go long a broken stock at 10 or 30 a.m., right? And so I know the exact charts that you're talking about. And that's just why I wanted to point that out, because they're gonna be like, Chris Lee said, bro. Yeah, no, no, don't get that. Yeah. And that's what I say. I use a lot of larger timeframe levels for me, you know, and what I'm looking at. So here he's exactly right. Do not long a broken interday chart. Oh, the DMs I'm going to get from this. You know, when it's dead during the day, you know what I mean? You can look at it. The volume goes away. It's just not going to do it. You know what I mean? The moral of the story is know your setup. You know exactly what you're looking for. I know what I'm looking for on the DM chart. And it's hard and just like here, you know, no one trades exactly the same. And that's what I try to tell everybody. It took me a long time to figure that out. I've tried all these setups and they work and I have no doubt. But for me and my personality, I've just adapted a lot of different things that I've learned from all of you guys and the rules and just kind of made my own thing and it works. So that's just what I did. And I can explain it as much as I want to a member, but until they figure out what they're comfortable with and what they do and what works. I like that. I mean, so we are coming up kind of on our like our time limit, but I guess the last question I wanted to ask because I think you're someone good for this is what piece of advice would you give to any new trader kind of struggling to find their knee shirt, like how they trade? Or what kind of advice would you give them on going forward? Well, I've tried it all. Every different little thing, you know, with small size. I mean, I just in practice, I still practice every day, you know, like today, you know, I had some trades that I traded and a lot of times what has helped me and you know, if I see a setup that I want to learn and I use like five shares and I'll just use five shares until I figure it out, you know, or to see if it works or if I'm okay with it. Yeah. And that's probably been the biggest thing for me to help control my emotions because everybody, everybody has them. That's your biggest enemy is your own emotions, you know. The trade is there and you can take it, but you just have to control yourself, you know, and implement the rules. That's the hardest part, like everybody says. And, you know, from newer traders, I would just like to say try it all. I mean, if you're a data person, use the data. I mean, if you're not spending a lot of screen time, try stuff out like I've been, you know, it takes longer. I mean, it's taken me a long time, I mean, but you just got to be willing to put in the time and the practice, you know. I agree. Perfect. You know, you get, over time, you'll see it. You'll finally start seeing it. And it just kind of clicks with you, you know, will work for you. Perfect. I like that, man. I think that's a good note to end on, honestly. That was really good. So, Chris, I mean, thank you for coming on. We had a lot of requests to get you on here. So, we'll definitely have to get you back in the future and monitor your progress and see where you're at. Well, I appreciate it. And, you know, thanks to M-I-C for everything you guys do. And, you know, anybody in there, like I say, in the best place in the world to learn because you're not going to find any other community like this. I promise you that. Amen, brother. Thank you again. Love it. Thanks, guys. It's great.