 Wel cwm back this is part two of our exclusive interview with Wayne Rooney and we are just about to enter into your return to Everton in 2017, so how did that come about? I think I spoke to Kerman, spoke with United first of all and so when it was the end of that season I was going to be leaving and I had different options and offers and it was like huge money over in China each year and then I spoke to Owen MacKerman and then had a good conversation with him and then from there really it happened quick where I got everything done and I was signed and I took on a member day and put in the Jags, I was signing, officially signing the next day but I had everything done the night before and remember I spoke to Jags and he put the other me into the lad's Wattap group and on my Wattap he comes up with Jimmy, everyone was like who calls me Jimmy, he comes up with Jimmy so I put a message in, I can't remember just saying, ties with everyone and whatever, remember shamus called me and thought it was Jimmy called me and I said, mess one and more, some shamus is having a call with me, so the next day I've got in and I'm getting food next to shamus so I said to him, I'm going to say the hash, just sign you're having a call with me already, he was devastated, he was like was that really, he thought it was shamus calling me but then I was buzzing to be back in and I couldn't wait to get going really and started. There was a lot of buzz about that, obviously you come on back and loads of people are finished farm and you're welcome with and you're signing the camera and all that like in, because Evan had just finished the season quite strongly really, finished in 7th I think he'd won 9 out of 10 on games on the run and all that I think obviously the feeling would have been because I kept the carcune and you just thought for me, I think that would have been perfect, we just needed something but we were looking for another striker as well but were you surprised at just in that sum of the recruitment of like, because obviously it was a bit muddled to say the least and we got clashing in for my acts, we got you in who obviously you can play number 10 or as a striker or whatever and they're playing in my field as well we had Flassage coming and Sigarton and it was almost like, yeah it was a bit, because without breaking confidence what had been kind of salty to you was what your role was going to be in the side so he said he had a 9 out of 10, which I didn't mind either obviously, either role and I assume probably as a 9 because we're Sigarton and clashing coming in, obviously didn't wear half a clashing, didn't get that much game time and nice lad and to be fair worth so hard trying to get in the team, great attitude so it didn't work out for him and then obviously I started as the 9 scored a few goals and then as it went on I ended up obviously back in the field but yeah it was a bit strange to the sarnons at the time, it was all strange did you come in obviously, you scored in Kenya, belter of a goal, on the friendly and then we kicked the season off and you got the winner again Stokewitz, it was a great feeling to be a supporter back in your, the back end you scored the other at the back end and everyone's singing in it, it was a good feeling I was buzzing I couldn't have, you know you couldn't have wished for the better return and to win the game 1-0 and scored and I think we were first half actually and we weren't great and second half we were better and got comfortable and the big thing I remember from that game is the last 10 minutes and where you were talking about before and what I was saying before about having an arrogance and confidence I remember thinking these players, they were going to throw it away and then I remember trying to calm the game down and see the game out and slow it down really for us obviously slow trying to get a goal and trying to influence my teammates and talk and calm down and we done it really well actually because we weren't and then the last 5 minutes and I was speaking to them and we seen the game out really well so I remember I remember trying to bring that mentality and that game management in... How weird was that for you coming? Cos obviously you'd just been a hugely successful football club that won everything, didn't you? Literally everything, you could win. And then coming back into our club which obviously hadn't been successful in your playing at that level. It was difficult for you to... Was it those moments where you were like, what's going on? Cos you probably haven't had to worry about that at the time. It was different moments where obviously when you're playing at the top level, there's moments where you can actually focus on your own game. Where obviously when you come down when you come back and you've got a couple of players who you need to help in, which is fine, it's normal. And that's why you see clubs sign on some players because they can bring that influence and that mentality and character back into the squad. So we actually started the season alright and then the first couple of games, Stolk and City and then... Great result at City. The fixtures to be fair around this. We had some bad, it was a tough start. After that obviously Cumin lost his job and then it was Undy and then Big Sam. So it was a bit of a strange season and it actually felt if he kept me a full, I wouldn't play in my field. I wouldn't be close to 20 goals. I felt if he kept me a full. But then obviously going back in my field and then trying to influence the game from there was a bit more difficult obviously to get goals. I think we did, you know, City. They scored a light on me. We scored a City thing. It was just 200 Premier League. All that one was a good goal there. And we did it. We had Chelsea where I spent at home and things like that. We wear it in the buffers where me in the last minute pen of Brighton, which was a... And then we nearly win it. Ym Meralas, I don't know why we missed the chance to win it. But Arsenal at home a week later and he scored another brilliant goal to put us one in the open. In the ground when that went in. I think we can beat this. Everyone was bouncing and then we collapsed and we ended up red carded. We lose the game five too. It was an indication because there was obviously room as that Cumin was under pressure. What do you think went wrong for him in that period? Like what you saw? I think that obviously the fixtures went great and then the results went great. You could see the pressure coming and you could feel it. I just think we didn't have a settle. We wanted to play three at the back and we didn't have the personnel to do that. He's obviously not the most vocal as well. No, he wasn't either. He's a culture. So you could feel it coming and then obviously you wanted to talk over him. Were you frustrated in the dressing room with what you'd seen? Because obviously you'd come back in in the team and just qualify for Yoruf and looked like... These looked actually like not a bad start. I remember in Yoruf you played at Atlanta away and I've erupted after the game. Did you? I snapped. I went to Jags because I was the captain. The next day or a couple of days after. It's Jags because we need to have a meeting here with the players. Obviously I went to Jags as captain but then I've held a meeting. Time to get to the bottom of how we are and playing the way we're playing. We're giving up and Yoruf wanted to address it because you can't have that in any team. But did you get out of it? Did anything come out of it? Yeah, I think you could see it and Seamus was brilliant. Seamus was always... He'd come to me as well a lot but he's always a vocal one. I got on really well with Seamus. That's two Seamus having a mentality. A strong mentality where he's thinking the same way I'm thinking. We were gradually trying to get there. We had new players and foreign players and it's more difficult of course. With the foreign lad as well. We were just trying to drive that mentality throughout the squad. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. The results were great. That led to Big Sam coming in. It obviously wasn't everyone's cup of tea. Within that there's obviously the West Ham game. We have to speak about it because it was the first and only attic for everything. But it wasn't a bad one. It was a big game. That was a key game. That was Undy's last game. Big Sam was coming after that. Undy left me out for Benny bringing me. That's to say that. I wasn't happy again. He obviously had job royals. He was helping them at the time as well. I could see it coming because he's obviously wanting to promote the younger players. Who he's been working with as well. Benny actually played really well at Chelsea away. He played really well. I think in the last game against West Ham Undy was going on here. I think because it was his last game. He thought he'll play me and then I scored the attic. I was positive. It was my first goal back at the Gladys Threath as well. To score it and obviously the third goal to score it the way it did. To get my first attic for everything. It was a way of coming back. It was only for one season just to do that. I mean that goal. An impressive that I don't like referees. I think they're terrible when they get away. Michael Oliver's not good but he did do well to get out the way. He done well to get out the way. Obviously West Ham not put his hand up as well. I know I sit on the half way line so I've seen it in our half. He doesn't score many goals like that. You've done that before against West Ham but this one is better for me. It's caught a bit of effect. It's one of them because if I go higher with it I think I can go out and make it back to save it. Did that happen? Do you make the decision quicker? When you're playing it's hard to process that decision quickly. I knew I had to drive it. I've just caught a bit of effect. I must feel good. I mean you're at it in your goal. As soon as I hit it I knew it was in it. I've seen Undy going mad as well on the side celebrating. I remember just feeling the score I took for everything. It was incredible really. It was a big game as well. It was a huge game because we did after. We did after staying on the side with many games and we had to get it going back to the way in that game. It was a big win for us. We won on the side as well. Some other guys then coming in. That was again different. Obviously other guys coming in. People just don't like him. Everthroneans don't marry like him. How did you find him? He was alright. I think at the time... Did he dad like him? I won't put you on the spot. I think at the time... He's probably what we needed. I think as well he done okay. He's done a good job. He finished 8th from where he was. People talk about the style of... At the time... When he came in... The main thing was just to stay in the league. So then they go and finish 8th. I think obviously he came in. And then Sammy Lee came in as well. Sammy's a great fella. Like Sammy. Whether that was the right decision or not. Obviously there's connections with Liverpool. We played Liverpool away the day before. Sammy's... Let's get into these. I'm thinking Sammy Clefawr. Whatever, but... It's... I thought Sammy was okay. It's obviously not the best style. But he plays to percentages. We finished the season strong with him. We've got to talk about the Liverpool King. It was obviously the first goal for Evan in a rabie. It was again another crucial one. We went there. We went there. I guess you do have to give all of that credit because they were smashing it. I think they just won 7-0 in Europe the Wednesday before. We're going and not playing great. This could be a little bit uncomfortable. We stayed in the game. And then we get the penalty which was unheard of. I think it was something like a third penalty in 80 years or something. And you stand in 10 minutes left and you're at the end of the road. It was that enormous moment. It was snow as well. Snow on, yeah. And then I remember thinking, just don't sleep. Don't sleep. A mini lay was in goal. He saved two of my penalties before. I did, yeah. Getting it at that. I went down the middle. I never go down the middle. I knew where I was going to play before. I always practised to play before. I knew where I was going down the middle. I got one then. I remember just thinking where I was going down the middle. And he stands there. But obviously he's dived. He'll study me as well. He's never seen me go down the middle. I caught it nice, yeah. That was a great feeling. That was tremendous. To get the point was brilliant. We got to Newcastle and scored a winner up there as well. Another place I ate. Slyder in and we got a big win. I think you were on 10 goals at Christmas. I totally agree with you. I know you're one of those players that you wanted to be involved in the game. You dropped back and get involved. But we didn't have a sense of forward. We didn't give. I know Dom was coming through. I think what Sam was... When Sam was coming in and he spoke about me playing in the field. He actually wanted a bit more control in the field. That's why he's moving me back there. And then Dom was doing a little bit better. He was doing a bit better. And the way Sam plays, if you are going more direct, it's better having Dom now for a day. So that was David's reasons why really. I demanded a man playing in the field and trying to actually get us playing a little bit. But I do think that if I stayed up top I wouldn't be in the round 20 goals I feel. Why wouldn't you? That's 10 by Christmas. So there was no reason to think that wouldn't have carried on in the second half of the season. Obviously he brought in Sheng Towsham and people like that. I still think you'd have got more goals than him up there if I'm being kind to the likes of him. But it was frustrating. But obviously we got the result. He got the result. He's still very bitter that he was let go at the end of the season. But as we went into that second half of the season and we did, I think this was the big problem. We were secure. We weren't stuck in the snow. Another one in the snow. We won there. That really meant we weren't going anywhere and we were safe basically. That was in February. I think a lot of people's gripe was he never tried to play anymore like attacking football even though we were safe. I think Sam he gets judged before he goes in. He actually does pull a lot of good working lines to refer to him. He does. I think you know what it is. He gets judged before he goes in anywhere. The Evantham fans from the start you can see when having him. But I do think for that period of time he done a good job for Evan. Obviously he's got with him and changed him. For him I'm sure he feels a bit let down by the club as well because he would have when he came in he said we want you to finish in the top half. He's achieved what he's asked for really. I think the pressure from the fans is really changed a lot. He brought a director of football. For you obviously like you said you end the season with as our top scorer which you made a Christmas going Europe as well which was really disappointing because we should have got out of that league really. But when did you know that the club are letting you go again? Because that was a mad lot seeing the mad one. We played Swansea away and then there was something in one of the papers on the week before about Evan who let me go in and seeing it and seeing what you know and then we played Swansea away and again after that game there was stuff in the papers and so I went straight into Sam and I said what's this what's all this and I said I'm not a kid anymore if this is the case let me know no problem but don't be like oh put it out there he said I have no idea it's not me I haven't put it anything out here I remember I met Michelle in the car park in one of the game he didn't give me an answer really so company agent then DC United called me agent stay obviously on Swansea so Steve Walsher told them at the game so they said oh yes Steve was at the game so then I remember all I was asking before was a bit of honesty and fine I'm not going to do anything to harm the club if that's what they want then no problem were you disappointed I was gutted I was gutted and that's what the club were wanting so then really my plans I didn't really want to play for any other club and eventually they went to Derby but that was more to start off on the coaching so that's why I went out to America so right I'll go out and try a different me Ed was on coaching as well so I'll get a different experience and different culture that helped me moving forward eventually becoming a manager then it changed and happened quick but yeah I was gutted at the time obviously very shocked especially a team that didn't have loads of goals and I thought that was just getting rid of all the top goals because we had lost Ron in the year before so I don't know financially or what I don't know but they made that decision because it wasn't the manager's decision because the manager went there Sam hadn't made that decision this was obviously long before he spoke to it was a current silver silver and bronze it was strange absolutely strange when you finished with the 117 games for Evan on 27 goals oh bad top scoring top scoring you're fine and obviously your lads have got to see you know what's going on there's still special moments from that year obviously my kid watching me play for Evan the heart rate the goal around the field there's still moments and it's a play for Evan at any time he would join us so I'll never forget going back there and who knows what the future brings like I said it's been an amazing story obviously being a blue nose everything you've done got to play twice from a selfish point of view which you'd have come back a little bit earlier obviously serch ymchwil to come back and to do that finish with the hat serch yn y golyr am ffild you got to that yw y rindgyf for the last game of the season even though no-one was happy with that it was about 6,000 in the stadium with the walk and on but even there it's having me kids on the pitch and stuff like that special moment you go back to the start of the interview when you spoke about me being mascot that's something I'll never forget being mascot and being on the pitch even though I'm feel both being on the pitch with the players and obviously my kids have met different players and whatever but still for them it's a massive thing for them to be on the pitch so the memories which obviously we got when we went back there absolutely fantastic thank you very much there you go what do you think in the comments the best English player ever in my opinion and some fantastic moments so give us your best Wayne Rooney ever in the comments