 Vice-Presidential Candidate of the People's Democratic Party PDP Ifain Ocala has said the party is working seriously to reconcile with the five aggrieved PDP Governors known as G5. Ocala stated this in a meeting with some other South-South PDP Governors, including Udom Emmanuel of Aqaibom, Gaurina Basaki of Edo, Dwayediri of Bayelsa, and this was at the Government House in Yenugwa in Bayelsa State Capital. Meanwhile, the Spurx person of the Atikwa Kaua Presidential Campaign Council, Daniel Boila, has said that River State Governor Yesung Wike's non-support of the People's Democratic Party in the 2023 presidential elections would not affect the party's chances at the polls. Also on the party's governorship race in Lagos, there are internal wranglings as members are demanding for the expulsion of the former Deputy National Chairman of Southwest of the party, Chief Olabadi George, from the fold, accusing him of consistently working against the emergence of the PDP Governor in Lagos State. Now, Bodé George, in an interview with the emergence of Abdul Aziz Adedimar as governorship candidate in Lagos, he said he was influenced by the national body of the party. Well, joining us to discuss this and break things down is a member of the Presidential Campaign Council of the People's Democratic Party, John Shribu. Thank you so much, Mr. Shribu, for joining us. Thank you once again, Mary-Anne, for being here. Great. I want to start with an interview that was recently granted by Chief Olabadi George on a radio station here in Lagos. And he did allude to the fact that the emergence of Jandor in the PDP in Lagos was the beginning of the problems in the party. I'd like for us to take a clip, which is courtesy of Nigeria Info, and that interview. Just take a listen to what Chief Olabadi George will start on that. The managers in Abuja, not now got involved and they thought they could know your house more than you. They messed up the whole executive members of the managing members of our party. And once you do that, you open the doors for a lot of mess. We warned them, we advised them, you know, that's all you could do. Now we are now in the throes of trying to readjust. And I believe we can still do that. But, you know, it was free-wheeling for people to vote. And, you know, because of the mess created by the national, and is on delay in Lagos, that's the mismanagement of those who are these actors at the national. APC too has the same problem. You know, remember, you know, it's the leadership that must get involved. When you say, oh, I'm not part of it. Of course, before you say, they would have ruined everything you have done. So that's a clip of Chief Olabadi George explaining how the antecedents of the problem of Lagos PDP started. Now, I also remember, because I listened to that interview, when he was asked if Jando was allowed to participate in a Tikus campaign, he said, well, nobody was stopping him. But he did allude to the fact that he was brought by the party's leadership from the national to the state without the consent of those who were already on the ground. I really like for you to comment on that. Well, thank you again, Maria. It's surprising that Chief Olabadi George said so. Why did I say so? You remember, when Jando was coming in January or so, we had governments that came in to Lagos to welcome him into the party. So in the leadership of the party, we have welcomed Jando into the party in a grand style with mammoth crowd that gathered that day. What else are we going to talk about? Why would we say nobody knows who the national, who she marking the week you have been in Lagos without the state structure being aware of him? So, you see, I just see this as crying over us because, more one, his candidates didn't get a ticket. I'm also, if you look at it, I see it as surprising. I'm so sorry to interject, but just to be clear, who exactly was his candidate? Vivo. Jiv, yeah. Well, he's a governorship candidate for Labour Party. Why are we talking about that now? Oh, you see, that is a challenge we have here. This is one time that Lagos will have a fresh breath. This is one time that PDP have a chance to take over Lagos. And that is why it's so surprising that Jibababadi George went through this route. It's no longer a secret. JBR was on Arise TV where he said, when he was asked a very public question, he said, well, Jibababadi is aware of this, living for Labour Party. And that tells you a lot about what is going on. He was surprised at the reception Jandong had. His legwork, he came into the party, most of the words and secretariat in the Lukugome, Jandong revived them. He brought in a verb into the party in Lagos, before the primaries, in such a way that it has never happened like that in PDP in Lagos. So for him to come into a party, for me, I see that as a plus. Jandong is a grassroot man and for Jib to go this rise of him to rally around him as a young man who sought to support all the while to come around whatever it is, whatever act he has to grind with him or with the party and say, look, for once, before, at my age, I should be able to get Lagos for PDP. Because he's been there since 1999, till today, 20-something years. APC or whatever party have been defeating us in that play. Tilibu has been defeating him. And so what has he brought to the table for us? And this is the time that Lagos will get a rise. And she is trying to, you know, rock the table, rock the boat as it were. I can't leave a table shaker at the team. So for me, for him to go that route and say, look, the national brought him, we are not aware of him. They went to a contest, for everyone's sake. And we have people asked for that stepped down for Jandong. Gume stepped down for him. He won the primaries and he went around and to reconcile and all of them decided to give support to him. And that tells you a lot of the character of Jandong, Dr. Dino. And to tell you that he's acceptable, he has been able to warm his way into the heart of people and to see what he's bringing into the party to say, look, we have a 35% that is bringing him from where he was coming from into the party. And with that, imagine if a chibola body geode could just bury the hatchet, forget what is going on and say, look, Jandong is somebody that has seen that's creating the waves. Let me put my support, whatever we have, let us win and we sell that self. At this point, you need to mentor them. You need to mentor the Jandong. But not throwing, you know, not going this route and saying, look, we don't know him. I find it so funny. Also, he was posed a question about who he will vote for, for presidency. And he said he wasn't sure yet. Does that raise a concern? Being that he's a chieftain of your party and, you know, statements such as this, like you said, could obviously rock the boat. But when you also make an allegation like what you have made saying that, oh, you know, Viva Vols was his candidate and because he didn't get the ticket, that's why he's doing this. Why would a party chieftain of that caliber want to destroy his party, especially for a PDP who's been struggling for years, to want to take over power in Lagos? Because he always wants to have his way. That's a plain truth. He always wants to have his way. In 1999, he decided what goes on in PDP in Lagos. So probably at this time, maybe in the wisdom of leadership, he felt, okay, what do we do? Can we try another route? Can we just put our act together, you know? And everything was cleanly, you know, played at the primaries. So leadership did not come to Lagos to impose Jandon on anyone. Jandon did his homework. He did it perfectly. He got the reception. He got the votes. And he won. I expected a chivalra for the man of his caliber and elder to say, look, what do we do? I need to support these young men. Let's put our act together. Let me be the rallying point. But not to be the one that will be trained tantrum, I beg my due respect. We should be trained tantrums about what is happening that look leadership. Like, he said he doesn't know who to vote for. You know, at his age, Governor Wike will have to determine who he votes for. Then it's hard. It's very sad. At this age, I expect him. I expect that the issue Why Governor Wike? I mean, why is Governor Wike Why is Governor Wike He's the leader of their integrity in quotes. I don't know where the integrity is coming from because if you look at the trajectory of what is happening, concerning everyone involved in this, you'll find out that we cannot even say that there's anything called integrity in what group they're calling themselves. So you're saying that you're telling me that what the G5 governors are fighting for, what the Southern Caucus is fighting for, has no integrity. You're telling me that the fact that the South has gotten the shot on the stick from your party is something that should be waived. Then why is the deputy or the running mate of your presidential candidate trying to see how he can resolve or reconcile the G5 if that's important from what you've said? In your family, you have issues, right? And according to them, they also said that, you know, they're open for reconciliation. It's a family affair and when there's an altercation or there's an agreement, you know, everybody tends to like play whatever game they need to play or how to see that they get their own ideas sold so that everybody will carry it along. But for me, this is one chance that PDP has to win election. And for this, for the governors to say that they need to hire the chairman to leave before they can support the candidate. For me, it's secondary. It's secondary to the whole game that is on right now. So if we are to, if we are to say if they come together, we win. Because they keep saying position, position, position. That number one has gone to naught. We have the chairman with the sixth in the trajectory of leadership. For heaven's sake, it has happened before in which we had a change of government, a change of leadership within the party and it's going to happen waiting after they say they can't wait. Now, I have this position I think I've said it here before. Why are we fighting for a position that we're not going to want? Are we not going to win first then to fight it out? And I believe Elijah Teo Kubaoka, a democrat and our party as well as structured organic party would never allow the chair, Senator Ayubu, the president, sitting chairman to stay beyond the time for him to leave. Because we will go for him, you know, based on our constitution. Everything there is waiting because Governor Wiki Autumn and the Kourimadu report that second thing in Saturday in which made the conduce to leave. Now, if they are saying they should resign Ayubu should resign for them to have a discussion, that means the deputy national chairman will have to take place. We have to take the place of the chairman of acting chairman. So what are we talking about? Is it personal vendetta with Ayubu? I don't think so. But you may mention of the fact that PDP has to win. Now, if you must win, of course, you're going to make sure that your house is in order. You're going to make sure that you do whatever it means. It takes to, you know, at least pacify all those who seem to be angry or calm-fraid nerves. But as it looks, as it seems, in fact, from what you said, it's more like, oh, let's wave these guys. They're just a bunch of noisemakers. Let's move on to winning because that's our priority. As opposed to really trying to see if there can be a common ground of sorts. No, we are not waving them aside. Like I said, the family, right? They have a window open for the constitution. We also are making there for that is why we saw on news yesterday Governor Okoa and the other southern PDP governors met yesterday that we need to meet preparing the ground for reconciliation. Yes, we want it, but we have to move on. We have to move on because you see, we are in a situation in which the same if we have a hindsight or think of history. Remember, because of him, Secondus was removed. Chief Secondus was removed. The party pundered to him. He was removed. I also expected that at this point in time he should be able to sacrifice a look. The party, last time I assisted, I pulled out my weight and we removed the sitting chairman. We had a convention when we were not supposed to hold it and now there is also time to sacrifice for the party and say, let's move on and get this ticket and get the presidency get. And then he straightened me and gave me his route for me. I see it's a challenge for me to actually, you know, think it out that at a point just joining and play a role they are going as well. Let me say this. If at this point with all the damages by virtue of the speeches you have made and they have said a different forum you imagine how do you trust such a person if they don't, you know kind of temper down what they are doing so that the reconciliation can be total. Because if the war is a reconciliation it should Governor Wickel who is the chief the chief of the fight you know, the leader should also be able to you know, manage his speeches and not destroy the party by what he says you know, or his action and I think to also as an elder we can come here as a young man, this is our time I want to sit before my time you see and also, so for me it is a win-win situation if the G5 can actually sacrifice because if you look at it it not candidly not saying anything why? Trying to make sure that their people will you know make, you know, inroads into Governor Wickel's camp and he had a grant for him to reach out that is why he has not made any negative comment concerning them and that for me is a credit for a democrat and as a leader that's what a leader should do that's presidential for me as we speak right now the G5 governors as I said earlier they are campaigning they've been moving from state to state especially for the states that the G5 governors are representing or the governors campaign flag-offs as we speak right now I think we have a video of Governor Wickel and the G5 governors in our bare state Governor Autumn was asked if these men will defect from the party being that it seems like there's no end in sight as to what's happening in Broglie between the G5 governors and of course the leadership of the party and he said that they were not going to resign what do you think that these men will be casting their votes for come 2023 well you know what I believe something will be done they will vote for PDP as far as I'm concerned I feel they are calling for attention attention so that they be the beautiful bride right 24 hours is too much in politics everything will work out I don't want to say that it will be to their detriment if we don't work together because for instance Governor Wickel doesn't have any stake aside from his governorship candidates if he says look we're not going to work and not only going for Senate if we're going for Senate or why he's going for Senate we also know that J. Marquis Day is going for a second term so why is he going to play out I don't know how to go over do you also think that these men would risk losing their party because again going back to Governor Wickel when he was speaking recently in River State he did say that the PDP in this state would work to win every single sit now when he got to the presidency he didn't really say anything about that and for these men who are going for all these other offices I mean they're sitting governors in this state I'm wondering was it possible that they would lose any of those seats being that they're the governors in the state it's just a question no the point is you say PDP is a grassroots party but we have structure they can't afford to work together a party that is why they're still open I assigned jobs for the electoral law that was amended people would have left but he can't leave as a team if they love the party and I think they love the party in quotes they would do what is necessary to also make amends with all their work because for me and out of these five Governor Wickel does not have anything at stake personally but he has a governorship candidate who they are put in there or who won the election, the primaries can he afford to let that man lose? no he can so for me they will vote for PDP, I cannot show you the five of them will vote for PDP and if they decide not to vote well it's personal, voting is personal but I believe they will vote for PDP and I believe there will be a reconciliation very soon very very soon PDP will always get their acts together the umbrella is so big and we'll get ourselves back under the umbrella again so we can get APC out of the way but let me say this let me say this you know this is the time to recover Nigeria and truly this man wants Nigeria to recover I remember Governor Wickel said something that APC is PDP only has headache so we are seeing a headache situation right now we'll get back get the really cancer out of the system and show that Nigeria is recovered we'll rescue it and who to do that Vice President former Vice President he has a third degree he has the spirit, he has the capacity he has the will because this is a man that wants to live a legacy for the young he wants to live a legacy for his children because for me, what does it have to gain a cycle being productive and Nigeria far better than it is now they did it before okay well I want to say thank you John Chibu is a member of the PDP Presidential Campaign Council always a pleasure to have you join us on the conversation thank you the pleasure and that's the show tonight it's been a very interesting one hour thank you for being part of the conversation now if you missed any bit of it go to our YouTube paid plus TV Africa lifestyle and plus TV Africa respectively or better still you can go to www.plustvafrica.com I am Mary Anacom have a good evening