 You know, I was thinking about that the other day, Patrick. Is that a family trait? Was your son also born in that same state? I would say my son might have been physically ready, but I think psychologically he was very much not ready to be outside and expressed that fact. Now he's good. Now he's awesome. Took him a couple of months. Yeah, it seems like that picture you posted the other day, which is the cutest thing in the world. He's like raring to go. Oh, yeah, yeah, he is now. He's as good now as he was bad before. So he's here, right? Over a year old. No, he's seven months. Seven months. Wow. Things seem so. Yeah. And he started crawling. That's that's fantastic because I build towers of toys at the other end of the room. And he makes it his mission to get there and destroy them. Like father, like son. Yeah. I mean, literally, Patrick has a room and dedicated to his passion of building up things and then crawling and destroying them. Yes, absolutely. You mean destroying the competition? Or maybe just a partition. Hmm. All right, are we ready to go? I am good. Well, I am good. I am great. You know, in what state I was born in. Yes, I think we're all very clear on that. Please buy the t-shirts at dailytechnewshow.com. Available for babies. OK. And how's 10 seconds work for everybody? Work for everybody? Good, good, good. All right, here we go. And five, four, three, two. Thanks to everyone who supports the Daily Tech News show directly to find out more, head to dailytechnewshow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, September 11, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm from Studio Feline. I'm Sarah Lane. And from the very dark Finnish countryside, I am Patrick Beja. And I am in the very brightly sunny area of the LA County Greater Metropolitan. It's not any like your disposition, Roger. It is. This is actually one of my sunnier dispositions, believe it or not. I mean, folks, I'm not going to lie. He's right. It's true. You can hear the smile in his voice. We I like to I'm trying to make sure there hasn't been a tsunami recently because I tend to like to compare the day before an Apple announcement to the water leaving a bay when a when a tsunami is on its way. Are you alluding to today's lineup, Tom? Yeah, well, I mean, there just isn't a lot of news the day before Apple makes news because nobody wants to be seen as competing with it and or not be seen because everybody won't be paying attention to it. We do have some really interesting stuff to talk about today. And let's start with a few tech things you should know. Well, Wednesday's iPhone event that's tomorrow will be live streamed on Twitter for the first time. Previously, iPhone events were only available to stream through Safari. That's obviously Apple's web browser or the Apple TV or Microsoft Edge on Windows 10. The event starts at 10 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time tomorrow and can also be streamed still via the Apple TV and Apple's event site. Alibaba launched a joint venture with Russia's mail.ru. Alibaba launched its Aliexpress service in Russia several years ago and under the new deal will hold 48% of the business. Mm-hmm, a little more China, China and Russia partnering up in all kinds of ways these days. Impossible Aerospace unveiled a new battery powered quadcopter in Las Vegas called the US-1 that has a battery-first approach. Makes batteries great. It can fly up to two hours and Aerospace has already started selling them equipped with optical and thermal sensors to firefighters, police departments and search and rescue teams in the United States. All right, let's talk a little bit more about Facebook and its AI. Right, because Facebook announced an AI system called Rosetta that helps teams at Facebook and Instagram identify text images, text in images, sorry, and to understand the subject and classify them for search or flag as abusive. So yes, memes of course, but that's not all. Optical character recognition detects the text and then convolutional neural nets determine what the text says. Yeah, so I think a lot of people are like, so you just don't see the image, what's so hard about that? But that is easier said than done on an image. It's a little bit tricky, but the big trick is then taking that text that you hopefully accurately recognized and putting it through that neural net so that it can understand the context of it and know what it's saying. And then like you said, you sure decide if that meme is too dank to be on Facebook, but also to say, oh, let's tag it, let's classify it, let's put it in the right library, whatever. Wait, this is an internal company, right, that they decided to name Rosetta. That seems like unless they are- Internal system, not a company, I don't think. Well, internal system, sure, but Rosetta Stone is the first thing that comes to mind. It's interesting that they chose that if they don't actually have any stake in that other company. Well, and Rosetta Stone is named after the actual Rosetta Stone. Sure, sure. So it's not as if they're not well within the rights to call it Rosetta if they want to. And again, it's not a brand name, it's just a code name inside of Facebook. Yeah, so I think the first of all, for the difficulty of it, yes, it's not just OCR because memes have gotten quite convoluted. Hence the need for a convolutional neural net. But yeah, some are kind of surreal. So I don't know if they managed to understand all of those, but it's not as easy as it might sound. Some older people might not even understand, and I include myself in this. Yes, you're pointing the finger at us right now. Yes. But also, I think there's another challenge in this which some people might not think of is there are a lot of images uploaded to Facebook and videos all the time. And I think the challenge of implementing this in real time or almost real time across the entire site and network and service is an impressive achievement by itself. So I think that's also a big part of it. And the fact that it can work like that is impressive. eBay has released HeadGaze on GitHub, an open source computer vision system that uses Apple's ARKit to let you control an app by lifting your head or tilting it. HeadGaze was developed by eBay's computer vision team and guided by Muraton... I'm gonna say C-check. I couldn't find an actual pronunciation. Yeah, me either. Okay, we'll go with C-check. An eBay intern and PhD candidate who describes himself as having an extensive motor impairments. Head motion and position moves the cursor and then it stays in one place for a few seconds and then it activates a click. In addition to accessibility, C-sock said that it could be used for hands-free scrolling such as when you have a recipe that would be helpful. The company is also investigating adding eye tracking as well. And actually, you know, this is an intern project over the summer. It's certainly not the first system to ever do this, but it's an intern project over the summer. C-check said, you know, I have a hard time using these apps. ARKit has a depth sensing camera. Maybe I should put those two together and whip up something and it's really impressive how smooth it works. And if you didn't quite get it, you tilt your head to move the cursor around and you've probably run into systems like this before. If you hover over something long enough, it automatically clicks. I was thinking of the Dropbox scanning. If you scan a document using the Dropbox app, if you just hold it over the document in place for a while, it automatically hits the scan button for you. So it kind of works like that. If you don't want it to be clicked, you have to kind of move away to an empty area, but you don't have to do anything to make a click happen. It's, if you watch the video, it's super elegant. And I love that C-check who needs this for accessibility and is pushing this forward for accessibility and its majority use is gonna be accessibility as saying, but hey, y'all that need to, you know, cook and look at a recipe could use it for scrolling or if you're working on your car and your hand, you know, and you don't wanna watch the how-to, you could do it, you could use it that way. There's no barrier to anybody using it for something cool. No, I mean, I don't have any obvious accessibility issues or hinders, but you know, if I'm walking my dog, I got a coffee in my hand type thing. It's like, I can think of all sorts of situations where it's like really convenient once we get used to it. And just to be clear, they implemented this in the eBay app itself and now they're making the source code available for everyone to also, if they want to implement or improve or whatever for their own apps, but it obviously on iOS, it's not gonna be something that can be used in other apps. It's not system-wide. It's not something that- I don't even know that they've launched it in the official eBay app. I think they just put the code up on GitHub and yeah. Right, but the video they're testing, the video they're testing is showing it in the eBay app. Yeah, yeah, they wrote it in Swift for the iOS eBay app. But I guess what I'm saying is if you have the eBay app, I don't think this is in there yet. No, you're right. They're using it internally. But I love that eBay, I don't think we think of them often as one of the forefront innovators out there has an intern who did this. They're letting him, at least not get in the way of him putting it up as an open source project on GitHub for other people to use. It could be adapted to Android. There's nothing stopping people from doing that and available for the world. Good job, eBay. Yay, eBay. Back in 2010, India wanted to speed up enrollment in its ADHAR ID system. We've talked about that before. It's a way to make an electronic ID across one of the largest democracies on the planet, India, a lot of people there. So they contracted a company called Mindtree to develop enrollment software called ECMP that would let private agencies sign people up. Now they did a lot of vetting of the private agencies. They did a lot of making sure that the software was only given to the private agencies and only proper authenticated people could log into the software. However, they chose locally installed software instead of the web because there's poor connectivity in large regions of India. Operators were required to provide a fingerprint or an iris scan as well as checking GPS. So they were trying to make sure like, it's really you and you're really where you say you are. But HuffPost India reported that a software patch had been widely circulated that bypassed those security checks. It bypassed GPS and fingerprint entirely and it actually weakened iris scanning so that just a photo of a person would work. And then they started selling that patch on WhatsApp for around 2,500 rupees or 35 bucks US. Operators began using the patch to charge more than they're supposed to to sign up users. Cause if they were authenticated themselves they were limited in what they could charge. But if they could just kind of sneak around and not be known that was them with this patch they could charge people 100 bucks to sign up. Audhar has stopped the third party enrollments now only allows banks and government institutions like the Postal Service to enroll new users. And the patch that HuffPost found was examined by several security experts including Dan Wallach who is a professor of computer science and electrical and computer engineering at Rice University in Houston. So it is a real patch. It's been validated by several experts. It was really out there. I think there's some misinterpretation that this is accessing people's information. It wasn't. The danger here is that you could sign up people for the system without the proper checks and balances in place. So you could sign up fake people or you could sign up someone who shouldn't have qualified from anywhere in the world because you bypassed the GPS. Yeah. And you know, anytime you get into something like democratic elections that's a huge problem. Rationing, there's rationing in some place. That too. You can start hoarding things and then sell them on the black market. It's not a good thing. And there's a lot of controversy over Aadhar about whether it's actually secure. This doesn't mean that Aadhar's database of your information is insecure if you're an Indian citizen. It's the other way around. It means that not all information in Aadhar might be legitimate. Which weakens it in a different way, I think. Do we know where the patch comes from who developed it and started selling it? No, I didn't see anything in the HuffPo article that was able to identify who did it. But it looked like it was a pretty easy cut and replace. They took some code from older versions of the client and were able to just paste it over a Java library and boom, it worked. So it didn't seem like it was terribly sophisticated. It wouldn't have to be like an advanced persistent threat or a state actor or anybody like that. So it was probably, I mean, now we're speculating, but it seems like it could have been someone who was trying to make a quick buck and selling this patch and yeah. That's kind of the general sense that everybody has is somebody wanted to charge more than the maximum to sign people up and so figured out this patch to work around the system. Clever. Maybe hire that person, I don't know. From jail. After they have paid for their... I'm not saying I would throw them in jail, but if they find them, India is going to put them in jail. I'm guessing. Liner News, Tinder has made its top picks available worldwide. The feature began testing earlier this summer. It is a curated list of your best potential matches available to paying subscribers on Tinder Gold. Coffee Meats Bagel already has a similar system. The curated list is used to reduce the number of options and reduce choice anxiety. Information in user profiles is combined with swipe behavior to determine the list. Top picks refreshes daily though users can buy more topics in amounts of 10, 20 or 30. How many topics do you need people? I love the fact that Tinder is like, listen, you're crippled by choice, we get it. We'll give you something that's going to cost you money in order to better curate and then give you all these options that are sort of hard to follow and best of luck. Well, and I love that they call them packs. So they like, they give you 10 top picks, you're already paying for Gold, they give you 10 top picks and they're like, don't like any of those? Give us a couple more money, we'll give you a new pack. It's like collecting baseball cards. I want to see my new Tinder pack. And all stars? I know I always kind of like to talk about dating app news on the show, if and when it's warranted. But I mean, if this is not the way that people are forgetting that other people are people and taking the humanity out of it, I don't know what is. People should not be sort of like baseball cards or given a monetary value in a gold package. I don't know, I think, I mean, this to me, I'm not going to say begs another question because people get angry at me when I say something begs the question. But this creates a wonderment on my part. Do they, so these top picks are people who are more suited to your, correspond more to your needs, wants, whatever, they fit your criteria more. Does that mean that they could be selecting those for everyone, but they don't and they keep the top picks for the paying subscribers? So what are you getting? When you're getting matched with other people? The data set is already there or else they wouldn't offer it as a package. So if I can make an attempt and I don't work at Tinder, so I don't know, but the way it reads is there's the algorithm that goes through and says, these are your matches and everybody gets that for free, right? But if you pay for Tinder gold, then someone will look at your interests and go, actually, out of what the algorithm selected for you, these seem like the best bets. So we'll narrow it down for you. It's like a friend going through, and in this case, they're not your friend, but they're looking at your profile and saying, oh, you like sports. This one's kind of sporty, you know. And so it's- And there is something to- Another level of the algorithm is like of the universe of Tinder. Here's everybody that matches you within a certain percentile and this is somebody picking some interesting stuff out of there more subjectively, I guess. Well, okay, if I compare it to people you might know that Facebook tries to offer up to me. Most of the time it's because I have a lot of friends in common with this other person. And sometimes that's actually very valuable. And sometimes I'm like, I might know you, or I want to know you, or this is good that we would become friends. I'm comfortable with this. So, particularly because Tinder takes so much data from Facebook and a lot of the apps do, that would also make sense. And I think there probably is some fatigue that dating apps realize that people are like, there's just too many folks out here. I only want to do this for five minutes. You know, I'd rather have a more curated list. Like, that is advantageous. I can see why that would be attracted to somebody who's a little bit overwhelmed or busy or all these good things. It's like giving your stack of matches to a trusted friend. Say Heather from have such a good day and going, just pick 10 for me out of here and that you think I might be interested in. Yeah, right, right. I'd probably want to know a little bit more about all the things that Tinder has put together to decide who these people are. But I get the idea. That's the question. I mean, either it is a deeper algorithm or like go one level deeper in the Tinder algorithm. And like, if it's an algorithm, then it's a refined version of the algorithm that not everyone gets. If it's a person, I understand the intent of like, yeah, someone will handpick those. I would be very surprised if the people doing this wouldn't be like randomly selecting people after a couple of days at home. Right, yeah, because that's how we get. Yeah. At first you're carefully looking at the thing and then you're like, all right, you know this one. 10 or so, you're real careful and after a while you get bored and you're like, eh, that's fine. He has a soccer ball, sure. Yeah, he has. He was with a lion and my friend. And you know, again, I don't want to seem like I don't believe in the power of dating apps. It's not too dissimilar from going to a bar where you think, oh, a lot of the people here might be my kind of people. So, and I've done my share of dating. No, no. I do feel like it's, it starts to kind of tear away the fun of it a little bit. But again, that's on my own. It would be like going in the bar and asking the bouncer, like, pick five of these folks for me. And do it quickly. I paid a premium. Yeah, right. I'm a gold member. All right, moving on. This one's actually, this is very exciting, but the potential of it is very exciting anyway. A project designed to clean up 88,000 tons of plastic floating in what's being called the Great Pacific Garbage Patch. It's not good. It's a very, very bad, big garbage patch in the Pacific began on Sunday. The Ocean Cleaner Project started following its Ocean Cleanup System 001 from San Francisco to a trial site about 240 nautical miles offshore. That's about 260 miles. The hope is that a combination of wind and waves will push System 001 into a U shape of sorts and kind of start collecting the plastic as if it was picking it up. Then it's got a 10 foot long skirt hanging below that will collect pieces of plastic as small as a millimeter in size. So it's designed to clean up a lot of stuff. Smaller boats will later scoop them up and take them to shore for recycling. Now, after this initial trial, the boom will be lowered another 900 nautical miles to begin that much larger cleanup of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch in its entirety if that's even possible, but why not give it a go? Crews will stay at the patch for about six months. And then the idea is that autonomous vehicles will do the work once the humans come back to shore later on. So it's a big broom, basically. It's a big net, more than a room. Well, I'm thinking it's a big broom that's collecting all the plastic. It's a broom dustpan. And the smaller boats are the dustpan, right? Yes, exactly. And the smaller boats come in because it's not picking it up itself. It's just trying to gather it all together so it's easier to cart away. Exactly, yeah, with a variety of large boats. And yeah, I mean, autonomous water vehicles sort of going back and forth. And this is something that is successful on any level. It's a great idea. And humans probably don't want to live out on the garbage patch for very long. I applaud all the people who are involved in the project in its early stages, but it's a huge problem. I've only seen photos, but it's pretty disheartening to know that there's so much garbage out there. And I'm into it. Also, the fish can swim under it, so. Well, that's the hope, right? And that's why the initial net in the trial is so shallow. Because 10 feet, you're like, eh, you're gonna miss a lot of stuff, but the idea is to not disrupt plankton and all sorts of like the ecosystem that's going on, not that far under the surface, way, way, way far offshore. That's really important. And I understand 88 tons is not a small amount, but 260 miles offshore. I mean, how much of it? It's 80,000 tons. 88, yeah, what did I say? 88,000 tons, sorry. But I mean, it seems like I don't wanna diminish the merits of sending a giant broom in the ocean, but it seems to me like this is only going to be a tiny part of what needs to be picked up. And it's gonna seem to me. I guess it's a proof of concept that says, look, if we can make this trial run work at all, then we can start scaling it up, doing more, and load more than 16 tons. And that's the idea is that they're gonna initially use this, work out if there are any keins that they need to put into any subsequent models, and then they'll have essentially a fleet of these. So it won't be just one gigantic, you know, you net or boom that goes to the water, it'll be, you know, a half a dozen or more trawling the seas. And the idea is that you'll get most of the large plastic now. 8% of that plastic's already broken down into microscopic parts, and this boom won't fix it, but it can grab the other 90% of it, which is, you know, the idea is to get it before it breaks down or causes itself in a sea turtle or something. It's a sea Roomba. Yeah, that's the ultimate goal, is that it will be a sort of a sea Roomba. These are the stories I get excited about the way the rest of you get excited about space. Because you're a sea quest girl. Yeah, it's kind of a fusion. It's great. I like the sea, I like water. One can like space and the sea at the same time. I bridge the gap. It's true, it's true. My life, my love and my lady is the sea. Well, I wouldn't go that far. As they sang in Brandy. Just like a good sea broom. Hmm, well, I hope that they will sing shanties of the success of the ocean cleanup system, 001 and 002 and 003 or unless they go by an area, I don't know. But yeah, I agree, Sarah, this is fascinating. All right, finish up with Japan's Renaissance electronics agreeing to buy California's integrated device technology. That's a Silicon Valley company. And this will help Renaissance push farther into semiconductors for autonomous cars. We've been kind of watching this if you're following DTNS regularly, all of the different companies trying to get into autonomous cars. In fact, member Broadcom, NXP and Qualcomm were sort of in a love triangle of acquisition that fell apart for various reasons. But the reason NXP was a prize in that was because of their work with autonomous cars. Renaissance has about 30% of the global market for microcontrollers in cars. In fact, they're second to NXP. IDT will then add to them the ability to manufacture analog semiconductors for wireless networks and sensors. That's something that Renaissance was not as proficient at. And that will let Renaissance compete more in the Internet of Things car space. IDT also makes chips for data centers. So you've got a big nice current revenue stream coming in there to fund yourself as you move into that growing autonomous car market, which right now is nothing, right? But everybody expects it to boom. Renaissance expects to close the deal to acquire IDT sometime in the first half of 2019. I get excited about autonomous cars. Listen, Tom, I get excited about the C as you get excited about autonomous car. You know what I love? Face. Yeah, you know what? The reason I like stories like this is they may sound boring to you now, like Japanese company buying a company, huh? Why do I care, Tom? You are going to sound way smarter about this in a year when you're like, oh, you mean like when Renaissance bought IDT because this is the story that pays off later. This is the thing where you understand why a company is doing something later or why somebody, it comes out of nowhere, it seems like. Like, where did they come from? Why are they so successful? Because you know about these little acquisitions like this because if autonomous cars take off as everyone expects them to, then these companies are gonna be rising on that tide. Whether it's Renaissance that leads the way or whether they get bought by somebody else, you know, is hard to tell. But it's something to keep an eye on is like, okay, they're starting to consolidate because everybody wants a little bit of that autonomous car money that's being developed. And it does kind of underscore the importance of what autonomous cars bring in terms of market opportunity. Like, Rene's RSS is typically known for doing embedded microcontrollers as well as like USB 3 or 2.0 controllers for add-on cards or PCs that, you know, you use all the PCIe lanes for whatever and you wanna add stuff. That's what they've been doing. And this is clearly a growth market that they see as ripe for investing in and, you know, definitely look down the road because it won't just be this one company that will be investing this technology because it's a huge market for them. Folks, if you wanna get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. Thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You help us make the news every day. And we thank you for it. You can submit stories and vote on others at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Wanna hang out on Facebook? Well, I've got good news. Facebook.com.slashgroup.slashdailytechnewshow is where to go. So that ocean story came off the subreddit, didn't it? Sure did. Look at that, see? Yeah. It really does. And I wouldn't have seen it otherwise. Let's see what's in the mailbag. Let's do it. Grateful patron, Andrew. That's self-proclaimed. Thank you, Andrew. It says, Tom, since you mentioned the USPS mail scanning service on Good Day Internet, I thought I'd email in to mention how much I love it. We recently moved. I checked the box for informed delivery as they call the service on a whim. It's amazing to see the front of letters that are coming, meaning the group of letters that will be delivered to Andrew, as well as getting notified the packages are coming. Anyone in the US, as far as I can tell, can sign up without having to move. And that's informeddelivery.usps.com. Yeah, so Good Day Internet is the full pre and post show plus DTNS all in one available to patrons at patreon.com slash DTNS. And I was talking about setting up my change of address because I'm moving and running across this informed delivery. And just like Andrew, I discovered that, you know, I was like, oh, I guess I'll try it. Somebody else emailed us and I'll see if I can quickly find out who it was and said that the reason they're able to do this is they already scan an image every one of the pieces of mail that comes through. I think this was Gardner who said this. So he said the mail sorting hardware already makes an image of each mail piece to sort and track it. It's just a matter of storing that so that you can access it. They don't open the mail. It's pretty cool that you're able to do that even just to see what's coming so you know whether that check is in fact in the mail. Absolutely. Well, thanks Andrew for emailing and of course thanks to Patrick Beja especially because it's very late where you are for being up with us. Patrick, what's been going on since we spoke with you last? Well, you know what? There is another show you could be getting if you are a patron of DTNS. Say what? It's called MVGB. See DTNS MVGB? It stands for Monthly Video Game Briefing and you know what? 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Excellent. Done. Very good show, everyone and thank you for your patience. You know, it's worth waiting for, folks. Aw. Aw. Hey, Tom, last, last technical question I have. Ever? You run the audio. Is that a lot of pressure? Patrick. Until the next one. All right, what's your question? You still run the audio through Levelator, do you? I do, yeah. OK, so after you finish the recording, you levelate it and then edit it. Oh, no, you don't edit it since it's all OK. Yeah, it's live to tape, so I don't have to do much editing. But yeah, I take the, I take the levelated wave, I put it in on Destiny and export it as an MP3. I see. OK. Is that wrong? Is that the wrong answer? Oh, no, I was, I mean, I just, I was curious. I'm re-evaluating my production pipeline. I see, I see, I see. You still want it? Yeah, what? Sorry, Roger. Oh, no, I say, did you still want to edit your audio? Do you just want to do live to? No, I'm still editing it just a little bit, so. But I don't know why my, my mic has been having some, as we were discussing before the show started, some level issues in many of my shows. It varies widely, and I'm not sure it does it when I speak to you, because here it's, you know, when I don't speak directly into the mic, it's a little bit lower, but not to the point that it becomes annoying. And in my shows, it sometimes does. And I don't know what is wrong. Is that like European? Did you buy it in Europe or America? I can't remember. Maybe Europe. Well, because I'm wondering if it's just on strike. Oh, I'm sure it was made in the US. I mean, it's a real role. No, actually, do you run any kind of, I mean, do you use that mic for anything besides podcasts? You don't use it for gaming or nothing? Not really. No, I've had, in all seriousness, I've had that, you know, with the high LPR-40 running through a Mackey mixer, sometimes when I record, it's just lower. And I think it has to do with the software, because it's usually a different setup, somewhat. No, but the thing is it varies during the show, like from one sentence to another. I see what you're saying. It's short. Well, that's what I was wondering, like, that sounds like the behavior of something that's auto-leveling or gating your... It's weird. And I mean, maybe it's my USB interface. I don't know. Anyway. What's the name of the show? The name of the show will be... eBay turns heads with head gaze. Oh, eBay turns heads. I like that. Yeah, with head gaze. Or Tinder, the gold standard of wingmen. Looking for... Oh, I love this one, Somewhere Beyond the Sea Roomba. You know, the... Oh, S-E-A Roomba. Beyond the Sea, by... Beyond the Sea Roomba. Leaning me. Bobby Dern. Well, so many people did it. Sinatra did it, too. But didn't he write the song? Nobody wrote songs back then. What are you talking about? Everything was public domain. It just came out of the wall. No, no, no. I mean, like, the songwriters never performed their own songs. That was a big deal in the 60s, right? It was like, he writes his own songs. Wait a minute. Is that why Time Life had the Singer Songwriter Collection? So wait, are we just going eBay turns heads with head gaze? I can't decide. There's some more guys I'm going to go. OK. I'm, it's like... Thank you very much. See you next week. Many hugs and love. Bye. See you next week. Paying for matches. Tinder, the gold standard of wingmen. I don't know. Sarah, you have to decide. I can't pick. Jesus, you can't hear me. Oh. eBay turns heads with head gaze at the top. I heard my name. What? Roger has some options for titles, and I like them all, so you have to pay. eBay turns heads with head gaze. I like that. Tinder, the gold standard of wingmen. And then, where was it? Somewhere beyond the sea, Roomba. The last one? Let's go with the ocean. Option three. Ocean it is. Beyond the sea. Roomba. Cleaning for me. OK, well, that was a fun adventure. I mean, I'm still at a significant loss as to what I thought I fixed yesterday, but it's like, where is it? Well, anyway, we can talk about it later. Let's just say, for those of you wondering to know, and I know there are people out there who are like, oh, well, I'm really interested. What was the technical issue that you tech experts had to solve? It was the equivalent of unplugging, having something not plugged in in the end. It just took us a while to find it. Yeah, it was. It's fine. Everything's fine. Yeah. No, I mean, listen, I'm going to be honest. Windows 10, don't use it very often. There was a mute option. Very buried. Didn't see it. Yeah. For a while. Don't know why it was muted either. Nope. There's no rhyme or reason why it should have been, but it was. So when we figured that out, it all started working. So please send your Snickers. Yes. And your Gears. And your M&Ms. Actually, if you could send. Please also bring Twix, because we really like Twix. Crackle bars. I could go with a crackle bar. Now, I wonder if I think what I'm going to do, we're just going to go ahead and make this whole system Windows. And it starts today. Hey, hey. If you want, you can install Team Viewer on it and then I can remotely. Open my nose if anything really mess up your machine. All right. So don't install it. Now that Tom's put it that way. Oh, I'm just kidding. Good. You're like you're like the legal department. Well, you know, I never touch those. They make everything worse. Roger, you want your eyes done? You want your Lasik done for free? Well, I don't know. There's some liability the company doesn't want to hold. All right. But even if I sign it, it doesn't matter if you sign a waiver. It's like, OK. Well, I don't see that. Doesn't look so. Oh, oh, oh, I keep wanting to ask this and I keep forgetting. So the books behind me. I'm about ready to pack up. As I slowly pack up the house for the move. Yeah. But I've been thinking, you know, originally my thoughts were, I'll just leave them up there until the move. But now I'm getting anxious and I was thinking it might be fun to just slowly replace them with something else that's not necessary to pack. But what could that be? Is it something that you're like is like tossable or just like a cardboard sign that says books used to be here? Or I don't know, like a teacher. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. How about, yeah, signs you might see in place of a book. Mm hmm. And I will take requests. It could be like, you know, the Twitter memes where it's like, describe a bad movie in four words. Yeah. I could put different messages from the audience up there. Yeah. Why not? Yeah, put a sheet of butcher paper or something. If you lived on this shelf, you'd be home right now and very cramped. Or you could alternate it with, you know, a nice respectable message as someone puts up there, like, you know, hey, go root whatever sports team and you'll hold it for there for the day. Immediately someone would want us to put up something about the Cubs. I just pretty sure that's how that works. Well, you know, maybe you have a little neon sign that says, eat at Joe's. Mm hmm. I used to eat at Joe's in San Rafael. What if we, this might be two ambitious but if someone, I don't know, do you have like a picture frame you're not using? If somebody like sent you like a eight by 10 of them wearing like the TNS gear, they could be in the back. Oh, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they have to say, you know, like you're not going to like go nuts, like printing a bunch of photos. But if somebody. No, I've got some spare frames or I could even just, you know, yeah, exactly. It doesn't have to be a nice frame. Just the idea of seeing yourself at the studio before it becomes a very similar studio and a new location. I could actually just do a green screen. That's what everyone thinks at the green screen anyway. You should still say like, Tom, we know better. We can, you know, yes, this is because it's fun for them. It's fun. It's not because it really seems like I don't think so. No, I don't think so. No, well, you don't have any like old, too bad, old computer boxes. You could just kind of make it seem like you know, I don't have them here. I moved them already. How much would you say percentage wise you've done and have yet to do? Oh, less than 10 percent. Oh, OK, OK. So it's moving well underway. I've packed up all the books that set to my left. I've packed up most of the closet that had the all the crap that I would seemingly pull out of nowhere. And I've moved about half that closet already. The whole upstairs still needs to be packed. That's that's yet to come. Although it seems like most of almost sort of the meticulous slash heavy things are in the studio. So maybe you're getting getting the most, you know, kind of the. And we did hire the company that's moving us. We hired them to come in on the day before the move and finish packing. So if there's anything left, like I'm thinking glassware and stuff where I get nervous. I'd rather somebody else break it than me. So when it's heard and then, yeah. And then the reason we and we've got them hired to basically pack up whatever boxes I don't take over there on my own and the furniture, you know, you need a truck for that. Yeah. Yeah. The last time I moved significantly, I guess it's when I moved away. It was it was it was I kind of did that like hybrid thing for the first time, which felt very indulgent, where I'm like, I'm packing things. There are a lot. I mean, I've done a lot of work. I've gotten pretty much everything out of, you know, closets. And, you know, you can see it all. But the moving company just like they packed my junk drawer and just stuff that's like time consuming and kind of dirty. And it was it was really nice to not do all of it. Well, I've always packed all the stuff myself. In the olden days, I used to move myself, but I have too much big stuff now. But when we moved here from San Rafael, Google paid for Eileen to move. So they paid for somebody to pack it up. And that was the revelation to me of like, oh, this is this is the first class of someone and this is very comfortable. I didn't really anything. Like they just packed it all. Yeah. I'm, you know, I'm not willing to splash out quite that much. So so the way the company that I found, I love the way this works. They give you a maximum. They're like, if we pack all day of the day before and we move everything the day after and you don't do a thing, this is how much it'll be. But the more you pack, the less the day of the packing will cost you. And the more you move, the less the day of the moving will cost you. So is that calculated by time? Yeah. Well, what if they just work more slowly because they know that you packed a little bit already? I mean, you just kind of honor system. Well, part of it is like those guys are movers after their work really. They don't really want to be there longer than they have to be. It's true. Yeah, I'll be honest. Like they could do that. And then I think it would be reflected in their reviews. Like their reviews on the stuff are really good. So I don't think I don't think it's in their best interest to do that. They want to make you happy so that you tell everybody else. Yeah, they're saying like, oh, a house cleaner is just going to clean slowly. It's like, well, that's not always true. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the thing is like, I only know this because I talked to the movers that moved me. It's like there's a there's a limit on the truck and then on depending on traffic. And this is the thing with my movers. They wanted to move at a certain time because they wanted to skip traffic leaving the Bay Area on the way down to LA. And so they had they had this whole timing thing because they actually moved it to where my parents live on the Central Valley. And then the next day they went down in the morning. But they had to skip the traffic because every extra minute was cost for the company. They keep those guys running and the truck and all that stuff. So they try to minimize the time and maximize the amount of money. You know, I had the same. There was a company that they actually don't even really move from San Francisco to LA, but I had used them a few times. Kind of we had a good rapport. And when I moved to LA, they were like, we don't usually do this, but we could work something out. So yeah, it was like it was the same thing. They were at my house in San Francisco. I think it was like a Tuesday or something at the crack of dawn to get out of there as early as possible and then still stay on the five somewhere along the way and then meet me in LA the next day. It's it's crazy, like those guys, it's a lot of work. We moved, I guess we moved on a weekend, maybe, because I know that the the movers came with the idea of packing up and leaving in the evening. They wanted to leave like six or seven because then they drove partway down and then stayed overnight somewhere and finished the move the next morning. And I basically like saw them off, made sure that everything was out of the house, locked up the house, and then I hit the road and drove down with the dogs and a bunch of stuff that they wouldn't take, like cleaning fluid and alcohol and stuff. I had to drop that all off at the with Golden or Sunset Recycling. Because they just took it with me in the car. Scavenger, that's it. All the chemicals. Chris King just messaged us on Patreon and I love this. I want to do this more often. By the way, we should say goodbye to the video people. Thanks, everybody, for. Bye, video people. See you guys tomorrow.