 It's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it, man. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O. Now we're with the lovely, amazing official. Miss Jamaica. Wait. Walk on. Hey, man. Man, Eclipse Darkness? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. What the heck going on, man? But your name messed me up every time I was looking. I was like, Eclipse Darkness? Yeah, I know. You're going to have to explain that to me. Yeah, because at first, when we were looking on the Instagram, it was just Eclipse. Eclipse, right, right, right. And I'm like, oh, no, it's darkness. So where the why? Yeah, so you know how I go. S-E-O purposes. Eclipse Darkness, you know, because if you look up Eclipse, or back in the day, you know, I learned this early on. When it came to marketing and running ads and all that stuff, you'll find like gum, cards, all kinds of stuff. So for S-E-O purposes, so that people could find me immediately with no issues, I was like, let me put, you know, the darkness on it. But why do we're in darkness? You know, it could be Eclipse something else, but why darkness? Right. But I can't remember how the darkness came about. It was something that happened to it. Because you're dark skinned? Nah, I don't remember. It was like a play on words, because it's just like, you know, Eclipse Darkness, yes, it brings darkness, you know, when Eclipse happened, you know, so I think that was part of it, and then it just kind of stuck. But at the end of the day, it was like, everybody still called me Eclipse anyway, so it was just like, you know, but when they know the search for me, they know Eclipse Darkness, because I put it on everything. Yeah, because the first time whenever you said darkness, I'm like, is he gonna be like a dark Gothic type of person? Yeah, yeah. That's what I got from the word darkness. I'm like, okay. What is it? What is it? If you calling yourself dark, I'm black as hell. Let me do it right. I'm blackness. You ain't done much darker than me. Whatever. I love you. As y'all know today, we drinking Sprite. Let me just say that subscribers, we usually don't drink Sprite, but it's a reason we drinking Sprite today. And I just want to let y'all know the reason we drinking Sprite. She gonna turn it around, so. Oh, oh, she want me to turn it around. Yeah. But I thought y'all just seeing me capping in high side. And so, I mean, check it, man. Hey, man, we hear a man. Even if darkness is in the building. Hold on. Y'all don't forget to like, subscribe, and follow us on all social media platforms, okay? Even all the podcast platforms. We everywhere. So, Bossed Out Podcast 101, make sure you link in. Damn it, man. She showed up putting it down. Like, we ain't never really just put it in there like that. We gotta start. We just do more often. But you hear today, man, and you actually do things with Sprite. Absolutely. But before you get into that, let's go back. You gonna get in this back history. Yeah, if you want to know anybody who's sitting in that seat, we'd like to know a little bit about your history. Oh, they want to know about your history. I don't want to know. I don't know if y'all want to know, but I don't want to know, okay? Yeah. We want to know where were you raised, how you were raised, your environment. Tell us all the goofy stories, all the serious stories. Yeah. I mean, everything. We want to know it all. Yeah, this is always a funny, interesting story to tell because a lot of people, they don't know where I grew up. But I grew up in West Dallas. What? Oh, Cliff, yeah. Yeah, I know. Ooh, that nigga thugging. I didn't know it. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Listen, and the funny part, like, I love telling people about is the projects. West Dallas Project's Rupert Circle. Whoo. Yeah, so I don't know if you know it. Yeah, you know, okay, so you know it. Yeah, so that's where I grew up for a little bit. And then, you know, I had to get up out of there. You know, it was just, it was just horrible. But, you know, I learned a lot of things, learned how to, you know, use them hands. Had no choice out there. Yeah. How old were you when you left out there? Man, I had to have been probably maybe around 10. Okay, because you got about there, like, you can just get up at 10 years old and go move yourself, so. Right, right. Like, I was the one making the moves. You know what, I can't do this no more. Yeah, but, you know what I'm saying, mama, you know, she raised me right. She was like, oh no, we can't be having our lives. You know, not my baby. We ain't finna go down that route. So you had a lot of fights and a lot of trouble? At first, you know, and then like in school, it was at George Washington Carver. I was getting to fights there, you know. And that was just because people would pick on me. Because I was like articulate in the way I spoke. I was like, oh, he think he good. He better than everybody, you know, blah, blah, blah. And you know what I'm saying, talking like that, going back to the hood, you know, and then my mama still had me dressed nice, you know, with the nightclothes. But the school boys weren't going. Listen, so, you know, I was like, God, Lee, you know, what's the problem? You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so we moved around, moved around out of there and ended up going to a magnet school, you know, which was definitely a better fit. So where was your dad doing all this time? Man, so my dad was in and out, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't really around. He wasn't really there. So I had to grew up with a single parent, single mom, you know, so that he was... Where was he at? He... These niggas be treated. Yeah, exactly. He was out here. Did a nigga send you some money sometimes? At least two dollars or so? Listen, did he spend summers and holidays with him? Where was this boy at, man? This man was something else. Papa was a rolling stone. Papa was out there. No, but look, he was sending money, though. No, he was definitely helping out financially. Most of the dads did come over. Yeah. They'll pitch stores weird. But what's most important, though, is sending the money more important or actually being present? Being there, yeah. Thank you. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. How did that affect you him not being there in your life and being raised by a woman? Right, so of course I always, you know, you always have to question or wonder, you know what I'm saying, growing up when, you know, a parent's not there. But my mom, she was like really straightforward, you know? So my mom would always explain, you know what I'm saying? She wouldn't have a problem with me, you know, trying to reach out and, you know, give him a call. You want to see your dad? Yeah, give him a call if he were at. You know? That's no problem. And, you know, he would show up. He would show up sometimes. Like, you know, I'm going to go with this. He would show up sometimes, right? You know? I go see him for the weekend, kick it or whatever. And then, but the moment he had, you know, a little hot thing or something, you know? Yeah, the holla thing. I wouldn't see him that much, you know what I'm saying? So, you know when there was problems in the relationship. Yeah. Because, you know, that, okay, that's him, you know what I'm saying? Pop some mails, man. I know because it's hard, man, because you got to understand, man, let me just be real for a second, man. Yeah. Even if you got a chance to even deal with your father at all, it's a blessing because a lot of people didn't even get to deal with their fathers at all because we've seen that on this show, man. Yeah. One guy, his dad was actually a minister and he never did get to even shout out the asshole in gold. Hmm. He never get to, that's why he named himself asshole in gold. Wow. Because his dad never, he never got to talk to him. And he talked to him at 15, was it, man? At 15, he got to speak to him one time because he seen him at Krogis because when he was walking, he was pushing the basket and he said, hi son. Wow. You know, how you doing, son? Yeah. Not knowing that was really his son. Not knowing that was really his son. What? Because he's seen him putting envelopes of money under the door when he took out of school one day. Yeah. But he never got to meet his father because his father was a minister and he had another family. Wow. So you can think your story may be complicated, but there's more stories that's more complicated than yours. Nah, I agree. Some fathers, I had a woman that came on here who father sexually molested her until she, her mom found her owner at six years old. Hmm. And then the stepfather did the same thing. She was molested until she was 24 years old. Then she went out to be a doctor and a counselor over those type situations. So what I'm telling you is, you think your story is something, but there are stories out here that push yours to shame. And even with those stories, I'll guarantee you there is still more. More. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. So you got to thank God for the little father that you had. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because we know who the high power father is if you believe like me. I don't know how you believe. No, absolutely. Amen. The darkness is a name that you know you got to be careful for how you tread. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. But no, when you know that these things are happening, you got to have some faith in the high power because you can't depend on an earthly father like that sometime, but a supernatural father, you can't. Right, right. I'm just saying. Yeah, no, that was definitely taught in my family by my mom, my grandmother. Anybody who knows my mom and they'll tell you, look, my daughter, she be talking about, won't he do it? Like, because that's what we, you know, live off of and go by and I tell people that's what I go off every day. Honestly, you know, being an entrepreneur, you know. That's it. Working for yourself, you go off of faith every single day whether you like it or not. Like, you know, because you don't know where that next check and stuff gonna come from. And there's a reason for everything. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So getting back into your journey, so you moved out of, you moved from out of West Texas. Where did you go to? So we got out West Dallas. West Dallas. So we got out the hood, you know. And then I attended Sydney LaNear Vanguard at the time. So I went to our Arts Magnet School and that's where I found a love for acting and music. And then I went to Griner, which is a middle school for Arts Magnet as well, and continue to pursue music. Actually, I think I did a little bit of dance too. Art, yep, I did. I actually did everything. I did everything, experimenting with everything. And that's what led me to, then by that time we moved to like North Dallas. So we was trying to, you know, get into better areas and things like that. Stay out of trouble. And we went to, what was it? What was it? Booger tea. Went to Booger tea and that's where, you know, I graduated and a lot of things just kind of changed in my life. Everything just kind of took off from there like career-wise. And after that. Booger tea is the school to go to when you're doing acting, music, everything. Yes. That's the school. Did you ever do, okay, did you ever go to Mr. King? You know, everybody goes through there. What's that place? TB? TB? Like an academy? Yeah. What's it called? It's like a theater. It's like an art academy. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. No, I didn't, I didn't. It's like he does a lot with the kids too. No, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't go there. It's more than just him, Steph. You try that. This guy's dope through a different avenue. God has a way of getting to his people. Look now, but Booger tea, they definitely taught me like discipline and like that's the, that's the spot for networking for sure. Because so many people who were in the industry came through and taught the students a lot. And also gave us opportunities. So anybody I know pursuing art, music, dance, anything in an entertainment and they in high school or given to go to high school, I definitely recommend they attend that high school because that's going to kind of... How hard is it to get in? I mean, yeah, you have to audition. But it's easier if you come from our arts, magnet and middle school. Okay. Got you. And, excuse me, Booger tea. They look at Griner, you know, how every, every school they have like, okay, the middle school is where we look for, you know, our talent. Griner is the middle school that Booger tea really looks at, you know, of course they accept anybody from anywhere, but that's the main one. So to have an advantage, if you go to Griner, you'll definitely have a higher advantage to get into Booger tea. Okay. So tell me about after you left there, what did you do next? Man, so after that, I graduated. I went to UNLV and Fort County. So that was my backup plan, you know. I was like, I like vocabulary, like numbers, I'm good, you know, in that area. So let me just do that. And that's crazy because you'd think that after you left Booger tea, you would just go straight into acting or, you know, singing and all of that. Right, right. So, and that was the thing, like I went to college and it was just like, after two years, it just wasn't for me. It was just like, it just wasn't for me, you know, it wasn't for me. I was still doing music and stuff like that at the time. So you didn't take it serious? Yeah, like it was just like, I'm like, okay, this is cool and all, but I just see me doing something else. Okay. You know, so I did America's God Talent. Oh, okay. What year was that? I can't even remember. I can't even remember what year. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can definitely Google it. Okay. You know, you Google. So how did you do, how was the process? Oh man, we killed it. We killed it. We did the audition, I think in like Houston and everybody loved it. It was going crazy. It was like, okay, we definitely want you on the show. You know, you'd have made it through the auditions and I was like, okay, cool. So did the show and, you know, it was in front of millions of viewers. Right. They did the little voting thing. How do people, you know... Who was the host then when you went? What's her name? Old girl with the red hair. I was born. Okay. Yeah, so she was there. Well, Nick Cannon was the host. She was one of the judges. Yeah, that's what I was like. I know Nick Cannon was there for a while, so I wasn't sure. Yeah, so he was hosting when I did the show. But I was born, she was one of the judges. There was another guy. I can't remember his name. He was a country singer. But anyway, they loved the show, loved the performance that I put on. Everybody voted yes. You know, ended up going to Vegas for the finals. So it was like, you made it to Vegas for the finals. Yeah. But the funny thing... But how pressuring it is to be on that show. How much pressure do you feel? Oh, man, it was crazy. It was... And then you were away from your family and everybody. So how is that? Yeah, well, so when I did the show, I have a huge support system. When it comes to my family, my cousin and my mom was there. You know, so they came along. So they definitely supported me through the entire journey. Okay. So they came along from day one. And, you know, once we made it to Vegas, they hit us with a contract. And it was like, you know, we want to offer more. We want to do this and do that. But in order to be on the last taping in Vegas, you have to sign a contract. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's like that. But I thought it's like, when you win, then you get the contract and you get all of that. What kind of contract do you get? Exactly. Before you go... Right. I was like, I don't know if they knew, or they had plans on me winning, or they knew I was going to win. Oh, so it's probably rigged. So it's a production. So I was like, man, they hitting us with the contract already? So if you don't sign this, you don't win. Right. So didn't end up signing it. But wasn't even a good contract, though? Did you actually, like, read it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we definitely read it. Had an attorney, a music attorney look at it. And it just didn't... It wasn't what you wanted. It wasn't what I wanted at the time. It was just like, nah, we don't want to get locked into something like this. Okay. So we was like, appreciate the opportunity, but we're going to keep pushing and doing what we're doing over here. But that definitely helped take the career off to the next level, because I ended up getting on radio and Atlanta and different other cities and states and working with my boy Jay White. And we continued to work together on music and it just opened up different doors and kind of, it really grew my base. But he still lets you go on till the finish, though? Nah, nah. So if you don't sign that contract, then you can't shoot the last... No, because if you're on America's... I was about to say top model business. America's Got Talent. America's Got Talent. And everybody's watching, and you made it to Vegas and all of a sudden you disappeared. You have to go on for that last show and they say, okay, well, you didn't make it through. Right, so what they do is with the tapings, right? Because they have their batch for the last ones. So people who don't sign, then they replace them with, you know, someone else. Yeah, so... So all of a sudden you just didn't show up the next week? Right, so what they do with the next episode or, you know, the final clippings... I need to look for that. Yeah, you'll find it. No, when I say look for that, I mean like I need to go back and start watching them and say, okay, did somebody disappear? Right, right. You know, because I've never noticed that before. So what they do is they'll show like little clips and then, you know, you have the voiceover person, you know, they'll start talking about, you know, the final accent, maybe how, you know, other people didn't, you know, make it to the last round or whatever, so that was one of those things. Because when you Google it, there's nothing about me being disqualified or, you know, like... Yeah, not making it, you know, so it's that question like, oh, what happened? You know, we don't know what happened to the clips, but it's all over the internet, so... So yeah, they got you on a part of that, huh? Yeah, they was like, oh, you don't want to sign. Man, crazy. You didn't want to sign the contract. Well, you know, you don't sign the contract over at Boss Talk. You won't be on this seat either. Let's be real about it. Let's be real. Let's be real. It's got to be some situations and organization going on up in here. No, facts. So I get it, you know, it stay rules, it stay game, okay? You can pretty much... No, but the contract was for a record deal. Yeah, the contract was for a deal to sign with America's Got Talent. Well, why you didn't do it? It wasn't a good deal. Okay, so he declined. But so everybody who goes on America Got Talent, anybody who wins, that's who they sign with. Yeah, so in order for you to be on that last taping and be a final, be a winner, you got to sign that contract. And when you... But it's not even just the winner, it's all the finalists have to sign. I messed a little bit of it. How far did you go? Even to the finals. To the finals in Vegas. Really? But he just didn't show up. I mean, that didn't show up. They didn't allow him to go any further because he didn't... Who won? That year. Man, I can't even... Oh, I think it was a, what you call it, group. They was like dancers and dealing with like doing tricks and stuff. It was one of those groups, probably like 10 of them or something like that. Wasn't it worth it for the experience? Oh yeah, absolutely. Got a lot of eyes on you as well. That's what I'm saying that, you know, I took it for that. I was like, okay, well, this put me in front of millions of viewers and everybody loved it. So we're doing something right. But how many people reached out to you after that? A lot. Yeah, there were plenty of opportunities. You on television with that platform, that many people, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're going to have some people reaching out. You ever thought about getting into reality TV? Uh, not really. You don't want to fight on TV? I know right, listen. It's like, ah, that reality TV show. Just because, like, when you know how it goes, you know what goes on. You got your fiancee, they're going to bring your old girlfriend in and set her in the same place. Yeah. And they're going to say, you know, well, you know, eclipse darkness, she want to say a word to you. You left me without even, and she started bringing up the old stuff. And then she's sitting there looking and the next thing you know. This is how they play. They just do it on purpose. They do it on purpose. Yeah, they do it. They don't, it's real, but it's people putting places to make people uncomfortable. Right. That's what I think is going on. No, absolutely. So you don't want to do something like that? They ain't got time for none of that. They ain't got time for none of that. I don't want any of that. What if they're telling you're going to get 75,000 episodes? 75,000 episodes? She's like, hmm. Yeah, put that girl over there and now let's get it popping. She's like, hmm, maybe. Yeah, for about three seasons. About two season guarantee. Baby, what you want to do? So, man, did we get to the Sprite? Not yet. Let's go ahead. Let's walk up on the Sprite. So you're doing a Sprite. How did that happen? Commercials now where you got your music in the Sprite commercials. Yeah, so we were in the Sprite. Turn it around. Why are you always saying that? He's showing them the can. They know the can. They know the can green. Ain't nobody tripping. They know the green can. Yeah. You know, so what made it, how did you do it? How did you even get seen in that way? Did you ever think you'd be doing all of this with Sprite? Man, it's funny because I'm a big believer when it comes to manifesting things, right? And just speaking it into existence. So I take a look back at a lot of things in my life and I look at, you know, back then and I look at now and it's just like, wow. Everything I've been talking about, you know, since I started up until now has been happening, right? And I figured out what I think is, you know, what we call the secret and just showing gratitude and just, you know, pretty much speaking it, thanking the universe for my blessings and letting it know I'm ready for my next blessing, right? Yeah. So years back I created this commercial because we were talking about, man, we need to do something with Sprite, we need to be with Sprite. So I created a commercial and it's probably still on YouTube, probably still on my Instagram like years and years ago. I walk in the store, I pick up a Sprite, you know, I'm drinking it, you know, I'm rapping and everything because, you know, Sprite for the hip hop. So it came about from fans letting them know that they should be paying attention to me because there was this post they did and they were like, who should we be looking at? We're looking for some artists for our Spriteway campaign. So this was something new they were doing. And I had no clue about it until I started getting tagged in it and I was like, okay, yeah, this is dope. And it happened fast. It was really fast. It was like the next day they reached out in my DMs and was like, hey, I probably still have it. It was like, hey, people telling us we should be paying attention to you. Did you believe it at first? Like, damn, this Sprite. Nah, really, I was... Nigga, Sprite sent me, I think that's an advertisement. Right, I was like, I was at work. You know that when I was working a job, you were at work when it happened. Yeah, I'm at a quit now. You know, once a nigga get a Sprite email, he'd be at a quit. And I did. Nigga Sprite didn't contact me. Drake don't work up here. Right, listen, so I looked at the DM and I was like, okay, this is from Sprite for real to verify the account. So I was like, okay, I stopped what I was doing. I responded and everything. It was like, what email can we send you? Your boss said, put that phone down. You said, nigga, please. All right, look, listen. Go ahead, send me over, whatever y'all want to send over. Let me take a look at it. So I gave him my email. Then they sent over a contract and everything about being a brand ambassador. So I was like, oh, this is dope. And then within doing that, you would be a Sprite artist as well, like an official Sprite creator. That's dope, man. And I was like, what? Looked at everything, because I've been dealing with contracts for plenty of years. And everything, I didn't see anything bad. I had my other guy look at it. I was like, take a look at this, please, let me know if there's any issues. What kind of percentage did they say you was getting off the advertisement or was any of that in there? What was in the firing print? Nah, so of course I can't discuss everything within the contract. Did you see the numbers? Yeah, the numbers were good. The numbers were good. The numbers were fine. No, when you get a contract, the first thing you read is the fine print. The numbers. The first thing I read. Yeah, the fine print. Yeah, so I was trying to make sure, like, okay, once I do this, it's not gonna be anything. Man, why do this? Nah, everything was good. How many years does that contract lock you in? So I know they look for new people very frequently. So it's actually just yearly. It's a one-year contract, right? So when it comes to interviews, red carpet events, excuse me, ads, shows, the whole nine, anything that would help the advancement of my career, they would be providing, you know, and just being there as support. Right. So I was like, okay, cool. So one day, one year, when that year was getting close to being up, they hit me up again. They loved what was going on, what I was doing. The growth? So they wanted to do another year. I was like, absolutely. And then, you know, of course, we hit COVID and all that stuff. And so things had to slow down for that year, but we were still creative, you know, and how we were going about creating content and still, you know, doing my thing. Do you have any say-so in the content they create? So like, when they say, okay, I want you to do this, they say, well, I don't want it this way. I want it this way. Yes, look, they, so I can say this. They say we can talk about this. They pay me for my content or for my songs. Okay. Like, you know, not too long ago, they were like, hey, Clips, we want to run some ads with your song. We'll pay you, you know, for this. Yeah. They ain't black, you know. They ain't black. Black folk be like, hey, Clips, make us a song. We'll talk about it. Right, right. How you doing your song with a little clip? We spray. Yeah. No, facts. Because the only person I can think about, when I think about my Sprite commercial back in the day, then correct me if I'm wrong, maybe it's a different commercial. What you talking about? It's Tyrese. Wasn't he? No, it was Pepsi or something. Was it Pepsi? Yeah, no, not Tyrese. No, you got to be Drake. No, Lil Wayne. Was Lil Wayne? No. No. In the commercial? You talking about like a major campaign? A major commercial? Yeah, commercial, like an artist that's now big. Man, they boy do major commercials, man. That wasn't big before and now he's became big. Oh, before he just blew up. Yeah. Because I remember when Tyrese did that commercial, whatever commercial that was. That was before Internet. That's Coca-Cola, man. Was it? Yeah, that was Coca-Cola. Yeah, I mean, because Sprite is owned by Coca-Cola. Yeah. But I don't know if it was specifically the Sprite. I'm going to Google it. Sprite, yeah. I can just be honest with you, man. When it come down to the fact of you doing a Sprite anything in today's culture with the way social media platforms and everything is so predominant, it's a great accomplishment because you don't know what it can spiral into. No, absolutely. Social media is different now. You can advertise. I know I'm right. Social media can spiral. I am a genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell, man. Once you get them on, just hold them down. Don't let them move. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, right. Don't listen to him, man. Do not listen to him. That's what he told me. There you go. So when you really look at it and you see that you've tapped into something that is really, there is not a great percentage of people who are advertising for Sprite like that. Right, right. This is something that's very special. And I think you should hold it in a place where you give it its essence because you can take it to a whole other level with helping people around you to see that they can achieve something else other than. Absolutely. Being that you, I didn't even know he was on, what, what the talent show? America's Got Talent. America's Got Talent. I didn't know that. Yeah. Like, well, you've been working. Yeah, man. I've been working, man. And he didn't even want to do music in the beginning. At all. I was acting at first. Yeah. But I fell in love with music. When we started doing tongue twisters and I discovered twister and Buster Rhymes. You guys, what you be rapping fast? Yeah. So I do the flipping and all that. How fast can you go? Real fast. Yeah, we got some stuff out there. Give me some. Give me some. Yeah, yeah. Real quick, just something real fast. Give me something real fast. It'll be real short because I'll be charging people sometime. Listen. I'm gonna get it no matter what because I should. So, you know. That's it. That's all I'm gonna give them. That's it. That's it. That's fast. You are twisted. Oh, I'm definitely faster. Listen. Really? Yeah. The key is articulate. And that's the thing. There's a lot of people out here that try to rap fast, but they don't articulate. I can hear you. That's the thing. Yeah, I'm very articulate. I can understand what you're saying. Right. And that's the key. I can't understand twister at all. Can you understand Buster Rhymes? Listen. That to me separates the ones who are really doing it and people just out here just trying to do it and sound like they're doing it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you guys. So, I'm going. I mean, are you doing any music right now? Where are you doing the fast twisted projects? I'm actually working on some right now that I haven't released. The latest that I released where I gave them a little bit of the twist was a record called Talk My Shit. And so Talk My Shit, Knock Knock. Actually, I actually have a few that part. Actually, I have a few last year that I that I dropped where I did that. But as far as the new stuff, I'm about to release that probably in a couple of months because right now I just been kind of focusing on a lot of melodic, you know, hip hop mix with R&B pop stuff. What do you want to say about that? Actually, I'm trying to get him. I'm talking to his manager. I'm trying to get him to do a Get It Wet 2.0 because I actually did a freestyle to his Get It Wet track. And it was like a Sprite Pro. Yeah, he heard it. Give me a little bit of it. Give me something, man. Come on, man. Give me just a little bit of it. Come on, man. Just a little, bro. Nah. Come on, man. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. That is good, though. He can do whatever you want to do that thing. I want to give us what we need. It's just like, you know what I'm saying? They can go get that. They can go get that look. Man, this is dope, bro. Y'all have to hear it. Y'all have to come. You on ball sock one-on-one, baby. Yeah, I know. You got to drop that exclusive, man. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, all right. You know what I'm saying? That's not the Sprite. All day, for real. Look, y'all got to go watch that video, man. I had the Sprite. Bro, that's dope, man. I had the Sprite in the video, my Sprite jacket on and everything. It went viral. He saw it, you know what I'm saying? We spoke through the DMs, but we did a song long time ago. I was like, bro, we were supposed to do a show. We were supposed to do a show together. Was that during, it was there? Yeah, something with the COVID stuff. With all the COVID, something happened, and it didn't come out. I was like, bro, so I hit him up. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? They talking about the show, not going to go on. He was like, yeah, man, you know, I'm feeling better now. Oh yeah, because I hit him up afterwards. He was like, yeah, I'm feeling good. Everything good now. But, you know, he had, you know, got sick or whatever. Right. You know what I'm saying? Well, you hit that, man. You got me excited about that, man. Listen. You're a hell of a rapper, man. Look, we got a record out called, Can You Keep Up? And we put that out long. That'd be a good name to keep up for real. Not for real. People are still like, that record is still going viral. It's still just like at the top. You had the better verse. I mean I killed it. He going to say, you expect him to say, not him? Come on, sir, couldn't handle you? Man, I killed it. Man, listen. I mean, they, we was all keeping up. We was right there, you know what I'm saying? We was all right there. But like, I definitely ate on that track. How long did it take you to learn how to rap that fast? Uh, so people tell you, went to school with me. I rapped every single day going up and down the halls. We just visited my elementary school. One of my teachers was still there. Me and my fiancé, we went up there. And she was like, yeah, I remember, I would walk around, you know, rapping. And it was just a everyday thing. Because the main thing was, I was trying to make sure I was articulate on stage for my theater performances. Right? So people can hear me. And like I said, I discovered the Twisted Bus Rhymes and just started rapping. So I was like, I like this. And it's helping me, you know, with my theater performances on stage. And to be different from everybody else. And it's different. Yeah, it's different. So I would do it every single day, walking up and down the halls. Like I kid you not every day. But it seemed like it's very important for you to be more versatile because you talk about, I do this, but I'm also doing melodic right now, but you might turn around and start doing something else. Right. It seems to be very important for you to be touching all different areas of the music industry. Yeah, absolutely. And why is that so important? Man, that's definitely important because, prime example, COVID hits, right? COVID hit, world shut down. If you making all your money performing, you know, okay, what's next? Where else are you going to have another stream of income when it comes to the music industry? So I really focus on sync and placement. So that's why people hear me on, you know, Hulu, Netflix, movies, shows, commercials. You name it. Sports, clips, whatever. Just because it's like, hey, you want to have just different streams of income within the industry. Getting sync money, you know, show money, whatever. Stream, download money, merge money, whatever, you name it. But the reason why it's so important, because, you know, say you lose one, then, you know, you have some backup, another stream of income, you know, coming in to compensate for it. So, and it's just visibility. Visibility is key. I tell people all the time, you just want to be visible, you know. You want people to see you from everywhere. Dang, I saw him in this commercial. Oh, I heard his song on TV. Oh, he just dropped this, you know, other single. So they like, okay, he's really out here making himself, you know, be known because if you can't get in, you know, one door and you got to figure out how you going to get in through another door, you know, and kind of demand that respect and make them hear you, you know. In this industry, you definitely have to do that. You got to figure it out, how to move and navigate, network, build those relationships and go at different angles because that's just the way you grow your fan base. People just got to keep hearing you from different places. Top three artists of all time did a lot. Any genre. Top three. Number one. I don't have time for excuses. Man, y'all know I got to say me number one. You're number one. I'm number one right now. I got to say that. Because I'm... No, not just that. I'm very commercial. I'm very commercial. There's not many hip-hop artists out here that can do R&B, that can do pop, that can do EDM, that can do all these other things, right? You say R&B, but I ain't heard. What you saying? Man, I got a couple... Give me something, bro. You don't even want to give me no song. Man, I got to say something. You know, you can't say stuff like that. You need auto-tune? Nah, look. I got a couple records out there, bro. Like, I kid you not. You said R&B. Don't do that, man. I know y'all get mad when a nigga mention R. Kelly and all that. You niggas, man. I don't get mad, you know what I'm saying? Look, but now we're recording during R&B. I do use a little auto-tune and I do, of course, mixing and stuff like that. Like, I hate auto-tune, because I was raised where it was true R&B, I call it. Right. A lot of people say they're singing now, but... They had stuff on their music, too. Singing is not... Yeah, some of them did. Man, genuine, I was singing at my pony like that. Niggas rocking like that. Look, some of them did. Yeah, I mean, you know that after going to their shows or after hearing them live. There you go, there's some on that thing. That's what any singer, when it comes to mixing, like, nobody sounds live how they sound when they're recording at all. No, no, no, Jay-Z do. You can forget about that. Jay-Z. Jay-Z sounds exactly like you said. I went to the concert, the niggas sound exactly like that. I ain't never seen them like that in my life. No, I thought you was talking... I was talking about singing while I was... Well, it's the same thing. Jay-Z and singing and singing. Who else sing? I'll give you a singer. Give him a singer, give him a singer. Kim sounds... Kim? Kim. Oh, Kim. Kim sounds just... Okay, now that's... Yeah, that's... That's organic right there, yeah. I can't even not... It's the same. The same. Yeah, no, that's... That can't go, man. That can't go. Listen. He's one of my artists, I love him. No, no, same. You hit him, didn't you? Damn. You hit that boy with some real facts. No, for real, yeah. No, I grew up on that. So, I can definitely hit up, but... Who wants number two? So, I say number two. I gotta go with my boy Twista because... Twista Grace of all time? Yes, his... Wow! Yes, his delivery, his work play... That's our first Twista we've had. Look, his delivery... You man had Twista because of what he did up in Vegas when we seen the niggas. You're not gonna tell a man the truth. What do you do? He didn't want... He's had these big body guards standing, she's trying to get to the niggas. Can I get to the niggas? No, not today. Oh, he was acting like that? Yeah, in the casino, and we know everybody. So, it was like, really? I hate when people do that. He was saying that it was the people around him. It was his body guards, his body guards. He should have said that. He should have said something, yeah. Because, look, I shook Jay-Z Hand in Vegas, walking through a casino like... Exactly. He was like, what? So, yeah. See, I love those type of people who don't give you the care, you know? Right, right. They know what type of business they're in, so they know what fans are gonna approach as long as you're not being disrespectful. Absolutely. That nigga might have one of them GDs looking for him or something. Yeah, but like, man, just his growth from day one to where he's at now, you know what I'm saying? And that's because I've studied him, you know, from the beginning. And his storytelling and everything, when you just really listen, you know, he's dope, he's dope. Number three. So, number three, man, I don't know if I should say number three. Go ahead, go ahead, just give it. New or old, you said? Doesn't matter. And any genre. Number three. Oh, man. That's always the hardest. Yeah. Give it up. I'm gonna have to go, it's between my boy Luda and one. One of them, yeah, we just, big court tried to do that while I go that way. Come on, give it up. You better be listening. I'm out to go with my boy Luda Chris, man. Why that nigga hard? Did you hear the new verse he just did when the little girl did say somebody won from Atlanta? I didn't hear that one. Boy, you gotta go check that out. I'm gonna pull it up. Whoo, he ate it on that thing. He went in on her? Well, not on her. Just he gave her some education. Okay, okay. He let her know, nigga, this is why I'm the best. Yeah. And it was real. When he did it all, to be an old nigga, he made her feel like, respect your elders. Right, right. Now, you can still get it. Yeah, you can still get it. I'm pretty sure she felt that like, damn, that nigga hard. Yeah, no, facts, facts. So, yeah, you picked the right one. Yeah, I love these. That's her first Luda too. Well, you know, Luda Chris, like you said, you thought he retired. Yeah. But he just came out with a banger and he did a song with Beat King too. So he will get busy if he needs to. Yeah, no, he's very versatile. I like his, of course, his delivery. I like how animated he's always been, you know, his character. You know, like how he can actually, when he does a song, depending on what kind of song it is, you can really tap in, he really taps in to that character and make you feel like, okay, like I believe what he just spit out and I believe what he just delivered, you know, at the time he did it. Well, when you think about rapping fast, you got Busybone. Yep. You got Buster Irons. Yep. Tech Nine. Tech Nine. Yeah, shout out Tech Nine. Kansas City, Missouri. What makes these guys not be on the level with Twister? I had to ask that. Buster. I mean, they are Buster. No, no, this is your, you said Twister was your number one, you stuck in, you didn't start to Buster Irons. You were doing it before him, I believe. No, no, no. I'm just saying. Yeah, no, Buster. Yeah, we got Buster on that too. We got a love for Buster, but you know what I'm saying? Top three. He didn't make it. Damn. Yeah, I mean, he right there. Top five. No, he ain't. But like, So did you like that song? Could you look at me now? No, no, no. Every time when I hear that one, Oh, yeah. You could have ripped that known. Man, I should have, because everybody was like, Clip, you got to do your version. You should have did your version. You didn't do it. Come on, man. I was just like, cause that always happened. Like there was another one. Oh, the Eminem. Eminem, you know, That's another great. That's another great. It's so many of them. Top three though. I don't really mention Eminem because Eminem did, you know, I can't do that. Yeah. Everybody say that, but I can't, now they get that boy a lot of credit. I just don't feel like, it's hard. Yeah, Eminem. He didn't come from the same place. And I'll be honest with you with the way, I mean, you say Eminem, sometimes they say he the greatest all time. I look at Lil Wayne. I'll be like, hell no. Yeah. Not Eminem. No. That's just my opinion. Yeah. If somebody else might be like, that stand is the one for me. It's not for me. Yeah. No, he's very talented. Like Eminem is remarkably. He's talented. I mean, he's a talented guy. I'm not going to take nothing from him, but when it comes down to what we doing this culture. Yeah. No facts. Stop playing. No facts. I hear you. I hear you. No come up in there with that. I hear you. Like you just really going to bust up in there with that? Yeah. I hear you. You know, my top three. Man, Scarface Nail, man. You can't put this boy in a booth like this. It gets funky, nigga. We got that funk, man. I already know. You ain't trying to hear. You know, I know. I know. That's so different. I know. I want to know, ladies, what's next in store for you by the end of the. Let's go to the end of the year. Man. So right now working on just going full throttle with my music production company. Right. So I found, you know, a new passion with this whole sync placement, you know, deal, man, cause it's like working with the labels and working with music library companies directly now. It's a blessing, you know, to be able to just have them say, hey, you can submit directly to us. You know, you ain't got to go through all these loose returns and all this, this and that and no gay keepers. So it's a blessing. That's what's next for me. It's like I want to, I want to create, you know, help create opportunities, you know, for other artists who are trying to tap into that space, you know. So I'm working on that. And I've partnered with artists connect app. They're a platform helping artists connect with other creatives. Okay. When it comes to say I go to Atlanta, you know, I go out there and does that app works? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So you can download it right now. Shout out to them. They helped me get my first billboard in Times Square. So shout out to artists connect app. But yeah, it's just dropped in on us like that. Man, man, you know, I got to share this with y'all. You better go and start to put that out there. Like nigga on the first. I ain't seeing no other niggas up there. No. Yeah. And I got Sprite. You got to put it out there. I know. I know. You need not turned up loud. I know. I'm finna turn up. It's time to turn up. It's time to turn up. Listen, I just did a post about that. I was like, I don't know any other independent artist with his fiance. And I think I said online. I said wifey. We waiting on, you know, you know, but yeah. With his wife, you know what I'm saying? You know, a record getting played by the NBA and getting played on TV shows. And this is like out here. Yeah. We have records together that we got placed, you know. I heard her sing a little bit. Oh, but you didn't want to come home. I was talking. Sing your heart out. Oh, now listen. Y'all going to have to do a separate show for her. Look, she's going to kill it. Listen. I want to hear her sing, man. She be singing for real. Oh, yeah? I heard her a little bit when she was over there at home. She ain't ever done Christine Aguilar or anything like that. What? What? Oh, man. Ariana Grande. Ariana Grande ain't over Ariana Grande. I'm going to send you a cover that she did of Ariana Grande. You can flip out. Listen. I'm going to send it to you. I'll be tripping. We definitely going to get her back on the show if she'll come. Yeah, no. Absolutely. I'll have him drive me out here. Yeah, no. We need to do that, man. I wish we'd have had room today. I would have knocked it around. Man, look. We just got a placement with the NBA 2022 playoffs. Right now. They got one of the records as a theme song for the playoff games. It's called Game Time. Game Time, man. Don't play it. It's cool. Look, so we out here getting it. We really out here getting it on different networks. You know what I'm saying? And just like you said, we're about to get loud with it. But you know what I'm saying? We still stay humble. Yeah, stay humble. You got to stay. You got to stay. You getting that quiet money. Yeah. But it's still money. Right. Oh, it's the money. Loud. It's the bills. That money quiet. Got that quiet. Yeah, look. Nigga might have asked for some. Me too. Look, everybody. We just here, but we ain't really. We with Sprite, but Nigga put the Sprite killer down. Look, no, and shout out to Hennessy too, man. Oh, y'all got to Hennessy. Get the Hennessy bottle out of there, man. Get the Hennessy. Shout out to Hennessy. Shout out to Hennessy. Never stop, never settle. You know, we working with them. Really? You know, trying to do some things. Like they always showing love. They always take care of us. Like when we go out, parties, sending bottles, everything. So definitely shout out to them. Why do you guys keep getting all these great ordeals? Man, that's crazy, right? Brand partnership and collaboration is key. I try to tell people and I tell a lot of people in this city who should be at bigger platforms or think they're, you know, bigger than what they are, but they still not doing things right when it comes to brand partnership or even metadata when it comes to uploading and distributing your own music. It's ridiculous out here. But I think also it's how you carry yourself too. That, yeah, yeah. Because image is everything. That's why I say I'm number one because it's like you got half these artists out here and make a complete sentence or a complete thought without saying, yeah, you know what I'm talking about, you know, for real though. That's why I need to do that right now. Yeah. So that's why I'm like nah, I'm definitely on another level. Bro, the difference is, listen, you gotta know how to turn it on and turn it off. Exactly. That too. You have to know your audience. You have to know your audience. Know when to turn it on, turn it off. Know where you are. Be aware of your surroundings at all times. You know what I'm saying? So a lot comes with being an artist and a well-rounded artist and a commercial international art. Like it's a lot. I can go on and on. That's why some people can get not only music deals but being movies and doing everything. You're doing a great job. Exactly. Thank you. I appreciate that, King. I appreciate that. Man, thank you for calling me King because it fit you. Hey, yeah. As you're knowing me, King. Nah, he's gonna be like these other niggas that work. I got a crown hanging over there. Right behind the counter, nigga. I know it. Hey, talk that talk. Talk that talk. Yes, sir. Nah, I just like to have a good time, man. Yes, sir. But I like to let my hair down, you know, on this platform. Let me say that first of all, because a lot of times people don't understand, man, you know, like I didn't incorporate America for many, many years. I know how to deal with that as well. Yeah. I'm definitely one of those guys, right? But then I also like to have a good time. This is my playing ground right here, you know. So I do what I want to do here. But, you know, I know how to turn on and turn it off, man. That's key, so. Absolutely. Keep doing what you're doing, man. Absolutely. Thank you. Did we forget anything? You wanted to touch a little bit about the gatekeepers. Oh, man. There we go. Let's finish it with that, man. The gatekeeper list. Let's talk about it for a second. So you've seen the list. I had the list. I had Big D the mogul on here. What did you think about the list? And did you feel like the list was right or wrong? Well, I'm not really big on gatekeepers, right? You know, I understand what a gatekeeper is, you know, open doors for people, you know, opportunities, that and that. But, you know, I just take a look. All I can go off of is experience. Okay. And when I look at my track record, I haven't had any of those gatekeepers open up any doors or do anything for me. I've actually had some of those gatekeepers reach out to me for help, right? And so that's why I'm like, oh, this is interesting. So, you know, I just look at it. Well, I've seen the list and the ones from Dallas. I don't know if it was from Dallas. And then reach out to it. I mean, you're a gatekeeper. But I don't even write. So I'm just like, okay, well, I'm not on that list, but okay, whatever. Like, I'm not really, you know, into that sort of thing. But, yeah, it's interesting. A lot of that has happened, you know, where people are. But it depends on the type of help. If they're just calling you for information, as in like, who is good, who is not, who is this, that, that, that, then, you know, that's just. No, it's not information. It's services. Oh, okay. It's opportunities. Okay. You know, and then opening doors for, you know. What I was saying is, man, you know, I like the list because it puts eyes on the city and the way to where it makes people talk like you're talking now. So, I think the list is something that. Yeah, that's what it does. Yeah, so I think the list is needed. It's just a person's opinion, guys. Let's start playing. Exactly. And the guy who's doing it, shout out to that guy here, man, Terry Blue. I like the fact that I talked to these guys, man. And they're just doing things to keep, you know, the city. Something, y'all. If they don't say nothing, here we go again, quietly making the money. Yeah, that's what you want. Turn it down, y'all. We don't want to make no noise. Look, I ask for something. Look, I give the sauce away all the time. I give the sauce away. There's plenty of artists out there. I do consultations all the time. I give them the sauce. I've shared my PDF files with people out there showing them how to run ads or how I do it to put yourself out there because as an independent artist, I'm showing people that you don't really need a gatekeeper or someone to give you an opportunity. You just need the tools to do it yourself. And they don't have that knowledge. They don't know. They don't have the tools. And that's what I provide. You're different. Right. Some of these people need that gatekeeper. I've seen some of those people that's on these lists. Yeah. And some of those people on those higher tiers are needed to present opportunity to people who don't have the tools that you have to do what you do. You're just gifted. So you got to be careful because you can't put other people to be who you are because they're not. They're not on the level to do. But they could be. They could. And that's the thing I like to bring out of people. They don't choose to be. What about the guy who wants to be on the label? And that's the thing. A gatekeeper, if you don't choose to be a gatekeeper, can't change that. If it's not in you and you're not passionate and hungry enough to take action, then a gatekeeper doesn't matter. Yeah, but he can get a couple of projects out of you and make some money with you and then let you go. Sometime your passion might not be that much. You get you a couple of projects. You might hit a big banger within. You could be like a... That's right. You have some one hit wonders. Now walk it out. Now walk it out. Now walk it out. You know what you remember? Right. Hit the dance floor. Yeah. That was the only... You could do one and get one and done. I mean, that's cool. Yeah, that's cool. But that ain't you. Yeah, yeah. So it's hard for you to relate to that. It's hard. So you're like, damn, you don't need a gatekeeper. But yeah, well, you do. If you're that guy who don't... And that's your thing. Yeah, that's what you... So it's just different stroke for different folks, right? Yeah. But I do understand that that gatekeeper lives... Yeah, there's a couple of people on there that people had issues with the fact that they made that list. Big D. Amen. Here it is, man. Do your thing. Yeah, I mean... It is what it is. I mean... We still gonna keep working and pushing. Thank you for coming on Boss Talk 101. Absolutely. What a Boss is talk, man. We love you, brother. Thank you all for having me. I can be with you the whole day if they're trying to reach out for... Or do a collab or... Do a collab. Yeah. Oh, man. Find the same thing. Hey, you already know what it is. It's your boy Eclipse Darkness, man. Y'all make sure y'all follow me on IG. The official Eclipse. Y'all trying to tap in. Just hit me in the DMs. That's all it is. I'll check it out. I'll get to it. Give me some time. I'm busy. I got a lot going on. But I'll get with you and we can work it out. Well, you sound like a pop artist, nigga. You pop too. Oh, I like that. You look a pop. That's a pop artist. Yeah. Who would you like to work with? Oh, man. Yeah, definitely Justin Bieber. I hear that. Shout out to my boy Tory Lanez, man. That dude's so talented. Have you met him? Not yet, but it's coming. We're definitely going to manifest that. We've been speaking that. So that's definitely coming. We'd love to do a record with him. There's a lot of artists out here, man, that I would love to do a record with. It's so many, so many. Especially in a pop lane. Yeah. Shout out to my boy Stanley Enow in Africa. Man, him did a record. We're trying to get some more done. DeVito, because we often to the Afro beat dance hall world. Yeah. So we love those. You niggas dancing over there too. Man, listen. There's a little boy dancing over there right now. Get that little boy. You talking about the ghetto? Get that niggas dancing. Oh my God. That's like crazy. We trying to get them right now. In our single, we just dropped called Do For Me. So y'all go check that out. It's on all platforms right now. Me and Katarina Adiaga, Do For Me. Y'all check that out. Spotify, iTunes. And we in conversation with them right now. That's dope. If we can close that deal, then I'm going to send that to you. Man. And I'm going to show them. And we going to get them on the show. You don't speak no English. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to boy man. Hey man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. And we out.