 The Nigerian army comes under attack, not from terrorists or bandits, but from the economists. The publication describing the army as being mighty on paper but being filled with ghosts who only exist on the payroll. But both of course the army and the presidency have hit back, but we have in that conversation this morning. Also coming up is a discussion about the state of Nigeria, the threat of terrorism and kidnappings in the North. Aipop in the South is governance in Abuja. They are a number of state governorship elections and the 2023 general election. And in our top trending today, Liverpool humiliates Manchester United five Neil at home. Thanks to Patrick from Mohammed Salah. Of course the viral post describes the ghost being roast at Osala. Good morning, thanks for joining us on the breakfast here on PLOS TV Africa. Welcome to a brand new Monday morning. I am Osal Gye, a born. And I am Messi Boko. It's good to have you join us this morning. So what are the things with television is, you know, the, you know, there's production, there is anchors, there's, you know, you know, a background on the conversations that you're meant to have. But one of the challenges is not every conversation that, you know, you necessarily want to have. Like the fact that, you know, I have to read the script this morning saying Manchester United got humiliated and a goat was used for Salah. I'm not necessarily excited about having these conversations. Why is that? Is there any particular reason? If you want to fight, let the cameras go first. Good morning anyway. Let's get into our top trending stories this morning before we get to the last one that I hope that we don't have time for. The IPOB, of course, in the southeast has this declared six-day seat at home. It starts from the 5th to the 10th of November. And of course they have stated this, you know, and they said, if the government doesn't release their leader Nnamdi Kanu by the 5th, then of course there would be a seat at home across the southeast for those six days. And remember also that the Anambra State Governorship elections are meant to be coming up on the 6th of November. And so that's why of course it is generating huge conversations across the southeast and across the whole country. Numerous times I've spoken about this and I said, you know, I'm sure that they know that the seat at home has no effect on, you know, the president or Nigeria releasing Nnamdi Kanu has zero effect whatsoever. So I'm not sure why they still do it, you know, and I've always continuously said that I feel like these things are done because they enjoy the, you know, the euphoria of the power that being, you know, they seem to have when they say everyone should sit at home and people actually do. And so it's sweet for them. And you know, every, you know, four market days, every time that the weather is too hot, you know, they say, in fact, let's have a seat at home. Someone burns rice or the student come out too good, sit at home in the southeast. Whatever reason that they can imagine there is a seat at home. And so yes, there's going to be another one according to them. And I'm not sure how the southeasterners will take it this time, because I'm not sure if, you know, there's, I've always said that there would be a breaking point. There will be a point where people would say enough is enough and we're done with this seat at home. We're no longer going to be complying with this. I expected it to happen sometime ago, but it still hasn't happened. I'm thinking that maybe this would be it, because I know that the whole southeast will not stay indoors for six days for any reason, while business needs to go on, while money needs to be made, while mouths need to be fed. Well, if you look at it over time, you would also see that there's some level of compliance and the level of compliance would be, you know, it can be burdened on the fact that people are just scared, you know, because over time, those who have not really complied have actually had their goods, you know, properties destroyed and some persons have lost their lives in the course of all of this. So the level of compliance usually it's as a result of, you know, fear for their lives and all of that. Now, I'm quite worried because I really don't know whatever happens in Anambra come the sixth would be a reflection of what would happen in 2023. And so it's really, really worrisome. At the end of the day, yes, it's okay to say you're agitated. It's okay to feel disgruntled. It's okay to say you have been marginalized. But, you know, the mode of operation now you're going about trying to get it's like in a family, you don't feel really good about how mom or dad is treating you. How do you go about trying to communicate to yourself? I mean, tell your thoughts across, you know, so that's the problem because we've also seen a situation where students were supposed to write the examinations. They couldn't really write it. And also we also have reports that the governor of Anambra State, Obiano, is also has made plans that students should be attending lectures on Saturday. I found really shameful. Very, very. And the question now would be should state actors, you know, bow, I mean, should, you know, state government bow to non-state actors because it's already sending the signal if you're already saying, oh, because you can't go to school on a Monday, why don't you have lectures on a Saturday? So that's already a body language saying that maybe the governor is the government is already tilting towards all that's going on. The body language has been on for a long time, you know, seeing that every Monday the south is shut down and this has been going on for months now. And if not being able to do anything about it or fix it. And so it's not just now. I'm just finding it really shameful that the whole governor, you know, will get to a place where he can't even control the people in his state. He can't even tell the people in the state that they are safe if they come out on Mondays. He can't even assure the people of his state that he is in control. You are governor of your state and you're obviously now saying that, okay, I'm no longer in control. Let's leave Monday for the IPOB. You guys should come out to school on Saturdays. It's very, very shameful. And this is the thing that the IPOB has been pointing out. The failure, complete failure of leadership in the southeast with the political leadership, traditional leadership, social cultural leadership, whatever it is, complete failure of leadership across the southeastern states to the extent that they've now filled in that void and they can decide that, okay, well, you know, any other day that we feel like everyone should stay at home, do stay at home. And yes, like you said, it will tell, paint a big picture about what the number of elections would be and of course 2023. And also, I'm not sure who exactly is talking to a more powerful or any of these IPOB spokesperson. So that's where my concern is, because I have been doing a lot of thinking. Why are we not having conversations? Are these persons not approachable? Do they not have a face? Why don't we come to the table? Why don't we come to a point where we sit on the other side of the table and talk about all of these things? What's really going on? Because at the end of the day, you have, you know, people to represent and you want to tell me that, I mean, look at all of the shutdowns every other time. It would affect, you know, the economic activity of the state. It's not a good thing. I don't think they care that much. I don't think the IPOB cares that much about those. Because with all of the sit down, the question with all of the sit at home others, no one is saying you should not protest. No one is saying you should not agitate. But the question is, how much result have you gotten? What do you intend to achieve? And this is a very, very clear picture of the thing that you being, you know, you becoming the thing that you've criticized for a long time, criticizing tyranny for somehow, you know, somehow somewhere, and then eventually you yourself becoming a tyrant, because you are now, of course, forcing your people and the people that you you claimed, you know, to want to say, want to get them out of the Nigeria that has not treated them fairly. You are now punishing those same people and becoming a tyrant to those same people. And that's exactly what is playing out, you know, by ruining their businesses every Monday and also by, of course, punishing those who you don't know. They say that's the ultimate price they have to pay. It's crazy. We'll see how this plays out. I'm looking forward to seeing this, you know, what the next, all those six days look like from the fifth to the tenth or eleventh of November. And I hope, you know, that this might be that breaking point that I've been looking for for the Southeast. And as moving away from the Southeast, let's come to Lagos. I think we have some clips that we'll play or share with you. And then we get into this discussion. This happened in, oh, I believe here in Lagos. If we have those clips, let's have them on screen. Very stereotypical Nigerian police response when, you know, situation seems to be overwhelming them, you know, they start saying, you came in, you're our leader, calm down now, please now, relax. It's embarrassing. We've had conversations about the Ansar's protests and what it hoped to achieve. For some people, it was the end of the special anti-rubbery squad for others. And the bigger picture really was a complete reform of the Nigerian policing system and the Nigerian police itself. But one year later, if we're still seeing these things, and what you're seeing there really is comedian Mr. Macaroni confronting and challenging some policemen who, if you see the boy on the T-shirt, you know, claimed that he had just transferred 30,000 Naira to this same policeman who stopped him, you know, in traffic here in Lagos. And that's exactly what the Nigerian youth were complaining about, you know, during the Ansar's protest. One year later, absolutely nothing has changed. You still see policemen, and I've said this many, many times here, that you still see policemen, that they don't look for criminals on Monday or Tuesday or Wednesday. They wait till Thursday night or Friday night when they know that a lot of people are going to be out having fun. That's when they remember that criminals would be up. Criminals don't move on Mondays. But this is the same attitude from this same very, very disgusting set of policemen who do these same things and look out for people to pray on and hope that they can make some money of them. So the truth is, we're still going in circles. I mean, it feels like we're still seeing the same thing over and over again. Obviously, it's very obvious that nothing has really changed. Yes. And that's why we still find that extortion, what's still going on. Okay. But the question is, for how long will this continue? I must commend, you know, Mr. Macaroni for his bravery. He's a brave man. And we would always say that evil will continue to thrive when, you know, thrive when evil good men keep quiet or silent. So this is what we need, because it's really tiring. I mean, every day we keep seeing the same thing over and over, different angles, we keep going through the same circle, you know, so it becomes a vicious cycle. But what do we do? So let's assume that at every point, because that's good, it doesn't matter whether whether or not there was any result at the end of the day, whether or not anything happened. But you see that particular action that attitude by Mr. Macaroni. That's what we need. So imagine that every Nigerian, you know, we're out there and you see something wrong, that's not good, we're able to confront it. That's how we're going to get the change. Yeah. And I totally agree. What he has done is what I have consistently, consciously wish that Nigerians will do. When you see something going wrong, don't just drive past, you know, and act like it's not your business. You should get involved. You should be able to say, you know, we do not want to see this type of things going on in our society anymore. And so yes, he would, he did it, you know, and I'm hoping, you know, that this being on camera and these videos being released should get Nigerians to get involved generally and always step out when they see these type of situations, when they see, you know, people being harassed by these corrupt police officers for absolutely no reason, profiling young Nigerians for absolutely no reason and looking to have the different categories, you have the last smile and all of that. All of them. You know, and the EFCCL who are also, and also now the, you know, neighborhood you guys who I complained about last week, who have decided to join in this same mess, everyone should get involved, you know, with these things, you know, and ensure that these things stop. And, you know, I'm saying this really, and I'm reflecting back on last year when the protest was going on. And I hear Legosh and say, oh, you know, you're stressing us, oh, you're blocking our door gate, we're trying to get to work. That is a very, very disgusting attitude because these things that these people came out for is not just for them, it is because they needed to see a better policing system in the whole country. And if in the comfort of your little small bends, and your little, you know, 300,000 Naira salary at the end of the month, you feel like it doesn't concern you, you're not interested, you want to quickly go to work with your suit and your fine shirt, and you don't want to be stressed. As long as it doesn't, you know, consent. Exactly. And it's a very, very terrible attitude that some Nigerians have. As long as it's not affecting you directly, you throw your face the other way, you don't get, you don't bother to get yourself involved with it. So, you know, what he did is what I expect at every Niger and should be able to do when they see something going wrong in every single, you know, ramification. We, of course, would hope that we can get some, you know, information as to how that ended. If, you know, the young man was refunded, his 30,000 Naira, and how, you know, that case ended. But look at this, you know, a policeman with a phone clown. I'm not sure what he was filming. Is he going to post it on his own? I really don't know. Facebook page? You know, when we saw that video, when I saw that video particularly, I was also concerned, like, why is he recording? People are so daft. All right. So, I was hoping that we could, you know, waste enough time and not get to talk about the last trend and story. But yesterday was very, very reflective of some time ago when, you know, Bayern Munich humiliated Barcelona. It goes to two that led to a complete refurbishment of the Barcelona Football Club. Well, you know, it seems like they're back to where they were before currently, though. But Liverpool yesterday completely embarrassed Manchester United at home at Old Trafford. Five goals to nil. Cristiano Ronaldo finally was able to score one goal sometime during the game, which was eventually cancelled. Manchester United have four yellow cards for, you know, some of the, you know, I think Bruno Fernandez, Paul Pogba had a red card, Cristiano Ronaldo had a yellow card, Erdogan Bissac I believe also had a yellow card. It was just a complete embarrassment of what Manchester United should be in any way that you can describe the club. And Liverpool definitely came and served that breakfast hot and steamy with extra sausages. I'm not sure, you know, and yesterday Manchester United found, but yes, to be honest, I'm at a point where I'm completely numb. If the game ended 11 nil yesterday, if it ended 25 nil yesterday, I wouldn't have felt anything. So I'm beginning to think that this is a point where, you know, my United fans should begin to act like us now. You don't need to. No, no, no, no. I don't think you'll ever get there. You know, I think you just need to watch the game. But really what happened? I know that some persons had complained about, you know, the poor performance. Although, yes, he probably would have turned out some good way. He got improved during the Atalanta game. Some people complained about, you know, the start of the lineup. And one would think that it was the same reputation, same thing happened again with the Liverpool game. I mean, Liverpool and Manchester United. So usually, if you have an experience, I mean, it's always good to reflect, go back to the drawing board. What did you do wrongly? What happened that was not correct and see how to correct it? But we still saw the same mistake, you know, that was done. So basically, you would see that, you know, poor structure, running and all of that. I mean, as much as I'm a Liverpool fan, he was really, really amazing under, very, very sad. He needs to go, first of all, and he needs to be arrested right after getting a circulator. He needs to be taken to a party, or was that police called, and kept there for at least 12 days. That's how I feel. Besides the fact that I'm completely numb now. And the reason I'm numb is mostly because I've been saying this for a long time. And my friends know that I've been saying this. The Manchester United is not playing, they're not playing like champions. Cristiano Ronaldo's presence or not, they're still not playing like champions. But one thing that, you know, with the presence of, you know, Cristiano Ronaldo, it's not enough. I saw at some point that he was becoming very aggressive. He always does like that. You know, he ends up looking like a bully. But this is why, when he played at Juventus, you know, people would argue that, you know, he basically was championing every single victory, or most of the victories that they had, he won, you know, trophies, you know, because of his presence, you know, and the things that he was able to do. But you would also admit that it also is centered around the attitude of the players in Juventus at that time. Same thing with Real Madrid. Same thing. And of course, bigger coach, you know, the players had a different attitude. They were warriors, they wanted to win. And Cristiano Ronaldo would always, you know, be the one champion in that spirit in the team. But look at the team in Manchester United. They are not even, Maguire, Fred, McTomey, all of them, they're not even playing that like they care if they win or not. And that same attitude is what they've carried. Every single game that we've won this season has been, you know, Sherlock. It has been somehow, some way, you know, where two goes down or one goes down, somehow, some way, comeback games. But you see, at the end of the day, it's a combination of what the coach does and, you know, you know, the players, because typical, you would see the Chelsea team right now, the performance that they're putting up, and then you ask yourself the same players what actually changed. At the end of the day, you talk about the coach. The difference is the coach. The soldier had not won any cup, you know, since he left Manchester United. The coach hasn't won anything. I'm not even sure why they considered him the first time. I'm sure you guys will have a great outing some of the time. Oh, I'm sure we wouldn't. And I hope, you know, and this is, you know, it might be, you know, a sad thing to say, but I would, I looked through the comments at Manchester United Instagram page and 95% of people said that we're saying the same thing. Oh, layout. He needs to go. He doesn't in any way give the players what they need or give the team what it needs to be a trophy win inside. They're simply just playing football. I'm hoping that somehow, some way they get to scramble in a goal. Look at their gameplay. It's boring. It's, there's nothing there. And then to think that you're playing with a team like, you know, Liverpool, you should do better. We're going to be able to beat Canopyla's comfortably. That's enough. I'm being honest with you. That's, that's, that's the way that Manchester United is currently playing. We would not beat Inigo Rangers comfortably. We will maybe, maybe be able to get a 2-1 victory over Inigo Rangers or Canopyla's the way that we are playing. And maybe we'll be run out of that was called the winning goal in 90th minute and then we would celebrate for, you know, a couple of days. But it's, it's very, very sad. What I hope right now, and Conte is free. Zidane is free. If they don't take advantage of this now and they continue to use Zoligana's social, we will end up finishing 13th or 14th this season. And Manchester United may not even get into Europe next season. And then Pogba will leave and then Ronaldo will leave and Ronaldo would not leave any time soon. Anyway, we need to go. Thanks a lot for starting up our Monday with us. We'll take a short break. When we come back, we're getting into off the press. The major story is making headlines across Nigeria this morning. We'll be sharing with you with our guest, Femi Larson.