 Alright, it says we're live welcome to recovery Monday episode four today. We're gonna talk about all the anxiety cures and Why the fact that they didn't work for you is not a reflection on you. It doesn't mean you're broken, okay? So that's we're gonna talk about today. I apologize for the technical snafus I know that it has been a little bit. They're not a reflection on you guys today. I got to get out of YouTube here Restream kind of blew up on me didn't really work out So I had to restart the stream a couple of times anyway We are here for however many of you brave souls who managed to hang in there on our watching this stream live Thank you. I really appreciate that. Let me just answer restream. No, we're good. Sorry Okay, and then we're gonna get into this so we are talking about all the cures, right? So here we are I have 2029 of you managed to find your way in thank you very much. I see folks from Facebook and from YouTube So there you go essentially this is Lesson 1.4 from this book the anxious truth everything we talk about on recovery Monday is Essentially a lesson right out of this book So I will put that up on the screen in a bit if you don't have it and you want to check it out You can go get it So let's talk about all the cures and I posted about this on Instagram this morning And I got a bunch of people who kind of responded with all the different things that they have tried We can run through those for sure, but here's the most important part today Here's the thing that I really really want to impress upon you If you are in a situation where you have tried like a hundred different anxiety cures because I know how many there are out there, right? So I know how many there are and if you've tried a ton of them and they haven't worked for you That doesn't mean that you are somehow specially broken or you're worse or you can't be helped or you can't get better Generally speaking the things that you have tried if you're in the long list of vitamin supplements herbs crystals bracelets chanting mantras like everybody was was giving me all their tapping came up a lot if you've done all of that stuff and More and you feel free to put it in the comments here and I'll check them out as we're going in fact I'm gonna put them up on the screen so you guys can see what each other is saying that's always helpful But if you've tried all of those things and they didn't work kombucha says Melissa If you've tried all of those things and they didn't work for you or they didn't work for you consistently I totally understand that and it would lead us to believe that we are broken and that oh my god Nothing works. I don't know what to do But the fact of the matter is those things were never going to work like it's really Important to understand that those things were never going to work if we start from the premise that this is a I'm sorry Restream keeps coming in on the chat here, and I don't need them to be in on the chat and my watch is like every technology is against me today No, I do not need that stop restream. Please stop They keep popping in on me on tech support chat So the fact of the matter is none of those things were going to work because if we start from the premise that this is Not a body problem, right? You feel anxiety in your body, but it is not a body problem So episode number one of my podcast all the way back in 2014 was anxiety is physical anxiety disorders are cognitive So all of those things that were meant to target the symptoms directly by trying to change your body And how it works we're never going to work for you And then even the things that were not necessarily body centric But we're designed to distract you or look at this problem as some sort of spiritual problem or negative thinking problem Or mindset problem or happiness problem. Those were misguided also those were also never going to work. All right, they were never going to work So it's important to understand that I'm not saying that everybody that offered those cures is just trying to scam you or take your money That would be wrong like that's not true. There are people who generally are trying to help you out there Some percentage of the people Probably know full well that they should not be trying to sell you those cures and fixes But they do it anyway, but the other folks I'm guessing I will give them the benefit of the doubt They just didn't really know what direction to point in and they think that they're giving you something that will help I mean hell I saw a therapist on Instagram over the weekend that did a very happy smiley dancing reel about the things you should do for Panic attacks went out have public transportation maps phone a friend turn on find my iPhone So your friends can find you tell them that you're worried about having everything you wouldn't do Is you trying to like stop it and make it stop from it? So with the best of intentions is just a lot of misguided advice out there that is not a reflection on you All right, it doesn't mean that it wasn't going to that that you're broken in some way So let's see I'm gonna put this up on the screen because I cannot I'm gonna call it out His name is Charles Linden and I understand beware of anybody anybody That tells you that only my method my method works That's just not in any way, okay And I know that there are a lot of people out there that are likely to do that and that's not okay So whenever you come across somebody who is offering your cure that claims that their special cure them personally is the only thing that works No, no no deal on that you can't you can't that's not okay So anybody who talks about the stuff that I talk about or the folks you find me collaborating with very frequently Will tell you that this has nothing to do with me personally. This is not the drew method only I know how to fix you That's not it at all. So be careful about that so Let's talk about some of the more common like sort of cures that are Can be useful things or it can be part of our toolkit But are often people look at it and say well, I tried this and it didn't work Some of those are breathing some of those are meditation Focus progressive muscle relaxation CBT T cognitive behavioral therapy not the cannabis oil So there are some people who will say well, I tried those things and they didn't work also Right and in the end the issue with some of those things is that they are useful tools in every Recovery toolkit and you hear me talking about these things all the time, but those are not cures so nobody should ever tell you that meditation or breathing or progressive muscle relaxation or Any of those things are somehow fixes those are not cures They're just part of things that we can learn to do to help us build this new reaction to and relationship With our anxiety, which is what this is all about. So those sort of things where people Kind of get led astray and they they're told that like oh Grounding breathing that's what you do for panic or you know digging your feet into the ground or saying particular things Or trying to flip negative thoughts and the positive thoughts those things are not Fixes right so if you've done gone down that road and you thought that they were going to make it all stop Then that would also account for why you thought they didn't work for you Anything that you go into in terms of an anxiety cure that you think is going to just make it all stop and magically go away Is going to wind up being very disappointing right and you'll feel like oh that it didn't work It didn't work and one of the things that makes people think that cognitive behavioral therapy doesn't work is that expectation, right? I'm not going to say that it works for a hundred percent of the people that would be disingenuous It does work for most people a very large percentage of people do have success But the expectation is what really matters So people who wind up going through cognitive behavioral therapy and see that as a cure or a fix often get really Disappointed because well the therapist is going to make them do hard things or it doesn't make them feel better Instantly so they will say it didn't work right So that's kind of the whole deal with anxiety cures I mean we could spend an hour just going through all the crazy cures the bracelets and I mean there's some stuff That's way out there essential oils. Everybody was talking about essential oils, right now look If you like vitamins and you like supplements because you just like to try to be healthy There's nothing wrong with that by all means take your vitamins Take your herbs each year each the food you think makes you healthier. There's nothing wrong with that at all Exercise is great. All of those things are great taking care of your spiritual health all good stuff, right? All good stuff Just not anxiety cures. So it's so important to understand like I eat. I eat well. I'm doing this. I'm gluten free I'm I'm sugar-free. I'm this free. No caffeine, but yet I can't make it go away Well, those are all really good healthy things to do and I would encourage everybody to try and be as healthy as you Can be just don't see those things as cures because you'll wind up frustrated and my heart goes out to you If you wind up in these places and think that somehow or other you're you're broken because stuff isn't working for you, right? That's that's tough So let's see let's scroll a little bit and talk answer some questions in the comments Let's see I'm gonna scroll up a little bit because I know that you guys have been commenting furiously big turnout for like such a really Technological trainwreck today. So again, I'm sorry for starting so damn late. Let's see. What do we have? I Don't have any particular trigger blah blah blah I'm just scrolling back to the very beginning here Bethany is here with popcorn I know I tend I said sometimes these things tend to be entertaining because I do I go hard after some of those Way out there cures and I'll tell you that I myself as my you know, like my social media footprint has grown on The weekly at this point I get at least two or three companies that have things like bracelets and crystals that want me to become brand ambassadors So they are out there. They are way out there Let's put some of them out there because I know you guys want to see these right Kombucha kombucha is a kombucha kombucha kombucha is a bio beverage If you dig kombucha then more power to you with you, but oh my goodness like if you can drink that stuff Then you are a badass because it is nasty Acupuncture look some people swear by acupuncture. They think it makes them feel better And that's great if acupuncture makes you feel better than that's that's awesome. Do it. It's just not an anxiety cure Sarah saying that meditation was was held up as a cure and while I am a huge Proponent of meditation. I would never say that it is a anxiety cure. Okay Let's throw this up here. I've just had the wrong kombucha says Bethany I have to consult with kombucha girl like my one of my favorite means Breathing techniques make me hyper aware of my breath and makes me worth I do understand that's a big issue for a lot of people and if that is an issue then you can actually You know look at different things to focus on we use the breath Strictly as a focus training tool, but on insight timer if you guys If you guys follow me over an insight timer I also did a visual focus and a sensory a touch focus Meditation over there because we're just we're just focused training. We're attention training. That's all we're doing here This is a big one to Tapping I just don't know what that can do. I Me either I'm not a big tapping fan tapping tends to be a distraction Someone at Instagram made the best comment ever and she suffers with OCD and she said she was told she was given tapping EFT therapy for her OCD and that just turned out for her to be a fancy compulsion And I understand that some people get into tapping and they feel if it does become a compulsive safety behavior tapping like oh my god I'm gonna panic. I have to start tapping or I'm okay as long as I could tap on my cheekbone And that's not necessarily helpful, right? So oh my god Yes, this has to go up on the screen my friend the freaking medical medium that crackpot and his celery juice Everything is about celery juice for him. So I totally get that right Let's see. I'm gonna try and scroll through things quickly celery juice One group charges three thousand dollars isn't that a lot that seems like a lot for three thousand dollars You could get a lot of sessions with a qualified therapist just saying like that is that is a long time worth of therapy So, you know, and I said it before in the in the in the group in the chat here Like anybody that claims that they have a special cure that nobody else knows about and wants to charge you a lot of money for It's really rough. Okay. Here's one Emily tried folic acid. I've heard that one, too So it's just a folic acid problem for sure. I have heard it's a gut health problem. I have heard the We need for more fermented foods. We'll fix it. Yeah. Oh My goodness, let's have put let's put this up on the screen. You guys are now you're entertaining me I'm just enjoying these. I was told I was possessed. I'm reasonably certain that you're not just saying Yeah, okay, so let's see here. All the cures seem really hokey Try it acupuncture. Again, if you like acupuncture, that's totally cool. Nothing wrong with that So let's see a part says this is good this is what I was saying before I'm just kind of kind of go through these tried a lot of things tapping meditation yoga A lot of people talked about yoga yoga is great, too Like I'm a yoga fan. I'm not good at yoga because I really need to work on my flexibility But if you like yoga, then there's nothing wrong with doing yoga again, just don't think of it as a cure That's the big issue, right? So let's see scrolling scrolling scrolling. Oh, this is a big one to Lauren magnesium. So There was an article I don't remember what journal it was in and it goes back quite a few years now and that the article was called the miracle of magnesium and the miracle of magnesium that one article sparked a whole revolution in sort of like mental health where Magnesium became sort of a cure for anxiety Here's the big issue in the end with magnesium magnesium is fine. I mean, we all need magnesium. It's an essential mineral We have to have it people learn the hard way that magnesium is also laxative so they will buy like natural calm and all that stuff and they will They will load up on that and then kind of be tethered to the bathroom So if you try magnesium and you wind up stuck at home because you got to keep running to the bathroom every 10 minutes That's okay. You didn't do anything wrong. That's just that's just what magnesium does So let's see Viola's talking about combining all of these things very good. Absolutely Oh fish oil is another one by the way Another big thing that's pushed is fish oil again. If you want to take fish oil, there's nothing wrong with that There's a lot of evidence that it is good for your health. There's nothing wrong with that But the fish oil thing comes from certain studies that say that Populations where their diet is high in those oils have a lower incidence of mood disorders and therefore it became Oh, you have to do you take fish oil for mental health problems, right? So that's a tough one deep breathing I know that that's people talk about deep breathing all the time again not deep breathing We don't want to do deep. It doesn't have to be deep super important I'll put that up on the screen one anxiety cure that's held up all the time is deep breathing and Sometimes for people like us deep breathing can quickly become accidental hyperventilation So the whole idea that you're supposed to breathe deeply now is tough breathe slowly is probably more accurate And in that situation you're really doing that It's just sort of prevent the hyperventilation and as a focus training tool and a way to slow things down While you move through the peak of the fear through always through, right? So I hate to say this but all of this stuff that we're talking about really leads to moving through The the peak of the fear. That's what this is all about So let's see here. I'm gonna keep scrolling keep scrolling till I catch up The lateness made it seem more a luring says Bethany seriously because I made you wait So it you know what there might be something to that there might be something to that I'll make you wait on the next ones too just to it seems more important if you have to wait for it And thanks to to restream. They did sort enough for but it was a little bit annoying. Let's see Anxiety cures anxiety. Oh, this is good. This is actually really good not anxiety cures anxiety comforts That is a good point Nikki Thank you for saying that because in a lot of instances some of the stuff that you see offered out there Whether it's free or whether it is for sale in some way shape or form is really more about comforting and soothing Then actually changing your relationship with your anxiety and working on your reaction skills and your tolerance skills your willful tolerances I know Josh Fletcher is fond of saying and Dean Stott in their book They said willful tolerance Claire week says floating we talk about surrender like a lot of the things are not really geared to the stuff We talk about they're just trying to soothe you and look everybody likes to soothed everybody likes to be soothed I understand that it's kind of a basic drive humanity We want to be comforted and soothe and feel good, but soothing is not necessarily the path to you know to recovery Unfortunately, I'm gonna try and scroll down to the bottom here. So we don't get too far out of hand here I wouldn't do what I call a cure Samuel says understand my body. Okay. This is cool. Let's see is a good comment here put it up on the screen I wouldn't call what I do a cure but understanding my Gad and PTSD helps me understand my body and mind capable of very good Like that's part of you know learning and understanding how this all works very important very important I'm getting a kick out of this. Can we trade snacks? Somebody wants to trade cake for something else. You guys are killing me here. Very good I tried meditation on a popular meditation app. Okay Oh, this is good This is really good. Thank you for posting this too So here's one of those times when meditation which can be a useful tool as part of the process of recovery focus training attention training focus training attention training gets held up as As a cure or a fix in the wrong direction Pay attention to every single thought that was a disaster. Yes That is true for people in our situation if a meditation teacher is teaching you to focus on the thoughts and pay attention to them That's going to cause a problem. It's definitely going to cause a problem. So i'm very sorry that you went through that That's not cool. Um, really not cool really not cool. Um, oh god This is another one. I'll put them up on the screen just because Just because I hate this stuff 5k for that guy for sean kasam Let me tell you a quick story because I have a well we're we're you know 90-something people So i'll talk about that guy. He literally literally posted a ad on a job seeking or head hunting site looking for uh seasoned aggressive sales closers to sell high ticket packages That's the $5,000 package and he told those aggressive sales people that they would be handed hot leads That are cultivated with cutting edge marketing So for that particular anxiety coach, uh, you are not somebody who necessarily needs help I mean you are i'm not saying you're not but to him you are absolutely a cultivated lead Using cutting edge marketing tactics i.e drone footage and him with his arms stretched out in time square To attract you gets you excited and then put you on the phone with a sales person That's flat out true. He asked for the sales people who will try to sell you a big ticket package Not okay. Not in any way. Okay. Like no therapist would do that. That's not okay So let's see here. Um, trying so i'm gonna just try and scroll down to the bottom here. Oh my god. This is so good. Bessie Oh, I need an old priest and a new priest That's a uh reference from the exorcist a very old classic popular movie Horror movie that is really funny Thank you very much Appreciate that being up there. I'm gonna put the book up again. These are all lessons again just to bring it back home here And we'll end it around the 20 minute mark These are all lessons that come out of the anxious truth, right? So that's how you get the book right there if you don't have it And more than anything else we could go on talking about funny anxiety cures now if we want And not funny but not funny because I understand that for many of you they lead to frustration And sort of prolonged suffering where that doesn't have to be and I'm really sorry about that Uh, but more than anything else I want you to understand that so many of these things are targeted in the wrong direction and Some small percentage of them are outright money grabs Some other percentage of them are just misguided Another percentage of them as nicky pointed at are really meant to be comforting and soothing things more than anything else Which again while it's understandable that we all wanted to be comfort and sooth don't necessarily lead to recovery All right, so that's important. Um, we'll throw this up real quick I know positive affirmations is often held up also People are told all the time And look I posted something on my instagram stories last night about life coaches People are often sort of coached through these problems that we talk about here as mindset problems Flip the script flip the thought turn a positive a negative thought into a positive thought choose happiness Positive affirmations. No, look, I'm not saying that that positive affirmations are horrible You should talk nicely to yourself, right and affirm the fact that you are strong and you are worthy of recovery All those things are important But when the chips and are down and irrational fear has its hands around your throat Insisting that you are in real danger of going insane or losing control or dying for the seven thousandth time in two years Because of a panic attack or a high anxiety spike Or your your obsessive thoughts and intrusive thoughts are are screaming at you really dangerous things that aren't really true positive affirmations That's not the place for those right pot. That's not the place for those. So positive affirmations are not A fix for this they are part of it and by all means if you want to spend some time Doing positive affirmations in your mirror or writing them down or journaling them by all means go ahead But they are not a cure for this in some cases They get worse it makes things worse Because when you are in the thick of it and all you want to do and you're just doing the positive affirmations And it's not bringing discomfort down or it's not making the anxiety go away It can light the fire to an even greater degree for some people because then they get really frantic. It's not working It's not working So there you go. Um vitamins is another one a lot of people talk about, you know, it's a vitamin problem It's a vitamin problem. It's not a vitamin problem again If you want to take vitamins just to make sure you get every everything you need I applaud that no problem go crazy Do things that are good for your body. There's nothing wrong with that. Just don't think that this is somehow a vitamin problem. No, look I will close by saying there are in fact some physiological conditions mainly endocrine in nature that can bring about like Anxiety that you just can't stop. So that's that is true So there are pituitary problems and things of that nature that some people can develop that can cause anxiety that you just can't Stop no matter how much floating accepting surrendering and CBT you do that's very true Those things are rare So unless you have been diagnosed by an endocrinologist or a physician with that type of disorder that type of physiological problem Then by all means like, you know You should take care of that But anybody that tells you that anxiety in general is a vitamin or a nutrition problem Not so much So let's see here Mr. Funky dude, why do I dig that name? I'm going to put up on the screen dude just for your screen name because I dig that in a big way And I'm glad that held for you CBT is the gold standard for treatment when it comes to this and when we're looking talking about here Is CBT and its variants, right? So there you go Let's see here. I'm going to scroll to the end. I think I'm almost at the end. All right guys I can't answer all of them. I wish I did. Oh lucinda basset. I'll put that up just out of freaking like old time sake Lucinda basset as she's still around. She was one of the earliest people I remember seeing her on late night infomercials Way back in the 80s and 90s where you had to buy videotapes and audio cassettes the midwest center for anxiety I remember that So there you go. All right guys. Well, I appreciate you coming by and hanging in through all the technical problems today We're half hour late. We stumbled through like 62 different streams It worked out in the end Remember if all of those cures didn't work for you do not feel bad It is not a reflection on you. It is just a reflection on Oh, you know kind of Cures point in the wrong direction or pointed more at soothing and calming which might be okay In the minute, but isn't going to help on the long term. So it doesn't mean you're broken It doesn't mean you're broken at all You've just been in the book the anxious truth I wrote about being a drift in a sea of bad information Which is exactly what this is and if I can leave you with anything it would be that The fact that you're just you've just been kind of tossed around in a sea full of things that we're never going to work for you But it doesn't mean that you are Broken or can't be fixed. I promise all right So this will stay on youtube in the facebook group on my facebook page and I will post it to instagram Hopefully within about 30 minutes. I appreciate you guys coming by Next week on episode five We get into chapter two of the anxious truth and we start to talk about What the actual nature of this problem really is and we'll go through those lessons over the next However, many lessons that is there's a lot of lessons in this book So we have the next almost year planned out for us already. I will see you guys next week. Thanks for coming by as always Thanks for all the comments. That's awesome. And uh, yeah, see you guys next time. Good luck Book is there if you need it Hawking a book Go for it. See you guys later