 Good morning everyone. Welcome to our weekly mentoring hour. Let's begin this time with a word of prayer. Loving Heavenly Father, we thank You Lord. We come week after week seeking You for Your guidance, for Your wisdom, for Your knowledge, for a deeper revelation from Your Word Lord. Father, we pray that You will lead this time of session, Lord. We pray that You will help us to meaningfully engage in the discussion and help us to grow in Your Word and in spirit. Thank You Father. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Amen. Today we have Pastor Nancy Ramya facilitate the discussion and over to Pastor Nancy. Thank you. Thank you Pastor Diana and good morning everyone. Welcome today for the mentoring hour. As usual, we are going to take time to answer some of the questions that different ones of us have. These could be questions with regard to Christian life. They could be questions with regard to the course that people are doing at the Bible college or it could be something else that you've been wondering about and are looking for answers to. So the questions can be from any area. So I encourage you to please go ahead and share those questions. You can either post it or you can unmute your mic and ask the question. We have the APCBC faculty here who will answer those questions for us. So yes, please feel free. You could go ahead and ask your questions. So as we wait for our first question here, I just noticed we have our students. Some of you have already shared about your ministry experience earlier. Taisha, are you connected? Are you able to speak? Hi Pastor, what did you say? Yes. So Taisha, I just thought I would request you to share about the ministry that you are engaged in with your church. So if you're comfortable to share about what you're doing right now. Yes, I can share. I am a part of a church but I have a ministry that is called Globe Trotters International Ministry. It is currently on, I go live on Facebook, YouTube, right, currently. I pretty much it is about sharing the Word of God, Evangelical, you know, also I am, you know, called to the office of the Prophet. So I will prophesize the Holy Spirit Instruct. But let me backtrack how it started. I was at a power conference. Ernest is seeking God for direction. I was in New York at the time. I went for a three day conference, traveled from Jamaica for three days for this three day conference. So at the conference, I saw, I heard a sound and it wasn't any sound. The musician was playing, yes, but I just heard a different sound. And when I looked at the drum set, there was a different person playing the drum. I was like, who was that? And that sound evoked something. There's something, stored something in me. When I look up, I saw an open vision over, I'm just in the air and I saw where I am leading people to God and where they're clad in their armors. Different skin color, different race. We're just, you know, having our shield on our sword. We are going up as if we're going up a ladder. We are going up, right? And so I didn't understood what it was. And then flew back to Jamaica where I live currently and still praying and seeking God and asking God for direction. And what should I do? And then I heard globetrotters. I'm like, God, what is that? I don't know what is that? So I go with and I saw globetrotters, different basketball team and different. And then I saw the definition of the word, you know, traveling from pretty much place to place and so forth. So I'm saying, okay. And then I heard globetrotters international ministries. So I'm saying, okay, I wasn't too comfortable with the name because it's not a name that you hear all about. Because I'm like, okay. So God, if you're going to give me a name, why couldn't it be Tahitian ministries? I see a lot of people having that. That's the conversation I'm having with God, right? And so anyhow, I continue to be obedient and, you know, continue to share live on Facebook and people tend to gravitate, share the word as he and I will seek him and ask him, what should I share today? And I will share as the Holy Spirit leads and allow me to pray for people and people begun to reach out to me and tell me how it has blessed them and so forth. But at times, though, I will get overwhelmed and our attacks would come and I will say, God, what is this? And sometimes I do want to give up on their times because managing it and managing my job and everything family life, it takes, it comes with maturity and, you know, also wisdom. And so what I have learned to do is plan better, right? And seek God, you know, for a plan, better planning. So that's what I'm doing this year, to plan better. Because I tend to get burned out. And as you know, I'm on a different time zone. It's now nighttime here and it's morning your time, right? So sometimes I have to be, oh, my gosh, the classes, I fall asleep after get up and try catch up and all that. So, and I tend to find I, as I said, I get burned out and all of that. And I don't want to do it. And the Lord is saying, I saw a vision where he showed me the anointing oil splashed out on the floor that I'm wasting it. And I say, okay, God, help me. So I'm learning, as I say now, to the pitfalls and I'm learning to grow in ministry and to seek, you know, and get help for any help and encouragement and advice, you know, because I can't do, it's not a one man show. It's a team, you know, so I'm learning these things as I go on. So this is so presently I am alive still and I'm sharing the gospel with people because as you know, we are called to do that. So that's where I'm at. Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much, Tasha. Wonderful to hear about the ministry that you're engaged in and how it all got started. And I pray that God will bless you abundantly in the work that you do. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Thank you. Thank you, Tasha. And right now we have a question in the chat for us. It is from John Paul. He asks, Hello, Pastor, the incidence of King Saul calling Prophet Samuel through witchcraft. After Prophet Samuel's death was the spirit appeared a familiar spirit. This isn't for Samuel 28. We see Samuel spoke is that Samuel himself? Or the evil spirit? That's the question from John Paul for us. I request one of our faculty, you could please address this question. Professor, you know, would you be able to address John's question? I'm just looking. Hi, how are you doing? A question. And it's just looking at first time in chapter 28. And we see that King Saul disguised himself and he goes to the women who calls, you know, these spirits are called spirits from the land. And King Saul asked the woman to call out or bring out Samuel. And I think the spirit who comes out is Samuel, the old man, the old man is coming up. And she said, When Saul knew it was Samuel and he bowed down and prostrated himself with a space to the ground. He and Samuel said to Saul, Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up? Yeah, so we see sons. So his question is that we see that Samuel spoke is that Samuel himself or the evil spirit? But here it says that it's Samuel himself. Yeah, spirit or Samuel that comes up. He says, Why are you disturbing me? Hope I just want to interrupt here. I just want to interrupt here. Sorry. Yeah, so so one thing, no human being has the power to call back a spirit from heaven or hell, right? Other than the fact that we can raise the dead, right? Suppose a person is dead. And so we can't go and call back spirits. We don't have the right and the power to do it. So what we are seeing here in first time in 20 is an evil spirit because this woman is a witch. She is not dealing with God. She's dealing with evil spirits. So what we're seeing is an evil spirit impersonating Samuel. So that's what's happening here. Now, Saul doesn't know that. King Saul doesn't know it. He's also under hiding. But this woman is a witch. She's dealing with the dark side. She's not dealing with God side. So an evil spirit is impersonating Samuel and speaking out because no human being has the power to do it unless you're doing it in the name of the Lord Jesus to raise the dead. That is you bring a person back to life. You're not calling the spirit back. You're not talking to spirits. So in the Bible, we don't find that we have the authority to talk to departed spirits. It's not allowed. What we do see is impersonation. That is evil spirits impersonate. And sometimes even when you're doing deliverance, you know, and I've had this happen when, you know, your, for instance, there was an occasion right here in Bangalore, we were ministering deliverance to this was not a Christian background or something like that. The evil spirit was speaking through that lady saying that I, this was what the spirit was saying. I am the spirit of that other person who committed suicide. That's what it is. Now, immediately because you know the word of God, you know, that's not true. Okay. Because when the spirit dies, it's either going to go to the Lord in heaven or it's going to the human spirit. It's going to go to hell. So the evil spirit is lying. It's just saying that it's caught trying to cause confusion. Our minds, you know, so they'll be going after the wrong target. And yes, that cannot be right. Because whoever committed suicide, that person, of course, may have been, you know, affected by demonic powers that prompted suicide. But a spirit of that person has gone, wherever it should go, either hell or heaven. But in this person, it's an evil spirit. So, you know, this means giving it a current day experience where the evil spirit is trying to tell lies. It's trying to pretend to be the spirit of a departed person. But it's not. So to answer your first, the first time at 28 is an evil spirit that's impersonating Samuel, just when you put it in biblical context. I hope that's clear, John. Thanks. Yeah, but just to ask a follow up question to that. So in that case, the evil spirit can also tell what is going to happen because we see Samuel saying that he will be handed over to Philistines. Could that happen? Yes, it can. You know, because in many cases, they set it up, you know, or they will know things from our own lives, from our own conversations. You know, and I've had that also happen to me, right? Like example, I was walking down the street, and here are these people who are, you know, they do these, I don't know what the word we call, you know, these, they have all they do this palm reading and all that. That man came to me and he told me some facts, like he I'm a total stranger. And he told me some facts and he told me what I was going to do the next day. Right. But then I wasn't impressed because I know how evil spirits work, right? Either they, they hear our conversation. So they know what we're planning to do. I was planning to travel to a certain place the next day. And this man, this total, you know, this man was practicing what is, you know, they do the palm reading, all the stuff. He comes to me, he tells me, now I'm not impressed. Why? Because I know how evil spirits work. They listen to our conversations. So the evil spirit is empowering this man to tell, tell me what I am planning to do the next day, which is true, which is the fact. But I'm not impressed. Or sometimes they actually set it up, which was the case in Saul's situation where the evil spirit has idea, right? That and they're going to set it up. Tomorrow is the day when things are going to happen, Saul's going to be killed. And Saul is out of the will of God. So Saul is actually in a place where he's completely vulnerable to the works of darkness, as you can see in the previous chapters. So that's how they are able to predict, foretell. Either they hear us in our conversations or they're setting things up against some person. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, John, for that question. We can go to our next question, which is from Avni. Avni asks, Good morning, Pastors. I need more light on Jeremiah 2.13. What does broken systems mean? So I will just post this verse for us on the chat. Broken systems that Jeremiah 2.13 refers to. Would any of our faculty like to explain this, please? Okay, Pastor, could I please request you to elaborate on this first? Yeah, so broken system is simply, you know, parts that are broken. Basically, what God is saying is because his people have forsaken him, who's a source of living water and gone after other gods. Their vessels are broken. They're not whole. It's, you know, if you're having broken vessels, it's leaking. You're not having anything. So that's how they are right now. So they just have broken vessels. That means whatever they think they're receiving from other gods, it's like this. You're pouring water into a broken vessel. Is that okay? Yes, Avni. Is that all right? But did you get the answer to the question? Thank you so much. Okay. All right. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Avni. Thank you, Pastor, for explaining that for us. We have another question in the chat regarding Job 4 and verse 18. And just time to get that first for us. Yeah, this is from Elisha. He says, please, Pastor, could you enlighten me on Job 4 and verse 18? It says, if he puts no trust in his servants, if he charges his angels with error, Elisha would like to request you to elaborate on this. Could you tell us exactly what answer you're looking for from this passage? Okay. And the portion that talks about angels being charged with error. Okay. So your question would be that can angels be charged with error? Is that the question? Exactly. Exactly. Okay. All right. So Elisha is asking if angels can be charged with error? Would one of our faculty be able to take this up, please? Thank you, Elisha, for your question. I think here it's referring to one of the angels charged with error would be Satan himself because he was one of the angels. And we see that he's a fallen angel. And also we see that he, you know, there are quite a lot of other angels who gave him to Satan's claim of being God himself and instead of, you know, thrown out of heaven along with Satan. So yes, they can be, angels can be in error. And it can also be referring here to Satan who fell into error. I answer that question. Okay. So would it be conclusive to suggest that sin is not limited to human alone? Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Elisha, for that follow-up question. I think I will agree with Pastor Selina that angels can be charged with error and just remind it of Lucifer that she mentioned about. We know that, you know, everything that God creates is perfect. So God created even the angels in a perfect way. However, we know that Satan was filled with pride and then that led to deception in his heart and then that led to his rebellion against God. So yes, you know, I think they can go into error in that way. So I hope that helps and if anyone else wants to add to that. Yeah, Pastor Nancy, I just wanted to just, I was just looking at the verse before that and I'm just going to read that out. It says, Can a mortal be more righteous than God? Can a man be more pure than his maker? If he puts no trust in his servants? If he charges his angels with error? I think so when I'm reading this, I mean, these are poetic books. So then it's like a rhetorical question in the sense of how he's emphasizing. I think this is the chapter where Eliphaz, you know, he's talking to Job. So he's making the claim of how, you know, God is more powerful than man. God is more righteous than man. So as a part of that, you know, that speech that he's saying, he's giving more emphasis on the fact of how God himself is so powerful and making that statement. So I mean, it's just something that I just thought I don't know if would, I mean, I do agree with what Pastor Selena said, but is it just to emphasize the righteousness of God or the mortality of God more than the mortality of man? So is that just his way of doing it was maybe a thought that I had. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Jean for that. And Elisha, I hope it clarifies things for you. Yes, Pastor. Yes. Thank you very much. Wonderful. Thank you. Thank you, Elisha. We will go to the next question here on that chat. This is from Abraham. Elisha would request you to mute yourself. Okay. All right. So Abraham has the next question for us where he asks, how do we handle leaders that are not really involved in the activities of the church? They behave like the things of God is a burden and not really in the vision. So it's a very practical question. How do we handle leaders that are not really involved in the activities of the church? Any of our faculty, could you please answer this question for Abraham? Pastor Jaikumar, like to request you to share your thoughts. Yeah, probably Pastor Ashish can actually answer this, but I'll just, yeah, I'll just share this. So the thing is that we see a challenge here that the leaders are not involved in the activities of the church and they're not, they're not really gelling with the vision of the church. Of course, the natural thing to do would be to find out why, to find out why they are in such a place. So I'm assuming that they used to be very much engaged with the activities of the church or engaged with the vision of the church and now there seems to be a kind of detachment. So the who has leaders would be to find out why. Of course, there could be various reasons to find out why, maybe there's a, when they are in a season where they have some issues, challenges going on in their own lives and that's kind of taking precedence over every other thing, maybe. So it could be one of the things, or maybe there is sin in their own lives or whatever it is. So it could be various reasons why people are detached and it just becomes like a burden. So just need to find out and then accordingly, maybe retrait the vision, just find out what is happening. So there could be various reasons why this could happen. So if we as leaders find out why, then we could be, I mean, we would be able to address it appropriately and probably restore them and get them back to, I think. And also the other thing could be also maybe they're in a, we pastor can address this, maybe they are in a season where they should be doing something else. Pastor, if you can, you know, address that. Yeah, like, yeah, Abraham, like, you know, like what Pastor Zegmo was saying, there could be several reasons and it's good to find out what is the reason. And if you want to tell us more about what was actually happening, maybe we could respond more directly to that. Abraham? Yes, yes, Pastor. Good morning, pastors. Good morning. We, it's just a one leader that is been over a year now that he's been the same. So actually, I thought that he was growing. And I think that I thought that he was taking the things of God mostly. But recently, I discovered he thinks that like, he doesn't want the way the thing is going. Initially, we started with about four people for almost about six months. So we had a retreat. And during that retreat, we said, okay, since we are four, and we have a very consistent, then let's consider ourselves as those who are going to let's say lead this activity. So let's say the four of us became leaders. But he hasn't been committed since he became a leader. I mean, sometimes you'll be in the leaders meeting. Sometimes you will not be there. But he always puts other things ahead of God's activity. In other words, he will tell you that if I have a meeting, it means that I'll not come to church. If I have a meeting, I will not come to leaders meeting. So he was selected based on the fact that he was part of us from the beginning. But it's been over a year now. And his commitment to ministry, if you call him to come and share, he will come and share. He will share wonderfully. But looking at his lifestyle in terms of the way he does things, the way he is going to handle things, if you leave him alone, I don't think I should allow him to continue. Or I don't know what to do, whether he was wrongly selected as a leader. Or maybe I'm not, because apart from him, the rest of the leaders are very active. And they all, all of them know what we are doing. And all of them are into the vision, except him. So I don't know how to handle him personally, whether to pray for him and all those things. Yeah, so in this situation, it will be good that all four of you get together and have a discussion, just a talk, where, you know, the expectations are made clear. You know, that, okay, as if four of us are leading this work, this is what we expect of each other. And this is what we are all have, we have committed ourselves to do. And then you could then bring up the, you know, the whole matter that, see, we are only seeing three people being, you know, doing all the leadership work. But the fourth person has over the past one year has not been involved other than coming to minister whenever he's been asked to. So you could find out what is the matter. You know, so you do it as a group, because you've started as a group, three or four of you. So don't have a conversation. And then you're not doing it in a judgmental way, you're doing it in a very, you know, you want to find out what is the reason. And then, you know, like, you'll find out the real reason, maybe he is not really interested, or maybe he's, you know, he's got distracted with other things, whatever, you know. And then, so in that case, you can see, see, you can explain in that meeting, you know, after he has had his chance to say, you know, why he's not been able to be committed for the last one year, then that's a good opportunity to explain saying, look, to be part of this leadership team, this is the expectation, right? We have to be committed. We have to make time to be there at the church services. We have to make time to do, you know, provide leadership for this group of people. And because, you know, you have shared with us that you don't, you're unable to do it, is it okay that we ask you to, you know, step down from leadership? And there's nothing wrong in asking somebody to step down, because if, you know, if somebody's not able to fulfill that role, there's no point in having them hold on to that role just for names sake, you know, that they're adding no value to anybody, and they could just become a burden to carry with you. So you could have that. But you're doing everything in the spirit of love, you're doing everything with being fair and just. And then you ask him, so, you know, is it okay if you step down? Because, you know, as a leader, this is what you're supposed to be doing. And then, you know, you will, you should just be prepared for different reactions, because we are all human. There are some people who would understand that, yeah, look, they've not been able to keep up with what they have requested, so they will step down. So that is a very positive response. But sometimes there will be negative responses as well. They will say, you know, they may go back and, you know, do things against the three of you, whatever, you know, that this is all this human reaction. But as long as you're doing it in the spirit of love, and you're doing it in a very fair way, your hands are clear, your hands are clean, your heart is clean, just keep moving forward. Okay, first up, please, another quick question. During our retreat, we received a confirmation that this is what the Spirit of God wants us to do. But that one came from one of the sisters who barely knew the vision. But personally, you know, I'm expecting an encounter from the Lord, something that the Lord would just tell me that this is what I want you to do. You know, we have not had any struggle in what we are doing. And seriously, we have been led by the Spirit of God for over a year now. Things have been very smooth. I mean, you find the people coming in, you find things happening outside my own control and outside my personal bedding. So the question is, do I need to hear from God aside the purposes I've received from some of these leaders, and then outside those that at least I have known for some time, they have confirmed what we are doing. But personally, there is no word from the Lord to say that this is what I want you to do. But I see light coming, I see direction coming. So what do I do? Do I still seek God for a direct voice to say that this is what I want you to do in Vietnam? Or we just stop. I just want to be very sure. Or there's no need. So we know that every prophetic word has to be tested, right? First Thessalonians, chapter 5, 21, 22. So it says, don't despise prophecies, but test all things. So we're not, we're welcoming prophecy, but we have to test it. And especially when it has to do with direction. So let's say this person who is new, maybe new to the group has come in and I shared this prophetic word saying you have to do this, this. Well, receive it. Then, but then don't immediately go to it. You pray about it, right? Since you have a leadership team, you know, the three of you can discuss about it. And then wait for God's, you know, guidance. So second Corinthians, chapter 13, verse one, in the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word is established. So you look for two more witnesses, right? Two more ways that God, you know, so the one is this person has spoken. But what do the leaders feel? Is it right? You know, is do you have peace about it? Are the doors opening for that particular direction in these kind of things? So you wait for two or three witnesses, you know, around that. Sometimes this may be a word that has been given in advance, you know, maybe it was something called spoke now, but it's going to happen five years from now. It's okay. So just wait for the time to come. You know, maybe it's a true word, but the timing is in the future. So you wait for that. So but the thing is, there's nothing wrong in testing it and nothing wrong in looking for two or three witnesses as a confirmation before you actually step out on it. Now, if it is not so significant word, meaning it's just like, okay, go buy chocolates, okay, you can try it out, you know, just go buy some chocolates. But if it's something, you know, very serious, then you have to, you know, be more cautious. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thank you so much, Besta. Welcome. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor Jagumar and Abraham for your questions. We have a question from Zellie Toli. She asks, recently she watched video, YouTube video, why your church shouldn't play Bethan and Hillsong music from a certain channel? And it really concerned me because the speakers were discussing most of the lyrics, not in line with the word of God and also their core belief, not biblically, because they believe in sucking anointing from the graves of anointed men and women of God who died and so on, etc. So it really concerned me. So what's the take of APC? So that is her question. I would like to just share a few thoughts and maybe Pastor Jagumar can add to it. So Zellie, thank you for that question. I just want to start off by saying that at APC, we do sing Hillsong and Bethel. Reason being, many of the songs are very much in line with the word of God, very much written out of from a place of conviction, a place of experience, that how they experienced God. So yes, in APC we do sing Bethel and Hillsong music even now. But from what you are saying, yes, we have seen that this whole thing of sucking anointing from the graves. Now, these are certain practices that they follow. And so as a church, we don't subscribe to those practices. But what we do is we do understand that these songs worship is more unto God. So when we do sing Bethel and Hillsong, we are worshiping the Lord. And it's not about who's written the song, because the Lord has used them to bless the body of Christ. But the worship is more to God than in our mind when we are worshiping the Lord. It's not about, okay, it's a Bethel song or it's a Hillsong song. So it has to be good. But it's more about God. We are singing this to worship you, to glorify your name. And so we don't subscribe to their beliefs, certain beliefs, or not beliefs, but their practices, like grave soaking and all of those things. But a lot of their songs are very, very much in line with the word of God and very powerful, which has blessed me personally as well. So I would leave it at that. And maybe Pastor Jakes could interject and add his thoughts. Thank you. Yeah, thanks. Thank you, Paul. Yeah, thanks, Zalee, for the question. So the thing is this, that as a church, as believers, we need to be discerning about any song that we sing. I just want to do just any song. So to see that, is it in line with the word of God, be it a hymn, be it, so in the past, we've had to kind of change a few lines here and there, because it didn't sit well. It was the context of it was not really in line with the word of God. It was from popular songwriters of the day. And there's nothing wrong about them, good believers, sincere believers, very passionate for the Lord, love the Lord. But here and there, we've had to make changes so that it will sit well and be aligned with the word of God. So that's one thing that I would say that we need to be discerning. It can come from any of the big worship women, be it Vineyard or Hillsong or any of these churches that God is used to birth these songs. So it could come from any source, but we need to, it's our personal responsibility as believers and maybe as a worship ministry to make sure, be discerning that it's in line with the word of God. Particularly about this particular channel, like what I noticed was, well, they brought out a lot of information, but rather than illuminate the truth, I noticed that it was more from a place of a critical spirit. The whole ministry of this particular thing was in wanting to bring truth and clarify truth to the body of Christ, it is more of a critical that's something that I personally noticed. So I would take that with a pinch of salt, but having gone through that video myself, I just wanted to clarify that one thing about this grave sucking, okay, so this was apparently from what I saw and what I also, he heard some of the interviews, watched some of the interviews. Somebody started it, one of the students of the school, of the supernatural school with some of the one of the students, like all the students very excited, very radical, and they read about this, how the person was thrown into Elisha's grave and Elisha, I forget, and then he came alive. And so they just took it to that extreme and saying, there is this anointing in this man of God and this woman of God and so therefore I'm just going to soak it up and that's how they started it and then it became, but with regard to their core beliefs, statement of faith and core beliefs, I personally don't see anything wrong. It seems to be in place. So yeah, so that's something that I just wanted to share. Thank you. Hope that helps a little bit. Just to add, if you go to Google Podcasts, Bill Johnson has one of his podcast channels and this recently, that's 25th December, he did a short sermon where he kind of clarified this whole thing. He, the sermon itself is the title of the sermon is, Death's Bethel Church, Teach Grave Socking. So if you're interested, it's a little, you can go and listen to it, just a short 25 minute talk, but basically he clarifies this and they don't, basically they don't, right? But as people outside can get wrong ideas and sometimes it's from little actions that happen, but as a church itself, he clarifies. In fact, he did a series of messages during December, clarifying various, you know, what we call as wrong ideas about Bethel Church. One of them was this grave soaking and then there's another one on this Kundalini spirit and there are a lot of, you see, there are a lot of wrong ideas that people have, let's say against Bethel Church or against, you know, other ministries. It's always good to hear from the person inside, you know, because people outside could misinterpret or misrepresent and it's very clear that, so if you're interested, you can go on and it's just something, yeah. Thank you pastors for all these insights and I hope Zellitoli will receive your answer and certain things have been clarified for you. Yeah, okay. I see her answer here on the chat. She says, okay, thank you pastors. It's helpful. So that's wonderful. We have one more question here. I think we can accommodate this. This is from Elisha. He asks, is there any specific time in the night that makes prayers effective? Some people suggest praying between the hours of 12 midnight to 3am is more effective on the devil. So any of our faculty, could you throw light on this question, please? First Nancy, I'll just go ahead and yeah. So I think the Bible talks about what, where is prayer effective and I just want to make it short and just give you two places where it talks about. It says in James 516 that the prayer of the righteous, the righteous person is what is powerful and effective. So it is the fervent effectual prayer that makes prayer effective and the other places, it talks about how you can go to Jesus to God in confidence to ask him for anything and he will hear us. So it's a confident prayer in the name of the Lord that makes it effective and I don't think scripture talks about a specific time that prayers are effective. So I just wanted to bring scripture to that anyone else can add. Thank you. Thank you Jeanne. Any of our other faculty? Would you also like to share your thoughts on this please? Okay Elisha, I'll just add one scripture. Jeanne has already shared some scripture portions. The scripture references there in our chat. I'll add another one to it. Hebrews chapter 4 and verse 16 which says, let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. So that also kind of says anytime you want God to respond, anytime you want to pray, it's all right. As Jeanne pointed out in the Bible, we don't see any specific time or part of the day given for us to pray and petition the Lord and I hope that clarifies things for you. I'll just read out the references that Jeanne has given James 516, 1 John 5, verses 14 through 15. So Elisha, does that help? Yes, yes, that's that. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Okay. All right. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. We have just about three minutes left. Anyone has a quick question? We could accommodate that. As an IC, sorry, please. As an IC, sorry. Please, could you repeat your reference for me? Yes. Yes, Elisha. It is Hebrews 4 and verse 16. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I think we will pray and close for you. Just like to request someone to lead us in a prayer, then we can wrap up today's entering our session. Elisha, would you like to pray please? Okay. We are praying. I have a helping father once again. We are grateful and thankful unto you for this great mercy and grace that you have bestowed on us. We thank you for your guidance in this meeting. We thank you for your spirit-inspired responses that we have had from our faculty. We pray that, Lord, may this response that we have received impact our souls, our daily lives, and our ministries in the name of Jesus so that we will continue to ask that you supply us with the great grace to continue our task in this day. In Jesus' mighty name, we pray in the thanksgiving. Amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Elisha. Thank you, faculty. Thank you, students, for joining in today. God bless you. Have a wonderful day. We will meet again next Thursday for our entering hour and tomorrow will be our supernatural hour at 8 a.m. So we'll see you then. God bless you.