 Good afternoon. My name is Gabriel Pursley. I'm here today with Dr. Tadele Desai from Ilri and at ACB of Europe and Professor Olivier Hanot. So tell me, what's involved in this program? CGG stands for African Chicken Genetic Hands. It's a program or a platform for identifying, testing and delivering productive yet tropical genetic chicken genetics to Sub-Saharan Africa. So it's a platform of different partners as I told you to test and deliver for more productive chicken to African smaller farmers. And I understand you're introducing a new development concept called options by context. Yes. Would you like to clarify what do you mean by this? You know, in this program we have different options and also different agroecologies, production environments and also dealing with different smaller farmers with different status in accessing resources. So those are our contexts. So we'll be testing different options in different contexts and the contexts are different and variable. The options are different and variable. So we need to find that match between the options and the contexts. Once we have that, then we have the right page which is performing very well and the same type liked by the farming community. When likability comes in. So I'm interested in your concept of likability as I was thinking, does this mean you're looking for your pet chicken or who do you want to like these new strengths? These strengths need to be liked by all actors involved in the chicken value chain development. Consumers, traders, as well as farmers that are producing using those liked animals. Likeability is not only, you know, from the outside or the morphology of the chicken, but it has to be productive and the same type fulfills their sociocultural needs of the smaller farmers. Indeed. So Olivier, welcome back to Africa. Thank you. You're coming back. Are you excited about this? Yes. In fact, very excited. As you are aware, Gabrielle, I was here from 1995 to 2009. I took, I would say, an academic sabbatical at the university in UK, but I was missing something there. You know, I was doing good science and so on, but somehow I wasn't fully happy. There was something missing there, really. And so I believe and the time now is right for me to be back because we have so many new tools and I'm back because I want to apply the best of science to have an impact. So Olivier, how do you see that you'll be able to use your vast knowledge of the genetic diversity of chicken combined with to deliver this program, to deliver the practical bleeds for the semi-subsistence systems? I come from a science background and we've been studying with your help chicken for so many years. We know that there is no one size fit for all and we know you know that as well on the farmer side, but we know that on the genetic side and so on. And this is where I think I can help you because no one size fit for all is what you can see but also what's in the inside. The inside is basically the genetics of this animal, the genome of this animal. It's a few different chicken strains and so on. I will help you to tell not only what makes the difference in their plumage, but also what all different they are in the inside. So when we want to match the chicken to the farmer, the inside is as important than the outside. It's usually the women and the children who take care of the chickens. So how are you dealing with some of the gender issues in the program? In this program, women is the center. At a community level, we are building innovation platforms where the village women come together, discuss their issues, identify constraints and also co-create solutions. We are trying to give them the number that makes economic interest so that they can invest their bigger resource, time and energy on the enterprise. So we started already building that on the ground. So that will empower them, I believe. Perhaps on the other side, there seems to be an increase in interest of private sector players in the chicken business. Is this an opportunity for Ulri and your program or is Ulri crowding out the private sector? Yes, I mean, this is one of the main pillars of the program. Once we test the productive yet tropical adaptive chicken strands and once we identify the preferred animals or the liked animals, we will link with the private sector for multiplication and delivery at scale. So the private sector is the main partner when it comes to multiplying and delivering at scale. So they are Mr. Key for us and partnership in this program is Mr. Key. So this sounds the perfect public-private partnership. Definitely. And I might say you two gentlemen always seem to me to be the perfect partners. Yeah. I wish you good luck. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Welcome back. Thank you very much.