 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town. Baby, the sisters, I'm hooking them down. Hi, everyone. My name is Enrique, and you're tuning in for another episode of Talk of the Town. Today, we're here with a very special guest. Woo-hoo, it's the Kid Viz. Busy Blaze, man. We big outside. Brooklyn, I'm back. Talk to me. Yes, sir. We got Busy Blaze in the building. Thank you so much for stopping by, man. It means a lot. So we just want to start off with rapid fire questions. Nice little ice breaker game. Get us flowing a little bit, OK? Copy. All right, cool. So the first one is, what is your favorite food? My favorite food is probably Italian food, so I would say like a vodka pasta. Ooh, nice. That's a good one. It's my favorite. What is your favorite song right now, at least? My favorite song right now? I don't know. It's probably like Vent, Barbarian Messia. OK. Or like, yeah, that one's a good one. Yeah? All right. What is the last movie you saw? I don't even watch movies. No? No, I watched First 48. Oh, word? Yeah. OK. Yeah. Learned something from that. Yeah, definitely learned something. Learned who not to trust. So OK, what is a one artist you want to work with that you haven't yet? One artist I want to work with. Be it managing, featuring. I want to write for Lola. Ooh, OK. Her tap in, you know what I'm saying? I want to cook up some shit for her. Shit. And Roddy Rich. That's my guy. I fuck with Roddy Rich. Even though he's not a New York nigga, you know what I'm saying? I fuck with him. All right, bro. He ain't doing shit. OK. So what is one song of yours you wish got more love? One song of mine I wish got more love. Sheesh. Going 10. Yeah? Going 10 was a fire one. I shot that on my birthday. We went all out, you know what I'm saying? I had my boy Razz pop out, go crazy. That could always get some more love. Everything could always get some more love. Tap in. Yeah. Stream Busy Blizz. You know what I'm saying? OK, and last one. What is your favorite thing to do in New York City? The favorite thing to do in New York City. I'm not going to lie, it's a whole new New York. I have an OT for a little bit, you know what I'm saying? And every time I come back, it's new shit, new shit. There's bars up the block from the crib. There's all types of shit. I was just chilling in Williamsburg and a whole fucking, what do you call that thing? At a hotel or the pool. Like, vibing out with mad white people, like, that shit was never done before, you know what I'm saying? Before the fuck I got here, so. Shots in New York. I like to hang out by pools of white people. Yeah. Where else but New York can you go hang out where pools with white people and then go home, go to the bodega? An area that was just not allowed, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. Shit, when I was growing up, like 10, 15 years ago, I couldn't even go to Williamsburg by myself. Now, everyone wants to go to Williamsburg by themselves. Williamsburg is definitely lit now. Yeah, for real. I might go to the crib out there. Shout out Gentrification. All right, let's get into it. So, Blaze, what do you prefer, Bizzy? Blaze? You could call me Bizzy. Bizzy? OK, Bizzy. So you've been making music for a long time. How about we take it back to the beginning? What are the beginnings of Bizzy Blaze looking like growing up in Flatbush? OK, so the roots of Bizzy Blaze growing up in Flatbush, you know what I'm saying? We always had teams. We always had a crew growing up, you know what I'm saying? So one of the first crews, I was part of a scum gang. One of the first crews, we kind of helped founded, you know what I'm saying? Me, my man, Jusso Brooklyn, Asiatic. Like, we really helped founded that scum gang, the original core we had, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. The hood lit. So that's kind of what it was like. It kind of was always like a good time growing the fuck up, even though, you know, the niggas had beef and shit with certain people and other shit like that and never like stopped us from running every party, party promoting, hitting, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, fucking bitches, you get it. So now's a good time growing up in Flatbush, man. And nobody had it, but everybody moved like it was lit, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I would say that. OK, all right, cool. Yeah, so scum gang, this is like, I mean, we spoke about it off mic, but just for like the viewers at home, this is like the same scum gang that 6ix9ine was over here shouting like out in his first tracks, right? OK, so so so basically that whole situation happened because in like 20, I don't say like it's seen now before that. It was it was a while before that 6ix9ine reached out because they was trying to get down with like a team that they thought they started, but then they looked up, you know, the niggas had the information locked in. We had our shit locked down. We had our shit LLC'd from jump. So when you look up that online, it was us. So he reached out. You know what I'm saying? He reached out to us and and I tapped in with him. I sat down and I had a conversation with him. He played me some music. The shit wasn't like hitting, you know what I'm saying? Like as far as like like sonically music wise, but then they got had like mad shit in there that was like, you know, like different from from what everybody was doing. What do you call it? What do you call it? Not like cloud shit. It's called fire. I can't remember the name right now. But basically shock value. That's the name. He had a lot of things that include shock value. Boy was cutting up fake coke with the EBT, getting fake head on the couch. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, girl. Didn't matter what he was saying in the song after that. You know what I'm saying? So I peeped that from the beginning, brought him on board. And at this time, I'm a full on artist. You know what I'm saying? Full on busy blaze. Be as easy dash. He get busy all that shit. You know what I'm saying? Scum gang. But I can still see when a younger artist kind of has potential to just do their thing. So I brought him on board. We locked him in and brought him to the studio with us all that shit. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that started. Yeah. If you really want to get into how it ended, it's just that. Yeah, no. You know. Yeah, the rest is history. Where, where, what happened? I did something for Complex two recently. Probably like a year ago, they wanted me to tap in and tell that story, too, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I could imagine, especially considering the press that he was getting, he had this rapid descent and rapid descent for all intents and purposes. Happens, man. If you're not locked in with the right team, it'll happen. Get with the right team. Get with the gang. Get with Ghost of Label. Get with Get Busy. We let. Yeah, no. That's a nugget right there. Absolutely need the right team. And yo, look out for Busy. No, big fact. So, OK. So after the whole six-nine debacle, after that happens, what is, what's the next step for you? Do you? So for me as an artist, I've always been pushing as an artist, you know what I'm saying? I told you earlier off camera, I felt like we always did everything perfectly. You know what I'm saying? Like, shout out to Spratt Fool. Spratt was my manager for a long time, you know what I'm saying? And at them times, we was knocking shit out the park. Every time we did something, it's perfect. You know what I'm saying? We're blowing up on SoundCloud. We're doing shit at DD172, but I was way before that. But we was doing shit at, like, what the fuck is that called? Dash, radio. I did some shit at Dash Radio when I touched down in LA. There was all types of websites that I used to post. So that's why I got a lot of blog shit from. You know what I'm saying? So things was blowing up. Things was going great on an artist's sense. But what happened with it is along the way, no matter what, like I said, if I see an artist that it makes sense to be on board, it makes sense to help them in the situation. I've always been a helpful person. So I've done that along the way, you know what I'm saying? So this time around, I'm just here to do more, get a nigga out there, say more, you know what I'm saying? Rather than just do it perfectly and to do the perfect videos. And that's heads up for artists, you know what I'm saying? Coming in this shit, too. Nowadays, it's a different ball game. Get your personality out there. Niggas is getting signed up for their personality. Niggas is getting attention up for their personality. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like that part matters. Compared to back in the day, we just have to do it perfectly. You know what I'm saying? Or make good music. What made you want to go into management? You know, helping people get their stories out, helping them get right, make sure they're doing the things that maybe weren't too keen to you when you were coming up as an artist? Like what was the thought process behind that? OK, so as far as me creating Ghost of Label, which stands for Go Hard or Stop Trying, you know what I'm saying? I always wanted the best team. I grew up with a lot of homies, you know what I'm saying? We were deep in the streets. We was doing a lot in the streets, you know what I'm saying? Like Scum Gang, even at the time, had four or five artists, you know what I mean? So it's a lot of us. But I kind of like, I wanted, like basically, I am a farmer. Run for question back. No, you're good. So I was asking, were you partially answered the first part of it? I'm going to pick up from. I just need you to remind me back one more time. So like what was the process or transition behind you going from artist to manager and wanting to put people on? So yeah, so that's the reason we created like, you know what I'm saying? Ghost of Label and stuff like that is basically because of I always wanted a team. Yeah. I know that damn well I could be a team for somebody if necessary, you understand? So the shit that I didn't get, I'm more than a gift to other people, you know what I'm saying? And I did that with like Suave Porter. And I did that with Smoke. Smoke was my first experience really at it. 6ix9ine, I brought on board, I'm the one that vouched for him, told the whole team we need to sign this kid. You know what I'm saying? We need to lock in with him. But I didn't like help walk him through. You know what I'm saying? We had another nigga that was part of the team, you know what I'm saying? And he tried to like put his hands on 6ix9ine and like walk him through. But he had his own intentions with him, you know what I'm saying? So that kind of is what fucked up the relationship too. So I don't call his asthma like first like management experience, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, absolutely. I would say Smokey was my first one. You know what I'm saying? Where Smokey was living with us. Like if it wasn't like for him, for us making sure he survived, he couldn't go out and do something. You know what I'm saying? Like he's coming home from the studio and making fucking records with platinum producers. You understand? Like the record, he did not nice. Drop coming home and like, let me use your laptop. Jumping on the ASEAN and dropping the fucking record and we watching it do fucking 500K the same day. You like what the fuck? On SoundCloud, you understand? This is like this kid that don't got nothing right now, but he had relationships, but that's the difference. At that time, he hit right in between where he didn't have to be too much out there on social media. He was bailing on social media blowing up, but Smokey would be a court in like, I understood that about, you know what I'm saying? Like the thing in the art, I think like other moments matter more than just sitting there on social media or sitting there trying to put out music. He would link up with some people. The kid ended up in fucking picture with Kim Kardashian and Kanye West at Jamie Foxx crib. You understand? Random shit that we picking them up from these places, you understand? And dropping them off to these places, not even know what he's about to get into for the night. It's like shit, you know what I mean? We drop it, leaving them a rocky and it's just a hoopla by the morning. He's on fucking TMZ. You understand? So it was just like organic shit. You know what I'm saying? I learned that and that's what got me into that. That's what made me want to get into that. Once again, when I was with Smokey, I was a full on artist still, you understand? But helping them out with the management situation. Went on tour with him. We did overseas tour fire. You understand? How to relate shit with ASAP Rocky from long before. So that also helped his situation, you know what I mean? So yeah, because before that show, I even forgot to mention. We can ask the next question I'll mention it after. Oh no, that's cool. We can keep on talking about it. Before that, I don't know how I forget to mention it's this part of my history. I started off working at Babe. Oh wow. I worked at Babe the Nate for five years. Oh wow, okay. I got hired then when I was a kid. Like literally like 17. Sheesh. So I worked right there in Babe, New York for five years. That's where everybody knew me from. That's where Cudi was still working at the time. Oh wow. So it's a lot of shit that inspired me to music. You know what I mean? I don't want to skip out on it. You know what I mean? It's a lot of shit that inspired me to music. I was working with Cudi. Cudi invited me to Red Bull Space and different places like that. And the niggas too young to even get in. Yeah. You understand? They dropping, I'm at the fucking door and I got to act the main fucking act to come down and get me. You understand? Because at this time it's like, this nigga's new to New York. You know what I'm saying? He's just a nigga from Ohio. He just got pat with him. You know, got nobody else with him. You know what I'm saying? So I also understood the duo of like, damn one person could really get it done for you. Pat took Cudi under his wing. And now Cudi's huge. You understand? So I'm like shit nigga. I'm busy, I'm from the hood. But everybody know me in my hood. I'm a success story in my hood. You understand? Whether it's not like a all over the place and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Like worldwide yet they know me in the hood. A lot of people was inspired by my grind and what I was doing at the time when nobody was doing shit. Yeah. You understand? I could take somebody. You know what I'm saying? Cause I chose the money over the fame so I can invest in somebody. You understand? And take them to something big. Yeah. So why the fuck wouldn't I do that? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Somebody to sit back and be a, who does it? Yo Gotti. Or you know what I'm saying? Or one of them niggas that got a money back, you're making him money consistently. So when he drive it don't matter where he go platinum. Exactly. You're gonna go platinum. You get it? Yeah, no, absolutely. That's like, that's a really smart move too. And honestly that's like a great takeaway at such a young age. Being that young, working at the Babe Store. And even then just like while Kid Cudi's working there I could imagine all the other high profile artists that probably came into the store. Five years, bro. That shit is a part of my life. I grew up in the Babe Store. Like niggas know me from Babe. You understand? Everybody knows me from Babe. They don't know me. They lying. You understand? Like literally like Fer calling me. You're rude. You got them kicked into the dark. You feel me? That's my guy. I got you. Put him on the side. Chris Brown coming to buy shit first hand. You understand? Calling my phone first just because I show love. You understand? Whether you don't fuck how I show love. Cause you know, that don't matter now before I go on to the next step please. But you know what I'm saying? I did my thing and I showed love to the streets and set it for myself. You know what I'm saying? I could have been baked out every day. Had every fucking dripping gear but instead I made little connections and friends. Where if I'm gonna give you a discount you gon' get it off the arm. I could just take it for myself. Keeping it above. You understand? But that's not where I do. I go and I show love to other people. So that's how I've been. That's admirable too because I feel like a lot of the times in the industry like a lot of people it's just like what can you do for me? Not necessarily what can I also do for you? You know? Like it's very, it's like super transactional and not really genuine. But in being genuine you build those like the foundation of those connections that prove to be like really meaningful. Big fact. And I said it brought a lot of relationships from that store. Like I said I had a crazy relationship with Asap Yams. That was my dogs, you know, rest in peace. Yeah rest in peace. Steve like that's my people's you understand? Like I had a good relationship with him coming in. Just all of these people who wanted in at the time. You understand? So that's why with my eyes I pay attention to people who want in. I seen y'all when y'all first started doing talk of the town and things like that. Y'all want in, y'all want part, so you know what I'm saying? The industry, I see that. So the consistency in the, is why I deserve, you know what I'm saying? Yeah thank you. Whatever it is that y'all get and as y'all get it along the way. So it's the same shit, you know what I'm saying? Like I always pay attention to people who want in, people who want it for themselves. Yeah you know what I'm saying? So yeah. Thank you man. Well, I appreciate that. Everybody here to talk of the town. Thanks to you. Yeah. But what's it called? So you start off in BAPE Store. You got a lot of connections there that you eventually used to help carry you through the music industry, helping the artists you work with. When you guys had Smoky, he was already with Aug? No. Okay, so how did that happen? He was already with Aug. Oh really? He was already with Aug because he did a remix to a record. So Smoky was really young at the time. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like maybe like this is 13, 14. This kid is buzzing up. You know what I'm saying? In 2017, like he's a kid. Yeah. So as a kid, it's very easy to sway your crowd. You know what I'm saying? Or get somebody like, your fan base to be gullible in a sense. They're all kids. Yeah. So he dropped a record where he remixed one of Rocky's records. And you know how sometimes people would drop something on YouTube like featuring this person. You know what I'm saying? Then you can get away with it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So he'd do that featuring Asap Rocky and all the kids in his school, all the kids in his neighborhood. Like yo, what the fuck? You got a record with Asap Rocky, you know? And it just buzzed for him. You know what I'm saying? And when it buzzed for him, Rocky's like, you know, I can come out and meet the kid with the hell. Rocky always showed up to the streets. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I'll come out and meet the kid. Just took a picture with him. Wow. At an event or some shit. And soon he threw that shit as the artwork of the video. And it's just like, he's just buzzing up, buzzing up, buzzing up, people are calling, asking about him, asking about him, asking about him. So spun back to where they thought he was already fucking with Asap. You know what I'm saying? And then Jason Orlat, you know, my man Ish, who was running the situation at the time, locked in, sat down with Jason Orlat, sat down with Rocky himself, and actually, you know, like solidified a deal. A lot of people don't know, Rocky was 50, 50% management with Smoky. So Rocky was his manager also on top of being an org. Obviously he's not day-to-day like us, you know what I'm saying? Like me and my boy Ish, you know what I mean? But, and Grape and Jelly and them was there part of that situation, you know what I mean? Yeah. So he's not day-to-day like us. We dealing with the kid day-to-day. But when we drop him off, he ends up at the Jamie Foxx, you know what I'm saying? Party at a Kanye party, things happen. So that's why we did that. You know what I'm saying? I was niggas when I did 50, 50, because niggas didn't erase him. You know, we had to deal with him, like early and truly, you know what I'm saying? And as soon as we're not, shit happens. Free my boy Smoky. Absolutely bro, free Smoky. Like I remember being in high school, and like that's when I really started to note like the young kids, like being out here, making moves, like being able to utilize the platform and the internet to really help them get their stuff out there, you know? And I remember knowing like, yo, this kid's like barely older than my brother. So to see the evolution is like absolutely nuts. But I didn't even, I didn't realize that. That Rocky was like going 50, 50. But I mean, that's not something that was like, you know, put out there for everybody to know. But just to show like, like sometimes, I said that really, I said that really to say that sometimes like actually taking care of the person matters. You understand? So we wouldn't do that if he didn't take responsibility for taking care of the human being. That management shit is not a game, bro. These niggas be having different personalities. These niggas be, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like emo, like all types of issues, drug issues. These kids have anger problems. Like it's not a game when it come to management, bro. You understand? So it's just like understanding that part. That's why we did that. You understand? And we tell them like, yo, bro, we're taking on a big, you know, shit, like we got to make sure the kid makes it alive the next day to get back to y'all. You know what I'm saying? So that's why we did that. I just say that to say, like, you know what I'm saying? It's a big responsibility. So that's why we showed like, if you're willing to take on that responsibility, then go 50, 50 management. You know what I'm saying? To show like, we ain't just going to be giving you, you know what I'm saying? No, 80, 80, 20. And you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we deal with him. You know what I'm saying? Especially like, essentially helping raise him to a degree. Yes, that kind of stuff is super important. So really admirable and noble on your part. So thank you for making us all aware of what you guys have contributed to Smoky's career. I know most stuff, man. They know me in these dreams. This is why I'm doing this little run. You understand? It's because I haven't took the time out to tell my story. You know what I'm saying? That kind of just go by, they know me, they know me. You know what I'm saying? But nah, like, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? Everybody deserves their flowers. I should go around running down the line too. This is just a start, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a good start, but y'all see. Y'all see. So, okay, let's go from Smoky being your first real management project. Who comes after that? Who is it like the second? Smoky, I went full on back to knocking out this music. I went on tour with Smoky at the end of his show. We went on an overseas tour right before he signed in the scope. You know what I'm saying? My boy, Nick put that together. Nick worked with Bryson Tiller and TJ right now, little TJ. Yeah, Nick Barr. Nick Barr helped put together that tour. You know what I'm saying? It's just a fire tour, so you're surprised. I say this to kids and if y'all got a little bit of fan base here, guess somebody take y'all a little bit of season. Y'all see what type of fan base y'all really got. You know what I'm saying? But the kid was lit, so I did that with him as an artist. You know what I'm saying? I performed on the tour, I had that whole run, I did that, went back out. Like I said, to knocking out my shit, I dropped a few projects in between. I dropped too busy, way too busy. I had a lot of love. I had my boy JL Shot that come in and shoot that video for me today. And I have Fabio and M, T.Restin' Peace T.Dot in the video. You know what I'm saying? And this is just so, you know what I'm saying? We fuck with each other type shit. Like family, like hood shit, you know what I'm saying? Gang shit. So it's just like, yeah, full on into the music shit. I had a right instant with Def Jam, my boy Rico Beats, you know what I'm saying? That's my cry. Oh sure, shout out Rico Beats. Rico Beats. Yeah, we had them all not too long ago. Oh yeah, that's family bro, you know what I'm saying? Like I know Rico since, like I said, the very beginning of my artist days, you know what I'm saying? Because one of my boys from the hood, A.I., that's his actual blood cousin, you know what I'm saying? Oh wow. So yeah, he's a fire artist too, but you know what I'm saying? But yeah, so my boy Rico Beats asked me to come in on Def Jam when he was working over there at Def Jam, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I did some writing for them over there, killed over there. And this is some people that I knew already. That's almost everywhere I go I run into people I know. You know what I'm saying? I mean it's like Dominic Lord, he showed a lot of love. Stephen Victor was running the show over there at the time. I actually knew Stephen Victor from way back when I was working at BIT. Oh wow. And he was Pusha T's manager, you know what I'm saying? And like literally, it's just, you gotta, if you really watch from the industry perspective of it, and you see these people come up, you understand? Yeah. In between watching the artist shit, you might not even care about the artist stories the same, you understand? Interviewing people behind the scenes matters, OD. Because I tell you, Stephen Victor was coming in, grabbing clothes for Pusha, or making polls doing, damn near like his manager slash assistant, because he wants to see him win. You understand? And that's his boy locked in. And Pusha winning means that he won. And from there, even when you stop him by Pusha, who you hear about? Stephen Victor. Yeah. On top of his shit, running this label, president here, this guy here, you understand? So these are inspiring stories that I've seen along the way that people don't even pay attention to, you understand? Yeah. Like because they just focused on the artist. And that's cool, you know what I'm saying? But I'm a behind the scenes nigga right now, so. You know? Yeah. No, I'm not sure I love to that. I feel you because like artists are so important in the sense that like they're these, essentially these giant personalities, these big images that people invest a lot of money into and ultimately profitable, but it's not like that just happens overnight, you know? Like it's almost like raising a kid. Like it takes a village to make these things happen. So I think that like spotlighting the people behind the scenes are really important because, I mean, like I said, it doesn't really happen overnight. Like you need people to make things happen, make the connections and so on and so forth. That's a fact. Yeah. So that situation happened. I got brought in with the deaf gym shit. I wrote for a bunch of kids over there. YK was over there at the time. YK isn't YK's Irish. He was over there at the time. He just got signed by AE at the time. Yeah. So this is when a lot of people was new over there. T.J. Porter was new over there. You know what I'm saying? Like they had a whole little, you probably know that the deaf gym camps, they did disputed deaf gym camps here. So they did that album. I don't think that went anywhere. You know what I'm saying? But I know reasons why. You know what I'm saying? Because that's around the time pop smoke shit came alive. So I know pop smoke shit shut down everything. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, so yeah. So, you know, I was right there in the midst of all that, you know what I mean? Yeah. But like I said, I always took the humble route when it comes to my artistry. And I always look for the team to really, you know, push you and build you and go crazy. So that's why I said, without a team, you can't really do this shit. You can yell from the fucking top of the hills. Yo, I'm the best artist in the world, you know what I'm saying? But if ain't nobody else yelling that with you or can't enough people hear you, you know what I'm saying? Like it ain't going nowhere. You know what I'm saying? Like straight up. So yeah, so that happened in between what else happened? Music, music, music, Def Jam shit. Steven Vick, pop smoke shit was a crazy run. My boy legend, you know what I'm saying? That's one of my main producers growing up. He did this record Big Brother for me. Tape in with that. He did a bunch of records for me. My boy legend. My boy Dunk Rock is lit right now, who's been doing beats for me for years. My boy Shiv is lit right now. Shiv, Loud Pack, they've been doing beats for years. They've been doing beats for years. Shiv and them got something on Drake album. Dunk Rock just produced Fuck You Mean by Gunna. Oh shit. Yeah, fact. Oh, okay. That's right. That's why that song is so familiar. I remember seeing that video of him pulling up on Gunna in the car. Yeah, that's Dunk Rock. So he's been at it for years. You know what I'm saying? So it's like all the people behind the scenes is really coming to light. So I'm like, I might as well jump in the light. You know what I'm saying? With it's like shit. But no, Dunk Rock is my guy. Dunk Rock's been producing beats for me for years. He did today, the record, that JL shot, the video too. And I got Dunk Rock and them. Say that. Yeah, I got Dunk Rock and them. They did that video and I got a five in them. You know what I'm saying? Got you. Pulling up to the shit and everybody else in there. So yeah, Loud Pack, like I said, Loud Pack, they did Drake album. What was it I mentioned? Big Bro Legend got two, three records with Pop Smoke. You understand? He did the shit with Pop Smoke and PNB. Rest in Peace to both of them. You understand? Like that record, that's Big Bro Legend. You know what I'm saying? So it's just a lot of love. I've been really locked in with the same producers that everybody else is fucking with. You know what I'm saying? As an artist, but once again, without a team fully behind you, it's not gonna go as crazy as you wanted to go unless you got the budget. And also the right people to put that money on. Absolutely. That budget will go to waste. A lot of niggas out here wasting time. Let's not get into that conversation. You understand? A lot of people out here taking kids' money. You know what I'm saying? Selling dreams. Oh yeah, we'll do a YouTube campaign for you. You got 10,000 views, not a single fucking comment. You understand? It's really people out here doing that. I feel like getting into what it is on later interviews or maybe some other platforms when I start to call names. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you've been behind the scenes for a while watching a lot of stuff play out. While Brooklyn Drill and Bronx Drill were picking up over the past few years, were you here in New York or were you over in LA watching it? So I've been in LA. Okay. I've been in LA back and forth because I work with a bunch of New York artists. Right now I'm helping manage Curly's sad situation. Oh, that's crazy. Yes. Yeah, we just had him on out too long to go to. Okay, for sure. So Curly, yeah. Curly didn't run in New York. I added a couple things to his run too, like press stuff, you know what I'm saying? So Curly is my guy. I was Curly from the very beginning of his solo career. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like he had a situation with the other artists before and then from there he's on a solo career. Yeah. But the main reason why I've been back and forth for the last couple of years, other than my own, you know what I'm saying? Shit, it's been Suave Porter. Suave Porter is this artist, very special artist whom I was managing for two years. You know what I'm saying? The last two years. And he's locked up right now, you know what I'm saying? Free Suave, like free SP, like you know what I'm saying? Like this kid is special. This kid was probably and still could be the biggest thing, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. In New York. You know what I mean? Like when it came to the music, to the point where for the first time ever in my career, I felt I didn't feel the need to be a full on artist. You know what I'm saying? Oh wow. At the same time, while helping manage your kid. Yeah. I'll tell you, while dealing with Six Nives, a full on artist, while dealing with, I'm doing shows, I'm doing interviews, I'm not interviewing, I'm doing shows, I'm doing releasing records, when you're on campaigns, all that shit. Yeah. For myself at the time. With the smoky same thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm focused on being an artist. Even when I first started helping with Curly's situation, I'm in Def Jam, I'm fully being an artist. You know what I'm saying? Doing all these other things. But when I met Swabay, sorry. The first time I met somebody, type shit, or an artist that negated the sound, you know what I'm saying? It was like, said everything I needed to say. I didn't even feel the need to talk like that no more. Okay. Like you understand? Yeah, that's great. The kid really said everything necessary to say. You understand? So with that being said, like, yeah. Okay. You know what I mean? Like free SP. You know what I mean? I've even shared his stuff with y'all a couple times. Just posted him on Talk of the Town. You know what I'm saying? I did a record with him at Curly. That went crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like, so yeah, he's out there. So he's here from here in New York, right? He's from Brooklyn. Oh, word. He's from Brooklyn. He's from Flatbush Sides. Okay, but. You know what I'm saying? So the kid is out there. Okay, yeah. Definitely gonna tap in more to Swabay Porter. Thank you for putting me on. I appreciate it. I thought, yeah, I am. A documentary coming out too soon. Oh, word? Yeah. I'm gonna go back to the story because he's 19, he just turned 20 in jail. You know what I'm saying? Wow. It's a big situation. You're not locked up for nothing. So you know what I'm saying? Free Swabay. Yeah. We're gonna expose the story. Expose his whole upbringing and where he really got the offers. I know this for New York. You know what I'm saying? A different sound. Wow. Yeah. No, that's amazing. What are my, when do you think we'll see that? Shit. Hopefully, I want to say sometime the beginning of the next year. Okay. Now his child hasn't even started. Ah, okay. So yeah, so you know what I'm saying? Yeah. He locked up with Jusso Gusto. Jusso Gusto was K-Flock and M-Camp. This is all current stuff, you know what I'm saying? Like this is not like, I don't do like woodwork stuff, same stuff you never heard of, you know what I'm saying? Everything I do is current. I just don't talk about it on my social media. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, okay. Talking about the current state of drill as is with all these unfortunate incidents of these artists getting locked up after having popped off. What do you, what's your opinion on all that? On the state of hip-hop in New York right now in general? So I watched something or a platform the other day with a window. And he mentioned, I mean I asked him something about drill. Yeah. And he mentioned a couple of things that I thought were facts, you know what I'm saying? About it, not all of them were, but the drill artists nowadays, it's like, it started with the pop smoke in them ever, you know what I'm saying? Like a little bit before that, what was Chef G in them, I would say? Yeah. Where a lot of controversy came with beef. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Once the fans found out about it, there's a lot of talking about it, a lot of clicking about it, a lot of fans, when you sit back and read the comments, it's almost sick. The fans are sitting here like, like it's a TV show, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, bro. It's like, they are antagonizing these people at the end of the day. Cause I couldn't see myself like having an issue with somebody and then reading these comments, you know what I'm saying? Not wanting to just, like not feeling like, you know, like let on or antagonize to go outside and violate. Yeah, absolutely. You know what I mean? So the controversy raised the drill shit, you know what I'm saying? And from there, kids peep that and instead of just anything natural, they just focused on building controversy, building drama, building issues. So now at the end of the day, you gotta prove yourself at some point, right? Yeah. So now that's what happens. You know what I'm saying? You put yourself out there, building drama, building controversy, building all that stuff and now you gotta prove yourself and you crash out. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you've seen it happen with the best of them. So it's like, some of them, I'm not gonna say all of them, some of them was way too deep in the streets anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like to even for the music to even matter to them. They just got lit cause they had natural controversy which doesn't make it any better. No. You know what I'm saying? But nonetheless, there's so many kids jumping in this shit just cause it's starting beef with niggas they don't know. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They know that. You jump on line and tell a couple, throw a couple of franks. You know what I'm saying? A couple of SMDs, harass a couple of people. You know what I'm saying? They say something back. Now the comment, the kid, the commenters want to know who you are. Exactly. And what you have to give. So talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. That shit is weak, bro. That's talking about the dead shit is weak. All that shit is corny. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't care for the death. I'll never talk to anybody. I'll care for anybody else dead. You know what I'm saying? If I got beef with them, so I'll never talk about them ever. You know what I'm saying? I got to the end of the day. All right, Peter, I'm gonna know what happened in afterlife, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, literally, I think it's talking about niggas. I'm like, see you again. For real. It's, I feel like it's become such like a super, it's synonymous with the current state of drill in New York, like talking about smoking on debts and like name dropping all of these, like people who've passed away and like really fucked up ways. And it's unfortunate because so many kids like you're saying, like who aren't a part of this lifestyle at all, don't even really care about the music. Just start looking for some quick way to get lit and then like make this shit pay off a different way. Are doing it as if it's almost like a, like a proven formula that works, you know? Because like so many labels have incentivized those kids who say the crazy shit because they're blowing up. And then they'll have one pop and song and they go and perform. And then there's like zero hardest development whatsoever on that side. Exactly. It doesn't even matter anymore. You understand? They tell them getting a studio, spit some shit. They tell them trying to make a record about some hoes. Fuck kids about a 15 year old doing a record about hoes, bro. Like for real, like you understand? Like it doesn't even look real. Like it doesn't even look, look, look, look, look. Like it's possible, you know what I'm saying? It's like you're gonna have big booty video bitches with like BBLs and shit and this kid is like fucking 11. Like it's not, it doesn't make any sense, bro. It's just like shit that they rolling out. You know what's coming next. Cause that's when I get called then. It's when they need to make them to make a real record. You understand? Like like make something with substance, make something, not substance, but something with a hook and a base to it. And this, you can't talk about the dead. You can't talk about this op again. You're spinning the block again. You know what I'm saying? You need something with a little more oomph to it. You know what I mean? That's why I get called then. And then they come in and we make a record for real. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, yeah. So while we're still on the topic of drill, like do you see it thriving as a genre like it has the past few years, like continuing to? If it picks back up to what it was before, like street shit exists. Street shit is every day. I come from street shit every fucking day. I just don't care to talk about it 24 seven online. You never gonna see me talking about tapping to this street shit, tapping to that street shit. I leave it for what it's for. So that exists. You understand? You can't stop that. People talking about their story is gonna happen. But like I said, these kids realize that they're winning off of the controversy. It's not the story. They don't have a story to tell right now. You know what I mean? It's the controversy. So therefore let's just do it back and forth. If we argue right now, you know what I'm saying? And everybody gonna click in about what we had to argue about. Then why the hell when we just come on here and argue? You know what I'm saying? Why would we waste time trying to kick some game or say something that's a gem, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, all that shit is like, yeah. It could switch back to that because it come from UK drill, you know what I'm saying? And UK drill, they did mention their ops and every gangster rap they mentioned their ops. You know what I'm saying? But they got cool ways of saying it. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Like literally like 50 of them would say so much shit about what's it called. Sometimes they will come out blatant. You know what I'm saying? But this whole record would never be about one person. Exactly. It'd be about so many different things. You know what I'm saying? They'd be creative. There'd be other things in it. You know what I mean? But nonetheless, look, let them get they shine. If people gonna keep getting some, people gonna keep winning, keep doing certain things. I'd let them get they shine. Some of them hopefully can make it out the mud. You know what I'm saying? Not end up like a K-flot or something like that. They make it out the mud and then they'll get to sit around people like myself and people who actually know the game and learn something. You know what I'm saying? And switch what they doing to learn because you can't learn along the way. It's just whack that they sign these kids before they fucking learn how to actually make music. Yeah. No, that's definitely an unfortunate trend like signing kids almost too quickly. I think that's somebody who's like a really good example of how to start the drill scene and then branch out. Honestly, it's Kenzo B. She's been doing a really great job of that. Kenzo B. Shasta Kenzo B. I'm not gonna, I've been seeing her shit pop up and she did a freestyle joint and she decided to change up the vibe. You know what I'm saying? And kick something different. And she's really showing her versatility overall and then sticking to her bridges because that's what matters more too. You know what I'm saying? Because it's easy to fold when you don't get the views back on something you thought. You know what was kicking some new style is gonna give. You know what I'm saying? So she didn't fold, sticking to her bridges, working with different artists, that's what matters. You know what I'm saying? That's what I got. Like the artist that I'm working with doing now. You know what I'm saying? We kicking shit with different artists. We linking up. She's doing that. Not just in the city, not just everywhere. You know what I'm saying? She got a story to tell and she gonna kick it, how she kick it. You know what I mean? Shasta Kenzo B. And I like that. Yeah, for real. Shasta Kenzo B. I think that she is honestly, she and Ice Spice, I feel like are both really good examples of how to start off in the drill shit and then spin it once you have the following. Not necessarily like, Ice Spice isn't like she was out here dissing anyone. And Kenzo, she had the little beefs here and there but it's not like it really damaged her career in any way whatsoever. Like she's able to spin away from that stuff and really transition towards the more marketable stuff. I think that they're really both good examples of how you can turn this into something that will get you out of the hood in a really good and positive way too. I think some of my peoples were with Ice Spice situation. Her situation is a little too perfect. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Like it ain't saying like nothing's wrong with what she's doing. You know what I'm saying? She writing on her records, shouts to her. You know what I'm saying? Like if the producer, she went writing on her records, shouts to him too. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, she's meteoric. Well her shit is clean. Like I can't complain. I have really nothing to say about it. You know what I'm saying? At the time, I'm not gonna lie. I had talked shit on this platform. I talked shit on like any of our comments. You feel me? What NYC sounds like? I'm heavy in their comments, they know me. You know what I'm saying? I had talked a little shit like damn. Like we pushing Ice Spice, we not pushing Lola. Or we pushing this and we not pushing that. You know what I'm saying? Not a bunch of people that came from things with Billie. I know Billie like, you know what I'm saying? Like this, like OG, Marilyn Monroe, you know what I'm saying? Like I know them like this. Like so I want to see them shine too, you know what I'm saying? But at the time it was Lola that had the record. But they was blatantly ignoring the record. You know what I'm saying? And now with like Lola got hurt, I can't complain. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody type shit. But just saying like we knew, you know, Ice Spice shit was hitting in a certain way. But people were attaching to it because of it blowing up quicker than I thought they were attaching to it because it was actually good. We learned later on, like sonically, you know how this shit is hitting. Like you know what I'm saying? No hate to it. You know what I'm saying? She comes correct every time she's consistent. Sonically it's good. You understand? But at first it was just like oh shit, this is not what it's all about shit too. You know what I'm saying? That's fine. We all try and get something. You know what I'm saying? We all try and get to a goal, but you know you gotta talk shit in the comments still. You know that's how you still look, yeah. I think that, what's it called? I feel like social media definitely played a huge part in helping propel Munch to like this huge spotlight that allowed her to really just like take off even more. Yeah, and I'm okay with that. You know what I'm saying? Like it could be a million different ways these kids get on and I may come on a platform and be like no that was crazy, that was just that but just believe and understand. I'm talking about the actual situation of how, you know what I'm saying? You got put on. You and your success, I want it all for you. You understand for anybody who gets it out the mud? I swear too. You understand? There's that anybody who gets it out the mud. I've done this shit. I've done this shit. You understand? I had to make the advanced money that everybody got myself in these streets. You understand? So I've done this shit. So I understand getting it out the mud is difficult. You understand? Even if it's like getting signed then it's a whole nother part to it. Half these niggas not gonna make it out through. You understand? It's a whole nother part to it. This shit is difficult. If you really ain't got it, you're gonna have to learn it. If you really don't want to learn it, you ain't gonna be able to hold on to this shit for too long, you know what I'm saying? So it's simple like that. That's why I only work with people who show that they want it for themselves. So I didn't have no Spotify or nothing like that. But the kid had 15 million hits on SoundCloud. That's a lot. He was the biggest fucking thing in his high school. Kids from his high school is sending me. My little brother sent me his shit. You understand? So it's just like he wants it for himself. When I tapped in on it a year later, I look up his shit. Kid just dropped a little EP. You understand? He just dropped another little single. You want it for yourself. This shit only got 300 views, but you want it so bad you're gonna do it again. So I got you. Let me see what I can do for you. You know what I'm saying? From there we shook shit up. Nice. Yeah, that kind of consistency is really important. Even when I, as a writer, because I write for the blog too, so whenever I go to events, I'm always having people try to pitch me their music and stuff like that. Tell me that they're an artist. They try to get put onto the website. I always ask them if, one, they have a YouTube where I can find their music, and two, if they have a streaming service where I can find their music, just to see if it's accessible. And if one or both, they don't have, then there's not really much that I can do for them. It's not worth my time or theirs because they're not even investing that much time into it to have it accessible so people can find it. Exactly, they even rushed the talk of the town and they rushed to what NYC sounds like post and they rushed to this, without even having a fucking link to click on. Exactly. Yeah, it'd be crazy, you know what I'm saying? So, you know how this should go. Like I said, I'm tapping in more on the business side of things. I'm still busy blazing, you know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I'm not fighting the artist's fight straight up. Yeah. You understand? I'm not the starving artist. Like how it was. Don't get it twisted. I'm starving to be bigger in business than ever. You understand? And everything that I do than ever. I'm not playing the starving artist role. I don't need to have controversy with somebody to get on, you understand? If we have controversy, we talk about it. Talk shit back and forth, you got some shit to talk. I'ma talk that shit, you understand? Everybody know what time it is when they hit me in person. You understand? Not saying I'm on the biggest, baddest bully but they know, you understand? Blazers gonna approach you in person and have something to say to you. And also, you know, I get in a lot of different rooms. So, you know what I mean? There's no level to the shit where you're completely avoiding me if you really got shit to talk about me or something to say, you know what I'm saying? So, at the end of the day, yeah, that's all it is. You know what I'm saying? A nigga still an artist at the end of the day. A nigga still drop artist shit. A lot of fans that fuck on my music still, you know what I'm saying? It may not be the whole world, like I said. I'm still a hood inspiration. But, at the end of the day, I'm not a starving artist fighting no artist fight. You know what I'm saying? I don't need to be for you. I don't need to dance around on TikTok. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And like, especially when you're at that point, like it's not like even then, like you don't really gotta work too much like for these artists in a sense, like you can't do too much because you also have all these other, your hands in so many different pots that you're working towards, you know? So like you can only do but so much for these artists that they also gotta, they gotta want it themselves. Yeah, that's what matters. That's for everybody. And everybody that wanna be a part of this shit. The more you want it yourself, the more you'll be able to do for yourself. When things fall out, it seems fall out, other stuff fall out, you bounce right back and you stay focused on the prods because you want it for yourself more than everybody else. And you'll start to see people wanting it with you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So on the topic of like hip hop as a whole now, it's been a pretty recent thing that I've seen in a lot of the blogs. So I just wanna like ask your opinion since you're behind the scenes as well. So you have like insight to that. Hip hop been like the number one genre for a minute, but it only just recently finally got a number one album this year on the billboards, which is I think is like the longest drought ever without there being like a number one hip hop album up there. So do you think like there's a rhyme or reason for that? Who's in the album? Number one album was Uzi with pink tape. Yeah, the first number one, everyone thought it was gonna be Gunna. I think he debuted I think at number two, same thing with Thug. He was projected to do like almost 100K, but I think it dropped down to like 70 something, 80 something. So he's also number two, but then Uzi came out. He was also over here, like he's got stands. You know, he's got like a big fan base. And he said some shit talking about if you guys get this to number one, then I'll drop Love is Rage three. So there's definitely that, you know, like the stands will do the thing. Push a couple buttons. Yeah. Okay, so honestly speaking, I feel like it's cause there's a lot of running and gunning going on in the last year. You know what I mean? Like, like, and too focused on getting something to number one, we're just focused on, we know back end streaming, you know what I'm saying? Making that bread, we know certain things. Like as industry people, they know certain things make a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? And they also know things they could probably apply to it for less money and less, you know, investment to get it to making that good back end bread rather than like focused on that initial burst. You know what I'm saying? That initial like drop, like back in there for like the whole buildup used to be like focused on. Like it's build up, build up, build up, build up, drop the shit, you know what I'm saying? Make sure you get a big boom. We telling people for a month that this project about to drop. You know what I'm saying? I don't know shit like that no more. So it's like the hype on it, it's like I didn't even know Uzi dropped. If Uzi didn't have controversy with JT at the fucking BT awards, I wouldn't know he was dropping some shit. Damn. You know what I'm saying? Damn, man. Like I don't feel like the promo was out there crazy. You know what I'm saying? It was mad promo? I don't know. I see what you mean. Like do you listen? Like honestly, do you listen to Uzi shit? So I'm not gonna give an opinion on his actual project. You know what I'm saying? I haven't listened to it yet. No, I'll definitely give it a listen. But maybe on the ride, you know what I'm saying? I don't hear a type of shit. But yeah, no, I just... Yeah, Uzi is definitely... Yeah. Like it was coming through like ads and shit. No, Twitch takes our kids and loses all of it. Yeah. He like, cause he like that whole 2016 class, like the double XL freshman list that he comes from, like they, I feel like capitalized, except for a few people, capitalized on social media like really, really well because a lot of them have like those cult core fan bases that are growing up with them. Like the Pliwakati, they put up a lot of cult fanbases around them. They got it from like zombies in them and like fucking Joey Badass in them and they stopped rockin' them. They really had cult fans. You understand? This is what really carried the core of they fucking, they shit, you know what I'm saying? Because people always act like, oh, what's the last thing Rocky did? Oh, what's the last thing this person did? You know what I'm saying? It's just like, but they core. They got world fans. They got the fucking fanbase. They just kind of saved you from everything, yeah. So, oh yeah, you know what I'm saying? And I'm not heavy on TikTok and all that stuff. This part of this one is getting me to fucking back outside and jumping on all that other shit, you know what I'm saying? So I didn't know. I'm not even quite sure what Twitch is right now, but I'ma tap in, you know what I'm saying? It's like, it's kind of like, it's just like a live streaming center. Like you can have all these different like genres. Like some people just sit and chat with people. Like they'll read the chat online. Do you know who Kaisenat is? Yeah, so like he's a really big Twitch streamer too. Like he'll just go on. He'll bring people on. So he's doing a Twitch, not YouTube. Nah, his stream is on Twitch. Does he stream on Twitch or kick now? He's still on Twitch. He's still on Twitch. Because YouTube is where I see this stuff. You know what I'm saying? They chat about it when I get on Twitch. Yeah. They didn't make me download it, bro. So yeah, that's good. That's not good to me. That right there. That's good. So basically, is it like a video game thing or is it like you can sign in online? Yeah, you can put, like you can play a video game. Like let's say I'm playing Call of Duty. Like I can stream my gameplay over there, talk to people at the same time as I'm live streaming. Like that's the whole thing. Like streaming and you can stream more or less anything. Like there's some restrictions, some like stuff you can't do. Like you can gamble on Twitch for example, but others like kick or rumble you can and stuff like that. So that's what academics be on and shit. Yeah. Do that little shit and like he's in the corner of his thing talking shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like Twitch. I'll probably Twitch, yeah. Twitch is definitely popping off. Like they have their own little things like when it comes to like the money and artists and or like just streamers in general and how they make it. But yeah, that's like a whole different topic. But yeah, like that really definitely helped propel Uzi I think to number one. But yeah, I think it's a crazy contrast because you have Uzi over here making number one. But you got Coyle of the Ray who's got like some definitely label push behind her being out here having these crazy mixes on TikTok that are blowing up. But then her second album comes out and she makes what I think 10K like the first week. Man, as long as don't let that stuff bring you up and down because I actually like Coyle stuff, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do too. That's a thing. Yeah, a lot of people do, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like people not hearing it initially. Like I said, they work this stuff over and over, you know what I'm saying? But like on the back end and people eventually run into her records, you know what I'm saying? Whether they slowly expose on TikTok and stuff like that. Certain things you just don't put yourself in the same like like races to, you know, like, have those same upsets, you know what I mean? Coyle Ray has a situation. She has creativity. She has, you know what I mean? Like a true like push behind her and a team that supports her and fucks with her. And she just keep being consistent, you know what I'm saying? That's all that matter. Like don't let that 10K shit, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I should have come back in the end and she'll have a single that does way more than that. You know what I mean? Yeah, most definitely. I can definitely see the third album bounce back from that. Yeah, and that's for everybody to take that into a core tool. All these girls coming up. I know y'all, some of y'all sound shitty situation. Some of y'all sound thing. Consistency and all that shit is what matters most. All right, so we're gonna get into the last game. Let's do it. And then we'll wrap it up after. Yeah. So this one is called Finish Sentence. So I'm just gonna give you the first half and then you just respond to how you would finish it. So this first one, my friends would say that I am. Hold on, I read that weird, my bad. My friends would say that I am. My friends will say I'm absolutely fucking nuts. I'm crazy. No cap. Why's that? Just personality wise, like I said, I didn't put that shit out there. So you know, when people run into me, it moves up, so that's what I'm here to do. So if you know you know it's like. Yeah, yeah, but now I'm gonna make sure you know. So next one is, this chapter of my life is called? This chapter of my life is called Boss Up. I mean, been making Boss Smooth, but it's nothing but Boss Shit. You know what I'm saying? this man busy the business man is this chapter got you so the most underrated song on my playlist is like today yeah the most underrated song my place is today oh no blaze okay via zz.evl azee tapping on Spotify or platforms the fake busy blades on Instagram you know something yeah go stream today yeah today is what probably the most underrated and then go and turn and all that you know saying but tapping with swab a porter free swab a porter curly side is about to be next guaranteed we're pushing curly you know saying like Curly's guaranteed next like I said who else free smoky you know what I mean it's just more to come tapping with busybades I was just talking to Scarlett a little bit before you know saying yeah she buzzed off I think one of the homies one of the not one of my homies one of the causes causes you know saying like got got a situation right now but you know I mean I want to take on board honestly speaking if I had a couple little more helpful swab a porter situation I just know I'm on shit first you understand they be taped from Atlanta I was on her first like you know there's a lot of situations I'm on first so keep close you know saying that we could always make some shit happen yeah like if I can't take it I could have swung a scarlet to somebody who could have took it at the time you know saying about the DMs to prove keep this man in mind my favorite song I wrote is my favorite song I wrote right now is big brother yeah big brother big brother yeah and I got a record of R&B is called Mercy I really enjoyed that record too okay so that's favorites all right last one for this one let's do it I can't do business with you if I can't do business with you if you do not want it for yourself if you don't want to do this shit for yourself I'm not interested you understand other than that we could do business shout out to just Augusto the ones still out here running around going crazy shout out to curly salve like I said you know I'm saying free swab a porter the ones who want to do business tap in with me you know I'm saying everybody who's still out here going crazy even shout out to my young boy Q run it up you know saying show Q ended up some love like um yeah man dunk rock congratulations everybody who wanted for themselves is showing right now you know saying like straight up yeah so yeah all right so that wraps up finish the sentence busy thank you so much for coming out we really appreciate you thank you for having me of course I talk of the town I'll be back I promise y'all you know saying we're gonna spend back I said a lot of shit so I'll take the trouble with that before we sign off one last thing do we have anything to look out for on the come up from you or your artists well before we sign off tap in the busy blaze bsz dash e blz e in the link in my bio on instagram my instagram is the fake busy blaze t h e f a k e bsz e and when you tap in I got a link in my bio called Airbnb boss a beam boss class because that's what we've been doing on the boss up shit you're saying also in that link tree you're gonna see everything so how they pulled his links my my links you know saying to music but it being boss classes if you want to do business you're saying I also got my patreon for if y'all are interested in business because we're doing business with busy you're saying okay at the end of the day so let's talk you know I'm saying tap in I said I'm still having a music shit but this is you know oh so hustle talks tap me on me all right awesome busy again thank you so much thank you really appreciate it all right thank you everybody so much for tuning in to talk of the town I'm Enrique we'll see you next time gang gang