 Welcome everybody. My name is Kevin Jordan. I work for Los Angeles Unified DACE, Division of Adult Career Education. Let me tell you a little bit about myself before we get started and get going. I've really adopted this through Malcolm X. He said education is a passport to the future for tomorrow, being along to those who prepare for it today. And I truly take that that to heart. But I have 16 years experience teaching in adults, but anyway you know I'm being grade 6 to 12 as well as adults. I have a very strong 16 years teaching background, culturally diverse students, 16 years teaching adult single or multi-level ESL classes, five years teaching in citizenship with a hundred percent success success rate. In other words all the dollar by former students are now US citizens and are now voting. Five years as a distance learning coordinator through LAUSD. Two years as an integrated technology teacher advisor, ITTA. Ten plus years as a computer applications teacher. I firmly believe in integrating academics into all of my lessons. And I have a successful experience in implementing educational philosophy, teaching methods, and approaches. And I've never had a class closed because of attendance. And I'm consistently one of the highest student retention rates in every single school of which I've been employed. I believe in using the cell phone. But some of the fears though is the teacher's lost control. And you know and honestly that's actually one of the things that makes us fearful is we've somehow lost control. But you know yes sometimes texting friends and family during class is not the best use of time and I get it. But you know you got to let it you got to get over that because more students right now are using cell phones for learning and organizational. And being on the cell phone doesn't necessarily mean the students are quote off-task. So as fearful as we are we still need to remember this is a dull dead. So the way that I do it in my classrooms is I establish guidelines because I understand that working students may have a mandate that they need to keep their cell phone on even while they're in class. Parents may need to be available for calls related to children and you have to accept that. But you just establish rules and guidelines. I say I hate the word rules but I establish guidelines that if you need to take a phone call that's fine but just go ahead and take it and take it on outside. Negotiate the rules and I want to emphasize this if we come in in adult education and say this is what we're going to do then we're imposing something on them. And I think we need to look at agreed versus imposed guidelines. Some cell phone student usage examples are calendaring. My students use it to calendar if we're going to have a quiz or something the calendar it taking notes. Use an app or function for class activities such as right now in zoom. I haven't had any of my students audio record actually back up I did one of my students had broke her right hand and so she asked if she can record the record the audio so I did. As many of our students as you know many of our students use the translator. I believe in building a cohesiveness and so therefore they are encouraged to contact each other and build a kind of a contact list and this is also builds cohesiveness because again what we're trying to do is we're trying to build a community. As you see the students will use the cell phone to take a picture of the homework assignment or work assignment or things like that as you're working. Share photos when it's related to class content family vacation photos this and the other and then what you do you can use lessons with that photography that they've taken designing lessons around that or just basic web searches. So there's a lot of usages for a cell phone for the student which hopefully that we know and agree to. Now teachers using it I use my cell phone such as Kahoot Burlington English I also use it to access a LMS my learning management system and with LUSD we use Schoology. I know Canvas is out there and there's a lot of other LMS's but what I do with my LMS is I set a daily agenda on every single day and I will do it because I understand that not all of my students can come to class every single day so therefore I do hold them accountable. So in other words if they if they miss a class on a Wednesday they're still accountable for what we did on class on Wednesday but they also know how to go in and use the find the daily agenda what we're doing every single day. So the daily agenda literally the one that's on the board that you post for students is literally mirrored on the learning management system. I use it to send messages via remind. I monitor students via program called read theory that I'm going to be talking about but I've also I use the cell phone in class I'll send messages to students as an ESL speaking quiz and because if you're you know especially if you have a let's say a two and a half hour class in the evening and you're trying to get all your testing in and you have a chapter test on a particular topic or or such and you have a have a speaking quiz then all of a sudden you're going to you'll you'll literally blow out the whole quiz because the way that I do it is on my LMS the students have the quiz or after test they'll have a listening portion on the learning management system that they take all online and then I also give them the speaking quiz on remind and so I'll give them a question they had they must respond to me using their using their cell phone on remind and I actually talk about that you can set up QR codes and then let students go through like corners at corners activities where they go through and use a QR codes and then they they can they can do do web searches on the QR code alarms or timers I'll set up a timer on a speaking quiz for example or a speaking you know and they haven't do them like a like a peer-to-peer speaking and I'll have them give them like three minutes as a back and forth and back and forth and then the timer tells everybody to stop augmented reality which is something I'm now exploring I take attendance through my through the cell phone on my we have a program called DASIS over at LAUSD but I do take attendance a lot of times on my cell phone that way I don't have to go back to my desk go back behind my computer and in other words essentially move away from my students I can still as students are doing board work or coursework or doing worksheets to say on the other I can I can take attendance right there in there I can project topics from my phone via Bluetooth to an overhead projector which is phenomenal I'm sending an email also this the cell phone usage as you many of you know that you can send a quick text message for example if you're stuck and you need to go to the restroom you need a faculty member to come in to your classroom hold it hold your classroom for five minutes while you while you run to the restroom and use that as well I believe that technology in the classroom encourages literacy and literacy I think is a big portion of what we need for our students to move forward whether it be ESL, ABE, CTE there's a literacy gap that we're still trying to close our ESL students use I encourage my students to send me messages via remind and I always respond to them if they make an if they make a grammatical error what I will do is I will respond to them but I'll also give them the grammatical error correction so they know how to do it the next time it'll actually help your mainstream students special needs are at risk and these are some of the programs that I use in my classroom I use remind Kahoot Burlington English and also the program called Read Theory which again which I'll talk about first 20 minutes of class I use my cell phone with my students I use it for Kahoot for example what I will do is I will set up a Kahoot quiz I will send it out to me sent five minutes before the class starts because what I want to do is I want to set up a bell to bell schedule that my students know that at eight o'clock my my class starts actually five minutes before because remember we're still trying a lot of our times we're still trying to prepare our students for the world of work so if we're teaching the world of work you don't want them to be late so five minutes before so they get to their they move out of your program they go on to the workforce and they're they're at their at their job five minutes before guess what they're never they're never late but if you so you start teaching a bell to bell teaching for students and you start setting up guidelines and boundaries and yes I even do this during the lockdown is what we got going on right now with our with our students on zoom I will schedule a zoom meeting with my students from let's say 10 to 11 30 but I will send them a quick Kahoot quiz and it'll be like five questions or so it'll be set up to go to them at 9 55 for example and then it's about a 10 minute quiz and so when they start to come into the into the zoom into the zoom meeting then they've already got their quizzes so that way we can actually talk about it and so it's a nice blend to move on to to what to whatever you're getting you know you're going into extended usage of remind I love this feature on remind remind if you click on the remind application and as if you're going to compose a message there's a little button that when you're going to compose the message to your class you've got camera you can use the gallery in other words your pictures on your phone or a voice clip and I love the voice clip the voice clip features send out or quizzes messages with a personal touch and then you can record an audio if I'm not mistaken I think it's about 10 to 15 seconds that you can that you can record the audio and then you can send it out as a attached message again this is also how I do the in ESL how I do the speaking quizzes because I because I know the best part the students can respond using this technique as well they get the message they can respond back to you via the same via the same way they click on respond they can click on the voice clip they can click on the record button attach it and it'll come back to you as a message and then what you can do as the instructor is you can grade their quote speaking quiz and you can give them give the student immediate feedback and I want to emphasize when you do this be sure that you that you set up the guidelines as to how the students are going to be graded on the on the speaking quiz don't just give it to them just open but if you give it to them as this is what this is what an A looks like or B or C or D whatever you give them the guidelines of what they're looking for and you can actually score them in accordance with your you know with your promotional tests for example and you can do this on a chapter quiz you can do this for just a regular quiz and this is a great response because again because of teaching ESL many of our students are looking for ways to improve their their pronunciation and their speaking ability because that's actually one of the biggest gripes of our students is a particular ESL is they don't do enough speaking so during this time of the lockdown we can still give them speaking quizzes Kahoot I love Kahoot if you notice I what I've done on this on talking about Kahoot what I've done is I've actually upgraded to the premium version because it allows me to create my own I I look at Kahoot and I've looked at Kahoot and everything I've seen from Kahoot are that I would even consider are from colloquialisms from other parts of the world that may not apply to my students on a Kahoot quiz for example if you there's a little button where you can click on discover if you click on discover what it will do is you can type in a for example adjectives for example and it'll give you adjectives but it'll be a Kahoot quiz if somebody maybe from the United Kingdom created and when the creator made that quiz they were referred to the to their to the flat now if I told my students a flat that you're gonna you know name the best part of your flat or whatever my students would not understand what I'm talking about and I'm having to explain a flat verse and verses and apartment and I don't want to have to do that so I my recommendation is Kahoot upgrade to the premium I understand right now during the lockdown if you go in through Kahoot you can your option actually automatically upgraded to the premium version and you can actually make your end in your and you make your own highly recommended and I believe that's the way to go because it's designed your Kahoot are designed for how you want to teach your class I I just believe in making making your own some other extended uses of Kahoot what I do is on my LMS I will post to have a posting and I'll say please post your Kahoot score here then the students take the Kahoot quiz then they then they post their score up on on the on the LMS again for us we use we use school G for Los Angeles Unified but they will use they'll put their score on Kahoot for my students I tell my students they sometimes they are embarrassed about the score and I tell them look it's especially ESL it's not really about the score and I don't really I'm not really worried about the score I mean I kind of am but everything else will take care of itself but I what I'm looking for is an ability for the students to communicate and I believe the students to communicate is reading writing listening speaking and also digital communication the ability for your ESL students to digitally communicate and post a score on an LMS is huge and this is going to be another form of communications so I believe in in doing that and having your students post their scores what I do is when they post their scores good bad and different I always like they're on on the school of G there's a way to like the posting and I always like the posting again I don't care if they got a 2000 on a on a on a Kahoot quiz but they got a 10,000 I like the 2000 as well as the 10,000 because the idea particularly ESL I want my students to have an ability to post and I think this is a it's a digital literacy skill that our students need Burlington I love the Burlington application on the cell phone I believe I love their speaking ability if you want to install the application then you go to your site there's a way we can click on vocabulary practice and you click on the desired course my students because I'm teaching beginning high what I do is I do English in America beginners or everyday English too on the beginning on on the Burlington English the reason why course it just because it fits and then it'll come up with a screen that they'll have wordless on the on the cell phone it does have a feature that I really like this designed for contrast and and size of the text so what I've done this have taken a screenshot of the students Burlington English cell phone on the lower right-hand corner when they go through the vocabulary practice everyday English too on the lower right-hand corner it'll be looks like an orange button and it has three lines if you click on that the student will see things that they can do with the 25 words they can match the sound fill in the blank match the translation and again it also has the looks like the disabled placard sticker that you can that you can use and what it'll do is you can if you click on it you can click on it you can you can adjust the size or the contrast now in Burlington English on the teacher side I can mimic the students phone which is wonderful because in the classroom I can use it for like prepare for classes virtual class schedule or if you have a student that's having problems with the with the cell phone or with the Burlington application you can actually yeah I walk around I carry my cell phone with me all the time like most of us do you can you can work you can literally work with the student hand-in-hand and show them with your cell phone on how to how to how to use whatever you're trying to teach them whether it be the readers or prepare for classes or the speaking portion virtual class schedule or I love this feature that Burlington put you put in on the phone because what it does is allows you to set up a zoom conference and then you can schedule online lessons via zoom WebEx Microsoft teams go to meeting or Adobe connect because of the zoom with the Los Angeles Unified it's a it's a correlation that Los Angeles Unified has with zoom always use of mine with zoom now with my students again this is the feature that I was talking about the arrow points to the little disabled placard if you will and allows you to adjust contrast or a larger text and I love that feature read theory this is my go-to great for reading this is a web-based program no applications necessary this is a phenomenal program it teaches how the students to read and think critically again being in my 16th year one of the things I've always been looking at after probably about my second or third year teaching is teaching my students how to think critically I want to teach them not to just try to get the answer one time and be happy I want them to keep you think critically in order to to advance and grow their their their learning capabilities read theory is another great first 20 minutes a classroom thing that you can do with your students again it's web-based it's easy to log in for the student the students and the teachers contract progress so the student contract their own progress and also can be done on the phone very easily and you so you don't you don't have to check out the laptop cart you don't have to check out the iPad cart you don't have to go to the computer lab you can do it on their phone and this is phenomenal because most of our students have carry carry the cell phone with us we've done a Los Angeles Unified every year does a survey does a technology survey that states the most recent findings was that 92% of all of our students in Los Angeles Unified in the adult education program 92% of all of our students have a smartphone so I started looking at that and breaking it down and so out of a class of 25 you've got 22 out of a class of 25 you got 22 students that have a smartphone that is huge so I mean yes you need to address those other three and I get it but it but we're closing the gap and the gap is closing dramatically so students want people want to know about read theory and and honestly I wish I was really smart but I don't think I'm not I don't think I really am but what I what I am is I listen and I talk to teachers I talk to other teachers I talked to because I teach a level two beginning high I talked to the level six teacher I talked to the to the reading class teacher and I ask them what can I do in level two to help my help my students prepare for your class so not only am I trying to get my students out of my out of the level two on to the level three I'm looking at moving them all the way through to the level six program in Los Angeles Unified we have what they call the tape test TABE the tape test and it is a reading test that the students have to take and they must it's a 25 questions 25 minutes and 50 and 50 paragraphs test the lot of students do not pass the first time around and they need to read at the ninth-grade reading level so this program it's a web again red web base there's no applications necessary it goes from K-12 all the way to adult education ABE read theory serves all of them it's also perfect for reinforcing English as a second language is for CTE it doesn't CTE has technical writing and technical reading and I understand that you can use it in a CTE class but it's a different kind of reading but what it will do is it will teach your students how to think critically what you need to be able to in a CTE class you need those students need to to be able to think critically to be successful in that in that CTE class so tell me a little bit more well the growing database fits every level of reading it guarantees that the student will never get bored it haven't has enough text for year-round reading comprehension practice and including home practice again because it is web-based they can take quizzes or give written response to passages so in for example in level two I want them to read and then take a quiz I've talked to level four five and six teachers ESL as well as reading teachers and they have the students do the do the written responses to passages so it's adaptive to your students based on your level again it's a I cannot say enough good things about this it gives lexile levels it gives reading levels I think you can track it it it's adaptive and it caters to the individual's needs so what in read theory what the student does is they log in they have to take roughly 10 I think it's 10 quizzes at the end of the 10 quizzes then what it'll do is it'll place them in the appropriate level wherever they are lexile level reading level grade level etc and it'll build on that so if you're teaching a even a level one class level one ESL the student can log in take the quiz take the 10 quizzes and then let's say they're reading at the first grade level well the first quiz that they take will be at the third grade level every every quiz starts at the third grade level and then as each quiz is either they do well or poorly on that quiz then it'll be needed to go up or down for the student so the the second quiz that they do poorly on the first quiz this the second quiz will go to the second grade level then the first grade level then the second grade level the third grade level so on and so forth and then you can track the students growth over time I always challenge and this is something that I challenge my students with is there there's I understand that you can do 999 quizzes but I always challenge my students to to do the 999 and then take one more than tell me what happens it is kind of a it's a fun challenge I don't know what happens when you reach number 1000 I don't know and so I want them to do the 999 and then take take one more but here's my thinking I mean yes it's fun yes I can have the students do that but when they but but now I've given them a goal to do 999 quizzes and take the one more and then come back to me and tell me and then of course that keeps that student involved engaged and moving forward on the program is it easy to use oh yes easy peasy lemon squeezy you can create an account and it's easy and you can add students as easy as one two three you as well as students can use it on a cell phone if you don't feel comfortable technology but still like to use read theory reach out to their support team they have a very responsive support team it usually well I haven't tried to use the support team during the lockdown because of everything going online but prior to this if I needed to respond to them if I send an email in the morning for example I'll have a response from the from the read theory support team in in the afternoon so there's really rapid response so if I had a question with a student on a student account let's say nine o'clock in the morning I'm a quick email on this 14 by 2 3 o'clock in the afternoon I'll actually have the response and so then the next morning I can go in and I can tell the students as to what's going on or what I do is once I get that get that question answered what I will do I will send a message via remind on my cell phone to let them know as to what's going on because it's the idea that that I keep my students engaged at all times in my class I believe I full heart wholeheartedly believe that it's a 24-7 again tracking progress absolutely the student can and you can you can I did you can easily identify strongly students and also high performers this will also allow you as they instructor that if you want to do pairing for example you're doing let's say you're teaching ESL and you're doing a speaking practice what you can do is you can take you can you can now identify your high-level readers and you can pair them accordingly you can have Karina with Janet or Jeanette and you can have them do a do a speaking practice because you know that the reading level is very very similar on based on what you see on on read theory so this is there's a lot of back channel that you can use to to help and work with students you can analyze performance on the individual level in the class all texts are accurately aligned to grade level standards and a lot so measure measure is provided for each now many years ago I taught a taught a reading program in the K-12 and and it was all about Lexiles and students they had to pick books and online material based on their Lexile level like their little scale but you can you can pass this on now you can also trust the student performance matrix and metrics and the reading level now the thing that I use with my students is the thing I use with my students is when we're working on the Lexile levels and and going from let's say level two into level three on an ESL classroom for example or they're promoting from four to five or five to six past the codes get had the students on then what you do is is it I don't know if you're like me but what I've done is I will work with the level level three teacher the day before the the last day of class what I will do is I will bring my class over to him and then what he will do is he will he will have my class and then I'll work with students and my students and their students to have everybody transfer from my class to his class by adding the the class code there's a class code that what you can do is you can transfer back and forth and so that the student does not have to start over and I don't believe that the student wants to start over I don't I don't I don't want a student to have to start over and create a brand new account and all this kind of thing let them just keep going because when you've also with read theory when you go from one level to the next level for example ESL what you're able to do is you're actually able to give the the new teacher let's say a three or four or five or they're like the next level up teacher you're actually able to give that teacher something to look at so that they understand more about your students each and every one of your students as a walking in the door and what's going to do is it's going to cut down the time of that next level teacher to to so that he or she does not have to analyze your students and figure out where they are on the reading level this the the speaking level or the the reading level the writing level etc they have all that information and all that data on so I highly recommend if you use read theory to get the next level up teacher or the next promotional level teacher or you whoever they're going to go to or work with collaborate with that person and let them also get involved on this program I this is a wonderful wonderful program because I believe in in a nice my idea my ideal is you when they go from my class to the next level you want a very easy handoff I'm gonna give you one more tech tip because you all are busy you are a busy teacher there's a program called CC cleaner get that for your phone because what it'll do is it'll help clean your cache memory keep your phone running smoothly there's a free version and a paid version and I've got the free version and I put up a picture of what it looks like there's a scheduler there's a booster where you can boost your boost your performance of your phone an advisor like an app advisor if you have apps on your phone that are that are idle it'll actually tell you there's an app manager you can hibernate photo optimizer if you have some photos on your phone that are not as that are that are not you have duplications on phone it'll actually help you to eliminate delete it'll optimize the memory on your phone you can analyze your storage cloud transfers that plot transfers system info I believe is on the paid version but what I use is the scheduler the booster the advisor and the app manager and the photo advisor I use a free version I I don't have to pay for it I don't I don't want to pay for it unless unless I absolutely have to but that's your tech tip for the day Melinda I'm gonna let you take it away okay Kevin we have a few questions in the the Q&A here so I'm gonna start up here if remind only let you record 10 to 15 seconds how do you put a full quiz on it and let's start with do you put a full quiz on it with remind what I do is I don't put an actual full quiz and what I will do is I will put one question on per time and I'll have like three questions and what I will do is I send them out a quiz have them respond I'll send them out another quiz have them respond I mean yes you are gonna have a series of questions but particularly for the chapter tests what I'll do is I'll put one two maybe three questions and that's it on your on your chapter quiz because the chapter quizzes we use the book side-by-side and side-by-side has some questions they have a series of like five or ten questions I'll literally what I will do is I will I don't want to have all have all ten questions I want to pick two or three two or three or four of the best ones the ones that align with the with the promotional test the best okay how do you use Kahoot in remote teaching how do I use Kahoot with remote teaching as I I create my own quizzes I send them out to my students and then what I will have them do they take the quiz then they have to put their scores on the learning management system okay do you ever have students that do not have a phone I have not had one that's not had a phone actually back up I did have one student that had one phone that was that he was having problems with it but it's a case-by-case basis and it's so it it happens yes but it's very rare here's what I've learned that if you have through the state of California as I understand it if you have an adult student adult that has a small child they can be given a phone by the state of California and generally that phone is a is a Android it's a Samsung for example like the latest is the 10 plus they might get the Samsung 7 Android phone for free because it's designed for the the parent so that he or she can have access to making a phone call in the event of a 911 emergency so most students will have a phone of some sort it's just a case-by-case basis though okay does read theory have a listening component or is there only reading in quizzes read theory is only reading it does not have a listening component it's all just it's all a reading component and I and I look at the the listening component I look at Burlington English they have they have the Burlington English readers I will do other listening exercises I'm actually starting to explore a couple of the programs but but Burlington English the readers is phenomenal for the for the listening exercise there were a couple of chats and Q&As regarding Burlington English is that a free tool or a pay tool how much does it cost and if it is a pay tool and do they have anything free going on during this time the Burlington English is done through Los Angeles Unified I would talk to your administrator and start asking your administrator about Burlington English do they have anything that's free right now I'm not for sure I do know they have a lot of free webinars right now that you can sign up and you can use the webinars for free I know you go to Burlington English calm and then I would say explore it as to if they have anything free right now don't know that'd be a Burlington English question but I would talk to your administrator to ask about Burlington English they they have their their support has been phenomenal we have a dedicated Los Angeles Unified has a gentleman by the name of Matt Huffine here in here in Los Angeles and he's dead he is dedicated to Los Angeles Unified for us and he has been phenomenal if you send him an email or text message he goes through he does a lot of webinars but Burlington English is a district program it's not an individual class okay dope what do you need back to read theory what do you need to add students email cell number how do you do that the way that I do it I actually have it'll be on the OTAN website there is a how-to for read cool is there is a cell phone number really you you there is a you will need like a backup email address just in the event that the that that this if for example if the student loses their loses their login information they can they can recover it without sending you a remind but the way that I do it because I have such an open communication and I believe my classroom is 24 7 for my students if a student sends me a message let's say on a Saturday morning it let's say 8 o'clock on a morning Saturday morning but it's an evening class money through Thursday something like that you know what I'll go ahead and respond because my idea especially during this time is that if I if I have my students involved in my classroom on a Saturday morning that's awesome that's wonderful that tells me that my students are involved in my classroom and then therefore it's going to help your student read read read attention rate so if they send me a message on a Saturday morning on remind absolutely but the answer to your questions I actually have the a how-to on read theory that will be on the OTAN website okay we've got a lot of questions about the cc cleaner and you've still got the screen up there is that specific to Android or can it be downloaded and installed on iPhone as I understand there's a cc cleaner for iPhone as well I do have an Android the publisher I've got it I also have cc cleaner on my laptops okay do you know the publisher I don't know the public I was there's a there's Stanley areas our ITST sorry internet technology service technician introduced me to cc cleaner and I've been I've been a fan since and it looks like Stanley just typed in the chat it's by piriform P I R I F O R M for the so for the iPhone users look it up by publisher if you're not finding it just by typing in cc cleaner Kevin I think oh we have the CASIS NRS level lexile correlations Jill you type that in and I'm not sure which app you were referring to could have been read theory would have been read theory because read theory is based on lexiles and grade levels and I hope I'm thinking that answers a question okay I'm cleaner cleaner cleaner I'm looking through I think Kevin I think that answers the questions if anybody has anything more they can certainly put it in the Q&A or can I add one more success absolutely everybody on read theory I had one of my students and this is a huge success sorry for me I had one of my students that for la usd she was at level 2b trying to go to level 3 her writing met met the standard to go to level 3 her speaking was spot on if she was ready for level 3 her listening skill was was great she did very well she passed all the listening tests and such for level 3 but a reading level was very very low and so I talked to the level 3 teacher because I'm a big collaborator collaborator I believe in open communication between me and the next level teacher so what I did was I talked to her and said hey this is where she is on the reading level she had like a 210 on the CASA score and she we needed like a 216 reading level and so I said to her I told my student that I'm gonna hold her back on this on on for this trimester because I need her to get her reading level up because her reading level is not ready for level 3 so this is really my first dive in you know dive in the pool and here we go on read theory I told her I said here's what I want you to do I need you to do anytime anywhere that you have five minutes pull out your phone I want you on read theory if you have a question I want you to send me a text message on on remind but I need you to do quizzes on read theory well 225 230 quizzes later at the end of the next trimester she hit 216 on the CASA's reading level and she passed on the reading level and therefore I was able to promote her to level 3 so it is a lot of work for the students but it will help and it raised her CASA score from 210 to 216. Okay and I have Mariano Rodriguez also mentions esl-lab.com is also a great site it has free listening and reading activities for ESL students oh okay there we go what if some of your students are not on your LMS and may never be do you just use our do you do everything with them in remind no all of my students are on are on are on on the LMS there's there's no option see because Los Angeles Unified has has adult education email addresses I put my students on the on the on the LMS via their their school email address because Los Angeles Unified uses uses School of G on the LMS and my students are on 100% are on the LMS if they're going to be in my classroom they're going to be in my well before the lockdown if they're going to be in my seat they're going to be on the LMS period and there's there's really really really no option because I will help them to get on the program if they don't have the students that are still learning how to navigate the cell phone I'll have them on Chromebook or have them on an iPad but I will they will be on the LMS in the event that those same students at home what I do is I will I'll have a zoom class then I'll take that PDF document and I'll send it out send the document out to the student via remind but but bottom line is when they take their take their chapter tests and I've been actually this is now the second or third year that I've done this when they take a chapter test they take the chapter test on the on the LMS so that way I have a graded score because the way I look at it is I have on in ESL if I have a student that's borderline but they do but they're doing but they're doing but they're but their scores but all of our chapter chapter quizzes are high scores in other words 85% 80 85% basically a B or A or B on the chapter quiz but they're borderline on the promotional test then it gives me an opportunity to take that information take that take that data take that information I will take that over to the next level teacher and say hey look I'm looking at Susanna Gomez for example and she's borderline on the on the on the promotional test but her scores on the LMS chapter quizzes are very very high so now what what would you like for me to do would you like me to go ahead and send her on or should I hold her back on the converse side if I have a student that's borderline on the promotional test but does very low very low score on the on the LMS quizzes chapter tests etc. I'm not going to send them I'm not even going to entertain to take that student to the next level teacher so I use those those LMS tests and quizzes for promotion and and this is this is good for that borderline for those borderline students okay to address because there's quite a few people that unfortunately don't have the perks that la USD does and they don't have LMS and they don't have district emails so folks we haven't forgotten about you there are a lot of other options that you can connect to your students still using the tools that that Kevin showed you and Anthony I'm gonna have you come on and I believe we have a cell phone guide from West Contra Costa that is now available on the OTAN site and this might help some of you teachers along with and Anthony give me one sec here there are a lot of different platforms that you don't need an LMS you could use Padlet you could use Google sites which you could use there's so many tools out there that OTAN has been trying to get as many of these webinars out there to you so you can look at them and decide which one you want to use just watch the webinars watch or ask us directly using support at OTAN.us and we'll send you in all kinds of different directions and Anthony I'm gonna let you take it over from here we're gonna do the housekeeping and close the meeting after that