 Hong Kong pop star Coco Li has taken her own life at the age of 48 now This also follows a lot of other Asian stars that have recently taken their life as well And a lot of people are asking questions such as like how do you actually stop this and why is this happening for sure? RIP Coco Li for the people who don't know she was almost like the Britney Spears of the Chinese speaking world You know in the late 90s. She had this US billboard chart hit do you want my love in 1999? I always remember that one and Yeah, a lot of people are just wondering what's going on And because this sort of comes on the heels of a lot of people from from various media platforms in Asia That have also followed the same path, right? Yeah, so we're gonna go through the comment section There's a lot of different thoughts out there But we also want to give our own thoughts as well and kind of give a little bit more details About what's going on, but yeah, please hit that like button check out other episodes of the hot-pot boys as we get into this Yeah, I mean I think anytime somebody who is a big pop star passes away and or especially in this tragic way you know There's a lot of speculation right especially about the drama and the messiness she was going through a messy divorce You know with this guy Bruce Rockowitz who you know a lot of people don't know was he a billionaire? Was he a fake billionaire who had more money was it actually Cocoa was it him because now he's contesting the will and of course It turns into a lot of like Internet going against the people that they're blaming it on right, but it's unclear I'm sure it didn't help, but nobody knows what was the the factors when it goes into something so extreme like this Yeah, I mean I think Details aside, which I think there could be so many different holes that you dig you can go down the rabbo You can try to be the internet cheating you could be the internet investigator You could be the internet detective and try to pick these things up Oh, well this happened and then she made this post and I think that one thing you have to realize is no matter How rich and famous you are and no matter almost what you do? Anybody is capable of doing this of taking their own life like people at all different levels Poor people that aren't famous to rich people who are very famous have done it So I guess what it's so hard, but I think the key is like you having Strong mind and having good people around you and usually those things are the things that are lacking But I do think you know she was famous from the time she was 18 until still famous at 48 That's not a regular life to live though No, I mean listen Britney Spears was famous ever since she was a kid and she had that crazy mental breakdown I'm sure tons of people thought and thought that she would take her own life. Obviously now she's recovered She's kind of being like somewhat of a regular person now, but yeah It is a it is a lot to weigh on you, you know, and especially I do think it might affect, you know Even women more, you know being famous for decades, you know, I'm specifically Andrew she was going through Surgeries on her leg that was designed to correct a birth defect. She had breast cancer You know, I guess there were some things within vitro that weren't working because she was trying to have a kid But it didn't work for a number of years and obviously I guess that opportunity had passed. I mean We got to get into the comments section, but a few quick thoughts are Andrew There's this saying that somebody put me on too recently that said, you know, there are happy mouses in sad tigers You know, I think people look at people who quote-unquote have it all because she had money and she had fame But a lot of people don't understand Especially if you got the money through entertainment, there's a lot of pressure that comes along with that too Yeah, and also for sure and especially if you're kind of like fan centric And you know if you're always relying on fans to pick you up and and the fans say good things about you But sometimes fans can also say horrible things about you So then that if you put your self validation into what fans say Then you are also subject to that and letting that affect how you feel about yourself But anyways, let's get into the comment section because I think that a lot of different people know Information or we're bigger fans of her than than we were so so like let's get to see what they're saying Somebody said this is so heartbreaking no matter how successful a person looks on the outside We never know the demons that they are battling behind closed doors That is why it is important to take care of your mental health seek help and check up on your loved ones Depression looks different for everyone. Yeah, I think it's very easy to just say check up on people And oh you got to get mental help. You got to get therapy. I think those things are very easy I think that at the end of the day like having a strong will and a strong soul and a strong mind about yourself is It takes more than just like some therapy sessions. It kind of takes your whole system around you I don't think you can just uh, you know, I'm not an expert in this at all But it's probably takes a whole life change like let's just say life is made out of ten parts It probably takes a change to more than just one out of the thing If you don't have that around you and you need like a remedy for something for your depression I'm sure it's gonna it's gonna come out and more extreme But certainly depression is no joke guys and I don't care who what there's a lot of people who have accomplished a lot of things in life Andrew very successful whether it's in business or this field or that field who suffer from depression. That is clear Um, somebody said sad thing is that mental health is very overlooked in being raised Asian I mean we've talked about this before is it true That mental health is like not looked after however Andrew in American media and entertainment whether we're talking about Bourdain or Robin Williams or even back to Marilyn Monroe or like James Dean There's been a history of Taking your own life through depression as well. Yeah. Yeah, and I think also I wouldn't doubt that social media has to play into this or You know Sometimes some people even feel like Like oh like other famous people do it so like, you know, that's a way to go out Somebody said she should have looked for true love instead of just going with the billionaire Of course, these are the judgy comments that sort of come out in there I don't know. I was not I didn't keep up with like any of the gossip until these stories started coming out I mean Michelle. Yo is married to a billionaire. I feel like she's gonna be fine People were just sort of memorializing her dude. I grew up in Thailand in the 2000s She was bigger than Brittany to us man She was just the king queen of late 90s Asian pop especially, you know, mixing it with the English and in language stuff Somebody said man She was more like Christina Aguilera because she did the Mandarin version of Reflections when Mulan the Disney one came out And somebody said sometimes professional help will solve the issue But sometimes it will not and a lot of people were talking about ideation versus follow through because the truth is Andrew a lot of People probably at some point in their life have contemplated suicide, right? Yeah, like of the general population. Yeah, even Tupac said he did, you know, a lot of people a lot of people have Yeah, um, somebody said I hope that she found the piece that she was looking for and of course This turned into a whole you know debate about whether it's the right thing to do wrong thing to do If you are at a point where you cannot find any further, you know what I mean like what what is the morality in it, right? Right, I mean I would say It'd be probably worse to hurt other people out of depression, you know But yeah, this is a pretty this obviously one of the most extreme things you could possibly do somebody said the eyes never lie They are the window to the soul Yeah, I do think the eyes are more telling oftentimes than the smiles though because the smiles you can kind of fake a smile But it's hard to fake the look in your eyes, but definitely yeah I don't know if that what the science is behind this, right? Somebody said it could be hormonal too because when women go through menopause, you know, there's a depression relatable I do think that a lot of stuff is Hormonal too though like a lot of we're not unless you go to medical school or you take classes on it You are not like trained to understand the the multitude of chemicals that make up a brain well I mean honestly when you start to look at all the factors and Whether or not these are true or not I mean it seems like there's a lot of elements coming together, you know That could be kind of sad like given everything that we just said that what based on what people know about Her life and then not to mention the details that we don't know about her life You know, yeah Somebody said maybe medicine helps or maybe it hurts though because a lot of people are debating right now and about you know You know it goes into a whole debate in the Western War right now about big pharma And whether people should be on drugs or not drugs or because a lot of people date You know how we're talking about earlier about shifting all ten aspects of your life a lot of people They're like oh just keep all those the same and then you take a pill and then people are also talking about like what type of drugs Like are we talking about the less regulated ones like a shrooms or something? That's supposed to make you more like euphoric or like give you a different sense of being, you know things like that could that have helped I don't know. Yeah, somebody said man I had wished they had access to drugs like shrooms in Asia or at least weed possibly I think um, you know guys Like I said, I'm not a subject matter expert. I would say Allowing certain things is so tough to say and or because probably for some people it could help their situation But if you institute some sort of like mass allowance of certain things some people who are allowed access to those things It's gonna hurt their situation because each of these issues is so incredibly individual That's what I think somebody says how come it seems like there's such a rise of addiction and mental health issues Society in 2023 seems broken. Um, do you think this is just a media cycle Andrew? Or there is something legitimately wrong about the times that we're in is it social media because like we said this is not just Isolated to one region. I mean, it's all of Asia. It's all of East Asia in particular But a lot of stars whether you're talking about drama singers, etc. Etc. Yeah I think a lot of famous people who have been in the public eye and kind of are these people who want to leave a legacy I think sometimes it's easy that it could cross your mind like hey Well, what would happen if I took my own life if I died right now like how would my legacy be left? And I think that I Think anybody can think about suicide But I think particularly if you're famous you're thinking about your legacy and what do people act like or think like after you're gone And you know a lot of people think like that there's been a lot of songs about that too Somebody said one piece of advice that I actually learned is that you just have to talk to somebody and just bring it up directly Asking them. Hey, are you thinking of killing themselves? Studies have shown this does not increase the risk that they'll do it But it does increase the risk that they will tell you that something is going on So basically somebody said I want to just use this as an opportunity to let everybody know you should normalize bringing it up Yeah, no, I do think even if you think someone is having thoughts of killing someone else and you bring it up to him Be like, hey, are you thinking about killing somebody and then they're like, oh shoot? Well, maybe if it's that obvious Consciously people are like dropping hints Yeah, I think so. I'm not sure man I'm not a psychologist But it seems like people would rather drop hints and make it kind of like mysterious But if you kind of call it out and it brings it up to the public then people are like, oh, oh It's almost like shining a light on it and then everything scrambles away. Like we said guys everybody's situation is it's Maybe perhaps, you know, my general takeaway is this like I Think we can all look at these things her divorce. Oh, she didn't exercise enough. Oh, she didn't do yoga enough She didn't meditate enough. Oh, she wasn't really just oh, she needed like a lot of people were saying Oh, man, if you work at an animal shelter that has been shown to be the number one suicide She didn't save enough kids all these factors we could look at and kind of give it a percentage and guess about it in our minds But some people are maybe just gonna like they're just like I don't know if you can fully stop this, you know Oh, because it's been a part of actually society for forever. Yeah as long as written history goes I think whether it's you know people in the royal court or high-profile people in any world Yeah, but the best way is to have mental health checkups along the way You know, I think you can't check up on someone when it's too late when they're already nine out of ten ten out of ten They're already like, you know older. It's almost like her whole rise up People gotta be checking, you know, and then it's still even then you never know what's going what's going through someone else's brain So I think that's the hardest thing about it I do believe people are normalizing in Andrews something that sort of shocked me And I know was viewed as very taboo in the NBA world Andrew John Wall recently came out and said that he had contemplated Taking his own life. Yeah, and that's super something you would not think that John Wall would say. Yeah No, some other NBA players had said that they they suffered from depression too. Kevin Love, right? Yeah, Kevin Love, Jamar Drozan I think that You know, I think it takes a lot of courage especially to talk about that as an athlete because it makes you sound weak But even as a pop star, you know, a lot of people don't want to mention that A lot of people just want to put on that public image like I'm strong, you know, I do it for my fans You don't want to be vulnerable But sometimes I do think you know when you feel like people are being overly dramatic Sometimes that's what their way of saying. Hey guys, I've thought about it But the way that it's publicly sounding is like it's a cry for attention Because you know what I mean how some fans might look at her being depressed as a cry for attention But it could just be her releasing also her thoughts about it as well So then you never know because as a fan are you judging it? Are you judging it? Like oh, they're just doing that for attention and they want everybody to feel bad for them or oh wow This is actually a real thing, right? It's very very difficult to judge. I do think being a star in Asia You are and I'm not saying that this played into it all But I do know the structure of being a star in Asia and or is different than being a star in the West Like you almost have to be a really good role model in the East versus in the West There's a little bit more room to be like I guess what self-destructive. Yeah. Yeah, I would say so Yeah, I mean, what do you think about the final comment that people were just like saying, you know Obviously, there was a lot of people in the comments again Man all these people that seem like they have it all like they're rich and they're famous They're in all these elite circles of you know this owner of this company or something like that and But yeah, it clearly goes to show you like I said earlier like it's not about just like How much money you have in the bank or how high your status is right if you're unhappy. Yeah, I think that I Don't those things don't truly make you happy and happy for a long term and happy is dude happy's just a feeling man like you kind of have to have a larger mission and Whether that's having kids or that's having a charity or having some type of other mission besides just music and being rich or being famous or being pretty or or being like Having all this attention then this I would say that those things more bring dopamine than they do Long-term it's not about feeling happy. You can take a bunch of drugs and feel happy, right? Because you can force even your Saratone and receptors open to dump and you have to feel purposeful usually people with a purpose and I mean, but it also can be a hormonal imbalance inside your brain. I think it's so different like I said person-to-person I'm not a subject matter expert. I'm not trying to pass judgment, you know at all I'm just trying to bring it up and one thing that I would think that would really help Andrew in Asia specifically is if there was a Different way to explain mental health. There wasn't so necessarily, you know how like the Western version is all about like Explaining it through these terms that I think a level is a lot of very hard for Asians to understand I think a more technical understanding of more valves and different chemicals wouldn't help Asians understand Oh, you mean like you know, it's not gonna be like this flowery read like seven books version and go because Asians The culture is different. Yeah, you mean like you want to hear some more Scientific remedies. That's what even resonates with me more than you know, the other style So anyway guys, let us know what you think in the comment section below Of course keep it respectful Do you think that Asians need to look more into mental health specifically for the celebrities in the media or just in society in general? And of course, let us know what is your favorite moment of Coco Lee in the comments section below But of course our main goal is to always have a takeaway for the community and you know, just so everybody can like Have take away something from this RIP until next time we to hop up boys. We out. Peace