 I don't want to introduce them as they're smiling ever, you know, the faces are there and they tip, you know, awesome guys to have you. Thank you. Right next to me is another one, Muthoni in Jiroge. Yes. Karebusana. Santisana. So excited about this money. Yes, I am. Yes, you are. Right, right. Over three days I said we have Joshua Jumbo. Is that so? Who is the head of marketing? Yes. Karebusana. Asante. Jove, as always. As always. Yes. Okay, so, right next to her we have Tunu Matilda. Yes. Who is important, happens to be a member of the spellcaster. Yes. You must welcome. Thank you very much. I love your hairstyle. Thank you. Looks so cool. Yeah, atopio neza. Very nice. Right, that's nice. I love the way you guys are so cool in this morning. You know, it doesn't look like a morning, it looks like it's in Kitu Sasa 12, you know, when people are now diesel-ish role, you know, K to the system. Oh, you are so much welcomed. Let me begin with Joshua. Spellcast does so much of guys of dancing, song writing and all this kind of stuff. Yes. It's a huge thing that you guys are doing. What is something that are really outstanding in all this? I think the biggest thing that's outstanding for Spellcast is that it gives an opportunity to the youth to be able to grow in their talents, yes. Because we are an arts media arts company, we do performing arts, musicals. We act, we sing their models there, the guys who write scripts, their models, as I said. So it gives everyone an opportunity to be themselves, that's number one. Then again we are not only ourselves, but we are also a family. I think when you come and see us during rehearsals, you will see how in tune we are with each other, yeah. Right, I love the way you are saying it, you know, we are family. I love it because even tune is like, yeah. Alright, let me come to Muthoni. Previ can tell us, what is Spellcast all about? As he said, Spellcast is us and the other 50 plus people that couldn't join us today morning. Spellcast is the arts, it's a description of what you'd want the arts to be in Kenya, that's in my opinion. It's a family, it's a group, it's talent, it's all of it. I feel like it's everything encompassed into the group that we have, yeah. Alright, you have been doing so much as he said about song printing, you have people who do script. Are all these like people that come and merge together? Like I am a songwriter on a personal level, I am a dancer at the same time or we have different people. You'll find that some people who have like, on a personal level they did that already, like they did the script writing or the song writing and then came and joined us and then there are others who came and joined us with an agenda of learning and growing in certain aspects and found themselves branching out into other areas like acting, singing, dancing, yeah. So it's a mixture of both, like those that actually just came to learn and then those that came already knowing and just now spread their knowledge now to other people by helping them, teaching them, showing them ABCDEF, yeah. Alright, let me come to you two and ask, of course, you are from Tanzania. Yes. Namakazimu, aloakuswa hili, what is that? Deo. Oh, nabobia kule li? Nainam. Anyway, let's talk about the creativity part of it. How is the creativity being mastered within all this because I understand that you deal with things. Yes. Kilam tu meyanakuja, spell cast, anakuja na kili enye, let me just talk English. Anakuja kiawa creative, you understand me. Kilam tu yuko rediku, share what they have in their mind and to explore new things like seme mjomba aje na kitu kinye, anafikiri kikosawa. We'll all do what we see. Sdini kueleze aje. But everyone, anakuja na kinye, something new, kuna elewa. Kilam tu. Kilam tu. Yes. So, that's exactly what you guys do. Yes. Let me come back to you, Joshua, and it's really nice of what she has mentioned about creativity and coming up, you know, with your own idea. Yes. Let me ask, if I come with an idea and the team finds like, wow, it's a good idea, but if only we cannot twist it to God, to be like this, is there such an opportunity for change? Yes. What we do is that we ask everyone to be a team player. You come up with something, we sit down together and think about it, see what you can add onto it and make something solid. We have choreographers, but it's not that they are the only one who do the choreography for our staff. One of us might be having a better move than the choreographer and will suggest it. We'll be like, let's do this, by the way. I move kinye, but it complements the other one. So, it gives everyone an opportunity to play apart in making the whole production a big thing, because we've done productions in the past, something like Soweto Burning. It was an adaptation of the Mandela story and the Sarafina story. And it was done mid last year. Right now, we're working at doing more and more. Next year, we'll probably have a wide array of things we'll be doing. Other than that, we also performed during corporate events, you know. During dinas, during weddings, we have a band. It's a spellcast band. And it's giving an opportunity to people to grow. We have solo artists. She is a solo artist, actually. We have others, I'll just mention a few. Maybe we have Llewell. Llewell Muriri. We have Soila. We have James. So, there are so many people. And the thing is, the founder of spellcast, who is also a creative director, is giving everyone a chance to be what they want to be. Can I just mention him? He's called Andrew Tumbo. Wow, Andrew, okay. Yes. Andrew Tumbo, big up on your side. You have mentioned quite a number of things. Like, you know, the numbers, you are working as a group and such kind of things. How many people exactly are you? At the moment, we are 55. Wow, that's amazing. And we are seeking to grow. Yes, we want to... And all these are participating in this? Yes. We all participate. We meet every weekend for rehearsal Saturday and Sunday. And we come together and work together. All the 50. All right. I see, you have set designers instrumentally. We have photographers, video animators. All this is part of art. Yes. Being incorporated in one team. Yes. How do you get to organize yourselves? We have organized ourselves in kind of a military situation. Right. When you get there, like our creative director or founder is a general. Yes. And there is a group of generals. Then we have brigadiers. There is brigadier general. There is lieutenants. And there is the troopers. She is a trooper. She is a brigadier. And I am a brigadier general. Right. She is a brigadier in charge of Walto. All right. Yes, she is a trooper. I think she needs to be part of it. Yes, she should. And I am a brigadier general, which means I am in charge of helping or organizing the troops which are now made of the troopers. And getting word from the generals who are now our leaders, our forefront leaders. Yes. All right. I love the cooperation and how you're working together and big up to your leader. You know, he's really doing good. And looking at some of your core values in Mufani, there's something called creativity. There's passion. There's teamwork. And of course, there's discipline, as he has mentioned, about even teamwork. But I want us to talk about passion. Passion in art is the driving force. Yes. When someone comes and they are passionate about, let's talk about video editing. And then, or rather, they come, they want to do video editing. But their passion, according to your own view of things, seems to be in a different field. How would you advise them? Okay, as me personally, I just tell them to maybe be a bit more open minded because you find with the guys who are normally very restricted with their view, they tend to find it hard to listen to you. Like when you tell them, no, I'd like my video edited a certain way. It's the reason I'm calling out to you is because I don't have that particular skill. So, because you have that skill, I'd like you to help me do it in a certain way. So I think it's just more of a call to be more open minded and more receptive to things because the thing about art is very wide. It's very broad. My view of art most probably wouldn't be the same view you have of art. Most probably wouldn't be the same view he has of art or she has of art. So, I think the one thing that SPALCUS has been able to do is bring all those views and just bring them together and create an environment which allows you to be more open minded about certain situations. Like he said, when someone has a different move to give in, they are choreographers, they are resident choreographers, but also now, if they feel like your idea is better, they let you incorporate it. The same thing when we are being taught a song by Andrew, if at any point you give an idea and he actually really adjusts it, be like, no, no, go such a house, I want to go, learn that idea and then we come and try and implement it. If it doesn't work, we are going to try it again and just make it better. So, I think it's just the idea of being open minded. Right, and that's quite a good lesson to get to learn. You know, when you're joining the field, get to be open minded. I've proved it now at the CBC that's just coming in strength to tell us, as we did 844. You can see this strength to tell us, like, you know what, guys, be open minded, you can do anything, you can be anything. Jotua, you have said that you've done it's state house performances? Yes. You have done it's very common and big other big companies? Yes. If I want to host you for the providing, how does it go? Well, on our social media, we go by the name Spellcast Media, KE. Wherever you search, Spellcast Media, you'll only find one. That's us. So, there's no others, jee, nini, nini, majina, minga? Atta YouTube ni Spellcast Media ni CC. There is no one else. So, when you get there, you'll find our contact information. We have an email, which is infoatspellcast.co.ke and you also have our number. From our, it's easier from our social media platforms because there's a call button. So, it is easier for you to and you see our response is immediate. And if it's not immediate, then it's within the first hour or two. So, it's easier for us to because you see for such events, it's a matter of logistics. There's a lot of planning to understand what the nature of the events and everything. So, you can give you a specific quote for that particular event. Yes. Let me, Tono, let me come to you. You guys do make up, you do all this kind of stuff, like make up, you know, costuming and far much beyond what even we can think about art. And the way you're doing is quite exemplary. So, I can say, how do you get to merge these things, like make up, you know, artists, then you talked about music and yet you do music yourself? Yes. You're part of music? Yes. Okay, when we go or probably, let me just ask you in the field of music. When you go out for a field, what are some of the things that you were anticipating from you? Kidogo. Niminimuoga. Ah, kawana. Yeah, kawana. Okay, again the question. If when you go for music, as you said that you do, we have done safari kum, you've done so much of, so much of like even going outside, yeah? What are some of the things that you feel like in the music that need to be like, I need to hit on this line? Or rather, let's have Joshua. Joshua, Joshua, Joshua, what do you think? I think, once you come watch spellcast, you're thinking about kwaia will change. Because, you see, well, it's cool for us to say we're a chorus. So we're a chorus. First of all, you're not a kwaia. We don't just stand and sing. There's a lot of involvement in the crowd. We ride on the wave of just having fun. Just have fun there, involve everyone, let them have fun. So that's one thing that you'll take home. You'll think about spellcast and how, eh, I've never seen a kwaia move like this or sing like this because there's so many harmonies there. There's so much movement. There's so much dancing and you're like, so I can still sing and dance at the same time and the vocal strength is not affected at all. So there's a lot of fun for us because we enjoy being on stage, yes. So talking about even enjoying, there's that constant of being cool, calm, collected. So you're trying to break out the protocol to get something totally different. And I see what you're noting like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We have a signature outro for almost every other time. It's a haka. We'll just do a haka and we'll get well and you'll be like, hiya. So... Where did that come from? Haka is for sports people but no, haka is for anyone. You know, for us it's a signature. Okay, Motone, what makes you outstanding in these as spellcast? Me as an individual for just as spellcast. Our level of talent, number one. And it's how we're able to bring in other elements of art into our performance. For example, you'd be able to tell, okay, I think I'd like to use the example of our finals. We used the element of storytelling to tell a story for not stopping the music, for the music will always keep going on. So it's just being able to bring in all those elements to enhance the performance that makes us different. Because you won't find many groups or choirs or choruses doing what we do. You won't find many guys getting body art done for a particular performance. Most of the time it's just maybe makeup but you won't find someone combining makeup and body art. And you won't, it's very rare to find choirs having like costumes. Like when I say costumes, I don't mean to kill them to uniform. The way guys normally have like a standard uniform. No us when it's costumes, it's actual costumes. So you won't find many people doing that with the choruses or the choirs but as guys with our vocals, like Njamba said, it's crazy harmonies from Andrew Trumbo to the costuming, to the makeup and body art. Now when you bring all that on stage with the choreography and the instrumentalists, it enhances the performance. It makes it enjoyable. It makes people want to watch you again and again and again. Goni, let me ask you, you've talked about all these people being in one platform. Do you join the video editors, you join the choreographer, the makeup artists, you join all of them on set and they get to do all these things? Join them on set in what way, sorry? Like for instance, when you're performing, there's the makeup artist does your makeup and all things are joined up together and you go to the set. Yeah, yeah. So like you'll have, most of the times it's normally, most of these things normally happen backstage. So for like the makeup and the body art, you'll have them done backstage. And then even for some of them, they actually join us on stage and do the thing with us. But most of the time it's just here, most of the time we also help them out, we learn from them so that we can also make their work easier. Because you can imagine having a few people, do body art for over 50 people. It's also not an easy feat because many people also, it's also learning from them. And if they tell us help us with this, we're also ready to learn and help them with that so that in the future, if they tell us I expect this from you and be like okay, yeah, let's go do this because I know what they expect from me, yeah. All right, other than wedding and of course these other big events, what else have you been doing Joshua? Most of our year this year has been basically focused on East Africa got talent. And we managed to be the finalist, Kenya's finalist among the two, you are one of them. Thank you. Yes. Of course we did not win, but we won the hearts of many. We did not win the prize but we won the hearts of many. That's what I believe. We are currently working on a few plays that we want to be showcasing next year. We want to work on concerts because we normally do these things once in a... We normally do three shows a year. So next year we probably will be showing a lot to people and helping people come to our shows. Not the platform like EGT where it is other people's shows only, we will now be focusing on us. Yes. Towards the end of the year, we will be engaged in a lot of mall tours here and there. There are some private... Two hours for instance, where? For instance, Garden City. We'd like to work with them in the future. We have worked before with the mall in Karan, the hub, yes. So we want to continue working with them, continue working with Yaya Centre and just giving guys musical therapy because we... I mean, music is therapy. You had mentioned something about funeral. Yeah. You know the guys who really want music to suit you. You'd be bereaved, but when you listen to music and it would maybe teach you... I mean remind you about something that your lost one has done in the past and you're like, yes, it comes me because music does that. There's something you used to learn walking high school in Swahili. Something you used to do with, sorry, we used to talk about it like, kuna zile, music kada zina zofa like kumazishi, kumatanda rada. Kuna zile suji za nini luga maina fahu kutumika kwenya swa kuna zini vidkama huzo. When you're sitting down, you guys analyze like these what you're supposed to be singing, you know, it's a very common, it's bland and all that kind of stuff. What's some of the things that you look at? We look at what kind of event it is first. If it's a funeral, of course, you just don't go singing. Eh, I don't know. They can say better, they can talk better about that. Yeah, they can talk better about that, you know. But when it comes to an event like Safaricum, these are people who are here to be entertained. They don't want to just go there and be dull. You can't sing a song and you're like, yeah, and you're here to entertain guys. They'll sleep, they'll doze off, they'll be like, ah, these guys are wasting my time. So we make sure that we do not waste people's time to get them entertained. That's number one. When we talk about going to the field, about even you talking about EGT, you guys walk through a journey from zero all the way to the finals. How was the journey? I don't know. It was a tough one, but at the same time a learning experience. In the sense that the growth between when it began to when we finished the finals, I don't think there's any person who remained the same. I don't think there's any person who can say they were entered as Muzanis, they were left as Muzanis, it changed people and I think the one element that was the two elements that were enhanced were creativity, innovation and discipline. Those are the two, because now you know, because it's TV, which are part, yeah, and I think for the core values, I feel like values in as much as they are there they can always grow and they can always be enhanced. So I think that those are the two things that because it pushed people, it challenged people to push us, that one I can tell you for a fact. We had sleepless nights trying to create, trying to come up with something that we would be able to say we are proud of putting this on stage, we are okay with this. We've done, we knew we did our best so we've done our best for this one but it challenged us, it pushed us and can't even begin to say but also it was an experience, it was a learning experience doing TV for the first time for a majority of people especially in that sense because it's a competition so there's a lot of things that go into just working and doing the things with the guys because they were also an amazing crew so yeah, it was a learning experience but also it pushed people I don't think anyone left the same, I really don't and if you left the same, you didn't. How was the experience? It was breathtaking. Kwanza, for me being in I used to watch this Americans Got Talent videos I really wanted to go to perform in the Americans Got Talent but it came to East Africa so I was so happy and it was so exciting at the same time it was it pushed me to my hardest level I was almost breaking I was at my breaking point but it was a very nice experience meeting new people doing new things yes, actually it was very nice for me Joshua, were you parted part of all these of course Sikwa Chinyamaji 150 million people were watching I mean, it maybe was supposed to be the break for every individual in a certain different way so yes, I was part of it, I sing bass she sings alto, she sings soprano so together we did something great before you tell us the journey you said you guys are doing different things but in music, so can we do something? So the journey other than just growth because it was a different experience live TV is not what we all thought it was so all the way from the first day when we were queuing queued at 6.30am it was not easy to get you know it's 50 people from different houses unambian come at 6.30am someone will come at 6.40am because it's traffic from different areas so it was different it was not so easy because it's working under pressure as well then there's that butterfly feeling you have because we make it, that's the pre-auditions there's now the auditions we will go to the next level you know in Afika point even though you know you're good you start doubting and you're like because you haven't seen other guys you know you haven't seen other guys and their story is like because there are guys who are beautiful on that stage and I'm glad we got the chance to meet them that's nice and let me ask you Mufani there aren't business in the industries really growing quite significantly in the country even the makeup artists and lag with the increasing rate of radio and television stations what do you think about the business is it something that we need to cultivate more yes it's something we need to cultivate more because as time goes by the avenues that are created for cultivation of these businesses so I also feel like there's nothing like saturation when it comes to art so there won't be a point where we don't have enough artists we don't need any more it will always continue growing and with art growing there'll be need for more of performers there'll be need for more artists there'll be need for artists of all kinds so I feel like it's something that needs to be cultivated because in other countries you've seen the cultivation of art and people are living so here at home so that we can also and are living from it do you think in Kenya we are really embracing it as fast as we anticipate no it's not being embraced as fast because there's still that mentality of go to school, when you go to school you go and then you go to university and then you get your degree and when you get your degree you go and work and not everyone is built that way if you are being honest it doesn't work for everyone actually go to school and enjoy being a doctor or being an engineer that's not for everyone and I think it's high time that we just admit that it's not for everyone is this the pain it is pain but I can tell you for sure by the time you convince someone that this art is worth the amount of money you're asking for it's quite I don't know I think what we need to do probably as a country is to embrace the fact that art is you, art is me art is everyone you as a person you are a masterpiece and when you come together and create another masterpiece it takes time it takes skill the same skill that is used in the business world is the same skill that an artist will use to make his what I think we need to embrace as canyons as the government as the county government, the 47 maybe is that we need to create more art centers ensure that art comes back to education system with a bang time and skills two things we have really mentioned there relevant in our time do you think as young people we are giving ourselves enough time in the closet to think of what really we want in the art industry those who are in art are spending countless hours maybe those who are not in art and maybe because of I don't know the way the world is they need to come out of it think about it, think about the thing that you love doing I know my dad usually tells me do the thing you love most you'll enjoy it, you'll get money from it you see when you do this thing that you love there is no way you give up you keep on pushing and that's one thing I have seen since I joined, it's been a year for me Yes, talk to me about the business and you talked about skills as the second point how can we merge the skills and the chag that we need and month the same way prenumeration is done based on what type of job you're doing is the same way we can do that you can amount because in any job setting they are basically telling you what are your skills so for your skills and your experience we'll give you this amount of money so that's the same thing that needs to be done for the art industry because other than the skill of course the skill will come out in terms of how it is produced at the end so you cannot have a bad production and expect to get very good pay you need to have a very good production and expect very good pay not a very good production and a bad pay it doesn't go together Motoli, Joshu is talking about I don't know whether you agree with him he's talking about experience it's a song that we've been hearing and people have been told we need experience skills is in your size it's the experience that we can say because people who may not necessarily have that experience that maybe the three of us have but because they've been doing that thing of singing in the bedroom and they are good and maybe like your mum and dad have had them or like friends and they are actually good at what they do now they want to put them out on a platform where they can maybe try their performance I feel like it's an in-between depending on where you get your experience from because where I get my experience from where he gets his experience from because now art is very art is broad like I had said the way I experience art or the way I perceive art won't be the same way anyone else perceives art and now because of that I feel like for art experiences might be a good thing for you as an artist but also at the same time because of how broad it is it doesn't necessarily matter and here is something you sing or say or do or write and I really enjoy it and I enjoy it to the fullest but someone else watching and be like ah no it doesn't work for me and that's the thing with art because unlike the other types of jobs especially like with business for like experience they will tell you if you want maybe five years when you're going through the requirements you want five years you've had five years of experience and then because no other skills you're going to because those are set skills that you learn and sometimes you need to be innovative so that you can grow but for art because it's very wide very very wide I feel like experience sometimes might matter sometimes really doesn't matter Alright guys because of that I will give you guys a parting shot every 30 seconds and I'd like of course if you need to finish up by telling us for you Joshua tell us where we can find you guys and the two of you and of course for you will be looking at the camera and from there I don't know if we begin with more funny it's right next to me you just do what you love this art industry is big enough for everyone when I say everyone I mean everyone so do what you love if you're doing music, if you're doing dance if you're doing your videography if you're doing anything to do with art just do what you love so love what you do and do what you love that will be the best thing for you as an individual for us at Spellcast for you to be able to reach us for those who are interested in joining and learning those who are interested to join us and learn from us you can get us from all our social media that's Instagram, Facebook Twitter and YouTube Media KE Yes All right, let's have family from Tanzania for me is just to tell people that they always believe in themselves never give up and always pray pray pray pray munguatok pelika places wow many thanks guys for coming along and of course having an interaction with us thank you for having us thank you for having us well about it and of course three things up be open minded joining the business not just an easy road but trust me you're going to try if only you have an open mind and of course two more things time and skills invest in these two and you're going to find yourself open and of course for the market as we are growing every day my name is Karanja Alex of course Barry Moss has come up just after these don't go anywhere these is 1254