 My particular experience of secondary school was quite isolating and anxiety-provoking and I had a lot of individuals from different areas of the school, different parts of my day who were quite confrontational. They bullied me basically, which had such a massive impact on how I viewed life and other people when I left secondary school. Is that something that you've experienced that kind of bullying aspect? I was traumatized when I left. I didn't know what to do with my life. That's why I say I struggled a bit even in my 20s because I was having trouble holding a job. I was unemployed. Most of the jobs I did held were in the nightlife, so like dishwashing for bars and whatever. It just wasn't an easy environment to be and your life was a mess. You were like broken whatever and you're trying to make something come out of it. That's what made me take rap more seriously at 19 because I just felt like I needed something to do. Partly why I say stay blessed at the end of my videos is that I'm happy that things didn't get worse for me. I'm blessed every day that I wake up in. I got something to fight for for more. When you were telling me about your stories in the pre-chats, I identify a lot with what you're trying to do. At that age that you're talking about around late teens, early 20s, my focus was to be an athlete. I needed to get on that and that sort of endeavor, that idea in my head of getting to a certain place was enough to pull me along through all the difficult times at school particularly. Same with me too. I was a very in his own kind of person. But then over time too, I did learn how to socialize. I had some homies who were club promoters. They took me out. I was like sociographer but I made it work. I just made it work. And in a way, I kind of networked away myself through not just my city but through the whole Greater Toronto area. So I've been to downtown Toronto. I've been to a lot of places. I've been to Toronto even recently for training opportunities to train in some programs. Is that programs for you or programs that you're helping? No, these are programs for me to train in hip hop and do better and with too. But I'm happy I went through it and made me into a better artist at the end of the day because it helped condition yourself to work on yourself and figure out more of what you got to do.