 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Might pop might pop with your hosts Salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews For the first 48 minutes of the intro holy smokes current events of the conversation Listen to Sal's incredible transitions. We talk about the death. Yes of snapchat. It's dying We talk about doordash all from a car dash in the gig economy What is that Justin brings up furries? Yeah? Yeah, you know they're a topic one of his hobbies We do we talk about weight watchers. That's when I do my smooth transition We said some nice things about these guys Adam does the worst for sigmatic mention of all time for sigmatic Sales are up, bro. I just got to report that sales are up for sick. I can tell you how shitty they taste Are they still selling them? They must be fucking working. 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Why I just like what they stand for I like what they stand for I like what they provide I think it's an incredible it's a lot of variety in their products and stuff and well They just do they go the extra mile to really kind of like it might be when we keep for a lot longer than anybody else But I do like yeah, I do like the people that are identified to you. They're really really nice to us Yeah, no, they've always been But I mean I think thrives one for me organifies a close to yeah, so then we get into the questions the first question was Do we have any tips on how to outgrow people? Gracefully now. I don't think they're talking about bicep growth. I think they're talking about personal growth What do you do when you grow and the friends around you don't how do you break up with your friends find out in this episode? The next question was take him to dinner. How many times per week should women hit each muscle group? Is it different than it is for men? This is an interesting topic that we cover The answers may surprise you the next question was do we think food sensitivities play a role in? Fat loss in other words, let's say your calories are good your macros are good But you're eating a bunch of foods that you have Intolerances to can that prevent you or slow you down from losing body fat and Finally the last question. How do we? Define failure now they made it they might have been talking about Momentary muscular failure with weights if that's the case we went way off. We went in the other direction And we talked about an answer correctly. I didn't think about that till after we got going that way It might have been talking about Yeah, it's like two short failure. What is failure when you're lifting weights? You can't lift it anymore. Yeah with good form. Okay, there's the answer there Fine. Yeah in the episode we talk about other types of failure and how we define failure there also this month Would you like to get free access? 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Here's what I think Here's what I think I think This is a clusterfuck you guys. I'm just gonna say oh, so I shouldn't have kids, huh? No, just I'm gonna push Katrina. Do you have a have a have a like a full-time nanny. That's right I'm trying to manage is the whole I'm trying to get so much money that I have a full-time Where's the fucking boat of money nanny? That's my goal. All right, so I keep trying to help your junior I'm just gonna get mad at me because I'm working all time like listen woman If you want something to take care of our kid fold the laundry and cook for us all the time Like let me do this if you ever if you ever want your girl to stop listening to you the way you start a sentence is listen woman Listen here woman It always ends up poorly. Yeah, never it doesn't go my way Dude I got always start with honey. Yeah, exactly Permission to speak I got two messages from So, you know how one of our recent podcasts I speculated that If you have like inflamed gums or they bleed or whatever that could contribute to food intolerances, right? Right? Yeah, I got a message from a dentist an MD a dentist who wrote me and is like this is exactly what we're researching right now Oh, really? Yes. In fact, somebody wrote a book on it and then I got a message from and gas a gastroenterologist who said Absolutely, this is something that we're looking into and we think this is the case You're self-sacrificed. I'm just so brilliant Domice yeah, or up with theories that usually Or or sometimes they don't here's what I think what I think he blames it on Justin He denies those ones Remember that dumb idea the one that I'm at If it doesn't work out, that's right. I'm the fall guy. You know what? Yeah, you're me Here's the other option something like wow, that's crazy that I came up with that and then I think to myself like what if I read an article about that Stayed in there all I remembered was that that happened? It's probably that's happened to me before I'm so brilliant Speaking of things that we brought up on the podcast recently. So I brought up snapchat. Did you guys hear the fall of snapchat? Yeah, they're stock dropped one point one point three billion. Do you know why so? Kylie Jenner tweeted that nobody uses him anymore. Yes, that's the reason bro So I think I told you guys I don't know if I said this power I don't remember but I was talking to Bradley Martin. He told me his his snapchat views went from 50,000 that people to five thousand overnight. I don't think it was her that did it I think she's just I mean why I don't think she's one of the most influential people right now I know that but they changed the algorithms or something. So that's what I thought that was my speculation That's why she said that you know I'm saying I bet you she's no no she said it with her statement was does anybody even yeah Does anybody even still snapchat anymore? Yeah, well, I feel like too She's saying what a lot of people were inherently thinking but they were still had it, you know well, so here's the thing that I trip on is that Why haven't these companies figured this out and you see this in the shoe game where you're starting to get these These shoe companies that are attaching themselves to influencers Why are not these tech companies figuring the same piece out too? Well, some of them have I mean so you'd like you mentioned the Kardashians like you've seen like like Kim's stupid app Like it that's worth almost more than anything else. She's done. Oh really? Yeah, you know I haven't hundreds of millions of dollars. What is it off of some stupid ass app that I don't know It's just like her shopping or something. I have no fucking idea. It's horrible. Yeah, people like But just shows you how much influence they have right? I mean that's that's that's a big deal If somebody can imagine how scary that is for an app company. Yeah, that gets huge, right? Yeah, they can just talk bad about it And then well this goes back to that book hit makers that that Tom turned me on to back when about how important that the This whole virability that everyone talks about it's like really it's not viral and it's not like that It's that somebody of major influence has put millions of people on to it And so then it seems like it explodes and then if you have four or five people that have millions of people attached You have this huge look at that, you know what Joe Rogan did Yeah, they're all right, just for that reason alone. I saw him I was like, oh and I checked it out and then I was like oh, so this is legitimate, you know Otherwise, I probably wouldn't even have paid attention to it. I'm really interested to see wonder if you got paid to do that I don't I don't know. I don't think so, you know, I mean he's a smart business guy I mean sure he's yeah, but why would he add a no-word me? Hey everybody check out this new social media. Yeah, well, I think everybody likes likes the idea of it It's really targeted towards our generation. It's not targeted towards cleaner interface I mean, it's it's kind of time for a fresh update So I read a whole I read an article on it right and what they talk about is that you know It's really targeted towards the businessman and woman and our our age group because you have this ability to separate your Your friends your acquaintances and then your and then your family, right? So I think it I mean if I had if we had vero if that if this thing goes where it's at I would have rather had that than Instagram for the simple fact that I would be able to separate my business and personal life Yeah, I would be I would I would be more like you see me now I rarely share any of my you know family and very close friends and even Katrina Where if I was able to share that with all my close friends and family I totally would I would post my friends and I would post you know pictures of my cousins and family and stuff like that if You know, I knew that I could keep it to just oh what's brilliant about that is now you cut out Facebook, too Right because like Facebook is where I usually like interact with family members. I don't do it on Instagram So now if you have like something like that where it's a platform where I could sort of siphon off like which Group I'm talking to that way like I mean I could just use one one place for everything So here's it here's another cool one that's going on right now that I'm really fascinated with that squeaking people by the way They thought it was my dog. I was like you would tell the audience you got your puppy I got my puppies. He's just a ball of energy and so yeah, we got him in studio It wasn't my squeaky shoes that was making that sound. No, he's he's he's having at his toy so a company called softbank invested in door dash and Door dash is now valued at 1.4 billion and they and the same company had already acquired some shares in Uber Eats, so they're making a huge play right now on this space. It's fucking brilliant because You're we all see these door dash type of companies that are popping up everywhere But even so only only 5% is of our food is ordered online through these things So the theory is that this is going to grow to 25% or potentially more People as it become more aware more accessible. I think it would I think I would totally support that 100% I mean, yeah, how big was delivery for pizza, right? They're like like delivery for Pete like it made pizza one of the the biggest foods in America because they would deliver Oh, just because of that how many times it as a kid growing up At least I know that my family ordered pizza just for the simple fact that it was gonna get delivered now And the problem is if you're a restaurant Because a lot of restaurants will you know when pizza started getting really popular with delivery Other companies of the restaurants looked into that but the logistics and the cost of it Just didn't make sense. The cool thing about this is if you're a restaurant You don't have to invest in any of it, right? So you automatically now can reach out to a larger audience by having you know other a middleman or whatever pick up your food and deliver it Yeah, so I mean we're gonna see more of this More of this happening. That's the gig economy. They call it the gig most of the job Yeah, most of the jobs added to our economy are now gig economy type jobs Where it's like people kind of work for themselves, but they kind of don't you know because they either deliver food Or they drive uber or hmm, you know, they rent out their home with Airbnb or whatever like this is the new You know, it's creating on for more entrepreneurial spirit out of you know This new generation coming up more so than when we were kids for sure Because the barriers entered at are very small like if you want to dude if I was a kid when I first had my car There's a teenager. Tell me you wouldn't have done that. Oh, I would have ubered the fuck Are you kidding me? I would be like what's the age restriction to that? That's that seems kind of like I wouldn't want an uber driver that's like 16 or 17 No, I think I don't think it's legal in some states. It's probably gonna be 18 and then yeah some states still are fighting it So it's not everywhere. Oh, I would have a question Justin I don't know what I don't know what dude if you're a college kid and you're I don't know how you're right It's a good question because if you're old enough to do that and you're going to school. It feels like a perfect job I would have loved that. Yeah, cuz I mean I I would I would have sucked to get lost Yeah, yeah, well think how many of your your peers at your college would be picking up rides from you You know I'm saying you guys the valet cars I mean that was my easy job that I did while I was in college and dude I finally just had one car just showing people around right after all the fraternity parties. Everyone's drunk. Oh, yeah I mean that it's it's you know one of the things cool is besides the the money side of it, too Is I believe like drinking and driving is down at significantly because of that. Yeah, that's fucking awesome That's so rad when you think about that. It's like in the past it was this Oh, I gotta drive home or this that cuz you didn't want you were worried about your car But it's like man, it's so easy now to uber from anywhere that I mean it just eliminates it 21 I just looked it up 21 is the oh it is 21. Yeah, 21, but Have you heard about people calling ubers instead of ambulances? Yes? Yeah, that again, could you guys you brawl up you're an uber some dudes like you know Shot shot the shot in the side. Yeah Could you give me to the ER man? I can't afford it. I can't afford to fucking ambulance. Oh my god Well, I mean it makes sense because an ambulance cost how much like a jillion dollars. How much do you want to bet? That we're gonna start seeing Medical style pickups that are kind of like ambulances, but are like like control thruber Of course, of course because they're even looking at the luxury like, you know limo type services, too So it's like why would you why wouldn't you contract a nurse out who could typically or who could? Potentially be someone who could handle somebody and keep them safe your first responder Yeah, first responder to person who's got the certifications has the experience Oh, you pay you pay them some sort of a percentage of the ride or a little crash cart, right? That's it. I think this is gonna get hilarious. It's weird How many jobs are gonna be because it's everything everything is so regulated if you look at that like, you know Ambulances and you know, that's my cost so much. Yeah, does it make any sense that your ambulance picks you up and takes you to the hospital? Well, you kind of wanted to be sterile. Yeah, I mean, but then again like I'll give you like a poor like raiding You know you get two stars Gangrene because some fucking uber driver was trying to like you know if that were to happen to be the last time he gets away with it You lost your job, buddy. He was well you lost your leg. I thought he was giving me CPR, but then I felt tongue Yeah, I know so I read an I Read an article the other day that cracked me up. I saved it here. Let me pull it up here for you guys So there's a I'm gonna read a term to you and you guys have to guess what it is So there's something called. God. What is the name of it? I gotta find it This is a proctophilia The proctophilia, you know what that is sounds like sounds like a sexual Bacteria, Emily. Yeah, you guys are pretty fucking close. You're very close. It proctophilia is fart fetishism There's people that love to be farted on yeah, these are people that pay money For other people to fart on them. I'll do that for free or far Wow on there like or on their faces again My brother would have made a lot of money Do it on command yeah, so People pay a lot of money to do this apparently Wow. I didn't know this was a thing You know, I get blasted in the face Yeah, like they get they get see I just I have I don't understand why kids these days complain about finding a job But it's so easy to find a job if you can fart right you got a job Muscle worship, right if you can get some muscles you can flex online for somebody you can fart in someone's face Yeah, you know Uber drive them somewhere We live at a great time right now. Oh fuck. It's not hard to make some money, man No, it's opportunities everywhere. Stop being lazy, dude. I don't get out there and fart on someone's face What's wrong with what's wrong with like humans are so complex that we do such weird. Yeah Like it's like, you know what I find what I find fascinating is that it's You know 20 years ago This type of stuff wouldn't exist because that these weirdos are spread out They couldn't find each other. Yeah, they couldn't find each other But now that there's you know, they're hey, there's probably a thousand of these weirdo Conventions all right all over the United States Chins. I'm like, there's that many of you. Yeah. Yeah. Is it really that many? Yeah, dude I told you guys I ran it like some reason they're always in Santa Cruz, you know, and so I'm walking What do you mean for some reason? That's like the home of weird people. Yeah Like for just people watching purposes like we just plopped down on a bench and just watch people, but yeah I just I've seen so many furriers come through there Courier, I think they're called furries. Whatever they are. You gotta get right Justin fucking weird Attack me. Oh my god That's the least intimidating That's the least intimidating gang of all time. Yeah, but you know I'm not talking shit But if I saw a bunch of mascots running at me, right, I don't think it'd be like here bears there You know, though, that would be the most embarrassing ever to get your ass kicked by a giant rabbit That would suck dude. You just I would I don't want to bring that never let you live that down All right, so if we have to pick a furry for each of us now, so like Adam if Adam was a furry What are the options? No, no, no, but Doug can you pull up furry for common furry costumes and we'll pick from there Well, Adam always wants to have like some cool like I can still you know, like it chicks with It's gotta be like some kind of Tomcat like alley cat or something Yeah, well, we well, you know what we could actually combine two of them Yeah, so what we could do is we can make like Adam could be a kangaroo Okay, furry right and then Doug could be a little Joey. Oh, yeah, and Adam's pouch You know, I'm saying really together. Yeah, there they are. Yeah, Justin would be yeah I don't know what Justin would be a bear. I feel like you'd be like a like a rhino. That's what I was that was exactly Yeah, yeah, we have big ass or like a bull Yeah, I mean I can see that. Yeah, I don't know what Sal would be. Sal would be like a like a bird Like a owl like a wise. Oh, I love ow You know owls are my turns his head just like Owls are one of my favorite animals by the way. Really? Yeah, they're so incredible to look at aren't they? Yeah, they are and they're vicious. They're just savage. You know when I was a kid. There was a movie called Clash of the Titans. Yeah, remember that movie. Oh the gold bird. Yeah, the metal one. Do you remember his name? Yes, I got one on me. He got me boobo boobo boobo. How do you remember some of the bro? Man, I don't know. I wouldn't got that. Yeah, and he was a little metal bird or whatever Look at all those stats. Doug. I'm fucking always man. This is a real deal right here. Yeah, they're everywhere, dude Doug, can you look up now is it furry porn? Is it is it? Now I'm under the impression that it's a it's it's a sexual thing But is it not always a sexual thing? Is it sometimes I think it's both I think yeah, they just hang out and then I think part of it's like I don't know They they go through like the weird like creature animal So there's furry sex stuff where they have sex, but they don't actually have sex so they keep their costumes on Yes, and then there's where they actually have sex with the furry costumes on but they're but they have holes in the Imagine how sweaty you would get inside of that. Well, here's the thing too Part of the allura furry is I'm apparently I think I just made up that term Is that if you're a guy you could be a female furry and vice versa So now we're mixing now it can be weird right now. You're like, oh, I'm gonna have sex with that furry over there It's a dude. Wow, you know, I mean you don't know that you know, it'd be fun You know is the fuck with what like right now the Arnold classic is going on this we can help us furries. Yes Shit, yes, can we do that mad Mike? Are we secure enough with ourselves to do that or are you guys worried that somebody would try and like hump your legs? I'll ask to wear that that one unit hard that like covers your whole face and you know People do that too right to be anonymous you're seeing that big the big yeah, we have that green screen suit thing. Yeah, it's too tight Man, yeah, it shows too much. You'll see my stuff. It'll look great on you. Yes, that's what we're banking on you're selling I'm glad you thought about that. Yeah. All right, so some cool current events. I just read this headline the other day Why do you have to transition that way? I was already talking about current events already. Oh some more Why do you have to announce it that way? I gotta give him shit because you guys give me shit. Yeah, my my stark There's like no lube and all just tell me what you got to say. So listen, I read this headline the other day and This is a huge signal that the market is shifting in a big big way So weight watchers is now shifting from weight loss to wellness. That's a trip Healthy is the next is the new skinny. That's exciting. Isn't that kind of cool? So that's crazy So basically saying that it's you know, it's not just about losing weight. It's about being healthy We're gonna focus more on wellness measures like blood pressure and other things. So Pretty awesome. I think they'll probably change their you know, their approach to how they count Points and stuff like that for food. Yeah. This is what I would my question is does anything really change other than you Yeah, the marketing like that. I mean a company that big that valuable that let large of a customer base already Do you really change everything up or do you just you know, put a new dress or introducing things? Yeah, or is it just another a new dress on a pig? Well, I'm saying is it the same thing, you know what say what you will Yeah, no matter what it makes us look cool because we either way. Yeah, it's at least they're talking about it Well, say what you will weight watchers is a major of course national global, you know diet Brand of you know, where you where you hire them and you basically count Macros or calories or whatever just through their own point system Say what you will They're not Terrible, they're really not super terrible. No, they're not They're better than a lot of other a lot a lot of other ones I I've had I've had clients who've had good with success and I've looked at what they've done And they really do what they do is they oversup. They simplify the hell out of everything That's why it's so good, which is probably why no And I do I do like how they you know, it's not this you can only eat these foods or at that They give them the flexibility. They just make it Dude, they were IIFWM before IIFWM they are It really is IIFWM is just an Just an evolution to that which I would argue that IIFWM is a little bit better than weight watch So I would say weight watchers are a good step in the right direction Then IIFWM and then obviously after that you need to evolve to where you can intuitively hopefully do it someday. So But I get it, you know, I get to simplify it for people But what it doesn't do is it It's just another reason for you to not put the work in and I think the work is necessary Right. I think it want it's just another way for you to be Disconnected from like I if I don't be a stepped of work, right They're providing a service versus like teaching them how to you know, powering them Well, when you go to they have meetings and stuff. So when you do weight watchers and I'm not super privy to them Okay, so this is just from my own, you know, secondhand experience because of clients But when you do the full experience if you will You do you have meetings and you that's what they did So part of what part of what they did better than everybody else was that was the they created an incredible community and accountability system within the groups And I actually had lots of clients that did weight I had clients that were paying me to do their nutrition and train them But they still would go to their weight watcher group Because I like the group because they like the support because they They like the weight so they have to weigh in right every time they come to a group right every time a group meeting It's like an AME or they show up to a meeting It's totally like that they weigh themselves They keep track of where you were before so they it's this accountability piece all these all these other People that are going through the same process. So, you know, you know kudos to them for building a really good Environment like that. I don't have anything to knock on somebody who's no and the fact that because remember There's such a massive company. So when you have big companies moving in this direction, you got to keep in mind They're not They're not trying to be trend setters typically what they're trying to do is read the market And so the thing about this that excites me is that a company like Weight Watchers, which spends You know, who knows how much money on market research on trying to predict where the market's going to stay relevant When a company like Weight Watchers is saying we are now focusing on wellness and they're using the word wellness Yeah, like that was a that was a little bit that was a Kind of a small segment of the health and fitness and weight loss You know Market like there was wellness and then there was weight loss and then there was muscle building and then there was whatever So so the fact that they've even chose the word wellness and said that that's the direction that they're moving Is a very good reflection that the market is moving in that direction Which we've been talking about, you know, we've been talking about that since the since day one, right? Yeah household brands like that to use that kind of terminology and like think in that direction It's it's a big deal. It's a very big deal. I think it's a good thing But of course what comes along with that is the perversion of that word, right where Like what does wellness mean? It's gonna be the new functional or yeah, like one of the buzz turns Yeah, it was like, you know tricks cereal for kids, you know wellness, you know cereal Yeah, wellness enhanced. We threw some probiotics in there and yeah, you know Well, you just regraged over that but that's exactly what it's about It's probiotics on everything because we see that already happening I just saw who is it someone posted there with a cam with the kombucha pills kombucha pills I was like that was fucking great, dude. That's that kombucha you fucker That's a supplement Packed with kombucha so great a little bit of kombucha juice and yeah, just like pour a little bit in there It's all yeah each capsule captures a fragment of the scoby They even use the scoby which is the That's the the mushroom that you put on whatever the fungus or yeah, whatever you do to grow There's there's fungus. I mean, there's uh mushrooms inside of uh, is it a mushroom? No, it's uh, Doug knows he makes his own Yeah, it's not a mushroom. It's a kind of freak it down fun guy The scoby is a symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast So there's no so could you have you ever thought about like using like one of our brands like four Sigmatic and blending it into like the could you could you do that? It's not a mushroom. So it wouldn't go Well, I don't think it'd go well. Yeah. No, I mean It brews the same way though. Do you brew it like tea? Is that how it works? No, so you have to make it You have to let I want to know from Doug. That's what that makes it. You don't fucking make it You brew an actual I know it all I hear from Doug Yeah, I use a black tea and a green tea and some sugar the sugar is what feeds the scoby And I put the cold tea into the pot or the crock with the scoby Which is the mushroom like thing, but it's not really a mushroom And you let it sit there for a week. Dude, let's fuck around and put some of the arse for sigmatic quarter steps in there, man Why why not? I don't I guess you could throw it whatever you want. I would put it in afterwards So after you brew it all then you just put it in afterwards. I wouldn't yeah, here's why I wouldn't I don't know what the anti if there's any you know What's the word um antimicrobial effects or anything from what may be in for sigmatic and mixed with the Oh, you think that it could have a bad re not bad, but it might negate some of the effects or just be a waste of You know mixing. I don't know Yeah, I create a you might create a scoby ball probably don't try. I'll never know scoby Speaking of for sigmatic my my cousin who's been having anxiety I told him to do the chaga raishi and he said it's a great Relief for anxiety, which is what I also, you know get from that mix also Yeah, no, you're you definitely you hog all the for sigmatic, but we're okay with that Yeah, yeah, yeah, so good Justin you don't use it really that much as much as Sal does right Cordyceps I did for a while which I liked, you know for endurance and Cognitive function, but I wish they would make a horny goat weed. That's why I've been drinking that lately horny goat weed Is that it's not a mushroom. So how's the horny goat weed working for you? Why can't for you a horny goat yet? No, not really just a goat. I do I do I do feel a little bit of I do feel like a little bit of a neutral goat, but I actually like the taste of it I like the taste of the horny goat weed. What yeah, what are you doing the tea? Are you doing pills? What does it taste like? I do tea. It's actually really good It's got a chamomile type of taste to it, you know, they take what they do is they take a goat Yeah, that's horny. They jack it off inside You had to go there in a bag and you make it into sorry to dug. We almost did it. We almost made it Oh, oh did I blow it? No, I would sexual the goat blew it And we everybody I don't apologize. We mix it in a tea and then you know, there you go And you know, it's funny because the first time I gave him the horny goat weed semen Adam was like this tastes familiar I'm like, it's actually yeah, it's actually not how led me down that path. It's his fault. Anyway. Yeah Hey, by the way asshole, uh, here's a study for you. Who you referring to? What do you think I'm talking about? Who's the asshole tolerance for loud noises decreases with age? You know why remember we had this argument about this? Oh, yeah, that's right Whoa, what do we have an argument about? Well, because Sal wanted to turn down the the the music and we're giving him shit I was talking about how yeah, like and you're like, oh, no, I want to stay young because I'm yeah, I resist being older so Well, no, I'm just I'm just reading the underlying underlying psychology I had I'll never forget I had this trainer who worked for me and His parents had protected his ears since he was a baby And taught him to like keep earplugs in what yeah, no check this out. I'll never forget this kid And autistic no you could scare the hell out of him. He was an odd bra But he got in my car one time And I don't I mean I listen to my music loud, but not like crazy like deafening loud, right? And he got in my car and I never he screamed and he covered his ears and then I turned down He's autistic, bro. And yes, that is exactly what it sounds like. You think I'm making a joke, but I'm not Well, maybe why would his parents cover his ears since he was a kid? Probably because it well not literally like they were taking his hand But I mean like they got him they they kept him away from it and they said it's because we tend to Damage damage our ears so bad with the way we the way we do listen to music and concerts and the thing And the way we yell and we're so loud and so to protect him in that I just think he had a fucking helicopter parents. That's what I think. Maybe I don't think he was autistic You know maybe or maybe he was because back in those days. So we've got miracle here Yeah, what's that? That helps with when you get deaf. Well, so so here's what it says You know why as you get older certain things are too loud for you It's because we lose our ability to perceive higher sounds like higher frequency sounds But we still hear the lower frequency sound so it distorts the sound so when we hear music It sounds more aggressive Yeah, bassy. Yeah, and we don't like it. Do you ever think we're gonna get fucked because we're sitting here with it This in our ears Probably what I know my hearing is going to be affected some dude I used to play and practice in a band with drums A bass and like guitar at full like cranked up volume And it was in a basement and so all the walls is the sounds bouncing off all the walls without any ear plugs Like an asshole. I just hope that since I got the psoriasis and the balding thing I'll be the first one that's I just hope that like like the eyesight and the fucking ear thing So I got bad news for you. So So people who have more than one thing that happens to them or is more likely to have more things Get out of here I grabbed him out for like two seconds Oh, fuck. What's the bad thing? I gotta sit down for this And erectile dysfunction is quite hard. That sucks. So just check out this other study that I picked up here This was published in on uh, november 6 2007 2017, excuse me and the oxford academic They used cannabis. So cbd and thc with a particular type of Chemotherapy on people who had uh, multi-form glioblastomas which are a type of Brain cancer and the survival rate after one year Was 83% and by the way, uh, this type of brain cancers is terminal, right? Many times is very terminal 83 survival rate after one year compared to The control group who didn't get the cannabis 44 percent double double. Wow double man. That's a big fuck That's a big fucking deal. Do you guys know the first time that cannabis was observed to have anti-cancer effects? What like here? Like right around what time like how long ago we knew this? No, I don't I'm gonna say 10 years. Nope 1970s So the the uh, the government had invested money in investigating cannabis and its effects on its potential For causing cancer and what was coming back was that it was actually preventing cancer They shut the study down. What and yeah shut it down because it didn't fit with the narrative And they shut it down and then it was right after that I think it was 1977 When Richard Nixon, you know, then really went hard on the war on drugs To go after the you know the the counterculture But the government knew that there were potential anti-cancer effects from cannabinoids Right before they did that how fucked up is that sometimes I'm it makes me angry Sometimes I think that they're they know we have we have the cure and we just don't let anybody have it It's way more cost-effective to keep everybody. Don't you think that sometimes I mean, you know the shit that we've accomplished and we've created A tinfoil hat on I don't know Sometimes I do on these type of topics You know I'm saying because it just it just baffles me that we just can't figure this cancer thing out We figured out all these other things and I just feel like well, so I did a lot of um I'm by no means even near an expert on on the subject I've just done a lot of reading on it because I've had someone close to me who had it and You know, here's the thing. I thought that for a second like maybe they had maybe they know how to How to really cure this but they don't want to because there's more money in treating it rather than curing it But the reality is You know, I thought about this too imagine if someone had to cure for cancer All right, you'd make that shit would be worth a lot of money trillions of dollars, you know, I mean The other thing too is that you know what though the counter argument to that is that there's trillions of dollars in the The ongoing treatments and pills to all your patients Here's what I believe you'd make a one you'd make a trillion dollars up front of like curing everybody But then you then the business would be dead where it's an ongoing trillion business now Well, here's what I believed out to I believe that well not that I just believe it There's some evidence of this when you look at the the way that pharmaceutical companies invest their money When you invest your money if you're a pharma company and you want to come out with a treatment For something like cancer, you know, it's going to cost you Around 10 years of testing and trials and to get through the FDA because to get make a drug legal We have so many regulations. It's insane. By the way Many people believe that more people die because of our regulations than are actually saved Because we're not able to get new breakthrough drugs because it's too expensive to even explore them So if you're a company and you're invested and you want to invest It's probably cost some more like half a billion dollars Just to get a drug approved. You don't want to bet your money on something that is way out there You know, I mean, you're not going to say, okay Let's take half a billion dollars and look at his potential cure What you're probably going to do is say, okay Let's try and create another type of chemo because we know chemo's got a market You know, we know it kind of works to try and create a chemo with less side effects And so what ends up happening is we end up seeing something that kind of works And more and more money goes in that direction less money goes into exploring New potential types of treatments and then on the flip side like cannabis is not a patented Product it's a plant So there really isn't a lot of money in in in how to you know, create this into a drug that can potentially Treat cancer, but since then there have been and it's by the way, it's on the cancer.gov Website is a government website They actually talk about in there when you look up cannabis How studies have shown That animal studies in particular and some human studies have shown that cannabis has a you know Good effect on cancer in other words. It kills cancer There are some cancers that are more sensitive than others So like I think liver cancer breast cancer brain cancer for sure Like the places where there's the highest concentration of cannabinoids But I mean Who knows man? How crazy will that be if we if at some point in the future we realize that oh, shit Here's a here's a crazy treatment that Is super effective in conjunction with other things or maybe on its own? Well, I think we're figuring that out right now. I think it's it's only a matter of time and we're seeing it I mean, I you're seeing it happen. I mean, it seems like every it seems like every other day a New state gets on board with with its new laws with cannabis. I know what I would do is I would If I were terminal, there's a couple things I would do One of them would be fasting and the other one would be cannabis Those are the two things I would do for myself I wish I didn't have such a bad taste in my mouth over the industry because there's so much potential business wise just all Yeah, all the opportunities that will pop up, but I just don't you know, I love fitness too much And the cannabis thing was just kind of like Too bad. Did you guys see uh, uh, president trump's terrible economic Policy you just did or economic move. No, he is going to you know, here's the thing, dude Are we gonna get in a debate to get at this again? No, it's not a debate It's just I mean, I'll tell you what he did you let me know what you think Okay, he's gonna be slapping a 10 percent tariff on aluminum imports so Again, this is more of his nationalism kind of ideas. Yeah, it's just gonna make everybody pay more money Yeah, but don't you This is the same move as the last one. Don't you don't you think that this could potentially don't you see him do potentially setting it up to Um, you know, this is just one move It's not the final move. I think you're looking at it like on steel too, by the way Okay, so but it's the same thing as the last argument we had about that when we were in, uh, austin, right? Here's here's what is between it was uh, it was what was he taxed it solar it was solar panels, right, right? It just makes it more expensive. It's all it does. It's it makes it makes whatever product what it does is it's adding a tax So he's trying to control and force people to buy here right inside of here, which you're right It doesn't do anything economically for us right now. But what if they're that's this is that's the short move right now There's a long play. Well, there no Short long whatever if accidentally it turns into something good great But but really all all you're doing is you're taking You're making people spend more money for something they could have spent less money on so It's not and where's that tariff tariff going by the way? Who's getting that money the government? It's no different than a tax. It's no different than him saying We're gonna raise taxes on something the only difference is I don't know if he's gonna if he's if he's gonna cut back on taxes like for entrepreneurs and Corporations to grow and get bigger and he's gonna take that because he's cut taxes there He's gonna slap it on other places that are transporting goods from out of the country It doesn't sound like that bad of an idea to me. It sounds like Sounds like nothing. It doesn't sound like anything is the first part's great Pay less taxes. I like that the second part doesn't just the doesn't isn't justified because the first part It's not like he's to making a deal It's just moving money around and who's getting that money. Who's the winner? Who's the loser? Well, listen listen to his tweet his tweet He goes our steel and aluminum industries have been decimated by decades of unfair trade and bad policy What the fuck does that mean with countries from around the world? We must not let our country companies and workers be taken advantage of any longer We want fair and smart trade and so what he's doing is he's appealing to this nationalism And just raising the price of things and saying this is to help the american worker What's happening is he's what he's doing is he's subsidizing american jobs With other people's money where you know, you might not one of us wanted to have spend it So like for example the cost of beer is probably going to go up Because or all things in cans all things in aluminum cans probably going to go up now So we'll see that Right away right after he implements this you're going to go buy a coke or a beer or whatever and you're going to see An increase in price because the can is more expensive because the aluminum now I have less of a problem with with taxing things that like Aluminum cans solar solar and some of that then I think with the way we make it so difficult to even start a business And the amount that we heavily tax companies. I would I mean I agree with you, you know, but at the same time Trying to Plan an economy from the top Never work. Well, that's the the real question is is it even possible? You know, could could could anybody come in and actually in the state that we're in right now You know, could any fucking president come in and make all the right fucking perfect moves like and make everybody happy It's just not possible. No, no too. Yeah, and it's just I think the nationalism part's the one that always worries me just because You know, I've seen nationalism come through like countries like Germany and I saw what that did So it's just like it's red flags for me that I don't want You know this to become a divisive thing of us separating us from the entire world where it's like, you know Now we're creating conflict for no reason. He's pushing for a military parade like a huge Which is nothing wrong with with, you know, celebrating our, you know veterans and stuff like that But we haven't had a military parade in a long time and it just When you think of a big military parade with like tanks and stuff like that Which I don't know what this one's gonna look like. It just brings up images of yes North korea, you know, don't you feel like he don't you feel like he's just kind of posturing with other Totally that's how I see that's that's the thing that's like I get it on. Yeah if it was like just that but This is like increasing with momentum with Obama was such a pussy. I'm okay. I'm kind of okay with he was You know, and now we're the other way, right? We went from a total pussy and a pushover to now the guy who's like Oh, fuck, he could push the red button any day. Well, you know, here's the deal Obama look like a pussy, but he actually bombed more countries with drone strikes than bush it so That's it's all about hey, that's a pussy move still by the way. Maybe I think it's just the public you're public, you know, who you are or whatever Um, I don't even I might have been different had he not followed bush who was such a hawk and you know going to war with everybody but nonetheless, it's just You know, trump does a lot of things some things that are good and for economically speaking and some things that are just And he's supported by his base because he's a republican When that is against it's supposed to be again It's against free and open markets and if you're a conservative and you stand for those things You should not be so I don't give a shit Who's the president? I don't care if it's on your side or the other side If they pass some shit that like he know what he just did with with the you made a comment about Gun control and he said, uh, you know, take the gun first follow due process. Second process later Whoa, come on dude do process. That's the due process is first. That's why it's called due process So he says a lot of shit that really worries me that that was alarming for sure Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that he does that kind of worries me a little bit. He hasn't I don't know hasn't necessarily in terms of policy been like Again, like I look at the policies, right? I look at like You know the national defense authorization actor the patriot actor things that are really fucking scary And sometimes the presidents come out and they sound really good But then you look behind the behind the scenes trump sounds a lot worse than he is many times many times He just tweets and you're like, oh my god, he sounds terrible. And then you're like, well, he's just no I think he's just a buffoon. I think that's part of his reaction. Maybe I don't even think it's him tweeting You think someone else really no, I staff 100% I believe that 100% I think that I think that's part of the campaign strategy and now that he's no longer campaign I think that's part of the presidency strategy Is I think there is a brilliant mind behind all of that that is pretending to be his voice I don't think the motherfucker tweets. Did you ever watch you're the fucking president I barely have time to tweet or instagram if I was a president I would find I don't know man. Sometimes some of his tweets. Yeah, I'd fire whoever wrote no See, I think that I think that's all there's like a guy There's a very specific guy that was behind a lot of his campaigning course dude. No, I know there's a netflix series I'm trying to remember the name of it, but it's like called Whatever his name is and and like I watched the whole trump family one. I saw that one Okay, this is a different one, but like yeah, he's responsible for a couple different like campaigns politically And I mean who's to say he's not still orchestrating things like you said I think it would be naive of us to think that you get all the way up to presidency And you lack some sort of brilliance like that. You can hate someone love them praise them talk all good all bad I'm uh, but bullshit. Okay. Let's see you go become the president and see what it takes to do that Oh And never in a million years that I want to do that shit Right, right like I mean you got to be a motherfucking gangster to get all the way to that point and you I tell you what your your five steps ahead of 99 of the population whether they they think it or not And I know there's a bunch of fucking really smart people are going like It's like, okay, buddy You know what I'm saying well to be able just to be able to handle the scrutiny With being in a position like that Fuck that stress. I wouldn't want I I envision this I envision like you win the presidency You just went through hell Everything was just focused on you Half the country absolutely hates you because I don't care what you do Half the country's gonna hate you right right then you you're sworn in and you're like, oh, this is great I'm the president now. Let's get to work. Then they bring you in the office They sit you down close the doors and like all right, uh, we're the ones that run. Yeah, here's the deal Here's the deal now. Yeah, you're allowed. This is how shit is right Right. We have yeah aliens invaded earth 50 years ago. They control the warp monster There's lizard people underground. That's what tom de long would say you just go downstairs and bowl That's all you're allowed to do That's all you're allowed to do bro. Yeah, here's what you're gonna say today. You're looking at like, I don't want to say this Shit's terrible. Everybody thinks you're an asshole. So we're gonna tweak that way So just we're gonna say we're gonna keep going with this asshole narrative. Yeah, exactly You're gonna have to be that guy. I believe that man. I I believe it's I mean here. Look at we're talking about it You know I'm saying like we're talking about it If he and to me that is what he's in search of and that's how he got to where he's at Right now is people talking about him and you know, you know what this guy's gonna You know this guy's gonna make so much money when he's out of Of course, he's gonna start like a series or a TV network. No, no, no That's what he's gonna do a news network mark my words media company mark my words the real news Yes called the real not fake news. He is going to start a news network. I guarantee it I bet money on it. That's a pretty smart strategy You know, is there like a thing when you sign as a president though? You can't do certain things like that for X amount of years. No, I don't think it's like no come on. Yeah I don't compete with our country and our government. Right. I feel like I feel like you shouldn't be able to do like a newspaper and news network I believe with all the connections that you have that could be like the dirtiest fucking play ever Trump's real news network real news all the time like the biggest mistake we did was like taking him out of office You know now he's really fucking us. Yeah, at least in office. He's not really doing it. Right. We're keeping him busy The best thing of president bowling a lot the best thing a president can do is get in office and like shrink government and do Nothing let everybody else let everybody take care of what they're supposed to do let the market do what it's supposed to just don't Fuck we don't throw any wrenches in the machine. The problem is you know What that sounds like that sounds like if like somebody came in we hired a ceo for mine pump and they come in They're like, you know what? I love this company mine pump and I'm gonna reduce the income I'm saying like no one of these motherfuckers want to do that. They all pretend like it You don't say when they all come in and they see all the revenue all the opportunity like fuck this I ain't gonna reduce anything. I'm telling you right. It's that's oh my god That's exactly what happens though. Don't you do the same thing and that would be the same attitude You would never see a ceo come in take over this company. Look at the revenue streams and go You know what I think I think we're gonna shut some of these revenue streams off. I'd love it I'd love it if somebody somebody got up there and was like, oh, you know what I'm doing now Everybody in congress. This is your last term because everybody can only serve a couple terms now And then you can never do it again. Yeah, and then boom assassinated Yeah, you're done. All right. We doing an unboxing. We are thrive market Unboxing speaking of sponsors one of our favorite. 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This is uh, this is a question that I've had to ask myself several times throughout my life and I I think everybody goes through this especially if you're a growth-minded individual and what I mean by that is growth-minded individuals tend to want to improve and change and find new things that Influences the way they live and they get new information. They change how they do certain things They're trying to evolve You're trying to evolve and I think everybody you know evolves of course to a certain degree But there's a lot of people who kind of stay stuck and rigid in a particular way because you know growth is scary and change is scary But you know, here's here's what I've come up with for myself, and I don't know if this is the right answer But this made sense to me when I first came up with it. There are going to be people that you encounter in your life That you're going to connect with over Things events and in hobbies So those are going to be people you're going to connect with who they're into the same things as you so if you're Become a coffee aficionado And you make me make a friend who's totally into coffee and you guys bond over over coffee What a random thing for you to choose. I was going to say alcohol because that's but I was like I was like, what is that? I love that you know you have a friend that you just you and her just love coffee And you just don't want to break it up a lot of people like coffee adam But you know, I think you get what I mean like there's something that you're passionate about it. Maybe you and you're yeah I thought sports. Yeah, maybe a sport you played on a team or you know, you and you're you know You're out and you're trying to pick up on girls and you meet a guy Who's into picking up on girls and you guys go out together and that's what you bond over stereo. I like your style Exactly, you know, and though there's those people that you meet And you can great develop great relationships great friendships have great memories and you're going to meet A lot more of those kinds of people Versus the second kind of people who you're going to connect with Over the fact that you're both growth minded that you're both growth oriented that you're you're connected on a more core level Those are the rare ones and those are the ones that tend to stick around and it's usually like a couple people Um, everybody else falls in the first category where you know, I had friends that I you know When I was doing jiu-jitsu we would bond over jiu-jitsu or When I was in school, you know, we we because we went to school together or because I like to party or whatever And we would bond over those things, but then when I change and grow And my interest changed I no longer bond with these kinds of people. I mean, you know, I think a lot of guys have experienced this when They get married, you know, they've got their buddies that they go out and drink with and party with And then they meet a girl They fall in love they get married they have kids and then they still have that buddy who Never got married or never really grew past it still wants to go out and party and drink And you just don't have you just don't you can't connect with them because you don't do that same thing anymore And it's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. And I think the challenge is I know the challenge for me was I felt like I wasn't honoring How important they were to me or how, you know, awesome they were at a particular time in my life So it's almost like I wanted to stay friends with them because I felt like if I didn't I wasn't honoring What good people they were But in reality, it's it's actually more of an honor to acknowledge it and also acknowledge that you're different now And you just you just do different things. Um, I don't think you need to break up with anybody. I know, uh, You know, I've had friends that were girls who tend to do this with other girls We're like, I can't hang out with you. I think it's kind of weird Guys don't really do that so much. I think, you know, we just kind of slowly stopped several times You broke up with the guy. Absolutely. Absolutely. I just in fact, what did you say in this last year? I've actually had this conversation twice. What do you say to break up with the guy? Well, first of all, it It normally leads to this like so I try and and I I wouldn't say it's over dinner with music No, no, no, no, it's been like talking in person. This is the last time we're going to do it No, no, no, it's like this. So here's here's a deal like I think that I like to like handles when you look at all the people that you you surround yourself with like the friends That have been with you forever and and they're a part of your growing up in childhood or adolescence And then you have your friends your your adult friends that you have now and when you look at them collectively There's there tends to be in most groups that I know there's a handful of people Uh in in your circle that you've start to learn that they're they are not feeding your flame You're not they're not into maybe where you are or they're not growth minded like you are And in fact they could potentially be somewhat holding you back But yet you're torn because fuck I've I had 10 15 years of childhood with them and My mom still talks to them and they love they're like family to me So I kind of look at it like they're they're they're family But I don't hang out with all my family and even talk to all my family on a very very regular basis And so if you're if you're looking at your friends like the like 80 percent of the people that you're spending the time with Should be the ones that are feeding your flame And then the other 20 could be like in which to me that means like once every couple months I'm catching up with some of these close friends that go all the way back to childhood But what I started doing was I didn't make a big deal about it at first I just we went I went I had friends that I literally hung out with every single weekend like every weekend We were all single dudes. We weren't in relationships It was always about drinking or playing video games or just fucking around every weekend and you know that Those that's those set of friends are still friends of mine I just spend about you know 80 percent or 90 percent less of the time with them And I just what I stopped doing was I I stopped making myself available for those same weekends and eventually That started a conversation or a hey, bro. What the fuck? You know, we used to get together every single weekend and when and when that opportunity arose So they corner you like that then yeah, it would make sense. You have to have that conversation I thought you were like calling them up. Hey, Johnny. Do you have a talk with you? I've had that happen, but it's just been more of a natural like You know, I'm moving moving past like certain groups of guys I used to hang out with where it's just like did it You know, I have all this stuff going on where I didn't have to really explain it anymore It was just like I'm not available. I'm not available like I used to be, you know, and it's no It's no bad feeling or like I'm I'm I'm moving away from you purposely. It's just that it doesn't make sense You know for me to um, you know being that space anymore So listen radical honesty is always the way to go in situations like this And it's hard sometimes because you're worried about their feelings But I had another friend that was you know Reaching out to me because he wanted to go fishing all the time And I kept turning it down turning it down turning it down and he finally was like, you know Hey, man, what the fuck like, you know, we're we're best of friends And I go induce it things sometimes that with you that you that I'm not into as much And I said, listen, you know, I've I've come to realize that all of us are very busy guys We've all grown up and out of a lot of the hobbies that we used to do together Although we still love some of these things snowboarding wakeboarding basketball these were into sports And so we have that still in common But now we've grown older and now we're into other things like fishing and golf You know, and I'm more into like business and breeding and shit like that So, you know, we have these different interests and I said listen I don't expect you guys to come up and go get a workout with me because you guys have no fucking desire to do that So I'm not gonna bug you or ask you about but I also don't Hold that against you and think that we're less of friends because of that It's that our interests have changed as we've gotten older And I'm I'm okay with that. I'm okay. I love that you have found this passion for fishing And you're fucking really good at it and you love doing it And I don't want to take away from that and maybe sometimes if everything lines up I'm gonna come but I'm most certainly not going to go out of my way to go go fishing I just don't want to you know, I just don't have a desire or what sort now I have a desire to see you and so I'm sure if I hadn't seen you in a really long time That I would I would probably take up a fishing opportunity just to see you But to be honest with you I'd rather not Yeah, but have you guys ever hang have you guys ever been in a situation though where you you've Changed and grown and then you all of a sudden Not that you don't like the person like I don't like you I hate you but just Like all of a sudden like wow I get nothing out of even hanging out with you no matter what So I just had a friend and that I told you guys that I went and Went to the OKC and the warrior game with he picked up a limo to a I hadn't hung out with him in over two years And We kind of had this breakup thing And you know when we saw each other it was nothing but love and I told him I love you and you know I hope you're always in my life somewhat, you know But I don't hang out with him and part of the reason why I don't hang out with him Is because he kind of got stuck in our hometown and you know He was kind of into the same shit that we were into when we were 15 years old and You know, he started to make up a lot of stories and and tell a lot of lies and You know, it always was weird to me because I was like man, I love you for no matter who you are I don't need you don't need a story tell and so I literally just kind of cut him off from conversation He would he would call me in the during the week and he'd want to talk on the phone like for hours And you know half the conversation we sports the other half the conversation would be some made-up story to impress me And I finally just told him I said man Hey, I don't I don't have time right now in my life to have these types of conversations all the time and kind of ghosted him man, and I think that Because I was honest with him and I said that to him I think at first he was a little kind of like butthurt But over time we have mutual friends and I would always tell I would always speak highly of him and say I love him man. He's like he's like family to me. He's like they cut He's like that cousin that you know you have no business fucking hanging out with like he's fucking around doing drugs He's doing stupid shit, but he's still your cousin. You know what I'm saying? So I look at it like that like he's still family to me like the guy's been through a lot with me as a kid I've just grown out of him. Yeah, I've had to deal with that like some of my friends from high school that Were kind of like your tough guy, you know like like the tough guy thing I'm I have no place for the tough guy thing and so like I've I've definitely kind of eliminated that kind of energy that's around me anymore It's just like it doesn't serve me in any fashion Anymore like and some people that still hold on to that and like try to posture and and we go places and be a certain attitude and oh You know the movie goodwill hunting. Yeah, like that's my crew of boys. Yeah, literally to a tee Just like that fucking around all riding together in the car and shit like that calling each other names talking shit to each other Oh, then we go beat up somebody say like that was literally like The crew I hung out with I think I think the more I think really what starts to happen really if you peel it back is If you are you are not being your own real true authentic self And so you connect with people with this maybe not the authentic part of you or this Like posturing like, you know, we all go through it when we're kids like trying to be tough or trying to be the guy That does but it may not be a real true authentic self And you're putting that out and you're connecting over it But then as you peel back these layers and start to become who you really are It's such a visible insecurity. Well, it's ridiculous if you look at your friends that you know, you're not supposed to be with That's a huge reflection of yourself And I'll give you an example What I mean by that with the friends that I was just saying about that, you know We get in fights and we used to that was because I had this thing that go to all the way back to childhood My father I don't have my father after seven years old A lot of moving around I didn't have a lot so loyalty meant everything to me So these guys that I would hang around with that I knew that if we got into a brawl, they would take your back They would get my back. They would take a bottle over the head. They were family to me They were blood brothers, you know, so I and that was this is my own insecurities This is my own childhood stuff that I would I'm attracted to that and I grew out of that because I figured that out So if you are showing you're proving your own loyalty, right, right So if you if you have a circle of people that you have a hard time breaking free from Part of why you have a hard time breaking free for them is they're they're providing or they're feeding an insecurity of yours That's probably rooted back to childhood that you're still trying to either work through or maybe you've worked through it But you haven't learned how to cut that off from here's a good sign When you know that you're hanging out with someone that you're probably kind of over When you meet up with them and the only things that you guys can talk about are the old times or other people Yeah, old shit like we get together and it's like nothing about now or moving forward It's all about right all the shit that we did before and then you're done telling stories and then you're like You know now what I mean, like I said for there's a few people that I Honestly connect with on a very core level and really it's it's We connect over character. We connect over over growth So I know because we connect over growth no matter where we grow We're always going to connect versus connecting over things or events or insecurities or are inauthentic selves So consider it a good thing not a bad thing and it can be tough because it's a little bit scary Especially when I have a friend right now that's going through this. She's You know, she's got a bunch of friends who she hung out with a law and this friend of mine now is growing learning Quite a you know learning a lot of things about herself learning a lot of things about the world And it's really radically changing how she viewed things. I mean the reality is She didn't like fully believe in the same things her friends did But she just kind of went along with them. But now that she's where she's at now She's looking at her friends and she's like we don't connect over anything So she's got like five friends that she no longer connects with And and you know, I was talking to her about it and she's like this is really tough for me And we had this conversation. I said, yeah, but you've made these other new friends that you now are connecting On on different levels. She's like you're absolutely right. So it can be a scary thing But I don't know if there's necessarily an easy way to do it I think the best way to do is to be honest about it. Yeah, because you're not doing anybody any favors by You're not doing yourself any favors. That's for sure. And I don't think you're doing the other person any favors by pretending or trying And being inauthentic Next question is from Jen Kinzer Lee realtor How many times per week should females assuming it is different than for males hit each muscle group? So, uh, it's not it's not different, uh, for females the the biggest differences in individuals So, you know, if we if we look at the individual you can see that Beginners obviously Don't need to work out each muscle group as frequently as more advanced people and the funny thing is The old bodybuilding adage was actually the reverse. So the old You know when when body parts split routines were getting real popular Or at least the ones that showed you trained each body part once a week What they used to say was When you're a beginner you work out the whole body three days a week and then as you get more advanced You go to a split where you hit each body part once a week and you train like chest on monday and back on tuesday and so on And you do lots of volume I remember literally reading articles and articles and articles and muscle and fitness and flex magazine that said that exact thing The irony of that like a lot of the information we get in fitness is the complete opposite It's actually the opposite is true when you look at the actual studies They show that the muscle building signal the adaptation signal Peaks, uh, and then starts to drop after about 48 hours in beginners in advanced people That shit drops after some studies have showed 16 hours Wow So more frequent training is probably more beneficial the more advanced you get And less frequent training you can get away with a little bit more as your beginner now my experience as a trainer Completely supports that a hundred percent and my own personal experience with myself The more consistent I am with my workouts The more frequent I can work out and the more frequent I need to work out to continue to get my body to progress When I'm like taking a week or two weeks off or I haven't been training very hard Then less frequent like then becomes, you know, probably better because too frequent then is too much So I used to break it up in a month, right? So when I would be and I'm about to do this right now again So I would I would look at you're back into working out. Yeah, I'm only two days in right now So I'm back to that and it's extremely low amount of volume right now And of course I'm being very sensitive with my Achilles because it hasn't fully even healed But what I'll do is uh the first this whole first month. So I've got the fit bit back on I'm tracking my need. I'm I'm paying attention to how many Sets my total volume per muscle group and I'll look at that And in the entire month and I and I'll look at okay I hit the shoulders this many times this month I hit the chest this many times and I'll go through each muscle group And I'll look at that and then when I lead into the second month I'll now start to slowly increase The frequency on each of those so it doesn't always break out into this perfect Week a lot of times I think everybody wants to go Oh, I'm gonna hit the muscle one time or two time or three times a week But really the body doesn't work on this 24 hour seven day a week perfect clock So I like to look at it is like a a big month and I see how many times Or where my frequency is for each one of my muscle groups And then I slowly increase that and I think that the biggest mistake that I see anybody that that That is look you're searching further how much frequency I should do with a muscle group is they go from Not hitting it very frequently to all of a sudden hitting it two or three times because you hear on Mind pump that we encourage more frequency But we I still stick with You know always trying to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change And so the first month it's all about Doing that as little as possible to elicit some sort of change and tracking that and kind of seeing where I'm at And then building upon that. I mean if you're somebody who The first month goes by and you only hit the chest, you know five five times total the month Well the next month I'm going to take it up to six or seven, you know, which means maybe that one week I'm getting it two two times or I'm rotating it every five days or so or one of the math works out to To increase to six, right? So That's the strategy that I personally use myself and I've I've taught Especially competitors and clients that really care about progressing consistently like, you know, I think that's the key is that You know, if you're somebody who is really trying to sculpt and shape your body Setting a plan and being consistent is number one, right? Like we say this we haven't said this on the show in a long time Which was such a great statement that sal said a long time ago Which is even a crappy program done consistently is superior to the best program in the world done inconsistently So first being consistent and tracking what that frequency and what that looks like and then slowly increasing that that would be my advice Absolutely. Yeah, and you know when it comes to again, it depends on the individual like adam saying Start slow and see how your body responds, but you know as you get more advanced you can work out more frequently Here's the and here's the thing. I think a lot of people think we're anti body part split routines What we what we're anti is the concept of the super low frequency And super high volume, right? That's some of them advocate for because the split can work just fine If you know how to utilize frequency properly the old splits are all the one body part per week Yeah, and you're reasonable. Yeah about your volume within that workout. Yes. Yes. Absolutely I mean, I think I mentioned the the recent study right that shows that muscle damage isn't what causes or or or sets muscle growth in motion and in fact may actually reduce The amount of muscle growth and it's so funny because uh when you do this long enough you just start to learn things And you start to ignore the advice it works and then science catches up Did you talk about that you post it on the form? You know what speaking of the forum right now I just want to let everybody know this all month long that the the forum is free with any of our bundle purchases And this is the type of stuff that goes on our forum every single day. I post all these studies. Yeah on top of that. I mean too So I've been trying to focus a little bit more on, you know, the apparel side of things within the business And what's great is like I've been getting a lot of ideas and People that want certain things they'll they'll suggest them on the forum and guess what I read it So, you know if you guys ever want any kind of specific merchandise or have ideas whatever right now We have women's tanks available Which I know a lot of women have been like demanding and they've been like really looking forward to it And so far and when you're in the form you get half off on all the t-shirts. That's it So it's it's all like all this stuff is we definitely pay attention to that group So it's free all month long with any bundles Next question is from eat pretty food Do you think food sensitivities can play a large role in the inability to lose fat? Is there a test you would recommend? Definitely food sensitivity Excuse me can play a large role in your inability to lose fat. Of course, it depends on how Intolerant you are to a food or how big of a reaction you have to that food, but Consider this right there's from an inflammation perspective. Well. Yeah. I mean hormones, right? So They have these things called continual glucose monitors Gsm's And you can put them on and they will measure your Glucose levels levels in real time So you can eat a food you can look at the the device And you can see like oh, there's my blood sugar going up and there's the crash and you can start connecting it to how you Feel on that stuff, right? So Since they've had these devices and they've been running tests they found that some interesting interesting things Have happened with some people Where somebody will have a higher insulin or or glucose spike With say, you know oatmeal then they will with a cookie You know things that you don't expect right because the glycemic index says Quite specifically that sugar is going to give you a higher spike than say You know a more complex carbohydrate and yet some people are the reverse or some people would eat something That had no any no carbohydrates in it, you know or very little protein It's something that you would think has no effect on you know, blood Insulin is spiking and yes yet their glucose will spike and so it's like what the hell is going on Well, what's probably happening is they're eating something that has that's a food intolerant That they're intolerant to I should say They're getting an immune reaction to it. So it's a stress response in the body That spikes cortisol cortisol tells the the liver Release sugar because remember your liver stores The vast majority of the glycogen in your body is stored in your liver or a lot of it is stored in your liver And when your body is in fight or fly it releases all the sugar to give you ready Energy so anytime you're stressed out right like if you're in a room and a burglar walks in with a gun You're going to have a spike in In in blood sugar and that's good because it'll it'll help you move fast and react to whatever danger is there Well, it reacts like that to any stress including, you know too intensive exercise or you know a thought but also A food intolerance. So if you have a food intolerance Your blood sugar levels are rising and dropping Much more so than they would without the food intolerance that can contribute to The inability inability to lose fat because we all know what happens when your blood sugar rises and then crashes You typically get a huge appetite boost It can also cause inflammation which then You know further, you know exacerbates the issue it can cause Water retention. I've seen people remove food intolerances from their diet not change their calories not change their macros And lose water weight, but then also find that it's much easier for them Besides of course they feel better and all that stuff But then it becomes much easier for them To eat quote-unquote healthy because they're not getting these wild fluctuations and in autoimmune type reactions This is the type of stuff that I I wish that I understood it new when I was a young trainer, man You remember you remember having clients where you're like fuck dude, they're doing everything They're supposed to be doing wire days. Yeah, they just they come in they're heavier, you know They're complaining about being bloated. Yeah, just not seeing results And you can't put your finger on exactly what it is because you're looking at all the basic stuff You're looking at the macros and you're like wish our big rocks, right? Yeah, they're important right right and you're looking at your programs But there was always that exception the rule that it just didn't add up. It's like why is this person I used to sometimes think they were lying Oh a lot of times I did yeah, and and I feel bad now because Back then I just figured like oh this client isn't ready for real results and success yet because they just haven't made That mental switch yet to really be disciplined and now I feel bad because I think back like man Probably a good half of those maybe more because there of course there are some that are being fucking lazy and probably lying I mean, that's just bottom line They still are you know, but they were probably more of the outliers And there was probably a lot of people that struggled with things like this that just didn't know and I think We're seeing it. It's more common now than ever, you know, yeah I mean think about it this way. Do you think your body is going to be more effective at At adapting in positive ways building muscle burning body fat if you're healthy versus if you're not as healthy Yeah, right. Yeah, it's it's it's substantial And I think that too even going through like my own little process of like Oh, yeah, what did you we you've removed some foods recently? Yeah Yeah, I have removed removed a lot of grains in my diet and um To be honest like I've been I've been trying to really get my digestive Um You know rituals down a lot better. So that way I'm like chewing my food, you know I'm not drinking like cold water with it. Like you said, it's suppressing You know the the acid uh to to maintain its normal function of like breaking down foods And so like my biggest issue was that I was sort of uh bypassing all that natural process And so then it turned into You know where I would be inflamed all the time and I would have like acid reflux and I didn't realize What a substantial impact that was making just on me retaining Um, you know water and and and also feeling like you know, my metabolism wasn't what it used to be So it's interesting to see like I know it's all very much of a Upposibo or or or anecdotal anecdotal. Thank you But at the same time it's it like I'd noticed me just working on that has already Paid off as far as like me kind of leaning out and then well, you're definitely taller. Thanks I've definitely grown inches. Yeah, it's it's it's you know, here's the here's the question I like to ask people when they say when night people will debate me about this right like, oh no food intolerances somebody debates you Yeah, I know crazy. I thought I thought I'm gonna like crazy No, they'll be like, you know food intolerances don't have a bigger role in in fat loss It's it doesn't play a big role at all and I'll say well do hormones Play a role in fat loss And and of course like nobody's gonna deny that like if you If your hormones are off your fat storage is uh, it's different you'll store it differently on your body You may store more body fat Like if you're a man and you have low testosterone You're going to store more body fat than if you have higher testosterone. I couldn't attest to that. Yeah Yeah, I think you were commenting on that, right? No, it's a trip man. It's a it changes how you Yeah, it even changes how I carry the weight It's a fucking trip right now to watch what my body went through the last six months Like it's a wonder I didn't jump off some bridge, bro. It's fucking hell of depressing. Don't say that. No, it's very depressed actually, and I and I definitely can Relate to any man that has gone through that and I think it's given me a ton of empathy for because You know, it wasn't just as simple as okay, let's try and fix these hormones there was a major psychological piece and As a man when you won first of all have been kept yourself in really good shape Most of your life and even when I kind of fell out of shape. I still was in decent shape and then to see Uh, myself put body fat on that's one thing That's already challenging and then to get hurt and then to see how my body started to add body fat It just it created this kind of pear shape that I've never had like even when I would put on weight before I'd get like this little bit of a tummy or I would lose You know, I get softer, you know, or I get a little back fat away, but I've got like these like It's fucking weird as pear shape, dude. Like it's so weird, dude. It's it's so not fuckable, bro Depends though. Yeah, I thought you were looking kind of cute Yeah, he's getting some hips on him No, but it changes how you know Hormones play does I I could concur Hormones play a role. So can food sensitivities cause changes to hormones? Definitely Next question is from zeleznyak vera. How do you define failure? It's the first step to success. If you can't learn to lose well, you're never going to be a good winner That's it. That's it right there. Okay for we're done. Yeah, that's it For for me for me failure is uh, not learning so if I Do something if I take a step towards something If I start a business or if I make a decision on something or if I try and do an exercise And I you know, quote-unquote fail at achieving my goal And I don't learn from that Then that's a failure how we should have defined. Is this is this muscle failure? Is this like so No, I think it's total failure like just failure like you said, well, I think yeah Because I was interpreting it too like as far as like how I Uh Maybe if I react emotionally or something first is like my go-to Uh response, you know, then I fail, you know where I uh, you know, sometimes I guess I don't know Yeah, you've been a failure a lot. You should be able to talk about this I have I haven't failed a lot of things. So I think it's part of the natural process No, let me take risks How's the quote go right on the uh other side of failure resides success, right? So I I truly believe that it's if you're going to have true success I think failure is necessary and and that's what I meant by If you're going to be a winner, you have to learn to lose And I think where the growth happens is in the losses and in the failures The growth doesn't happen in win. I've never wanted something or succeeded something like that and grew That's not when I grew I grew along the way failing trying to get to a success And so the real gyms are hidden within the failures And I think that's what teaches us the most about ourselves on life as a great teacher. Yeah, I mean failing For me, it's like if you if you get like knocked down, but you just get You get to a place in a space like mentally where you just feel like Well, no, I give up. That's it. You know, that that's the last straw Do you know what I like? I don't know what I don't remember how old I was I get knocked down You gotta get back up, man. I made this switch where Not only was I okay with failure, but I embraced it so much that I I almost seeked it out and not that I would like approach something and say like hey I'm gonna try and fail at this but I was so comfortable and okay with it and the way I looked at it was I know the answer now You know, if I fail that it the answer is no now, you know what I'm saying? I know I know what not to do. Yeah, I know try something else Right. I know now. I know that's I thought that was the right answer It's called learning I put my I put everything I had into it I busted my ass towards it. I wanted it to win. I wanted to succeed. I failed But guess what? I now know that that is not the path to success for whatever that was that I was trying to do So now it's technically success. What are some of the hardest lessons you guys have had to learn? Hardest failures Yeah, like have you well what I mean by that is have you ever had to learn a lesson like Two or three times before you're like, okay, I get it. Fuck. I keep making that same Is anything like that ever happen to you? I'm sure it has I'm trying to think of a Yeah, an example for you. I think just Yeah, like swinging the bat and like going pursuing ideas and You know, you just learn a lot from from going all in on something and then like if it if it Turns into something completely different than that and it's all about how you respond to it So sometimes you'll nail it But you'll never nail it like right out of the park of the very first time So it's hard for me to look at things initially as a failure as as like you guys are saying like it's a teaching moment But uh, there's there's the point where it doesn't it doesn't make sense anymore to keep pursuing it And so that's the line you have to find here's a lesson. I've learned. Uh, I had to learn twice Um, and then I finally learned it. I'm a very I have an old school mentality towards business in the sense that You know, when I make a deal with someone or if I say something to someone, uh It's I can't I'm not going to go against what I said even if there's nobody in the room It's just mean another person your word is your bond right? Yeah, like like so much so that It would uh, it would be very painful and destructive for me to even go against my own word like even if I said something that later I regretted I'd be like well I said it so now I'm going to stick to it and the problem with that was that I assumed or felt like The other side was that same way And that it was a painful lesson. I've had to learn a couple times where I got to the point where if I did a business deal with someone And it's almost like here's a deal like you know when you have to like let's say we make a deal with each other I'm like, okay, we're going to do this business We're going to split this 50 50 and we all shake hands and I got lots of integrity Pulling out that piece of paper that contract and then signing it to me Felt like an assault on my integrity because it's almost like an like, uh, it's almost offensive Like what do you mean sign that of course? You you know, I'm not going to break my bond right like not that I I consciously thought that but subconsciously it just felt weird and it only felt weird because I know how I am And I'm extremely like I'm going to fucking stick to my word But I had to learn that lesson a couple times where the other person all of a sudden comes up with something different And then you know, we go back and forth and I'm like, oh shit like I never I should have had them sign something and I know this is like Modern business right people like you're an idiot. Of course they have to sign something But I had to learn that and so I did that with somebody actually went into a potential business venture with a friend And we went into it together and I you know as much as I trusted them and as much integrity as I had I said, you know what? I don't want to have to learn this lesson again the the hard way So I actually wrote out a contract and I had them sign it and I saved that contract and what did you fucking know it Six months later this person tried to back out and owed me like $6,000 and That contract luckily I brought that out and they still tried to go against it and we had to go to small claims court And I got my $6,000, you know that they owed me But uh, man, that's a that was a lesson. I've had to learn a couple times actually Yeah, I was just thinking I added a really vague answer. So I wanted to be a little more specific To you know, like what we actually talked to to ben about when we were in tampa um to the fact that like he He couldn't um once you start something. It's like you can't quit like that goes against the grain for you, right? And so like that that being a driving mechanism for me too, and I really identified with that um, that's been something that has been super challenging when it comes to Allowing something to die, you know allowing a pursuit to die And what does that even look like because I don't I didn't even know what that looked like I sat the bench my junior year I think for baseball because I didn't make any of the practices in spring Or this this coach valued it and I sat and went through the entire season sitting the bench And been miserable and fucking hated it and all that just because I don't quit like that was like like Everything like revolves around not quitting something that I said I was doing And which gave me no out Right when to benefit me sometimes like even more and like my family and people around me would be to You know like let one part like let this pursuit die Feed more into this pursuit, right? So that's something that's really hard for me that highlights your character because you're You believe so much in integrity that you wouldn't even like it's your word to yourself almost, right? Like I'm not going against what I said to me right unit of my own self Which I think failure arguably could be the greatest teacher ever I think it's the only teacher. I really do. I don't there's a lot of teachers at universities and so I mean literally though I think that You know the more you get this and you embrace this and again like that's why I meant by like I would seek it out Is because nothing will teach you more Then pursuing something whether it be a goal or a business plan or a relationship or an idea And then failing at it nothing will teach you more than that nothing because sometimes I feel like we're we're blinded by our own ego our own insecurities our own like Distractions I feel like so many times that you can you have a goal or an idea that you want and you and you fall So much in love with it that you marry it Without having any real perspective and sometimes you need a big fucking slap in the face called failure To wake you up and go like no dude. You weren't really looking at that correctly You didn't think about this you didn't think about that you forgot about this you didn't plan for that And then there there's your lesson right there, you know So I think where people make the mistake is when they hit the is the the people that Fail and then instantly want to put blame on everybody else never learn shit about themselves And so then then failure is is nothing but a poor bad habit for that person But I think if you truly look at every failure as an incredible teaching opportunity Then fuck bring them on man. Bring them on because I just that's you're going to grow faster that way. Absolutely All right, go to your app application in your phone and get the mind pump app you can actually Search all of our episodes by keywords. So if you want to look up Fat loss muscle building you want to look up glute training Maps anabolic whatever put in the search function. 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