 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast. We are Bushless today. We've all gone Brazilian. We have gone Brazilian. We talked about the manscaped stuff last week and he's not here this week so there you go. What can you say? Do you think we need to start imposing sanctions? It's looking that way. I'm getting a bit concerned about his commitment levels to be honest with you. I think he's fine. He does. He blames it on his job. Maybe just maybe he's the only one out of the four of us that does have a viable other job. I don't think that he should use that to just not show up. Last night I was in our little test goes getting some tea and then suddenly he's just like a message saying, Oh, I can't be there. Thinking, well, we're all here. You could have told us. He's putting it in the group. Only this morning. Oh, they tell this morning. Oh yeah, it wasn't this morning. No, it wasn't this morning. It wasn't this morning. He couldn't even do us the service of telling us last night. I don't feel like it's like because he's doing better than us. I think we've transcended real jobs. We don't need the man. We haven't got the commercial overload. He's got the commercial overload. He's got the commercial overload. We haven't. We're flying free. We are. Freewheeling. And he's stuck in his lane. How many is it now? This has got to be four or five. Yeah. Isn't it out of 13? He's definitely. Very much the Domino Calve. Yeah, we've got to see the Domino Calve alone off the podcast. I know. And as I said to you before, you know, I'm very much the James Tarkowski. Mm-hmm. And so far and ever present. Yeah. Got good hair, like Tarkowski as well. Thank you. And he could, Bush could be sponsored by Braun as well, couldn't he? It all works. It all works together. And synergy. Synergy. There you go. That was the commercial overload. Well, yeah, it's true. Dave, how are you finding life without Evan? I'm really enjoying it. Genuinely, I'm really, really enjoying it. You know, I mean, I could have waited longer to answer your question. But no, I mean, it's just the world seems to be in a better place. I mean, despite the fact that we're living through this bizarre world cup, which I can't really get my head around. And it still angers me. I mean, it's still really, really angers me, the fact that it's even happening. I mean, it shouldn't be happening at all, full stop. And the fact that it is, yeah, I find irritating. But the fact that we don't have any disappointing results to try and dissect on a Tuesday at this moment in time is only a good thing, I think. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Listen, England, they're going to get through tonight. And we're going to call it a two. There was no point waiting until tomorrow. Wales have to beat them four nil. That's not happening. That's just not happening. So I mean, if it does happen, I'm going to sound really stupid. But it can't see it. I can't see it. It's unlikely, isn't it? It's been a weird world cup, isn't it? Because it's like, we've watched like basically every game. Most lovely game. But it just feels so... I don't know. It just, you don't see... I don't know if I've said this before, but you're not really seeing any of the outside life. It's just what happens in that stadium. It's been the stadium, yeah. And you know, and if you live in China, you're only seeing what's happening on the pitch. You're not even seeing what's happening in the stands because they don't want to alienate anyone. But it just doesn't... I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad world cup, but I'm not feeling the whole like, you know... It's not like the car. You're not feeling the culture, you know. Dario G, you'd have a terrible time trying to write a song about this world cup. He'd have a terrible time. He'd be struggling, wouldn't he? He'd be struggling. You know, don't get a feel for it. And the other day I was watching it, and you know the way normally when you've got a world cup, and there's always a certain affection maybe is too strong a word, but a slight fondness for the host nation in terms of the fact that you think, well, you know what? They've put on this wonderful festival of football and they're such lovely people and they've made everybody from around the world feel so welcome and included. And for that reason, we actually really want to see you do well, almost to the point where you might be our second team. You know, after our own nation, we'd really like to see you do well. Not this one, right? No. Because everyone's sitting there thinking, I can't wait for Qatar to go no further than the backstage. And I take what's weird about that as well, because you can't sit here going, well, it's probably on the ground, it's probably terrible. I imagine the people there are nice, and I imagine the people are trying, but the people who are running the world cup don't want to let us see that either. They don't really want to let us see anything. That's the real weird thing, that you think there'd be a real propaganda push to show us all the good things that are going on in Qatar. And maybe what it is is just that, our TV channels have just gone, no, we're not getting involved in that. We're not playing that game. Both TV channels have sort of said from day one, haven't they? We're not really going to show you anything. So maybe it's just, maybe it's just that. I don't know, I know. Do you reference the fella running on with the rainbow flag yesterday, and the Superman thing? Yeah. Do you actually reference that children image of them, our TV companies? Now, what do you try to do normally if there's any, like, streaker or anything like that? They don't reference their theory, or they don't shine them, shine them, and they were like, this fella got on, and he was doing this, and he was doing that. That's the last time I ever going to see him. That's why. Do you know what I thought was weird about this? And I hope that this doesn't come across in the wrong way. But I think, you know, fair play, the fact that he has made his statement, and I think we can all back, you know, the feelings behind that. But I felt as if he had one opportunity, and therefore he had to go quite broad with his message. Yeah, because there was no real focus there, was there? And I don't mean this to be a criticism, but, you know, he was going for Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, rather, not Ukraine, Ukraine and Iranian women at the same time, you know, and I thought, well, you know, he's got his opportunity. I mean, he could have, he could have gone on with a, with a no more oil thing on there as well. He was like, was he like a formula? I was going to say he's the Formula One driver, a protestor, wasn't he? Formula One. Just got a lot of stuff going on. He had one open and took it. He's protesting against Superman as well. I don't know. I've protested for Superman, maybe for Superman. But at least he had one chance and he took it. He's listening, he's just going and going, well, you did, I don't like that, and I don't like that. But fair play to him with actually, hey, managing to get into the stadium with that kind of stuff. Let's hope he gets out of the stadium. That's the one. I mean, that's the main, getting in is one thing, but getting out, I think, is another thing. Do you know one other thing that I haven't mentioned on here, which I think I have a theory on, and it's the banning of the rainbow armbands by FIFA, because they don't want to upset the Qataris and they're broad-minded thinking in terms of the world. And I feel disappointed that large nations such as England and Germany and Spain and whatnot haven't decided just to go ahead with it and have actually bowed down to FIFA's threat of sanctions, which quite frankly is ludicrous. Surely if the likes of England, Germany, France, Spain, I mean, a whole load of big nations all got together and said, do you know what, with the greatest respect, bollocks to that, right? We're going to do it anyway. And actually, if they start to impose sanctions, then so be it. What are they going to do? Are they going to kick them all out? Because they won't have a will. And what that will do is that will make FIFA's stance on this so ridiculous and absurd, and surely it will overturn it. And I just wish that somebody actually had the balls to do it, even if it was a collective thing. I'm sure they've all done it, USA. You're talking about big nations in the world, that alone will football big nations in the world. I'm sure they've all just gone, well, what are you going to do? You're going to kick us all out, are you? And we're all bound down to that, you know, FIFA toss pot in Fantino. You know, I mean, it's ridiculous. I mean, I'm watching the, I've just started the FIFA, you know, the FIFA documentary on Netflix. I've watched the first episode, and within the first episode, you see what an embarrassment it is, what FIFA is, what it's all about, what it stands for, and how it's just, you know, all the stuff with the D this and everything. It stands for money, doesn't it? It stands for money. It's all it stands for. Is there a more odious organization in the entire world than them? And I'm not sure there is. Considering they're, aren't they a non-profit? Well, supposed to be. I think the whole, the overarching thing of FIFA is non-profit. Everyone who works for it is very much about profit in their own bank, aren't they? I mean, I think they're less likable than ISIS. I mean, I mean, that's it. That's, yeah. We don't get to know ISIS, though, do we? That's the difference. We get to know FIFA. ISIS very much just get on with what they're doing. They just stay out the way. They don't hold well tournament to do this. But FIFA are very much in your face. FIFA are very much a gold thong on a beach when you shouldn't really be wearing it, but they're doing it and strutting their arm with everything hanging out there. And they don't care. I don't understand why they've brought so much attention on themselves. You said it straight away. Why are you even highlighting this? Just keep your head down, Shane. And the Qataris have done the same. They've put people on from street corners. They were just literally reporting on a well cut. But that infantino, not only did they try and sort of almost brush it under the carpet, he then came out and actually attacked all of the European nations for being hypocritical. It is. It's so bizarre. Football, though, I'm actually, I'll be honest, I'm quite enjoying it. Just to back your thing up, Dave, I'm not missing anything in the slightest. People have asked me a few times, are you missing God? Are you joking? Am I missing God on the mat? Are you messing? It's absolutely lovely. It's heaven. And it's, in a way, I've been talking to one of our mates about this this morning, and in a way, it is a really, really sad state of affairs. Isn't it? Is that weird or, yeah, delighted that I'm playing games with football at the moment? And normally you go, I wish we had a game this weekend, and I'm just like, ah, you know what, I hope there's 18-footers snowing, then bump up and dine down. There's no 40 for another four weeks after it. A couple of days ago, it was eight years since Wolfsburg, which is a trip I went on and flew over to Amsterdam, got the train from Amsterdam to Hanover. They were a good side, by the way. We had a great three days. We went to Amsterdam 2-0. And you know what? You're not asking for much, you're just asking for little days out like that, or a few days out like that. We're not talking about champions or e-fans, are we? Little days out. People say in the last couple, maybe 20 years have been to like, the likes of that, the likes of Norenberg, you know, even like, we went to Benfica, got B5-0, had a great day. No one's asking for anything massive, we're just asking for a few days out where we're laughing and looking forward to every game. And what this has highlighted is how just how, that's the thing, isn't it? You can sort of get on with having a bad team at some points, but when you've got happily no interest in football, happily no interest in everything, it's such a sad state of affairs. What this has made me realise is I do actually like the game of football. When everything's on, it's stressful and what it's done to me. It's probably says more about me, but what it's done to me is it's made me like, resentful of all the other football. So I look at other games and I can't, I just start getting angry, watching them with teams, winning, I'm just like nah, I can't watch, and I used to watch everything. I used to watch, honestly God, any game of football I would switch on and watch it and analyse it and go, ah look at them do. And just because where we are has put these last, and this is why, while everything else is going on with this world cup, and I think what you were kind of saying before Dave, or what you were saying Peth, was it's almost like it feels we're forced this world. They're kind of like shoe-wandering and we're not seeing the carnival stuff that we normally get from tournaments, and it's great. We're just seeing this game of football for now and a half, or sorry for three hours because of the injury time. But I'm enjoying the ingame stuff, I'm enjoying the game. It's probably the greatest shoehorn of all time. Oh, without a shoehorn. I can't think of better shoehorns to be honest. And it is highlighting to me that I don't actually because of where Everton are they've stressed me out, but Dave my question is is it possible for us to enjoy Everton again? And what I mean by that is without Everton winning like the league or whatever is it possible for us to go back to going, you know what, I enjoy watching or I'm not brilliant but I enjoy watching it or do you think the pressure is too much now or it's gone too far? Well, I mean the simple fact is that we're only one game away from being happy again. It's as simple as that. You know how it works, we all sit here and we moan and we kind of go this is awful this is awful, it's in the world you know suddenly they go and beat Wolves 3-0 and everything's great again when we're back on track and and that's 3 days 8-0 Yeah, but you know it's just we've all said this we've done this off the back of a win not very often like but we have and the world's a better place and so unfortunately we went into this long extended break very much in the doldrums and we were hoping to go in in better form and we very much haven't and every week we were kind of saying how many points we needed from the remaining games before the break and that amount of points kept going down and down and down every week you know we need this well actually well do you know what that'll do well actually we'll have to do that and whatever But yeah I mean you know this is my problem though with modern football management in particular not management but the culture of modern football whereby you know you can have a manager and I'm not necessarily saying that this is Frank Lappard this is a sort of hypothetical manager scenario but you can have a manager who is doing a decent job providing an upturn in the fortunes of a particular club and a particular playing squad you know and then they have a few bad results and then you know people are calling for their head you know and that's just not the case because things do flip so quickly and I think you have to look at it on balance you know and I still believe I still believe that getting rid of Frank Lappard is not the right thing to do some people will call for his head if there's another couple of bad results I personally don't think it's the right thing to do because we've been down that road as we said before it hasn't worked with the manager time and time again and the other fact of the matter is that we don't have a viable replacement well anywhere you know never mind in the wings anywhere it'll stop where do you stand on because obviously there's no football for everyone at the moment where do you stand on the players being in Dubai and on all of these because I've seen some people fuming to me and just like leave them because I've got no problem with that players have got to have time off as well they're going to be kicking their heels no point in being in training every single day I imagine they'll have the best people looking after them apparently and they'll have come back and they'll have a plan of how to get that fitness back up to those levels because they're already fit aren't they of course they are and they stay fit and they maintain it's not like they go away and come back looking like Mickey Quinn you know what I mean so I've no problem with that I'm just really enjoying this because no matter what Dave is saying there I do get your point Dave saying we're always one game away from happiness but unfortunately we're also three games away from second manager all the time and I just want to get away from that feeling of perpetual shyness precarious existence isn't it it can't go on like this it can't go on we're all on the verge of bubbling over all the time all of us are well how do we solve that I know how to solve it I know how to solve it you just won't let me say how you solve it you've got to get rid of all the badness out of football you've got to get rid of all you've got to start with that you've got to do what Newcastle did when their owners came in you've got to get rid of all the issues come back to when stuff like this happens you've got to start you've got to cut out the rot being saying this for ten years I'm not disagreeing you've got to start though do you think that then transcends on to the fuck at the moment like Dave was saying the focus is always on the manager well is it always the manager as the manager has always been wrong we've had a lot of managers haven't we this is my personal opinion you've got to cut out the rot you've got to cut out the issues at the club that have been hanging around like a bad smell for so long and every time something like this happens the fans go back to that thing get rid of that thing then we're not all wrong we're not all stupid and if you want to take the attention off the manager and give them time show you're having a clean sweep through the club and you want to freshen things up the football club won't like that but that's where you've got to start and then maybe we can start focusing on all the other parts because there's something I've said this for ages there's something very fundamentally wrong about that football club if that this keeps on happening all the time the managers can't always be wrong no they can't absolutely they can't we've plowed millions and millions apart and also sometimes you've got to save managers from themselves as well so Marco Silva for example someone at Everton football club should have grabbed all of them and said no mate you're not having lowest lowest power mode lowest power mode would have been better lowest lane would have been better you're having this experience fella here because you've just lost an experience fella we're taking that decision off you whether you like it or not this fella's coming in and actually this fella's a good talker as well so he'll talk to our fans and stuff like that we're saving you from yourself sometimes those people say I've got no issue saying it's rotten to the core because the people at the top can't do the job cut them out right and start taking the attention off Frank Lampard do whether you like him or you're not the fella's trying the fella's trying to do a job he's trying to tame Everton man and I believe Kevin Felwell is as well the problem is the people above them don't know their ass from their elbow get rid of them and suddenly we'll ice pit I believe things will look different see the other thing that I think Dave will come on to you now make me put my shouty voice on I have haven't I didn't see that one coming honest if I was those people I think this is where the silly if I was those people I'd be gone I don't really want to lose this guy so what I'm going to do is I'm going to take the focus off me by bringing in someone else who's well experienced someone who's experienced someone who's worked in the game before and start trying to show people that we're moving forward with these exes this person's being a disc club that or whatever ran this business that business or they could just leave if you're yeah what ideally for Everton is for me is another takeover and someone comes in and goes fresh fresh broom now I think this is what Farad Masheri got it wrong when he took over Everton he should have installed his own people I don't understand Dave how you take over a business and you don't put your own people into running to get the best out of it Masheri is not a football man is he doesn't change he's made that blatantly clear in the time that he's been there with his general understanding of just the culture of English football he's not a football guy I mean to your point Baz about people in the higher parts of the club in terms of the structure if they bring in other people are you not then what you're then creating though surely is just more unnecessary levels of bloody management and more stuff on the payroll because what you're trying to do there is for one of a better expression create a shit shield why haven't they done that I'm not saying that's right for our football club you've got a cosy haven't you but that said we all know what we're talking about here that fundamental argument does not explain really the dire form that we've seen of late from the playing squad I know that there are connections and I know that there are connections with many potentially outgoing players or should be outgoing players of late and therefore their seeming lack of commitment because they're not fighting their way into a squad they're kind of fighting just to stay there I don't know it's a baffling question though I think the thing is because it's been going off for so long that's the thing so long we're not talking about a situation which has existed for the last two, three even five years this goes back decades and the thing about it back to what I was saying originally those trips are broad and things like that it's like David Moyes and this is why I'm very fond of David Moyes and I've got no issue in saying that to me that took up my 20s and part of my 30s that time and most of the time we were content and we were happy yes we wanted more but it almost felt like it's got what it's gone back to and the difference was then there was four teams then now there's six if we'd had the financial power we might have been able to make it five and a six because we did finish fifth and sixth quite a lot in that time and sometimes seventh and we had some good teams and me personally I've said it loads of times I think the team between Oak Seven and O9 was as good a football I've seen since I was a kid and personally I think it was as good we just had better teams around us that was the problem and I think that's all I want is that feeling of every year we're going to challenge and every year we're going to have a go maybe football was a lot simpler then you didn't have all your directors of football and we're only talking 10 years ago of course football's changed a lot in that time and once again everything haven't changed very much like when the Premier League started they didn't change and it took them 10 years to get to where everyone else maybe was what to start and we've gone loads through managers as I said three games away from sacking the manager all the time you live in this perpetual world of fume and no social media doesn't help that but it just it feels like it feels like there has to be something that sweeps that all away and we start again and I do feel sorry for Frank Lampard and Kevin Felwer because they're trying to start something new and they're trying to team that round and are trying to get rid of all those players and the problem is in the last few years as we've tried to get rid of good play, bad play sorry we've brought in bad players as well because we've got no room to maneuver in the transfer market and that's got to start changing and I know they think that the stadium will be that sort of watershed moment for that to happen you know that we know that, you know the focus is on the stadium but that's still 18 months away and that feels like a very very long 18 months the chance that we go into that stadium not in the top flight which is just you know is an unfathomable thought but it's wholly possible we all thought after the after the end of last season I think we all thought now do you know what the new season, new start it's never going to happen again and we're going to make sure that we're never in that situation again you know it's never going to be looking over our shoulder we're never going to be three games away from sacking the manager we will have a bit ahead room and everything will be more comfortable but it just hasn't we're nearly halfway through the season and the same old stuff is happening the thing about us Dave as well the ticket prices have gone up this week they've gone up by 10% and they're going to go up another 15% next season let's be honest as we move into that stadium so you're talking probably the cheapest ticket it's going to be around £700 to go into a stadium and okay yeah if we're still in the Premier League we shouldn't even be saying that but we should be going into that stadium we should have looked at that stadium as like we're trying to be in Europe as we go into that stadium to justify those prices and when you hear people talking about the prices and people can break it down and go it's only X amount more a game but when you're talking about people in their houses and then you're saying to them by the way, know this team that you really hate watching we're going to force a 10% increase on you and then when you go into this new stadium which let's be honest, none of us are dropping our season tickets while there's a stadium luminous over our heads so that's a 25 increase of what we're paying this season to watch what is effectively because it is, it's dross I don't care the football we watch every week is dross doesn't matter how hard the time has changed it is crap we're talking about a team that doesn't have shots on target that's dross to me you want a team that gets you excited you have plays that get you excited and we're talking about from this season 25% going into a new stadium and they want us to go in there and fill it every week and of course we will because we're stupid but where does the point come where you go I've had enough of this in that stadium absolutely flying should be peaking as we go into that stadium but we're not, we're looking forward to bleeding beyond say more than anything else you know what I mean in monster trucks so I'm looking forward to okay so do you think that it's a long way off isn't it do you think the Lampard will walk us into that stadium not a chance on it I don't think Lampard sees next season good or bad I don't think he sees next season I personally and for so many different reasons which we've touched on now and a lot of it being to do with with Rott a systemic Rott within the club is I think that's really sad because I was really excited about the prospect of getting Frank Lampard I mean granted the alternative was I think everybody was delighted about the prospect of Lampard but do you know what I mean genuinely thought that this could be a good fit you know there was a real job to be done with our club and this was a manager who you know has got huge potential and is young and hungry and ambitious and it should have been a good thing but I'm with you I fear for it and who knows who would who on earth will walk us into that new stadium he may well do I mean I hope you do I don't think that when I say that it's a negative side to it but I also think I'm not convinced that for him he'll think moving his family and everything up here is the right move with the way of it I'm just not convinced by that I think maybe if I don't know I just think that if we've tamed and we buy good plays in January and we actually do start good playing good football and things fall into place but I just think if we get to the end of the season and we're still firefighting you know we've survived but we're still firefighting and the club's still a bit of a mess and he's got to make that decision of do I move my family to some Manchester and you know you miss disaster I'll give up doing what she has to do and you get to take all the kids I think he has to make that decision and I don't want a manager who's flitting between London and Liverpool and I mean that for himself as well I don't want a manager who goes on to an empty house or I want a manager who's settled down and it's not him I just think that's an indictment of where we are though if he did end up seeing this season out he'll be one of our longest-saving managers in the last few years which is pathetic he's been here for 18 months and will be going God he's had a good run of everything which is terrible isn't he it's embarrassing we had three managers in 14 years we had Moise and Martinis and we're talking now going and now God we won't talk about have you watched Belgium Dave? yeah I've seen bits of Belgium they're not great it is where Betelman is as Belgium isn't he? it is let's move on this has been a miserable podcast it has for all the joys that we've got in our life of not having ever I honestly thought this would be a 10-minute section of how you'd enjoy not having ever it's because I haven't spoken about it ever for like two weeks it's been very angry hasn't it but I think the thing about this podcast though and it is what it is and when we're talking about sex robots then we are and when we're not we're not well I've just seen a story here a man in China have you been desperately googling trying to fresh material? I've just been looking for something get them off I was talking I could see you on your phone all the way through I was looking for something I was looking for something bad stuff is going out when I started I was looking for something happy because I was thinking this is a bit depressing so this man in China has won 26 million on the lot apparently he has and when he went to pick up the cheque was it a big rubber cheque? he went like that because he didn't want his family to know that he's won 26 million so he's gone to rest like an illuminous poo is it a poo? he almost he's gone in fancy dress he's gone in fancy dress to pick up the money with his mate I'm sure if you recognize his mate if we were prepped for this before if you hadn't just found this on your phone we could have flashed the image up on the screen we'll get Ned to do that in post they were in post I'm going to send it to Dave in real time so it's gone to your Dave now if that is mate I'm not the guy who's just handing over the cheque maybe I've always wondered about those giant cheques though why would you cash them? because nowadays those banks there's a little slot you're not getting that through there they don't want to take the banks they don't even take cheques anymore don't even have a normal the only person I know still gives cheques as my mum honestly she's scared of internet banking but you can scan them now it's gone through the week and it scanned it and then it came back saying it bounced because she hadn't given permission for it I thought you were going to say because the cheque books from 1987 have you seen the image Dave? yeah it's strange it's strange but I admire the fact that what he's had to do there is get these thoughts I've got to go and pick this cheque up why didn't you just tick the no publicity box? maybe they don't have a no publicity box I mean it would be difficult to recognise him in real life from that outfit so in terms of maintaining his anonymity he's done well there he's done a good job there I was going to say though his wife just opens the cupboard and she goes I've seen this somewhere before and he's just there pulls up in the drive the other fella looks gutted absolutely gutted the other fella probably has the same theory as me on this is that I think there should be a cap on all 100% wins the idea while we're sort of putting the world to rest we're feeling angry let's get this one out of the way as well I know when they have all these things where they have the euro millions and stuff like that and they say the euro million total tonight could be 142 million that's ridiculous I don't know what the cap should be but it should be something whereby dozens of winners they're all getting a million or even 5 million or even 10 million but cap it one person scooping 100 something million let me just go one bigger because recently there was one in the state that was over a billion dollars there was over a billion dollars I think it was a couple of months ago and I'm just looking at the highest ever won was 1.5 billion Powerball 2016 which 3 winners won surely surely the minute it goes over a billion it should be like we're going to do 10 winners they should do that really with the euro million that's ridiculous if you win a billion dollars you've effectively almost got a chance to change the world like if you give that there's certain people out there at the moment who are splashing their wealth around to destroy things but if you have you've literally give the power to someone to change the world that's not right like Asia wouldn't it be better though if you've given multiple people spreading that wealth you do it but you should do it if you were one of those winners even like a proportion of those winners you would have the chance of actually sorting out you know our front line yeah very much potentially not like you know not in the trenches yeah I mean if you won it's not that miserable you've got 500 million you can put the heating on for the winter which would be a huge thing I mean where are you up to with the heating Dave because it is cold day today actually last couple of days it's our bin day today okay it's recycling today is it full no maybe a third it's nothing like the lockdown recycling bin where literally you couldn't get the lid down full of bottles and cans and stuff like that and everybody in the street was like that it's very respectable now these days but when I went out last night to put the bins out it was noticeably colder now I have got the heating on twice for an hour in the morning and an hour at the end of the day my house is cold it's really cold and I sit there I sit there in two or three jumpers in the evening watching telly get a water bottle yeah that's what I've heard and this is something I've never said before you know I'm even thinking about looking for an electric blanket or something I don't know are they dangerous they can be these are things I've childhood this is terrible but Dave honestly guys get a fleece blanket for your couch when you sit in there watching telly but a hot water bottle short you mate honestly take the edge off the house with the heating but as pet saying who in their right mind thought that in the year 2022 you know and we've known each other for a few years and we've had all sorts of you know conversations about all sorts of things not just Evan we thought that we'd be sitting here giving each other advice on how to actually make it through the winter it's incredible isn't it and you know where all while the country feels where all alright aren't people think about depression but think about like an older person just on their own and then should we not take this opportunity to attack the likes of BP and then whatever the massive profits while the country thinks it's a good idea to leave a dickhead in the jungle who health calls that far problems to be honest right that me and Mrs was talking about this all last week because every night when the boat was on he was still after about two boats so I was like I said you're being a silly fan but it was a PR company for the Tories basically made sure they were constantly fighting to keep them competitive and I'll be honest you're the night when we were watching the final me and Mrs gave the all fishpump the minute he mentioned his name that he was gone first and it was like he was like get in there if you put on like the news or like you went on a sky news app or anything it was like Matt Hancock goes out third and then oh and Jules got one like that's the problem though he's got what he wants and I stopped watching him the minute he went and I couldn't no it wasn't actually what the minute he went in it was the minute people started to be nice to him and I was like user of jokes he had a person out of fucked off the minute he went in there had it gone straight to the camera and gone and gone Matt most people still decor them out when they come out what he really should have done if he he should have all gone into the thing had it worked I heard my tindle kept on apparently he's come out third this footage of him he kept on every time he moved he kept on because what he started doing there the end was putting all the stuff on show so Mike Tindle had just gone third and to be fair this phone number apparently he was laying it out he was laying it out so he could see it on the camera and Mike Tindle apparently kept on turning it around so he couldn't see it and he did bring it out he went and said to be fair to Mike Tindle I just couldn't watch it one bit was funny was when he had that like Lida and all that he knew that something was going on when he got voted camp leader but anyway Mike Tindle became camp leader and when people were going because they had to give jobs so we ended up giving Matt and got about five jobs there was something and the fact that you said that they could have potentially, allegedly, maybe possibly been some kind of influence all allegedly possibly some people may perhaps think certainly not the opinion of this podcast anybody individually or collectively this was just in the news the fact that Mike Tindle could have been less popular in there than Matt Hancock I mean it's just not it's just not an option but also there's a couple of people who might have been but also there's also the thing that maybe loads of people stopped watching it because of him and therefore a section of the population were watching it and actually do you like those kind of people so they voted and all just when Hancock everyone in there is a certain type of person we don't like those people you know very much like when people voted for Tony Adams you know you got the arsenal vote didn't you he got his particular section of people's votes and maybe that's what kept them in I think it's probably all mixed together because it was it wasn't there a tiktok thing where you vote via tiktok I don't know something like that and that stuff can be easily I downloaded the app to make sure that he'll scot off my votes like so well there's an event connection with the winner and she won it and to be fair she was a worthy winner I think so I think she came over well from start to finish Andy Bush is also in he's just popped up in the in the group and he's just seen the picture of the Illuminous Pooh and he doesn't know what's going on I'll be honest he said he's deeply concerned so you know what this this is a memo to him and we could do this full circle isn't it? this is like really wrapping it up really nicely just bang on time is that this would be an opportunity for him to take a long hard look at himself and actually the fact that he doesn't understand what we're talking about would perhaps imply that maybe he should attend more often yeah I would like to think well I think if we could track that in that suit we should make him wear it for a podcast that would be I don't know how he'd get his headphones on but that's a challenge for him that is up to him he's got to go and say it if that's a way for a podcast as a punishment I was going to potentially combo it with I don't know whether combo it is even an expression but combo it with the air fryer but that could be a fire hazard couldn't it I think that looks very flammable that suit considering he literally ripped off the idea and put it to his radio show as well it does toasty Tuesdays in the air fryer it does a toasty Tuesday so he's got this new segment that he came up with called a toasty Tuesday where him and whoever this mate is on the show was Richie do they cook a toasty on a Tuesday oh well what where did that idea come from Mr Bush right listen next week right and this this this will serve by way of a trail for the next episode 14 possibly I think that next week we have to start this podcast with what will effectively be a kangaroo court and we need to sit him down and we need to just attack him from all angles all the different things that we're not happy with in terms of his behaviour and his general attitude towards this podcast I think we need to get it all out and open this is going to be an attack bush podcast special please just one issue to that I'm not here next week yeah but but first you can attack the bush you can attack where are you next week New York why can't you do it from New York they've got internet in New York Dave it would be just before 8am in New York there is no chance and listen here's what I'm proposing is that I don't mind delaying the start of this podcast to later on in the afternoon minus five hours we could do it at midday New York time we could do it at five o'clock in British winter time if you want to delay for five hours be my guest I'm not going to be fucking there though well what you could do though okay so what you could do because me and Dave do want to do this kangaroo court with the bush just do it no no no no I think you need to be there Dave and Matin and Matin have pet recorded a piece of video right where it's unbroken where he just give bush down the banks for not being there and we just play that into it I don't can't do that though if I'm not there though can I but I wouldn't be there so I would be a hypocrite you're not the only one you've missed I think what we need to do here is effectively install like a suspended sentence okay so two weeks today a bush filter a bush filter so he will he can perhaps know that he's in trouble no it's coming pending, pending sentencing and then we'll completely hit him with both barrels he's got to go to a safe house for a week he'll know it's coming and then he won't see you no well he will see he will tell him that on whatever date it is a fortnight from today it's like a bit of an intervention isn't it it is I think I'd like to think rather than the kangaroo court Dave after this I think an intervention comes first where we tell him how disappointed we are do you think we should be really off with him next week do you think we should be like noticeably like have the ass with him just like he knows that something you know a bit like when you like upset your misses or something and you just get there and you can just feel it yeah should we do that so he gets really upset though and then doesn't come on the next one because we need we don't want him go hiding do we okay well maybe we'll be really with him for the first yeah early on Brian it up at the end yeah and maybe talk about a potential Christmas drink or something when Pett is back and make lol him into a false sense yeah yeah do you know what in two weeks time that'd be about the right sort of time that we can say it's the 1878 FM Christmas drinks right and he will think it's a happy occasion and we will we will lure him in under false pretenses and then hammer him I mean that to me sounds tremendous it does it'd be great if we could get you in and also before Christmas and because it will be timed just before Everton come back that fume would be real yeah that fume would be real the aggression would be there wouldn't it because we know it's coming yeah okay that's what we'll do so next week we'll we'll next week we'll be a little bit just a little bit of some of these jokes we won't laugh at we'll just have a little edge we'll go on him a little bit with a bit of needle and we'll pick it up at the end and we'll pretend to be interested in his life and stuff and sort of ask him how his week's been and who did you interview and blah blah blah and all do all that just so that he thinks we're okay with it but he'll have no idea what's coming on the week after he will get fully boned on off the week after fully right let's leave it that's a plan that's a plan so don't tell him don't tell him anybody is watching if anyone's listening don't tell him don't go messaging on twitter this person looks like you and the bush and also they are enacting from 1874 to get the bush on trial there you go don't do that stay away from all that we are done thank you very much for listening it's been a little bit more depressing than I thought it was going to be but there you go real talk today on this podcast but as always a huge thank you to big Dave like you said the Tarkovsky's here every week bush is doing whatever he's doing so just me and you Dave we are very much the conical the James Tarkovsky of this podcast reliable that's what makes us special Barry we like the Tony a bit in the Lee announcement I don't know I think that's hard listen you're ron'd on I'd happily be ron'd on no issues with ron'd on propaganda forward fake number 9 nonsense I know that let's get out of here on the front line let's leave it there see you all next week bye bye