 So good afternoon. Many thanks for joining this open air webinar on Diamond Open Access. The focus was in fact in presenting the AP Science tool, the Overlay Journal Platform AP Sciences, and we decided also to integrate and highlight the action plan that was recently presented by Science Europe and other partners about the Diamond Open Access in this webinar. So we will have one hour and a half session, a really rich session on Diamond Open Access and the action plan and the Overlay Journal Platform AP Sciences. So this, as you already saw, this webinar is being recorded and the recordings will be made available. Also the presentation at the end we are going also to ask you to fill an evaluation form about this webinar. So please ensure that your microphones are off. We will also make sure of that. So just to simplify the process and the presentations but of course we want your participation. You can share your thoughts in the chat or sometimes it's also rich to have a kind of parallel conversations in the chat is always interesting and we will share for sure several useful links in the chat. And then we are going also to give the floor to you at the end of at least we have three moments specifically to ensure your participation. Okay, this webinar is under the umbrella of open air webinars so several webinars that we are organizing. Also under this specific open air project open air nexus that is working on the onboarding of the open air services and tools in the European open science cloud and also developing and improving the portfolio of open air services. You see here this this diagram with different open air services targeting different users different stakeholders addressing different needs of the research community from from publish monitor to discover targeting repository managers targeting researchers research support staff and under this portfolio of services under publish we have epic science. This this this platform and this webinar is dedicated to epic science so the agenda. We will have for speakers, the first three speakers are specifically on epic sciences. Raphael tournois is the product manager we are going also to have a presentation from selling Bartona both from CNRS. And then, Matthias will present a use case from this service later, we have back but let's first start with this first part of the of the session, dedicated to epic sciences, where we'll have after the presentation of Raphael and Celine. You, you can ask questions, and then we have a specific use case feedback and experience from the jet come over late journal to from Matthias, and then you will have also the possibility to ask questions so let's first start. First start with this block of presentations related with epic sciences Raphael. The floor is is yours you can you can also present yourself better to the audience, and then proceed with your presentation so really thank you thanks for your availability to manage this this webinar. And so, feel free to start to present yourself and to start sharing your screen. Okay, can you hear me. Let's move. Let's move from Portugal to France now. It's okay. Yes. Yes. Okay, so I will show my screen. And do you see my screen. Everything is perfect. The sound and the right. Thank you. Good morning. Good afternoon everyone. Thank you for joining and we'd like to thank the panel for organizing and inviting us to speak about the sciences, and other things. So, let's start. So I work at CCSD. CCSD is a joint unit. I'm a senior year and in right. It's my mission is to provide tools and services in respect to open access for my education and research. We are operating through platforms. The first one is Al. It's an open repository is the first platform created by the CCSD. And there is also epic sciences which we are talking about today. And if a platform is science course, it's a platform for organizing conference conferences and scientific events. So, let me just interrupt for a small minor just minimize your window with the image with your image. Yes, it's strange. Okay, perfect, perfect. You can you can proceed. Yes. So, what is it the sciences. It's a platform to publish open access scientific journals. We are open to any disciplines. For the moment, most of the journals are from mathematics, computer science and mathematics, mathematics, sorry, and also social sciences and humanities. We are open to new journals or flipping journals for instance we have some journals that are coming from commercial publishers. This is a platform where scientific communities can create and operate high quality open access journals. And we only provide them on the pen access journals means that it is free to both authors and readers. And it's a mix of cold open access because journals are in open access and green open access because we do require that self archiving happens in an open access repository. Now, the special thing about this platform for publishing them on access journals. It's, it's, it's an overall journal model because we're operating on top of open access repositories. At the moment we have, we do provide archive and the nodal, but we will provide our propane servers in the future. We do offer you a solution to peer review footprints, because we can provide single blind review to go blind, peer review, and also open peer review, it depends on the choices of the journals. And what is specific is that all versions are already available online, because in the world publication process, every version has to be submitted in an open repository. So it means that, for instance, is the journal disappears or moves every place can still access the content in the open repository. Actually, the platform could be moved to another hosting server, for instance, or organization and journal could still work as such, because the content is always submitted online in an open access. Updates are still possible on journal and on the archive. Anyone, any authors can submit a new version even after the publication of the last version. And the idea of a very general was proposed to the CCSD in 2003 by Professor Jean-Pierre de Maillie, a French mathematician. So the thing about AP Sciences is that AP means above, on top of, that's what the extract on the right from Wikipedia. So what is the workflow of our platform? The first thing is that it has to start with a preprint that should be submitted onto an open archive compatible with the sciences. So at the moment it's our archive and Zinodo. When the preprint has been submitted, you get usually an OPID, so either a DOI or a handle, for instance, or archive also provides you right now. Then this DOI can be submitted to the journal. You just have to copy and paste the identifier and we will get the metadata from the open archive. Then the DOI board will select reviewers, for instance, and they can have multiple rounds of peer review and ask the authors to submit other versions on the preprint server. If the article is refused, it is not notified to the preprint server. But if the article is accepted, you can have a step five of copy-editing, and if the article is accepted, it is copied. And then at the end of the process, the article is published. So the latest published version is also submitted on the open repository. So from the beginning to the end, sorry, you have revisions available in the open repository, and the latest version has the publication references. So it means that you know that it has been published in the journal, and you also, for instance, the DOI, assigned by epic sciences, and also volumes, etc. So what is the organization of epic sciences? The platform is organized with a steering committee that is responsible for reviewing the journal platform orientations. There are three epic committees that are responsible mainly for selecting journals in their disciplines. So they're evaluating the journal's applications that are proposed to the platform. And they can also help on the scientific level of the journal organization. We also have the editorial committees that are responsible for organizing the evaluation and scientific discussion of the journals. So we do organize the peer reviewing process, select the reviewers, invite them, and usually also do the copy-editing. At the end, if everything is accepted and well done, you can have the publication process that is done by also the editor-in-chief. So what is interesting here about epic sciences is that it's a nice way to reduce costs because the platform does not require subscription, of course, no IPCs, and we do provide free hosting and support. We do not have to publish at a reasonable cost because we do share an infrastructure with, for instance, AL and other platforms of the CCSD. Also, hosting and preservation are done by repositories. So this is part of a usual mission to preserve the content in open access. And as we are requiring open access to missions, this is done by the propane servers. It's also a nice way to reinvest public money in the form of human resources in the public service because the work of the scientists is not done really for free, but it could be reinvested in the public common good, such as open access journals. It's a nice way to add value to open archives because we do the step that is missing to propane servers, that is, evaluation and certification of profits. It's also a good way to reduce time to access publications because you don't have to wait, for instance, 20 months to publish your paper. Of course, immediately available on the propane server, and every revised version will also be available and can be cited also. And also, of course, everything stays online, even if the article is refused, your paper is still online and can be submitted to another journal that will be more suitable, for instance. So what is also interesting is that it helps increasing traceability, because we can track the evolution of documentations, even after publication. This means that we can consider the publication process as a conversion flow because when the article is published, that is the way of working with propane server that you can actually submit subsequent version, even after the publication. And this is, of course, open by design, so we do, of course, a complete with open access mandates, because we have to start in print server and open access, and we have to end also in open access. So, the journals do require creative comment licenses, so all the authors do retain their rights. It means that they get a non-explicit distribution rights. The journals do have an exclusive distribution rights, sorry. Most of the time, the creative comment license chosen is a CC by that's what we recommend. We want to maintain access to content because we do the propane server to maintain control for the publications, and we do ask the evaluations also on the platform. So like I said earlier, if you delete the journal, actually the content will still be available and online in the open repository. The repository is more stable in the long term, so this is a great way to ensure access to content. Also, we offer sometimes like, how would you offer services to preserve the long term access to document? It means that the partnership with CNS and Trends that is able to guarantee that the document is still available in the long term. So, it's also a good way to ensure scientific independence because we do allow scientific committees to under data and what we do create. So, it's kind of, you can say that it's academic-owned platform, and we are attentive to the needs of the researchers and try to make it a platform that really shoot their needs. So we can have a scientific policy that is independent of any commercial logic because we are not operating on a commercial level. It's also a good way to meet fair principles because we do rely on the propane server and their features that already meet some of the principles and we do have some other services to add that. And it's also a nice way to increase the degree of diversity because it's dynamic access, but we as a relay, this is not so usual in the traditional landscape. So AP Sciences is also part of the Open Air Nexus project. We are now in the AOS marketplace and we have received some really good help from over Open Air services. So we have realized the integration of Zinodo, for instance, as a new repository server. We can also leverage the APIs from Score Explorer and Open Air Research Clash. So we will be able with that to enrich with our data offered on the AP Sciences journals and articles. We also improve the citations with a partnership with using the open APIs from web citations. And then there are other services like Open Air Research Statistics. So let me show you how to use quickly the platform. It's journal has its own domain name. So for instance, let's try with LMCS, Logical Methods in Computer Science. So this is on the right page of the home page of LMCS. So when you want to submit a propane to a server to a journal, to LMCS for instance, so you have to submit it for instance to archive. So let's try with this one. This one has received an archive identifier. So this article is online as version one on archive in 2018. Then you can copy and paste the archive ID on our journal web form. You just have to select the archive server, paste the archive ID and select the version. So yeah, it's version one that is submitted to LMCS. Then we will take the metadata from archive using their APIs and insert the contents into the LMCS journal. So you can see we have the same authors of course and titles and abstracts and keywords. Again, the journal will produce its period process so we can design for instance a viewing with as many as they want. And then they will select the peer reviewers. They will ask some revisions to the authors that will upload it again on the open archive repository. If you look on the on the left of this slide, you can see that this document has many submitted versions on the LMCS journal. On the right, you can see that there are also more versions available on archive. And you can see that the article has been available since 2018 to 2020. Actually version 10 was published, but version one was the first submitted version, version two was the first submitted version to LMCS. It means that during all these years, the article has been available online, could be cited and could be of course, revised and reused and improved. That's what happened actually on LMCS. The article has been improved thanks to the feedback of the reviewers. So this is why you have so many versions and editing. At the end of the process, after the copy editing, you can see on the right, you have the version that is that has been completed by LMCS. This is the version that has been published so it's version 10. And if you click on the left part of the slide, you have a download this file button. If you click on download this file, what happens is that you are actually downloading the content from archive. We do not post the PDF file, it's posted on archive. If you click on the button on the right, you can consult the article white page on archive and see the original print also. And consult the other versions that were available before the published version. You can see also on the bottom right of the page that this article has been assigned the DUI, which is the same of course on the left. This is the DUI assigned by EpiScience. When we assign the DUI, we try to link the DUI to the over-prepared versions. So all the PIDs are joined together with the DUI and the archive handles. So in the end of the process, you have on the right the published version and on the left the version that is also available on archive, of course. This is the same document but with two presentation different. And we will also update automatically the journal references on archive using the IP provided by archive. That's why you have the journal reference LMCS volume 16 issue two published in 2020. And you can see also the DUI that has been replicated from EpiSciences to archive. So there are also many services that are provided by archive by EpiSciences, sorry. And my colleague Selim Bartola will now present them, please. Thank you Raphael and thank you all of you for being there. It's a real pleasure to present our work to you today. My name is Selim Bartola and I also work for EpiSciences with Raphael as a publishing officer. In the first part of the presentation, Raphael presented with EpiSciences. So in the first part of the presentation, Raphael presented what EpiSciences is and how to use it. In this part of the presentation, I'm going to give you an overview of the services of the platform and what we are doing to help users to manage their journals. In my presentation, I would like to cover four major points. First of all, I will begin to explaining the creation of a personalized site for each journal and what we are doing to create a journal which reflects your editorial line. Secondly, I will talk about the technical support we offer for the editorial staff, the boards and all users of the platform, including authors, reviewers and editors. Thirdly, I will detail what we do in order to help with the publication and distribution. Finally, I'll present the reference databases of each publication, each discipline and what we are doing to allow your journals to be indexed in these databases. Then Raphael and I will answer questions if you have some. Allow me to start with the creation of a personalized website. For the moment, we have 22 overlay journals in the platform and the help up conference proceedings. There are eight journals in Informatics and Applied Mathematics, seven in Mathematics, five in Social Sciences and Humanities, one in Environment and one in Mechanics. The journal of theoretical, computational and applied mechanics, which will be presented later by Mathias Logan. Journals which want to join the platform have to candidate. Once journals are accepted, we create and host a personal website for each journal. Raphael showed in the first part a journal as its own URL, which is journalsname.epicience.org. We configure the space according to the editorial policy of the journal, vertical or horizontal menu indexes, by name, volumes, let us articles, year of publication, pages for the guidelines, presentation of editorial bonds and committees, editorial policies and so on. We provide the DOI by Crossref for each published document. We also create an adapted graphic charter, which was with the editors, the font and colors, and we help them to create the style sheets if they need it. We can also create a header, here are some headers of different journals on the platform, for example. Now let's have a look on our technical support. Epicience offers daily support in the use of the software, such as a building wall documentation, both in French and English, evolving as the platform evolves. It also offers technical support by email and a bug reporting service via GitHub. Each user, authors, for example, reviewers or editors, can write to us in order to have some help while they are using the platform. A specific technical support is provided by Inria and the Institute Fourier for the journals supported by these institutions. So that's where the journals in informatics and in mathematics. We also plan to train by video on requests of the editorial teams on a specific point or on the general functioning of the platform. Let's now examine what we can do to help with the publication and distribution. We provide some help with the publication and distribution of the journal. For example, we can ask an ISSN for your journal if you don't have one. We can advise you in the choice of creative common licenses. We can provide assistance in drawing up a copyright assignment contract. We can give editorial advice and information on open access publishing requirements. We can help the editorial boards to apply for institutional support. And we also link editorial staff with service providers for copy editing. At last, but not least, we take care of the procedures for indexing overhead journals in the reference databases of each discipline and interdisciplinary databases. In particular, the digital bibliography and library project in informatics, the directory of open access journals for all journals, the European reference index for the humanities, EZB, Free Journal Network, Google Scholar, Isidore, which is a French database for humanities and social sciences, MadSciNet, Mirabelle, which is a French database for academic journals in all disciplines, WorldCuts, ZB Maths, and, of course, OpenAir. We are working with colleagues from Ineria and Institut Fourier to reference the overhead journals in these different databases. Thank you very much for your attention. If you have some questions, please feel free to ask us. Yeah, thank you very much. So this is the time for you to ask questions so we can do the chat. Also, our colleague Andrea Vieira also already shared some useful links about the service during the presentation so you can check it. So feel free to put your questions here in the chat or so really using your microphone. Welcome. So feel free. Yadrenke have already made a question here. Thank you Yadrenke. What happens if the author has meanwhile submitted a preprint as a manuscript to another journal. Feel free to to reply. Okay, so this is unusual because this is not great. This is not great for anyway and actually, so it could happen for of course, but this is not the thing to do anyway. Even for traditional journals, you have to do that. We do not prevent that, and we could not really do that. I think it's too difficult. Okay, so you have a colleague from LG from dance. Do you also advise on archiving of research that underlying the articles. Yes, this is great, of course. Actually what is interesting is that we can. We can find the links between, for instance, the published article of the preprint and the data set that are linked to that. We can find the links in Zinodo on all we can do that. And this is most of the time that's something that the journals are responsible for. For instance, I think Mattias could speak a bit about that for JTACAM because this is something great that they do. They do. They do propose to authors to to post or so that they are data sets and softwares. This is great. Yes. Thank you very much. So of course you can we can also put questions to Salina and Raphael after Mattias presentation so but feel free if you. I also saw, I'm not sure Raphael because you also put your microphone on. I'm not sure if you wanted to make a question so I'm talking to Raphael. Ed Edero. I'm not sure if you wanted to speak, but I saw your microphone on. If you don't have any other question right now. I love I love the way that you manage that Salina and Raphael in the same room. Manage your presentation sharing the technology, the technological environment you manage was great. Thank you very much. I saw your exchange. I's connection to it to change the slide, which was great. Okay, maybe maybe we can move to Mattias presentation and then if people please put your questions in the chat and then Salina and Raphael can also address them after after Mattias presentation. Okay, thank you Raphael and Salina. Let's, let's, let's hear Mattias. So, which is a specific use case that Raphael already mentioned, and then we can you can put questions to Mattias and also Raphael and Salina. So, Mattias, the floor is yours you can present yourself and and do the presentation. Thank you for for being available. Thank you for. So yes, good, good afternoon and good morning. So I'm Mattias, I'm an associate professor in the department of mechanical engineering at McGill. And I'm a big fan of open science. So we'll try to briefly describe what we've done for JT time. And first, I wanted to share a few links that maybe you want to have a look at the website. Before we start or turn the presentation so this is the website of the of the journal. As mentioned earlier it's the name of the journal.tepiscience.org. And we also recently opened a Twitter account. If you want to follow us on good practices, you can get so let me show my screen. What I have a few slides about five slides and then maybe I'm going to try to describe to two to journal papers that are of interest to us for good practices I think. So this is the presentation so maybe I should reduce this. Oops. Yeah, so JT come is a journal of theoretical computational and applied mechanics. So quickly, we first started to think about this idea of creating an overall journal in. Yeah, I'm saying September 2015. Probably September 2016, but it does not make a big difference. So we started to chat with colleagues and we have to create an overall journal mechanics. It's very important there's nothing like this in mechanics for now. And then we started to have a long, long, long discussion with the community. So we wanted to attract the support of learned societies, and we got it from make a mat only from from friends so make a mat for mechanical and materials. And so we wanted to have support to make sure that it would be a viable journal. And then I think it was officially launched in April 2020. It was the first submission right after this date. So today we have 12 papers published so you can you can go on the website and have a look at on the article tab. And we have 16 in review. And yes, this is the first of it over the journal so over there comes with diamond open access I believe it's not identical but this is the first over the journal in mechanics. And we decided to opt for a very broad scope so as opposed to a very, very limited expertise we decided to go to open it to anyone interesting interested in mechanical engineering. So, yeah, the question was, why did we decide to use the epic sciences platform. Well essentially it's an historical answer to this reason to this it's the fact that the four or the five co founders of the journal were already users of the of the HAL platform has mentioned by Raphael. And so epic sciences was a natural choice for us. We really spent time on this we just went for a bit science and we're very happy with his choice. And so for the overall journal so I was already explained by Raphael so I'm just saying a few words. It's already in place in mathematics, we've got plenty of original in mathematics, very few in engineering, and if not any in mechanical engineering. So I think it adds value compared to existing traditional journals. And we have very good and quick technical support by Raphael mainly. So we can have a request and have an answer the day after. So all this is very nice. We're very happy with all these technical aspects of the platform. Let's go back to the JT camp journal. So we have a fairly strict format, which is based on latex so latex is used for by by by mathematics and mainly, if you're not aware of what it is it's a competitor to world like for open office like solutions. So we have also a pretty strict graphical charter so we're trying to to make sure that others create nice figures readable figures, vector graphics, and so on. We also try to comply with fair guidelines, and we try to also comply with reproducibility policies. So we're going to come back to this later with a few examples but essentially we try to to to make open data sets and open software solutions. So we use Zeno for this or software heritage which is for for software solutions I will come back to this later. So we also have an open peer review policy. This is not a common practice in in my community but it was a common practice in geomechanics, which is also open to to, we open this type of topics to the JT camp journal. And so reviews are available on HIL and reviewers can remain anonymous. So the technical board, I'm spending a bit of time on this so the technical board is essentially the colleagues who are the co founders of the journal so this is Vincent Hacarie from Inria, Francois Giebier from University of Montpellier, myself from my university I'm going in the alphabetical order. I'm from Montaigne from from France as well researcher in at CNRS and Vladislav Yastreboff from Meane Paris Tech in Paris. And essentially we we do all the underground type of work for for managing the journal. We have a monthly meeting to discuss ongoing matters. And we are in charge of the editing of the final versions of the of the of the papers. So this is what takes most of our time to deal with the journal. On the editorial board we have nine members with an attempt to have some balance in terms of gender and research expertise. There's no chief editor so it's supposed to be a collegial organization so editors speak together and trying to see if they can handle a paper or if they cannot try to send it to someone else who would be more responsible for the expertise in the field. And if someone resigns and a new members will be nominated by the whole board. And so the whole board is the technical board, the editorial board and the scientific board, which has about 20, 20 members at the moment. Difficulties. Yes, so I have a slide on difficulties. So to manage an open access diamond open access over a journal. So I would say at the moment, there is a little awareness from from the research community. Essentially, there are very few people aware of diamond open access so people know gold access they know green access, but they don't really know diamond open access. They don't really know over a journal either. So that's, yeah, that's a weakness for now. They had fairly weak support from learn societies so they're already tied to existing publishers that already, they don't really want to change their, their practices. And so that's the way it is that it's a bit sad, but it's not easy to change. It's already indexing and recognition so it's a new journal. Most young researcher will will won't want to publish in a journal of this type because it's not yet recognized by by by the system, if I can, can call it this way. So I have this last but it, which I call competitors it's not a, it's not competitors but it's same type of approach so we have side posts in the Netherlands, and peer community in which is also called PCI in France. And these two, these two approaches to go with diamond open access. There needs to be more, more, more, more, more at their ease to, to, to raise funds to make their journal work. And this is an issue we have but JT come is that we don't have money at the moment. So it's all done by the technical board on our free time so to speak. We would like to be able to attract money but there's no infrastructure at the moment to do so. And also, we don't have a clear publisher so at the moment it's in RIA, I will, I will try to clarify the suspect right after this, but it's not a publisher. We're trying to change so we would like to be science to become a publisher, and maybe also an infrastructure able to deal with money, but it's an open question at the moment. And for future avenues, well, of course we would like to grow. So at the moment we have about 30 articles in the pipeline. We're doing like one per month, you know, that's not, not so many. And also, we have this issue of what I call the long term management of the, of the journal. It's not clear what would happen if the current technical board resigns. Okay, so if no one wants to take care of the journal, then it dies probably, and at the end of the experience. We would like to better manage the open science guidelines or all these fair guidelines. It's pretty, it's pretty hard for us to follow all the novelties. And, and it's even more problematic for others. And this is not, this is not easy to implement. Long term avenues. We would like to maybe implement automatic translation to comply with citizen science so you know like science not published in English only but maybe in Spanish in all languages worldwide. And maybe move to other publishing formats, you know, then PDF, PDF is a preferred format for now but it has, it has limitations and, and maybe opening like to keep up or to HTML would be would be a good, good strategy. So if I have time, I would like to have a look at two papers published in, in a JT camps or where am I not here. Yes, probably. So I'm, I'm sharing my web page of the journal. So again, hosted by API science that you see on the left. And if you go to the article tab here you have a look at the published papers. So I just want to spend a bit of time on two of them. So the first one is this one here, an FFT solver used for digital DMA, whatever it's not that this is not the goal here to spend time on the paper but to spend time on the link data here. So here we have two, two links. The first one goes to an open review. So if I, if I go to, to this Zenodo web page will go to the review so the open review of the, of the, of the, of the article sorry. So if you click on the link you get you get access to the open review. And the second link is related to open science. So here we go to software heritage that was mentioned before in my presentation. So essentially how software heritage is an archive for software solutions. So here, this is one, one software solution that was used in a paper, and it's all nicely archived. And it's supposed to comply with reproducibility guidelines. Readers that are interested in this paper could pull or like download the files that were used to produce the results of the paper. And this is forever. Okay, this will never vanish in nowhere. And so this should comply with open science in the long term. So the first one that I wanted to have a look at is this one, sorry. Yeah, so this is another paper. This one was hosted by archive. Okay, so the first one was on HL this one is on the archive. So if you click on this link you go to the archive website. And if I click on the PDF here download this file. And if I click my PDF here will have to switch again. Okay, sorry, I will switch again to the PDF here. Yes, so you should see, do you see the paper now. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, so you see the PDF and you see here on the left column you see the identifiers DIY of the PD of the of the paper, archiving version six of the paper. And here you see the associate editor, the reviewers so some are anonymous some are not. And you see the open review here which is hosted by HL. And you see here, supplementary material data here, which is on Zenodo, and here's a Zenodo website is on the figures of the paper so the figures of the paper here. Most of them can be reproduced so all these figures here the data sets, the road assets. So text format essentially is shared on Zenodo so that interested review readers can re recreate these figures. So it's also some sort of open data and open science guidelines here, but we don't share here the software, the whole software solution, which generated the figures. So it depends on the authors on if they want to share what they want to share is open to share the whole, the whole framework of their paper or not. And that's what closes my presentation, I think. Oh yeah last last topic that I wanted to mention is that in the, in the bibliography here so the reference list. We also try to identify all the open access links so we identified the DOIs, but also open access. So sometimes it goes to the journal webpage, if this is for instance gold access, or it goes to HL here. So if there is an HL version we try to link to the HIL version here, and also to archive might have an example somewhere here. Well, anyway, no, I don't have one here. But we tried here I have one here so archive. We try to to link to all the open access versions of the cited papers. What closes my presentation. Great examples, Matthias. Yes. And so, yeah, so we're very happy with the science as a technical platform, very easy to work with the only two limitations that we were facing now with the fundraising issue. And as the publisher side of the journal which is for now in RIA, and it's not really satisfactory. Thank you. Thank you very much Matthias and congratulations because it's really very good stuff that you are doing congratulations so it's very good steps towards reproducibility and open science for sure. It's a good practice for reproducibility. It's always difficult to achieve but it's very good contribution for your field. So thank you. And it's a great use case from epic sciences and thank you also Rafael and Celine to invite Matthias so feel free so we have some minutes before we move to the next part of the of the of this session so please first question to Matthias. So, I think the examples were great. Also please check the links that Matthias share in the beginning also Andrea also put here the example that Matthias was was presenting. I've seen already share. It's not a question it's more a comment that the co are the confederation of open access. The opposite with notify project is developing an interoperable approach to enable overlay journals and open preview scale and talk to connect with any compatible service or repository. So you can check information about this project get that Catherine is mentioning here in this site thank you Catherine for sharing this important initiative and related initiative maybe later be for sure. This is part of also an open air webinar. Any question, any comment feel free to. So if you don't want to write in the chat just just ask. I think it was also very comprehensive presentation and clear presentation. When you said when you said the fundraising so that is in the last sentence you you you share Matthias about the two main issues you said fundraising so it's what is the main. Yeah, that was mentioned by Raphael or maybe selling the fact that we're working with late. Based documents and so other centers there are there are files so that we can compile on our side and that's what take times. And so we would like to maybe send these two contractors and and pay them so of course we're still very very limited cost. I think we can maybe think about 100 euros per paper or something of this type. So this is a type of money we would like to raise to essentially functioned as a journal. So this is the idea for now. So it's little money, but you know side post and PCI. If you go to the website they announced every almost every day that they could they could raise money with three big amounts and we're not able to do this at the moment. Great. Many things okay. If you don't have any comment. So Colin Chris man also said thinking about long term management. As you said Matthias is your journal working on a succession plan or is the difficult not so much what the policy will be, but recruiting individuals to continue with the journal. Is your working on a succession plan. Yeah, well, I would not say that we're working on a section plan explicitly we have this question in mind of course. But we don't have any solution at the moment. And for the five co founders of the journal that was just like because we were very convinced that we had to do something of this type. So we have to resign we have to convince someone else that it's a nice, a nice journal. But if no one wants to take over, then that's the way it is. So yeah, that's, again, I think that's a prior witness at the moment. I think that the whole system has to change you know, if we can say in our yearly annual activity report that we are in charge of a diamond open access journal and and the system is happy with this, then we will have many, many colleagues. I wanted to be involved in this but at the moment that's not the case. Yes, and thank you for this, this last answer because this is really good to move to the next presentation feel free to also then at the end, say something also Matias and Rafael. And thank you for joining I think this is the what Matias said now it's really the right moment to move to the action plan back. Please present yourself from science Europe and and proceed your presentation and thank you very much. It's a pleasure to welcome you in this open air webinar and really thank you for your support. And so, let's, let's, let's hear from you. And maybe we will this action plan we have some kind of strategic approach to reply to some of the issues that Matias also highlighted. So let's see, let's move from a practical solution to the, to the roadmap. Yes, thank you Pedro for that introduction. So my name is brecht Salin, I am with science Europe science Europe is an association representing the main public research funding and performing organizations across Europe. And, and I am here today I'm very happy to be here today after these presentations by my fellow speakers to present the diamond open access action plan and essentially our work together with our partners on strengthening this ecosystem. And I think it's, it's as Pedro mentioned it's very good to now get to this action plan because what I think you see in the presentations that came before is that this is an ecosystem that not only exists, it thrives, this is very innovative there's very good work being done. Not just in these examples that we've seen but just across the board this is a vast big ecosystem as you will see. And, and now is a very good moment to to take stock of that ecosystem and also how can we strengthen it further because that was another thing that I picked up on throughout the presentations was that even though there's very good work being done. There are real challenges there's real challenges that go into the systemic level essentially and then go above any individual or any sort of journal or even platform to deal with this is this is something that will have to deal with together. And that brings me to my presentation diamond open access and the action plan. And in my presentation I want to give some attention to the action plan of course I'll get to that, but I want to start where we started about two years ago and talk you through the process of how we science Europe and our partner organizations started to get involved and what was sort of the inspiration behind that. So, I'm, I'm very briefly going to go through this defining diamonds open access. Oh, sorry. That was the wrong button clearly defining diamond open access this does not need to happen anymore but the definition that we arrived at this ultimately is these are journals and platforms that do not charge fees to either the offers or the readers. We are looking at a very, very different model as a PC open access publishing obviously. But beyond that we also feel that by enlarge diamond open access what you see very often you've seen that in the examples is this is typically community driven academic led and owned very important. That's the type of publishing initiatives we're talking about. And they also tend to serve a fine grained variety of generally, generally small scale multi lingual and multicultural scholarly communities. They are essentially equitable by nature and by design. So that is our definition of diamond open access that we're starting from. And I told you I was going to take you through the process how we arrived at the action plan because it's very important to realize how we got there. And eventually the way we arrived there was, we had a journal study published in last year in 2021. This was together with, you know, science together with coalition s opera in the French National Research Agency in our. brought together a for the first time I think I can really call this a landmark study on the diamond open access ecosystem because even though we realized that there was quite a lot going on. We didn't quite have the full picture. That was the reason this study started is that we felt this is an ecosystem we don't quite have a full grasp of like how big is this how much is going on here. And that is what this study was intended to do to get a full grasp as much as we could of this ecosystem and you see in the findings. This was a very extensive study it's not exhausted but it was a very extensive study a survey of 1619 journals to get with focus group interviews and and why do I call this a landmark study it's I think the first study to really establish the archipelago archipelago of 17,000 to 29,000 journals that that we found that that would fit to build that are part of this ecosystem, this is a vast, vast ecosystem that goes across different disciplines. You see there 60.6% in SSH, but also 17.1 in medicine and 22.2 in other sciences across different disciplines. And also very important to note 44% of open access journal publishing is diamond open access which it's about eight or 9% of the total publishing volume, which can be compared to 10 to 11% for APC gold. So it's, it's an enormous ecosystem that is incredibly important already today for scholarly publishing. And it's just generally not quite visible is the issue quite frankly it's because we, for example, only yesterday I was talking to somebody who is more familiar with the medicine, the discipline of medicine and he said well I haven't quite heard a lot about diamond open access, and then we could tell him based on the study well actually 17.1% of publishing is diamond open access in your discipline so again it's sort of, it's there it just not as visible. And that is why this study has been so consequential is to bring that up into the light and show this is a real vast and very performative ecosystem. At the same time, and this is what I said that came before in the presentations before this study did also identify a couple of main challenges really at the systemic level, or at the journal level, quite a few challenges in terms of technical capacity the management visibility, as I mentioned and also just a sustainability. None of these things are necessarily unique to diamond open access I don't want to say that this is only a challenge diamond open access publishing. But if we're looking at just diamond open access and yes these are some of the main challenges, the study brought to light and we also have one clear main recommendations which is more dialogue and commitment between the different stakeholders. This is an ecosystem if you want to strengthen it then we're going to have to look at a systemic level to strengthen it and we're going to need all the stakeholders to be involved in that dialogue and to be committed to that dialogue so that is the main recommendation that came out of the study. This is a study that was published sometime last year 2021 in March, and then what we we had, I believe, as I said a couple of times now a hugely consequential study in our hands with amazing findings about diamond open access. And it goes up to us the partners behind this study to think well what next, how do we take this forward how do we make sure that this study is not the end point but it is the start of something to actually do something about strengthening this ecosystem further and all the journalism platforms working in this ecosystem to do what they do on on a more sustainable basis to help them do even better work by removing some of these challenges. We arrived at and what we launched earlier this month in March it's very new is the action plan for diamond open access the action plan. Essentially, there is a link in the chat there's also link in the slides that will be disseminated after the presentations. And to substantially increase the capacity of diamond journals and platforms to provide innovative valid valid reliable and accessible publishing services is it is the next step after the study and the action plan and I'll get to it in just a minute in that action plan that was prepared again by Science Europe coalition as operas and the French National Research Agency in our, but it wasn't just us we had to study to build on and to start drafting this action plan. But we also from the very beginning wanted to involve the stakeholders wanted to involve the ecosystem and make sure we got it right, that we were identifying the right way forward and the right vision for this ecosystem. And that is why workshop workshop was held on the second of February where a draft was presented and discussed with many people from the ecosystem experts international experts also our own members and and a couple of smaller events were also held to really finalize the action plan. And then, that last point I'm going to get back to that interested organizations and individuals are welcome to join this community by endorsing the action plan you have the link there. I will get back to this, the link will also be later on in the slides. What is in the action plan. What did we ultimately put in there. We have four central elements. We said the priority objectives for the ecosystem is to improve the efficiency quality standards capacity building and sustainability of diamond open access that is taking a look at the entire ecosystem we felt out there are priorities for us to work on and really establish every if we want to strengthen this ecosystem in the long run. Two things I want to make very clear about this action plan, these are the four central elements is that yes there is a focus on alignment and building common resources for diamond open access journals, platforms and the whole ecosystem that is a big part of this action plan. We do respect the cultural multilingual and displaying diversity that we believe constitutes a strength of diamond open access the decentralized nature and the diversity of this ecosystem that we've found with the study is absolutely a strength and if we talk in the action plan about alignment and this that should be very clearly be understood as helping to maintain a very diverse set of journal and platforms that can do their own thing and only talk about alignment and common resources when it helps them to do that. This is not something about coordination and creating a single mold for the entire ecosystem that is not the intention here. I want to be very clear that that is not in these action plan. So those are the central elements. I have the central elements here on the slides. It's efficiency. As you can see it's quality standards and I'm just skipping through them. It is capacity building and it is sustainability sustainability maybe I will mention that that is not just financial sustainability we are also looking at legal status and governance of diamond open access. So it's broader than financial, but the reason I'm skipping through that is because well all of this is included a much more detail in the action plan you can read that for yourself I'm happy to provide more details of course. But the main thing here is that these are the four central elements and you can walk through them keeping in mind that yes alignment and common resources but also in function of maintaining and strengthening the existing diversity that is what the action plan is after. The reason I'm skipping them is that I can then go to I think is already my last slide and maybe we have more time for questions and feedback. And that is that this process now obviously continues the action plan exists it was launched earlier this month as I said in early March, the initial success has been astounding. We have had a great success you can see that on the website this publicly listed everyone who is endorsed it both at an organizational and an individual level. For example CNRS, I'm very happy that they were here to present because they've also endorsed the action plan. And the action plan now will be taken forward under the umbrella initially of a Horizon Europe project that I'm happy to announce has been awarded. It's a Diyamas project that will start in September of this year, and that project will give that consortium that's behind that project, the tools to build and strengthen and move forward from the action plan through events and activities. That is something that is starting in September. At the same time it's it's very good to know that all of the endorsers of the action plan are already now being involved and will soon be invited to provide their own feedback on how do you want to shape this process in the coming months and years. And that brings me finally to again the point I made in the beginning is that interested organizations and individuals are welcome to join this community by endorsing the action plan preempting a couple of questions I expect in the chat. I can't see the chat but I'm assuming maybe somebody is asking well is there any financial commitments to this like if we endorse it. Is there any financial commitment asked of us. No endorsement does not entail any financial commitment. I very briefly talked about that the sustainability element of the action plan that is going into the finances a long term finances the investments that may be needed to strengthen the ecosystem. But endorsing this action plan does not mean that you are committed. In the initial sense what you are committing to with the action plan instead is you're joining a community that wants to strengthen this ecosystem and believes that the action plan and its central elements are the way forward that you subscribe to the vision that speaks out of the action plan. And that you are okay with those central elements being the priority objectives or strengthening the ecosystem that is what endorsement means. And then, finally, on the link you can see there at the end, an overview of people and organizations have been endorsed it is publicly available are also very happy that many of them are also launching their own press releases being very vocal and very visible in saying we have a lot of scientists because we believe in this action plan. That is it for me. If there's any questions, I think Pedro will will manage that. But again, I'm also for just a moment keeping the link online here of online on the screen for people who are interested but I think also in the chat you can find the link directly to the action plan. That being said, thank you. And I look forward to your questions. Yes, please feel free to ask your questions put in the chat or just put your microphone on as Daniela is already doing. Yes, thank you Daniela. Hello. Thank you so much for this incredibly important work that you're doing at Science Europe. And I've already endorsed the action plan so I'm quite happy to see you moving forward. Also with the DMS project. This is the capacity of Zurich and we're kind of planning a study that is very similar to what you did in the diamond open access study for the Swiss platinum or diamond landscape. And in concerning your presentation is what you call a capacity center. Can you can you maybe elaborate what what is meant by that what kind of capacities will be kind of under the umbrella of that kind of center. Thank you so much. Thank you for endorsing and thank you for the question. I will be very vague. I'm sorry. It's it is indeed within the action plan a capacity center, which is in several different elements but also for example in sustainability part of it there is that capacity center announced. We will explore if if that makes sense and if that is a good thing for the ecosystem to have a capacity center like that where journals and platforms can go to to find know how find a lot of the tools that they need. But also maybe in the future, in terms of sort of the financial management of quite a few things. If that is sort of a one stop shop, perhaps for for the ecosystem to go to that they know that that exists. Do you immediately notice I'm relatively vague then in my answer it's not much more than is in the action plan the reason for that is that we have this as one of the potential ways forward in the action plan. But this is not something and I keep repeating this this is not for us now to say this absolutely has to happen or it has to happen in a certain way it has to do certain things. I think we have our own ideas of partners behind the action plan. But this is where we need a discussion with the community because for example for this capacity center to really be self sustaining and really be a part of the community I think you also need to start looking at the governance of the center itself who is a decision center if that center is founded and they will then to a large extent decide what the capacity center becomes. So that is why I'm staying relatively vague about this, but this is one of the things that we are hoping to discuss with the community with the endorsing organizations and individuals pretty soon. We haven't gone out quite yet, I think but if you've endorsed the action plan quite soon from us you can expect an invitation to an online event where we are going to be asking these types of questions, as we prepare for the Amazon project to start in September to take the action plan forward. Thank you. I'm a little is asking about who are diamonds partners and where can we find more information about the project. Yes. I was just going to pick up on that. It is an enormous consortium so it's it's it's clearly sort of the partners that were on the slides that are behind the action plan but the consortium is much much bigger. I don't immediately have the full list here on my laptop to project it, but if he is interested then he can get in touch with me via email I can and can definitely send you the list. Nothing is online yet there's also no easy link that I can send to because this is really in preparation now for September. The partners that you saw on the slides, we are in it. The European University Association, for example, I'm going to be forgetting a lot of partners, but you ways in it and that's for example something to highlight is that as science Europe is representing research funding and performing organizations were also very happy in this project to have the universities represented which brings us back to the main recommendation of the study which is if we're going to be using the ecosystem then we are going to have to have all the stakeholders run the table in that dialogue and to be committed to that dialogue so remain please get in touch with me. I'll be happy to send you the list now that it's still not online. But what you will see is that we've hopefully done a very good job and getting all the different stakeholders represented within the project. Many thanks. So I already shared also the your slides that you have mentioned several times so they are already here in the shot also please feel free to add questions so we have seven, eight minutes more but of course we can finish before the time. So Rafael Salin and Matias if you want to add something please feel free but as Daniela did if you want to ask questions feel free so so how do you reply to you yes so we are recordings and we are recording and we will be made this available via the open air channels and so we are going to send to all registered participants also an highlight so later today or tomorrow morning this will be available as we usually do any other comment question so I now invite all the speakers if you want to add something add something to ask something or just to that you want to remind something about your presentation so feel free so Rafael feel yes thank you so I just wanted to to come back to something that I can share outside in the chat so this is really interesting. It is not in production for our platform right now but it is under development it means that soon the repository and the AP Sciences platform will leverage the co-notified protocol or protocol I guess maybe so this would be really interesting for all we could be interconnected to all of our services like PCI for instance or AP Sciences of course and any other compliant platform that is compliant with co-notified. Also we will be able to submit programs from all to to AP Sciences within the environment means that you don't have to switch from the program server to the journal website this will be easier for researchers to submit programs with this with this solution. So this is really a great session but it is not right now in production but hopefully it will soon be available on all and AP Sciences and also on PCI. Thank you. Thank you Rafael. Yes Celine if you want to add some final comment feel free. Yes thank you very much for inviting us to present our work today it was a pleasure to be here with you and thank you thank you Matias and thank you Brett and Pedro and André for organizing this meeting. Thank you very much. Okay so thank you Matias Berkta I'm not sure let me check the final and do a final check to the chat no no more comments so. I wanted to if we have like a. Of course of course of course we have. Just one thing so in my presentation. I focused on on the action plan and the process behind it past present and future. Since we have a couple of minutes and since I am seeing so many people that that I recognize the names of like in the open science community and the broader transition to open science. I wanted to highlight for a very quick minutes, the connections to the broader connections to the transition to open science that we are seeing right now. We're seeing quite a lot of debates in the transition to open science about the equitability of that transition how equitable is that transition. This is like a very obvious link to our work on time and open access which is a very different model from APC's where we want to be very clear that in our minds. Open access publishing is not something that is only for those who can pay it. This is actually sort of the big discussion with APC's that are quite excessive at times. And then there is starting to become this idea that if you want to do open access. There's quite a few people now starting slowly starting to assume oh well that's APC's that is costly if you have an institution, or grant that you can pay that that then you can do open access diamond open access. So what I think there is it shows quite clearly that that is not true that this is not something that is only available open access publishing is not only available if you have the funding. That is not necessarily true that is not how it should be in our opinion. So that is a big link there in that discussion on open science in general the the discussion about equity that I think now really is coming to the foreground. The publication of the UNESCO recommendation on open science I think diamond open access is a part of that discussion. And then obviously there are quite a few more related discussions but I just wanted to point that out at the end, because I don't think that this can be repeated enough. Thank you. Yeah, thank you very much good point. And with this we are coming to an end so we are going to send the presentations in the recordings, they will be made available also online in the common in the normal open air website thank you very much for all the speakers Celine. Yes Rafael and Berks. Thank you very much for joining so open areas is committed with committed to the shift Scholar communications towards openness and transparency. So the services that we have in open air nexus and we are working to on the onboarding process for us can to enrich and improve the services are also addressing this this challenge so count with us we will have. We will organize for sure more webinars in the coming months in April, and in May also about other services about also horizon Europe open open science requirements but please wait be expect more information from from our side about coming webinars. So, thank you all. See you. So I will just leave the, the session open for you to copy paste some links from the shot, and then we close the session. Berks, many thanks for your presentation. Okay, for your availability. Bye bye all.