 everything on a daily basis. You guys want a burger? No, I don't want a burger because he's speaking about these things. Oh, really? What's the matter? I'm just about what's going on on these screens. It's not appropriate. Why? Who said... People, just like you saw, were stuck with a sign that could be seen as offensive. People can't even see it, but they pay for it to happen. You know, it's pure hypocrisy. She'd probably go in whoever it was, a man or a female. Probably went and bought a burger after it. Yeah, but I've done this for years. Never had any problems. I've worked in the same six years and I've never seen anything like this. I've seen signs held up. I've seen writing of, you know, an explanation, but I've never actually seen visual pictures on a screen. There's a massive movement all over the UK. Yeah, there's one thing I've had in an opinion. I've been to these people's rights to be me or be vegan, but to show that on a screen when there's kids walking past seems a bit... All it is is showing them how it's made. How their food's made. You know what I mean? So they're paying for it, so they've got a right to know. Right. This is all legal standard practice in the UK. You can tell it. You can say that sort of verbally, can't you? You don't need to have it on a screen. No, no, no. It doesn't make any sense without showing it to them. Because, hey, this is legal standard practice in the UK. I'm just showing people what happens. Okay. This is legal. I mean, is this what I'm doing illegal? Like with these signs? Are you going to... It's what it is. It's causing harassment to people that are walking past. It's causing alarm, and it's causing distress to the telephone call about it. From who? One person? It doesn't matter how many people. Yeah, it does. It only takes one person to be up. Well, I want to know if I'm breaking the law, because I could be offended at that guy over there for wearing a red t-shirt, and I could call you. Are you going to tell him to take his t-shirt off? Well, that's different, isn't it? Showing animals being killed. Well, this is standard legal practice in the UK. Okay. Well, it's okay. We're going to get an officer to come down and speak to you about it. Are you a police officer? No. Oh, you're a community... You're not a cop. I'm not being rude or anything, but the cops are more... No. The police speak to this male. He's kind of almost speaking to himself to do these guzzles. No, no, no, no. No, that's not it. Yes, you did. You just called us to get a police officer down. Because I don't... I want to know if it's against the law. No, no, no. I want to know if it's against the law, that's why. I've done this for years in the UK. So I've never been told it's against the law to show people slaughter footage. What law am I breaking, by the way? To be honest, it's more of a... I think that I've never seen this. So I've never come across it. It's something new to me. Are you shocked by it? Is it upsetting you? All I'm saying is, people are going to display things or have signs and something. We get phone calls about it. If someone is alarmed by something or distressed or harassed, that is an offense to them. You're not harassing anyone. They've got a choice to look away. I'm not walking up to anyone. I'm standing still here. You could say that about someone. We could say that about someone preaching about the Koran and someone gets offended about that. Are you going to stop them from doing that? We do do, yeah. I'm a vegan, so... Stop someone the other day for holding something up that people aren't offensive. They have to be absolutely told to put it away and move on. People are ringing us and telling us that they are bothered by it. How many? How many? If it's one, then it doesn't matter. But if it's 20, 30, 40, 50, then you've got a problem. But I mean, this is just showing people what they're paying for. How are you supposed to educate people? To figure, though, is it not like, oh, if one person says it, or 20 people say it? Well, one person's always going to be offended with everything you do. So you can never do anything about that logic. But if it's a significant problem, there'll be people here shouting at me, turn it off, turn it off. No one's come up to me and said they had a problem. Since 2 a.m., 2 p.m., so probably about two hours, no one's said anything. If anyone's come up to me and got angry and then they called you, I'd understand, but someone's just made the cool walking pass where they can look away and they can move their kids away. There's no one forcing them to watch this. Just stand in here. And this is all legal standard practice. This footage is all gathered in either the UK or Australia. People pay for this. They deserve to know what happens. They eat it. They feed their kids bacon, but they don't know how it's made. So I'm showing them. I'm giving out food to homeless people. I'm giving out food to people who are interested, giving out information. I'm being kind. I'm not yelling at anyone. I'm trying to create peace on Earth. I'm not trying to cause, you know, the animals are suffering, not the people looking at it. They're causing it. I'm just trying to show them like, hey, there's a better way. And you can't do it by talking to people without showing them because you look at that, it makes you upset and it probably makes you think twice about it. But if I just talk to you about it, it doesn't do it justice. You know? He just did it. Like I said, we've had a phone call. They've not confirmed to me how many people. So we have to come over and talk to you about it. I understand. Like I said, it's just going to be up to whoever arrives to see if it is, you know, an issue. If you responded to every call of someone being offended, like it's just one thing. There's always someone out there that's going to be offended. But if it was a consistent... There's once you've been offended by someone who's got, you know, the wrong shoes on and there's another thing being offended by that you won't think so or someone saying something like, it could be homophobic, racist, or something like that. I get that. People are going to phone, aren't they? I get that. Someone's saying things like... If you're going to find one of these then this is going to call and this is going to create some of them. So I mean, it's not always going to be positive, is it? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but for the most part today, people have been loving this. They've been like, thank you for telling me they've taken information, having a burger. So, like, I haven't experienced anyone come up to me yelling at me, I don't have a black eye. Most people have been really positive about this. I'm not telling people to abuse animals. I'm asking people to stop abusing animals. Like, I'm doing a good thing. This is just new on me. Yeah, yeah, I get it. I've never seen screens off with this. I've seen grubboes, I've seen burrows, I've seen whatever. So this is a new one I'm seeing. And I wasn't trying to offend you. It's just that police usually have more interactions with our students. I didn't know whether or not if you were aware of this or not. And maybe the police were. I wasn't trying to offend you by saying, oh, you're only a CSO or whatever like. But yeah. Because the police come to our vigils, we go to slaughterhouses and the police are always there to monitor. There's a big movement of what we're doing here. It's a bit different, different but like there's hurflings experience, there's anonymous for the voiceless and they do exactly the same thing and rarely ever has anyone ever been moved on by the police or arrested for doing something like this. No, I'm not saying that's going to happen here, it's just someone else needs to come down and have a look at them. Okay, do you want some food? I'm alright. You sure? No. Okay. Hey buddy. Yeah, we've just been called. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's alright. I didn't want to come over and be moved. No, of course not. It's just right now what's going on. Yeah, so basically we do this type of education all the time and the lady, I didn't mean to offend her or anything but like I didn't think that what I was doing was illegal, we just trying to get people to avoid animal cruelty and I'm handing out some food and giving people a pamphlet. Yeah. No one's complained to me but I don't know if someone called in the background or something but they didn't let us know. We've had a really positive response today so. I'd imagine what's come through towards it is the member of the group has reported it to us obviously saying that animal has been spawned or something like that. Yeah. When people get upset about it, it's quite disgusting isn't it? For certain people, yeah it is. Yeah. Yeah, of course. I've had 35. I think it's been killed. I don't know. This is the reality isn't it? It's not like something horrible. This is what food comes from isn't it? I don't understand if it's not real. I don't understand if it's not real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand if it's showing like you know like child cruelty or something. I understand it's not happening but this is where it's legal. Yeah, this is legal standard practice in the UK so. Yeah. But how many people have complained to you? I don't. At first, more. One complaint. So, I mean is that enough? Yeah. It's called someone. It's going to be a victim of the global interest for this person. Not the stress I've got to call the police. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But it's one person enough for you to. Am I doing something illegal now? Yeah. I don't understand it. It's to be offended. Yeah. So like if I got offended because I'm showing this animal cruelty, just for example, I'm asking people to stop being called animals, right? Someone can go in there and buy a bacon sandwich. I'll call you and I'm offended that they're walking around with a bacon sandwich. No, I'm asking you if this is the logic here because I could be offended that someone's eating me. Let me speak to him. I could be offended someone's eating me and call you and you have to tell them to put that away or move along or why not? It's not a visible sign you say. You've seen a sandwich. It's not a visible sign. It's coming from this place of cruelty. So I could essentially call you under the same logic, be offended, and you would have to remove that person. But I'm sure you're not. Sorry, brother. I'm sure you're not. It's the same thing, dude. No. You're acting like someone's offended one person that everyone else has been really positive about it. I know. They're in there. Sorry. Some sandwiches are like a room that's shot. You've called here and you're expecting it. That's legal. It doesn't bother you. I could be offended seeing a steak. You've got one done or? I'm one person. You're not going to act on that. You're going to laugh at me. But if one person got offended by this, but 99% of people were having a burger that were fine, it was all good. I don't understand why now I'm doing something illegal when most people were fine with it. You're here too much to get into. You're one person, you know what I mean? But if there was two, four, five, six, I understand I'd be like, okay, this is causing... No one come up and yelled at me, dude. No one was... Everyone was chilling. There's a few homeless people here. We're having some food with them, having a good conversation. No one said anything to me. And you've got one call and now four or five officers. You know what I mean? And we're trying to do a good thing. We're trying to do a good thing here, you know what I mean? We're not hurting anyone. I'm not forcing anyone. They can look away. They can walk past. They can keep walking. We're just trying to do a positive thing for animals. That's all. Yeah, no worries, but I'm going to give him some of the equipment because he needs some of the equipment. Yeah, so like, I don't know... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I gave you the example of someone walking around in the KFC. It's all about perspective. It's subjective. I want to go vegan or I want to stop abusing animals. Educating people. We're trying to educate people. It's just stress one person. So it's about intention now. My intention is to educate people. I don't want to hurt people's feelings or anything. I'm just trying to educate them on what happens to animals, you know? Yeah, but they'll go in and pay for it and then I'll get the stress watching them pay for this animal cruelty. You know what I mean? My intention is to educate. It's not always to stress people. It's to educate people. It's subjective, you mean? It's subjective. You'd have to go off more than one person, I mean. You'd have to go off more than one person because about 300 people have bought pasta. Because there's always going to be one. If it was five or six, then I would agree with you and go, okay, this is causing drama. But one person, I could make it cool to you right now and you'd have to act on it under that same logic because I got offended that there's whatever, I don't know. Maybe I'm a Christian and there's Muslims preaching and they're saying, Karan's the way to go and I'm a Christian. One person calls you, you're not going to... So what's the go from here on? Do you want this off now? Is it breaking the law if I don't leave these on or just have to turn them off? It's not the same, it just doesn't... Yeah, yeah, but if people don't see this, they're not going to be affected, they're not going to be persuaded to change and they're just going to see a burger. This here shows people what they're paying for. This is all legal standard practice, so if they're happy to pay for it, then continue to pay for it. If you can't even see it, then why are you paying for it? And this is what helps people change. What I do persuades people away from being cruel to animals, which is all I'm trying to do. If you've got 10 calls and there was people yelling at me, spitting on me, and I'm saying, if I was doing something racist, for instance, there would be... One person, does that really have enough... If one person called your police station, does that really have enough leeway when you can see what's happening here? Look around. Is it causing people distress? They can just look away. By the way, there's thousands of people passing by. There's only one person. It's not everyone. It would be stress. We're talking about a reasonable person. You only know if they call the station and let you know. And if you've only got one call, then it's obviously not enough for people to be so offended that they're calling you more than once. And there's been about two, three... I've been here for two hours. No one said anything. Everyone's been having a burger, having a good time. But I understand you have to act because you've got the call, but I don't know if it's reasonable to act off one person. That's all I'm saying. If you look like... If you hang around here, you can stand there and see what goes on. And if you think it's really causing that much problems, then I'll agree with you, but I haven't seen it. Why don't you go for at least if there's one more, then you've got two, and then we'll pull it up. If you've only got one... Come back. I'll give you my word. I'll give you my word. If you've got two calls to the station, then I'll take it down. I work with people who are vegan, so I'm not... I'm not... One person called you. That's irrelevant. It's pretty relevant. Because it shows that it's not... If I was having a burger, I'd be like, I'd be like, I'd be like, because it shows that it's not... If I had a Nazi sign here, yeah, because that's offensive, and it's wrong. People know I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart, not trying to hurt anyone. You know, yeah. You're not acting personally, because you've got the call. Do you want me turn these off or I can't continue? Or are you going to give it one more time? If you get another call, then I'll turn them on. Well, if we're going on the route, we'd obviously prefer to turn it off. Adore your details. Yeah, I know. Like, what I'm saying is if you do that, if you come here and turn these off, that's like freedom of speech gone. That's like, you're acting up for one person, their word against mine. You've caused one person to be distressed enough to call. Yeah. Yeah. And that's enough for you to act like this. I wouldn't see them as a victim of crime. I see them as a victim of being offended, which isn't a crime. Isn't it subjective to you? Don't you have to come up and analyse it and go... Yeah, you are repeating yourself. Sorry. But under what law do I have to shut these off? Is there a law that I would be breaking? That's what I want to know. Public order offence. So I'd get arrested if I kept displaying these at this point. But are you saying that... Are you then saying that in the future, if I want to do this, I'll get arrested because you've given me a warning? So if someone... If I do this again and no one calls, then it's cool. Yeah, that's a bit different. Yeah, that's different. I'm like, OK, I do this now, and then basically we can never do this again. And we've been doing it for years here. It's all over the UK, all over the world. And the police have never... You know, we've had conversations like this before with the police, but it's never shut it down completely. If we walk past, we walk through all this and turn it off. Because we've been called to this for someone to call us. It makes it a different matter. You know, that's an interesting quote, like before I will turn it off. But if it's not good enough for your eyes, your stomach, you know what I mean? People can't even see it, but they pay for it to happen. It's pure hypocrisy. She'd probably go in, whoever it was, a man or a female, probably went and bought a burger after it. I don't want to see how my animals are slaughtered, but I'll turn it off because I understand your position that you're in. You're not personally coming in, someone called you, they got offended, you have to act. We really do appreciate the fact that you've been there. As I said, if you walk, you don't want to offend or want to cry. Technically, we won't put the cry in. But are you going to be there for the rest of the day? Yeah, I'm just going to give the breast of that food out, give out some equipment away to some homeless guys that I saw over here. Do you want to try if you can burger, or are we offering big burgers? Yeah, I can cook with a burger if you want. But yeah, that's cool. Without me questioning these things, I'd just be like, OK, so I want to get to the bottom of it before I just accept. I fully agree with what you're saying. You're acting as a police officer being received to call. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get it. I fully understand. I think it's crazy that people get offended by how their food's made, though. It actually proves my point even further, you know what I mean? I've tried the plumber, this big breast of beef, I do like it. Would you like to try it, because I've tried this before. You can't on the job. I will do two cents after that. I apologise. I'm sorry. That's all right. I'll just question you because I'm going to question it, aren't I? Absolutely. Because you could have just at least trying to please people. I want to know if it's actually a law and if I'm breaking it. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. The crazy upside down world of meat-eating. I don't know. If two dozen of us called up KFC, called up the same police station, I wonder how they would probably just laugh at us. I said okay, I'm going to call the cops tell them I'm offended at that bloody burger and someone eating a burger in my face. He said no, their intention isn't to cause you distress, my intention is to cause people distress. My intention is to educate. If it causes them distress, stop paying for it. Someone's just been offended that I'm showing them how their food's made, enough so that they've called the police and reported me. Police officers seem nice, but they have to act on that type of thing, don't they? It's just crazy how people can pay for this, go and pay for it, eat it. The only reason these places exist is because they call them and then they call the police on me for trying to expose the place to the public and try to educate people on it. If I didn't turn off those screens I'd be committing an offence and you'd have to write whatever. Put it on my record, I suppose. From an ex-gang member now a vegan activist still getting in trouble with the cops. I got in trouble with the cops for doing the wrong thing. Getting in trouble with the cops for doing the wrong thing. Put more burgers left, we'll hand them out. Who had mayo? One for you? One for you, okay. Good? No worries, guys. Okay, so God's word is here. This is how you know. This is God's word. Now anyone who wants to translate God for me, I don't believe them. Well, look. Human, humans can fly.