 Guys we are Praveen and Dhruv and we were here around two weeks back and what we do is we call ourselves A4 and we started off as researching within the domain of crafts and then we came across a method of research called speculative design and dispersive design. In gathering research through these practices and so moving on from crafts we just wrapped up our craft bit a few days back and the new workshop we will try to scope the trends that are there right now and work from home seem to be a very it's everybody knows that this is the new paradigm right now and so we wanted to explore that what people think of work from home and what people really aspire from this whole phenomenon that how do they want to work from home. More than how it is right now and more than the natural growth it's going to take we really want to tap into aspirations of the people and what people want from their culture of work from home or working from anywhere that matter. And so we had like a few prompts the starting these were the questions that we were just asking that what are the usual conversations that happen in a work from home environment and anywhere me and then we started to kind of build our own stories that what else can happen. A kind of digital avatar just fly away from the screen and does work from anywhere implies that the person's geography or geographical location is really an ambiguous space right now that a person can be sitting inside a Shikhar hour can be traveling in a plane and still be working. So such interesting cues we tried to understand with our conversations and so moving on what exactly is A4 and HR. So the word A4 literally translated into Hindi becomes HR and the point of HR was to pick is sort of pick your ideas and speculation and pickling have some sort of thing in common that you mix a lot of things together you mix a lot of triggers together you try to arrange them in a particular order in the taste of the result comes out after a certain point of time. So so that became kind of a name and I think we would like to say something about the thing. Thanks. Hello everyone so I would just like to address some things which we got through conversations after the last session. So it was we were very happy to see like a lot of people appreciated the speculative HR session and we figured that there is a space in India especially where we could talk about India centric speculation and what you know what our aspirations toward futures are instead of taking cues or even processes from the western concepts. So I just wanted to address few things before we move on was that we guys are open to collaborate or to work on different things is just that and we have really appreciated those responses we got from people about some very hard social issues also is is just that you know we would prefer since we are a door right so we take us up of subject and then we go for that particular topic on research or workshop or tool making. So if you guys want to discuss things on a particular topic we would like you to also take part and you know like maybe take it forward with with a for HR or maybe independently. So that was a bit which I would like to make it clear and I think that will be all these messages so that we could figure out like what other ways we could interact maybe a forum maybe a slack channel or maybe even a discord channel or whatever ways we could figure out. So that will be it from me. Yeah. Yeah. Also at this point I would like to say that what we try to build is a space where we can have some indigenous tool kits to futures that we as a localized community aspire for. So we do take on from from various references here and there but we try to you know, localize the toolkit as much as possible for the activity which we're going to do today. Moving on. So, yeah. So when we start off from the map the culture of work from home. So what we and what we usually do is me and Praveen is that we will look at two kinds of research sources. And one of them is the cultural research source and they can be Jeff's means and social media chats, etc social media platforms, etc. And then we also try to look at mainstream journalism like newspapers and blogs and things which can be credited for and so we'll start with some some triggers that we found, especially in the form of memes and they're always very entertaining. So we'll start off from our own workstations right now so the left one is my workstation. The right one is Praveen's and very interestingly both of them look very much the same because fortunately or unfortunately our workstations are centered around these devices screens to be very particular and Praveen has two screens. So yeah, and moving on. So these are some memes that we got that. So these are not just basis and like sources of humor for us like we we try to get memes from particular categories of a particular phenomenon. So for example, for from work from home, there are various perspectives to look at it that some jobs like railroad workers might just not find any relevance right now, right now because of pandemic situation and how does work from home apply to certain things which are very site specific jobs. And then this one talks about the blaring boundaries between the permission and the personal life that you're confused between working from home or and working for home. So this is also a usual problem in classes and since I'm a teacher so I can relate with this meme right now very much that the cameras in our devices are have a very good knack for making us ugly because they come from a very interesting technicality. And what would Pablo Escobar do when he doesn't have an access to a desk phone so this this kind of address is that there are certain artifacts of the office or certain evidences in the office that we are really attached to. And this is a later realization that I have had that earlier it was kind of an exciting thing to teach from home and everything and not leave home and work from your own comfort. But then you eventually you start to miss the environment you were in and call it institutionalization or call it just being habitual to space. You do miss office and some of its artifacts. So this became an interesting source. Then we had some news snippets. So these are like details we'll just move on to the next one where we try to get triggers from these snippets that we look at people moving away from uncongenial cities because work is really becoming a very localized activity. Which you do from your own desk. So the absence of the necessity of an office really is making people question the cities that they're living in. And just on the merit of living how well designed these cities are or how conducive these cities are or is it time to really move away from these aggregated cities. And another thing is that companies are looking at complete work from home so that's going to be a phenomenon that is going to be triggered whether the pandemic remains or not. So this will be like a residual effect that many companies are realizing that we're saving a lot of money. SBI for example, State Bank of India, my father works in the State Bank of India and I could never imagine such an archaic institution planning a work from anywhere policy. So this is going to be a really interesting thing happening in this domain particularly in the public sector jobs in India. And IBM has also reduced office spaces. And another thing that we understood that the current state of work from home and employees, the current jumble that we are in, the current ambiguity that we are in, employees aren't exactly happy. And big happiness is a construct of course. But then many reasons like a blaring of professional and personal boundaries and the workload not being managed effectively. And the absolute discomfort of the city that you are living in sometimes makes a work from home and not so desirable activity also. And we have seen this rise of mental health issues during the pandemic and people living inside. Although there are like many reasons for that, but then of course confined to small spaces and not being able to experience a change of visual sceneries is definitely one of them. And moving on. So what is the future of work from home? So the next construct that we're going to show you. It is a very preferable construct that we have built like we have picked in, for example, these keywords also there's a lot of news that has been generated and trend forecast that have been generated about work from home and work from anywhere and how and in what forms it will manifest itself. But we choose the triggers that we seem are preferable to our own. And another thing is that these, like the activities that we're going to do, they're not prediction of sorts. There are preferences that we're going to choose a preferential scenario. So curation is really important to the triggers that what triggers you choose for your world and what triggers you do not choose for this future that you're looking at. So for us the triggers became a lot of things and we're going to move to an activity where we going to indulge you guys into putting your own triggers on the table. And it's a very simple activity. So we have a Miro bold link. We'll just quickly copy it into the chat window in zoom. So you guys can quickly go there and Miro for a minute I think everybody could log in. Yeah, and I hope people have an access to a laptop and they are preferably online through the laptop. So that will definitely you have to sign up from a Google account. So I'll stop sharing the screen for once and I'll open the chat window. Ravina you're putting it in the chat window. Yeah, I have already placed you just set to the Miro. So I'll just shift to Miro. So Miro is this tool. I already see four people here and you guys can also see the arrows. So this is the interface that we're looking for and wait for a minute or two so that people can sign up. You guys can sign up from a Google account and it's a fairly easy procedure. And you should be able to land on this page. Title WFH and you should be able to see these arrows. So many of us are using this tool. I'll talk about the tool a little bit because it's a nice tool. I came across this tool when I was teaching a class earlier this year. And it's become a very nice course management system. And then I understood that this is a bigger tool. So it was called real-time board a while back. Now they have re-valued it as Miro. We wanted to be on this page titled activity one. Till we wait, I think I'll explain what we are trying to do here. So as you can see, there are a grid of three by three. On the left side you'll see there's an activity and on the bottom axis you could see it's called productivity. So what we want is just like, we want to know what are one of your personal anecdotes from your current work from home scenarios. We have just grouped it in the form that maybe few things you do with a group, like with colleagues or few things you do with your friends or few things you used to do as an individual. So something like when you were not working from home, going to smoke was something of a group activity where you would go with friends. And it was of a low productivity value. I mean, there is no work productivity to it. So if you say in similar way, if you want to put something like that, one of your anecdotes. Okay, just a second, I think I'll put the boards behind. So you guys can easily just, I think, think to forward this. Yeah, anybody who wants to share their own anecdotes, what conversations they are having in their own life right now work from home. So you guys can take one of those sticky notes and just place it where you feel it generally comes to. We'll do it like for five, ten minutes. Five minutes will be enough, I guess. Yeah. I'll go through the... Can you repeat the activity? Yeah. So what you have to do is, you know, you can pick one of the post-its from the left side and you could put a few of the anecdotes which you have right now when you work from home. Like I'm a freelancer. So it's like if you could see where I've written that in the bottom productivity space that I generally watch Netflix while listening to webinars. So it's a very individual thing, but this is what some of the ritual has been for me while working from home as a freelancer. So in a similar way, you know, like things which you are doing even right now, like if you come on a group call for birthday celebration and some things like that about interactions you have right now in your work from home settings, you just place it there. Was it clear, Rambeka? I'll just go through it again. So we have like three columns of activities. One says that the activities of a low productivity spectrum and a medium productivity spectrum and a high productivity spectrum. So let's say Praveen says that he likes watching Netflix while listening to webinars. So he gets work done and he also enjoys himself. So I don't know how that is possible though Praveen. He likes watching Netflix and watching a webinar and listening to webinars. It's just very ambiguous, but it is just what Praveen does. So according to him, this is a medium productivity activity which he enjoys individually. So the Y-axis is the individual friends and family and group spectrum and the H-axis is the intensity of the productivity. Is it a low productivity act? Is it a high productivity act? Or is it somewhere in between? So let's say I have put a thing that like pulling and jokes during lunch. Somebody else is on this. So they're saying that this is usually a group activity that during lunchtime you try to joke around with your colleagues and it happens in a group and it's a low productivity activity and who even decides productivity? So that is a very grey area. You guys can have a very different set of rules for productivity. So I think you guys can get the hand over it now. We also try just feeling along and if you're out of postage, you can just copy from another one. Control scene, control view and I'll just put a stack again. Added some orange. So we have these various colours there. So let's start reading out. Let's see the music and complete immediate tasks. So this becomes a high productivity task for someone and it's an individual task. Using Figma or Discord for collaboration. Can we put things in the middle or they are supposed to be only in the rectangle? No, you can put the things within the rectangle. In the middle saying you want to create another spectrum between medium and high. Yeah. That is possible. Why not? Thanks. Working at home with a baby. I don't see much pets happening. That is very interesting. We have a lot of people here but others have people who are not willing to join. We'll leave the link open. Your share screen. Yeah, I just want to find something. Some people aren't feeling comfortable to sign up. Maybe you can allow them on a slide on Google Sheet and we can place that stuff on one of us. One of us could simultaneously be pasting it on the middle. Yeah, we can do that. Is Google slides okay Kiran? We can also use the Hazik page. We can put it in the comments. Yeah, we could put it in the comments. But then we will not know where it fits in the spectrum. Or we can just, I'll try to copy the thing on the internet. Internet is breaking often. I could make a sheet if required. I'll make a sheet. I'll just put a screenshot of whatever is the existing one. Yeah, that is also... You can just add it to the chat screen. You can just say that it's an individual high productivity task and then you can... Then you need to continue sharing your screen. Yeah, I'll just continue sharing the screen and we'll keep adding from the chat box itself. Whoever is not able to join on Mero, you guys can just... You share the screen and we will add the chat from chat. Praveen, could you just repeat how to take sticky notes? I'm getting some messages separately asking. Okay, on this side of the screen, you might find... If you can look at the Zoom screen right now. So I am pointing at a sticky note. So if you hover over it, it says sticky note, you can just quickly put it. And there are colors and you can put a sticky note. You can resize it. It's responsive. The font size will change according to the size of the sticky note. So you just need to start right here. Change the color. Or you can just copy an already existing sticky note. Control C, control V. You can just change it. That can also happen. So for example, I do some cleaning usually at midnight because it's a great time to... Just not have people walking in or you yourself working too much. So that for me is a high productivity task. Although I do not accomplish anything worth related. But then that is productivity. We need to get a clean workspace. So it is really subjective. Take it around. You can already see that there's a lack of group activities right now, of course. And the individual section is getting a little crowded. And apparently most people are medium to high productive. Very nice. We are seeing how it's happening about chores. This has become a very interesting topic for us. I don't know if it will create chaos. But perhaps maybe more people can talk on the mic and then it will not be such a silent meeting. I don't know if that's okay with you guys. No, it's totally fine. We hope they prefer a very open forum for these meetings. It's just that it's online. If you want to speak or share or anything, ask questions to each other. So the floor is open. People are not able to join in on me. You guys can speak out your inputs. For me, I will join and work in the mornings. I can't work in the daytime at all because if there is any sound around me, I can't work. So I basically get all my work done at night starting at midnight. Nice. Same for me, almost. One thing that I find very similar, the temporal boundaries, the timelines of the day are really changing for me. Because I have a more sporadic speak pattern now. I sleep like four hours and three hours. Because there is a lot going on simultaneously also. I have a main place of work in the gym and then I keep doing research and I keep doing my own things. We are in the house, so you keep engaging in the house also. So I think sleep is one thing that we might find that everyone is affected somewhere or the other. I think we have good enough responses from this exercise. We can move forward. Guys, this is open for the mirror board. At the first you have the link. There is no point in closing it now. You guys can keep adding while we are moving on also. And we will move to the next activity. So if you guys can just quickly look at the presentation right now that I am sharing on the screen. You guys can keep adding also in the mirror board. Just keep an eye here also. So moving on to the preferable world that we just went through an exercise where we tried to document a present-day activity. And kind of not only activities. Some people have also shared like the bend of mind that they have, like the thought structure that they have right now in the form of an activity. So that is also very interesting that we are really seeing that where we are right now, this whole phenomenon of world from home happening to us. So this becomes like a very important connection of idea. Because collectively as a group of people we are feeling a lot of things. That in itself opens up a lot of possibilities that can arise henceforth. So the kind of preferable scenario that we are looking at is there are many, there are triggers that have been happening in the past few years. And one of the most interesting triggers that recently happened is that EIA is still, it's not exactly past right now. But then EIA is going to happen and it's environmental impact. And how it's going to affect the larger chunks of forests and how that is going to create a need for a more sporadic forest movement. So we look at a people's movement of sorts where people start planting sporadic forests, not as an aggregated big chunk of greenery, but small more doable pieces of land which an individual can tend to. And we have seen these triggers happening in the past few years where individuals have taken on extraordinary journeys to make larger chunks of land, green, not only in India and the parts of the world. And we also look at trends of urban vertical farms where in cities like Pune, so I was recently looking at a forest school concept that's going to be developed in Pune. And it's kind of very much aligned to the ideas that we've already seen of the vertical forests. And we see some off, yeah, okay Praveen. Okay. The host is asking you to start my video. Hi guys. So off-city habitats, we see a lot of off-city habitats happening where people move away from very organically and how do you say it, from organized cities which are not the best places for living right now. So we hope people realize that and they move to not exactly suburbs of sorts but then a more intrusive kind of, how do you say Praveen? What exactly do you mean? You're on mute. I was on mute, sorry. So it's more like people in our cities would prefer to move around, right? Like even if you are a corporate person, you are anyway going, moving around to visit places. We thought that they will be a whole culture of corporate Vekapons. They will be always traveling around in different cities. For something called gypsy entrepreneurs, we figured that when people are more able to live at their own places, able to access technology very easily. So maybe more people will return to their smaller towns and they will create companies there and to use the networking effect, they will travel around gypsies through different towns and cities to increase their net worth instead of just sitting in a center and having more employees to just go around there because I think more people will be in an entrepreneurial setting. And about the decentralized production centers, we thought since most of the production centers, people have moved, even in this COVID situation, people migrated back and the issue was that big factories were closing down and I think the trend will pick up that big factories might not be a productive business. So people will move to the second tier towns in India and they will have more smaller factories, distributed factories which is actually the general norm in our secondary towns. Even if you see an industrial town, it is more, except the bigger companies there, it is having a more collection of smaller, smaller factories run by individuals. So that is another preferred path we think we will be taking in India. And just a thing I would like to make a point that this exercise of world-building we generally prefer to have more opinions from people so people maybe don't want to see a decentralized production center or maybe people don't want so technically oriented things. Yeah, as Hugo was saying about the existing corporate world cultures so maybe those type of scenarios people want to discuss upon is just that we wanted to do this online activity so we wanted to keep it short. So we did this world-building session. Thruv, can you move forward? Okay, and about seasonal catalytic events we thought that since people are moving around and there will be much more regional festivals, so there will be seasonal clusters like we used to have for every reaping of the crop in rural areas and during rainy season, during autumn. So we thought that okay, Yakeran, please, do you want to say something? No, I just said I found an interesting book a while ago. It's called Astoral Capitalism and it's actually a very funny book because while this current discussion is about how you can finally leave the city and move back to your village or your suburbs or what not this book is documentation of how companies have done this for the entire of the past century and it's essentially a book of pictures of workspaces set in rural landscapes. So I thought it was a funny contrast to throw in and say that I think like this but so are companies. And that's what like and it will be very grateful of you if you could share the book name with us we would like to go through them and as you said, we would prefer such sort of situation where it's not a centralized hub or some thing some people call a Parisian desert. So, Dhruv, moving on. Okay, yeah and about the post-corona thing we thought that we want to be a little hopeful of the healthcare system in India so we thought that okay post-corona there may be more outbreaks coming towards us but due to this situation we will be more prepared for healthcare outbreaks so we will be more sensitized we will know when we'll start using masks or how to keep distance from people. So going through all these trends we were projecting a world in 2030. Dhruv, so about that world there is just one thing we figured that we want to bring to the conversation is that India in 2030 would be a world which is like work from anywhere since there will be very less cohesion among the libraries of working in a center or a city and people are moving outside production systems are outside festivals are happening in different locations so we wanted to imagine this world like okay in 2030 how it will be you don't want to move to maybe Delhi or Mumbai or maybe you want to just you know like 2-3 years you want to work in some the other we can move to those inspiration or visuals so these are few of the inspirations or triggers we wanted to bring to the discussion or some things like Eco-DC in the center the XR headset so since with Geo glasses came we are thinking that okay it will be so cheap just like R40 now or even smartphones so everybody would be having such devices and maybe we will be working in scenarios like Martian topology like maybe you are talking to somebody in Mars and having meetings with them or maybe just a virtual vision of the Mars and as you can see there are vertical buildings so you know you are living these tall structures or it can be just farms so you go to these vertical buildings get your food and you come back to your home for the next meeting I'd say and we will have some things like these huge what do you say, sculptural form of art and custom craft meetings or festivals in different different regions so each region can bring their own peculiarities and quirks to these festivals and you know that could become more dynamic culture in India and other than that we might be even having such cars which are like pods where we are just travelling with everything you know like right now we have caravans but maybe this is how we would like to travel maybe after college students don't have to just go block trotting using a backpack they take this car or rent this car and then they can be moving ahead with this so moving from those triggers we want to open a discussion of you know if you are in that type of future what type of conversations are going to happen like what you think will be will occur during India in 2030 so I think we will start with activity too am I audible? yeah yeah you are audible there was something wrong with my microphone for a while I would just like to go through all these I would like to explain each and every trigger that we have picked up so this particular visual I think you can see a black box right now this particular trigger is an actual place I forgot the name of the town so this is in India it's in Himalayas and this is a structure that is often leased by companies like Kiran also pointed out that they do some residential workshops where people come and they collaborate and they work and it's a work from whom sort of a centered place designed within a very natural surrounding and this is a Sony headset I think Sony XR headset launched a few I think last year this was happening so XR technology becomes a trigger and so this engage a social meetup happened with a backdrop of a virtual backdrop of Mars so they did a corporate event sort of a thing on a virtual location of Mars and enabled through various technologies like we are and we had a similar thing very close to home also where Ambika and Draft an entity organized algorithm or were a part of algorithm I do not know the details I'm sorry so that in that particular event the backdrop was moon so this kind of a world augmentation is already happening in the VR space where people are saying ok we might as well just feel that we are in a different world altogether if we are working from anywhere or we are functioning from anywhere or attending an event from anywhere so that becomes very interesting things and some universities are also applying for this although I'm not too sure of how good teaching would be in a VR environment but then yeah experiments are happening where classes are happening in a VR environment and this is very interesting this is an airstream 2018 trailer and why I picked this is because we want to specify on some things like mobility that a certain space that you can carry around would can that become a trend and we would want that to happen but then it is open to interpretation in what forms it happened this is a very American idea of a caravan or a moving space this is the school proposed school in Pune that we were talking about earlier so this is called the forest school and they have a cycling track so this is designed by a studio called Mudes it's a very interesting studio you should look at their work and what the design it's a very interesting building trend that I thought that can be documented for this particular exercise and this is the Burning Man Festival famous and infamous for all its things but then the beautiful thing I like about Burning Man is that they always construct something so it's like a social gathering of sorts in the middle of nowhere and they make these awesome things and then they discard them completely so that's also a cultural thing that Kravind was also talking about that maybe social gatherings would dial down to certain events happening at certain point of time which is also a very Indian thing if you look at cultures of Pongvalonam which are directly related with the times of harvest so what are the new forms of celebration now what are the new causes of celebration now so that can be a very interesting thing to ponder upon and moving on so you can come back to this slide again we will just share the link because this has these triggers of sorts for the next exercise and you can bring in your own triggers also and these are very easily recallable triggers and so the next exercise we again go to Meero Gold and what we do is let's just get there and explain if you guys can come back to Meero there is this panel called Activity 2 this is kind of a prompt statement that we thought that this could be a statement that we can fill as a group and like each one can fill their own statements and so what we are trying to emulate here is a conversation that you are doing with a person in the year 2030 and while working from somewhere so what the idea of this exercise is very important I think to explain first is that whenever we we look of producing things from timelines that are not the present so these artifacts so usually moving away from tangible things like products etc becomes helpful because this becomes a more inclusive way of everyone can design a conversation we think and so a conversation from that future becomes interesting artifact to have today so if you can just quickly come here so what we are essentially talking about is we want you to have I'll just unlock this but please do not change the statement right now we'll just quickly unlock the things and you guys can unlock yourself also there is a lock button so let's say it's a conversation about something with someone someone can be an individual person or it can be a group of people while working from somewhere so I think this becomes a little more explanatory so these three blanks you have to kind of imagine and fill so these are the cards right here if we move a little bit so conversations about something conversations about last night's party with a colleague while working from guys sorry just to interrupt guys the board for activity two is on the right so when you join the board if you move your mirror board by clicking your space or pan it towards the right you could see the activity I'll create a link from there okay group please so this is the activity board one this is activity board two so these are kind of the cards that we have these are two formats of cards very easy so this is a group chat we have taken the format of a chat because it becomes more relatable and Praveen I think we should lock the background I've locked it so that it doesn't move you guys these cards and we would not want to give an example conversations because we think it might just set the tone a little bit and what you can look at is these some triggers that we have put in the bottom these belong to all the three categories somewhere someone in some thing so you guys can start just constructing conversations we'll also join in this activity and you can just see how we are going about it and you can just try your hands at it and people who are not I'm just copying different formats so if you want to have a group format I'm placing it in the last row Zoom chat as well I'm placing the statement so it's very easy you guys can if you're not able to access Miro for some reason you can just start filling it in the chat so I'll just put in the statement and you can I'll just put in an example as well in the chat and it can become a exemplar for both of the things alright you can do that you guys can also take the mic and speak up if you have anything that you want to say you can copy the cards hi Anisha sorry I've never used Miro before so can you just take me through it like so I just have to copy paste these panels and then add my conversations yeah so here is a small interesting thing some of you might be having some irritating trouble with the mouse also just go to this panel which says this settings panel right here and there's a navigation mode so you can switch to a mouse or a trackpad depending upon the thing you're on so that helps you navigate more naturally instinctively sorry can you show me again you go to the settings thing and then there's an option called navigation mode you can choose between a trackpad or a mouse let's say I'm working with a mouse right now so I'm on this arrow and I want to copy this card so I can just press shift hold shift like this and I can just control C and control V and I'll have a copy of it and you can just edit it like double clicking on the text and it becomes normal text field you can start writing and within these shapes also if you double click on the shapes it becomes a text field so you can just start writing anything okay thank you we're having in 2030 so that has to be kept in mind try to extrapolate and try to leap a little bit it's really a good it can help you if you start thinking about these things first or the three things that what is that something that you're talking about so what will be things that you would be talking about so I'm looking at let's say crafts or anything which are close to me let's have you talking about so these words down are like triggers right you can pick from these or you can just add your own also it's really not you can interpret 2030 in a very different way but a sense of the world that we have preferred would be nice so that remains like a cohesive exercise okay and if you guys want to increase the text size when you click on the box to double click on the box to write you'll see there is something on the top there's a control box these are one size that is getting hard to read if anybody has done with their sheet and would like to discuss then we could discuss that here while I think you guys can add more chat boxes to the conversation you can extend the back I've longed the yellow background thing for it's open now it doesn't move around much we'll have another 3-5 minutes to this then we'll leave it for the group just a suggestion that your conversation should be a little descriptive about all the 3 things that we're talking about what are the people that you're engaging in conversation what is it that you're talking about a very generic acquaintance kind of conversation would not kind of do the trick of really getting your heads out and you guys can really just very imaginative leaps it's not a predictive exercise that what you might become in 2030 and what you might be doing it's also a sort of an aspirational exercise where you can put in your own assertions that I want this to happen I want a certain kind of people to work with obvious growth from your present thing you can really choose an alternative reality of sorts also you can choose a very different professional workplace which you're not associating with right now you can step into other shoes also that is also very fun on size of 36 to 40 might be readable for everyone on this particular size otherwise we can also moderate it I think we can try to wrap it up there a little bit if anybody wants to share their story like what their vision is that would be great or else I could start with mine which is generally very weird so somebody wants to go first or Praveen you would like to start it off anybody wants to go first with their vision even if what you are thinking is important so I have something like that the conversation is about laundry with a colleague while working I would like to add one more thing that if you look at this place here on mirror if you can follow my screen it is plus 11 kind of thing you and there are 11 more click on it and if I find Praveen here so I can just click on Praveen's name and my screen would automatically follow what Praveen has seen right now so this is kind of like Figma people have that experience before on Figma so you can find it here as well so it is something like what they are discussing about laundry service so one person is talking about that the boss is picking up on why the dress is so dirty and they are having problem with the laundry because they didn't use a detergent there and then the other friend is in Shillong somewhere and she is talking about mist every time they are on a video call with the power so it goes to something in the sense that the first person tells about maybe I have to shift to the local organic disposable leaf dresses so this is a imagination I am taking a leaf here that maybe there is something called a leaf dress so the other person asks this like what is the leaf dress and I imagine that it is something which you make by sticking leaves in a geometric pattern which makes it strong and easy to wear and then the other person gets curious and they also want to order something for them in their own location so in my future maybe there is a conversation happening about fashion at some weird location at a tree top restaurant using the leaves of the tree it is called dresses anybody would like to go next? I can give a shot at it sorry like I was halfway on my mobile and now I am on my computer so there with me I missed some bits of it before going through it I picked the topic of activism with children while working from a coffee house so this is I am imagining down the years it is like representatives are kind of worshipped like idols and people have their idols in their shrines at home and so I am asking like what do you think is the best way to convince the representative and one of the child represents given that he is the most popular among his followers and most people have his idol in their shrine so the reply comes in as like true knowing that he has a following it definitely makes it hard to change his mind because now you would know that you have a major support so just going with like more like a tribal mindset as one of the kids is like I would say we should start with a sacrifice that might convince him like that we are on the side to get them attention so the other person another child says that we are giving it to their methods by doing this they have like their own morality is kind of coming into place and then lastly the other person who suggested that idea say like when you have a representative like that that is the only way to get their attention so yeah pretty wild kind of thing so this is kind of I went into the projection of something like cloud atlas they had this thing about one of their activists becoming a religious god kind of a thing down the decades just because they had fought for their independence and it on brought like a tribal kind of a society where the extremely rich had abandoned the planet whereas those who were left behind were living in a tribal kind of a city thanks so much very interesting can we have like a one or more two more people discussing their things since we are like way past our time yeah we can I can if other people would like to go then yeah it would be better because we have been are you just wants to go are you sure you can yes you are okay so okay this idea comes from this movie her where this character plays this game in his apartment so my idea is based on that so I've been you know following this new technology PS5 is bringing so this is a conversation happening on new mediums of entertainment with a friend or colleague who's also a fellow gamer and I'm sitting in my apartment so I'm just telling him about this new VR headset that PS5 is bringing and how it is so much immersive in this narration is a game from 2010 which was Alan Way so what I remember from this game that the levels in the stages were so dream like sequence and everything and I only wished if I was that character so how would I experience so I was sharing this conversation with my friend and that the guys the developers they have this idea only and they are trying to deliver that experience when we were playing through character we were making him go through all those stages and everything through you know places deep in the woods or you know some kind of fantastical place now how is it like when you are so much immersed in that kind of place and you are getting to have that experience so yeah that's my thing that's very cool Ayush and like you are having to become a natural artificial person alright I saw Anisha at least and Anisha are you here on the screen yeah yeah I'm there who is going who is talking sorry you can talk Anisha okay let me find my somehow I didn't thought about technology as such but I was thinking around the terms of like you know building houses and studios around your work and nature so like you are building if there is a tree then you are not sort of cutting out the tree but you know you are making the tree as a part of the house or the studio and I don't know if I am in the right track here but this is what I thought of 2030 and even like there are a lot of biotechs that's coming so if you can use that to build a space around nature I mean I have to think about what are the ideas that can be used this is more like with nature of sorts that you respect the nature structures also and you build kind of in adherence to it yeah yeah that's very interesting this is like a conversation with family while working on a home base studio so the person is like arguing the point of building with nature yeah I think we will take one more and after that I think we will wrap up the board will be open so you guys can add your conversations or change the conversations yes Pranjil please Pranjil and Praveen can you hear me? yes Pranjil I modeled it around so I am assuming that technology is digitization is on a level in India but most of the local bodies are connected so I am talking to a virtual assistant city so I am talking about a new recruit living in a mountain cottage so maybe I am running a cafe so the conversation is like I am asking that city have you completed the background check so since all the local bodies are connected they are digitized so city is able to send his or her information and get the background check then I am asking if there are any comments from municipality or the police and so they are able to confirm so my idea is that if we are able to take the infrastructure or the technology to the tier 2 or the rural areas we will be able to accomplish at least from IT that is the point of view that we only have the pressure in the mega cities because we don't have the infrastructure in the rural areas or the outskirts once that is there then virtual assistant and everything is there as well right this kind of also an agreement with what point that was raised earlier that you in like what U.S. has in the U.S. have low cost rural area setting and they have like brought because of this happening there is a lot of power development being happening in the rural sector as well although like it is debatable how much of a development it is but then yes rural is becoming empowered because of companies moving in that is for sure I think we should wrap up now yeah what are you saying Praveen yeah I think we should wrap up because we are like way over the time if anyone else doesn't want to go then I will just go through my or you can just read it here I am not okay here it is so I kind of chose a very obvious thing from the triggers which is that the last office of a company is being shut down and this is a conversation that my future self is happening is having with my coworkers while I am on the back of my friends scooter because I can really work from my cell phone as well so I imagine the device that how would back of my friends act ever would become a functional space if not exactly functional so I just thought of an isolation helmet that you can just wear if you are anywhere for zoom meetings and it just isolates your own scenario this I picked it up from Getsmart movie they had an isolation cone so someone is saying can you dial down your environment noise so someone else is saying yeah I just wear my helmet so the person is saying no so I am saying that the agenda is that we need to collect our stuff from our cubicles because the office is closing and what to do so the person says let's go day after and I say that okay I will set up an appointment with the security which I kind of want to hint at that you cannot just no longer walk into office spaces again you need to like really have a reason to go to those establishments while they are on the verge of closing so yeah cool so we can like wrap it up unless we have something happening in the chart okay cool so we can wrap it up now and this board is open for any kind of addition if you want to use this thing somewhere you can just use it try your own little activities or if you have suggestions on this they are most welcome this was the first time that we did an activity where we are talking about conversations and cultures in this particular format so this is a new format for us so you can give any of your feedbacks what worked for you what didn't work for you and we can take that into account the next time we come up with a workshop and thank you guys I would like to thank Hasgeek and Ambika and Andhraki as I have heard because they fostered this conversation and the really amazing people you should just look at all of their work yeah and you can look at our Instagram at A4achar we have a new handle right now we have just created an identity and we are planning to put on more content there as we along we are working on our website also so we just wanted to be like a good one so we are not giving any sneak peeks or like just we are taking our time with it so for now Instagram would be a good place to look at the work that we are doing and sharing so if you have some feedbacks you can mail to us at A4achar at gmail.com and Praveen would like to say something yeah like guys please message us or mail us what we want to think about the session and what you maybe have in mind to initiate the conversation and maybe if you are wondering what we will do with these conversations we haven't thought particularly of an artifact it's just that there was this discussion with me and I was suggesting that maybe there will be an xi app for this because I can make it maybe so you could have these conversations there just for having fun and if you guys would like to access this video or even these contents later on you guys can go to askit.com to our page and find these videos and the chat and that will be all. 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