 So, Doctor Who Community Show, take one. There we go. First take, first try. So, hello, I am Jalak Pleaves. Oh, damn it! So, hello, Daniel. Hello, Jack, a long time viewer, first time... ...guest. We're really nailing it. We're too long. Well, it's a pleasure to have you here, Daniel. You are now the third Dynamic Works Doctor that I've managed to get on. So, I'm closing in on the whole set. Yes, just Connor next. Connor next. He's next. Watch out. Right, well, let's... Just before we get started, when I joined, I forgot about this whiteboard behind me, because I was filming an announcement for something, like, a big thing that's about to happen. And I nearly just had that on full display, just in the background. So, you can't do that. You can't tell me there's something big happening and not tell me what it is. You can't do this to me, man. All right, tell you what, I'm going to cut this out of the show and read it to many people. Maybe, although, then again, the announcement might be out by the time. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I may not be Jalak, so question me. It's fine. I'm in shorts, so that's all good. You know what this logo is? I am very aware what that logo is, yes. I will be hosting Doctor Who the Community show, live at Comic-Con. Oh, my God. Oh, no. I can't... That's awesome. That's awesome, man. That is insane. It's one of very few people that know, so... I'm honored to know. I'm honored to be on the show. It's a big day. Big day. Big, big day. I wish I could be there, but the Irish sea parks us, unfortunately. Yes, unfortunately, sir. Well, we'll just have to build a very big and impractical bridge just to get you over here. There's no way you could fly. It has to be a bridge. It has to be a bridge. I demand a bridge be built so I could attend. A sense of the world of Comic-Con. And I'm the only one who's allowed to use a bridge. That's a must. I'm the only person that can use it. We'll write that in the visa. It's fine. Visa? Anyway. Right, before I go on in a million tangents, which just kind of happens, let's get on to the first question. And really, it should be obvious. It's why we're talking. You have a brand-new trailer out for Dimensions of the Daleks. Can you tell me a little bit about it? Well, Dimension of the Daleks is a dimension where there is Daleks. We're getting some insight here. The actual, like some nonsense about the episode is that Dr. Maggie decided to travel into the multiverse because we teased it in the very first episode. And ever since then, people were like, oh, when are you going to actually do the multiverse? You said there, that's like a check-offs gone, waiting on fire. And I'm like, okay, do the first episode in my new series. So obviously, they don't go to a very good dimension They don't seem like a good one. No, check-offs gone should have fired in a different direction by the sounds of this. I'm like, the audience asked for this. You did this. Now I just imagine all your comments just reading, take the shot, take the shot. It does, yeah. In this dimension, the Daleks have taken over completely, they've taken over time and space in this dimension. And now with the doctor and Maggie there, they also then bump into Maggie's brother in this dimension, who's alive, which he wasn't in their dimension. And now she's sort of dealing with a lot of different things like the Daleks were responsible, were the reason why her brother died in her dimension. And now she's facing Daleks. She just needs to face her brother again. It's a lot of things going on for the companion, and not so much me to be honest. Is that a conscious choice to focus more on the companions than the doctor himself? I was writing it, I was trying like, I should really try and fit in some doctor scenes here, but I'm just enjoying writing for the characters so much. I'm like, I do write bits in. There are a couple of noteworthy scenes I have of my doctor but I'm too spoilery to talk about. This is Luke, Meg and Dom all over again. Whenever I'd ask a Meg a question, it's always like, oh, that's a series five thing. Can't tell you. I'm like, oh, well, thanks. Sorry. We're very secretive, but dynamic works and fresh timeline. It's just, it's all very hush-hush. We like to keep secrets here. Of course. Well, that as the guy interviewing you, I can, I appreciate that. Thank you. But again, I immediately opened this call with a big spoiler. So really, I can't talk at all. I can't keep a secret. You're like, wow. I wish I could tell. I wish I could, but at the same time, it was like, and the whole thing gets like... Yes, that's fair. So you heard it here first. The doctor dies in this fan film and that's it, the end. I can confirm. Right. So on the same lines, how does it feel to be currently the only Irish doctor? Currently. It's bound to happen one day. It's bound to happen one day. Hopefully one day, hopefully. You carry the legacy. RPG, if you are listening to this, come on. Let's get some Irish representation in the show. That Irish broad church in the time as children does not count. I have forgotten about him. Yeah, I guess. No, it doesn't count. No, no. What am I talking about? Of course that doesn't count. That was all hallucination. So there's been no Irish. And that was all a fake thing to hide the truth. But it feels good. We're currently trying to add more culture, into our series, into our show. Because we didn't really do much of that in our first series. So we're trying our best now to pump a bit more Irish into Doctor Who. Not so much that it forgets us through it, but at the same time, just so it's representing who we are and what we are making it. No, that does make sense. I suppose the Irish doctor tagline, or the nickname you have, was always just kind of, oh, yes, the accent. That was about it. So yeah, it does make sense to add more heritage. I guess it's the word. Heritage culture. All right, talk to my microphone. I'm sure that's good for the audio. Yeah, it's just we, everyone started calling me now as Doctor Purely because, well, my voice. Oh, did that not, did the nickname not come from you? It just came from people. It's been, oh, you're Irish. Everyone just, just like, I think, I don't even remember where it started. Like everyone's done, started calling Luke the little red one. And then they started calling another one the blonde. And I'm like, oh, you're going to call me? Where you going to call me? You're going to call me the trilby? The, it's like, are your Irish aren't you? He's like, is that a seriously odd name for being Irish? Well, that's nice, isn't it? You were great. Well, how about this? If you were to give yourself a nickname, what would it be? See, I've sort of, I sort of like Irish too much now to give it up. I don't know what, I don't know what else I would call myself. The best doctor. Just really annoy the other ones. There you go. Give yourself a complex. Or I'll top every single other doctor by having myself the doctor, the, the doctor. Oh, that would be brilliant. Just like, oh, yes, I'm the purple doctor. Who are you? I'm the, the doctor. Yeah, you, yeah, stand back. I am, I'm the one that has to have the double the, because I am the doctor. Oh, yes. So, moving on from that, I'll be honest, whenever I get a guest on, I always instinctively go to their channel, go to their page, click oldest to newest and see what's there. And I was very disappointed to find that it, for fracture timeline at least, it only goes back to 2018. Where's the cringe, Daniel? I live off the cringe. I, I, I purged the, the cringe. I purged the cringe. Where I made the first episode because I knew it was going to get some heat. I didn't want people to discover the cringe. No, for someone like me, I was so looking forward to being on. I will talk video. I will say, if you dig, if you dig for it, you'll find it. It's not private, it's unlisted. So it's somewhere out there. The ship, like, I'm pretty sure you'll be scarred through the internet somewhere, you'll find that's, I'm not going to start giving you hints, but why would I? Well, that's the thing. A little insight into this interview. We arranged to do this interview yesterday. It took us one day. People were like, let's just do it now. We're like, yeah, all right. Because that's how I work. I'm not professional in any way. Look, this is, this is how professional I am. Doing your hair. You couldn't do that beforehand. I did, but I just messed it up because I'm looking at myself in the camera and it's mirrored. So I went to do it the right way as the mirror. So I'm really messy. This is what I do. I want to be as professional as possible, but I know deep down, no, it's not happening. Even if I could try. Well, I, well, do you know, and they were all fans making fan contents. It's always us. We're always one man bands, right? I mean, look, I mean, even Lucas, he's doing for series five. That boy is a credit to his work, to his work. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I've been, I can say this now as, as I was briefly in the first series five trailer that, yeah, pure professionalism as soon as that amazing camera comes out. Oh, have you seen that new camera that he's got? Go on. I have the exact same camera. Oh, that would explain how why good, why the footage looks so good in the trailer. Oh, it's, it's. Yeah, I'm using the record right now. Hello. Oh, is that what you're using? Oh, so you're going to have a really good 4k footage. Oh, no, it's not going to 4k because me trying to transfer 4k footage would be a nightmare, especially for this one. There it is. Oh, there it is. Everybody gawk at that. And you've got the little screen as well. Oh, it's a cheeky you. Really? Well, I suppose I'll turn it around. Here's my little DSLR. Here it is. What, what, what camera is that? You don't know. It's that one. You see that? I have, I have the exact same camera. I'm sorry. I also have the 700D. I still use it from photography. Yeah, it's definitely more of a photography camera, but I only understood that after I received it. So I do have another channel. It's my main download Japan channel. I filmed a lot of short films on it. I'm still very profited. Look today, every camera is a good camera. Yeah, I had a look on that channel as well. There was still not a lot of cringe. I was very mad. I was like, I was getting ready to embarrass. Like I did when I mentioned Luke's old stop motions. I was like, there was nothing. There was nothing. Although I will mention, I don't used to do figure of entries like Luke, but yeah. I closed down. I will do that. I'll trick it. It was our practice. You'll never find those. One day pattern. Right. So moving aside from the fan thumbs, which you are probably safe to say most known for, you are also a graphic designer and a VFX artist. In fact, that's how I first came across you, because you did the art for Venus Flint, episode one, which I was featured in. So what would you say from those two camps? What are something you are the most proud of? So like art wise and VFX wise? Which one has caused me the least amount of sleep? That is the question. I'm very proud of both. I used to be mainly VFX, but now I have really grown into graphic design and digital and digital artwork. There's a lot of done recently, especially for like the original audio stuff that I'm very proud of. I wish I could show off, but that'll come soon. But I don't know. It's very difficult one. You see the thing is with graphic design, it's just like it's just simple drag and do this. And it's like you got to make one frame look good. With VFX, that more frames. A few, yes. 24 to 25, those frames per second. Oh, it's too many. It's too many. I do so love VFX, but I think I've sort of grown more. The graphic designer as time went on, especially over lockdown, when audio just became such a thing and people are seeking a lot of graphic design. Oh, yes. Well, like I know, I appeared in one and I'll show a little image of that, I'm sure, as we met at talk here. Are there any other, well, is there any specific VFX shot you've done in the past where you're like, oh, I smashed it? I'm trying to think about it because there's a lot of shots. I did four series of DW 2012. So I've got a lot of love rummaging to do. Well, definitely two because Luke got rid of the first two. Morty Luke, terrible. I'm going to have to do a tally every time his name gets mentioned. Yeah, I would say, I really don't know. I have to be something from probably the film, the DW 2012 film. The effects shots there are in the DW 2012 film. Yeah. You do want to know how many? There are, there are about between 200 to 300 VFX shots. That's a good couple then. Good couple. I had all been a summer. Oh, God, you poor man. I was like, it was between two years of uni and I had to do that. I'd say, I'd say the film because just because the time that the deadline was very, very strict and I got the most done. Quantity-wise, I'm very proud of that. Quality-wise, I'd say I'm very proud of most things I'm serious for. I have no specific shots in mind. It's just, it's too much to dig up. Well, fair enough. I mean, they are known. The whole DW 2012 franchise is known for looking absolutely incredible and no small part, thanks to your amazing VFX work, are no doubt. Thank you very much. Just to feed your ego. That's what I'm here for. I'm here to build you up and then smash you back down at a later date. That's, that's the community show guarantee. And yet you couldn't find the cringe? I couldn't. I'm still mad. Anyway, well, Monday. Monday. Right. So my final question before a cheeky little quiz at the end just to really, really bug you in some way. Although I bet you get an early answer anyway. Right, so how did you become part of the timeline anyway? But how did that start? That's a long story and a half. It was a foggy Tuesday night in July and I simply opened up my laptop. I asked Luke. I was so ready to settle in. I was ready. I got a nice warm cup of tea. Just ready for a nice story. Just asked him, is that easy? I mean, it was, he was making the 50th anniversary special. He was saying, I got all these doctors in and I was like, could you let me in? And he's like, sure, why not? I'm pretty sure he rewritten the thing. And I was like, I was just like being that pesky friend. He's like, come on, put me in. Put me in as well. Put me in. Come on. Did you know it before though? Did you already have a friendship? Yes, we had a friendship. We sort of just started talking about, we counted on each other's videos and we were doing like the actual Bigger Avengers stuff. Again, good luck trying to find. Well, I will. But we counted on that. We were collaborating on that. Sometimes like we were doing voices for each other's stuff. And then he told me he was doing a live action series. I said, would you need help with the effects and all that? And that's how we're doing a dark, dark laugh. You didn't know what you signed up for? I did not know what I'm signing up for. Five series onwards and two remastered seasons. I'm pretty sure he's thinking of re-joining series three and four. I don't know if he's being that. That's not complicated. But knowing Luke, those cards are positing on the table. He's a silly boy that Luke. He doesn't understand what he's doing. Silly, Lou. Not him. Not him. Right, so here's a quiz. And I did the same with your fellow doctors. And I'll be honest, they smashed it. So we'll see how this goes. I have in this phone an image that shows the timeline of doctors from the W2012, including the era gaps. Just the era gap. I don't know why I had to do the quotations. They're pretty self-explanatory. So from start to finish, I'd like you. To name all the doctors in order, including the era gaps. Is that something you are willing to do? Yes. And also, Jack, just to let you know, I created an image. God, you did! Be fair, I made it two years ago. So I might have forgotten. Okay. I think I'm so clever. I think this is what happens when I plan an interview a day after. God, all right, let's do it. Go on, let's smash it. Let's do this. Okay, God, I'm my mind's drawing a blank already. Yes! We have the young doctor. No. Oh, no, sorry. We have the northern doctor, the young doctor, the era gap, the blonde doctor, the little red doctor, the purple doctor, era gap, a gap, the lost doctor, the Irish doctor, era gap, and the gravat doctor. Drops the mic. The mic can indeed be dropped. So you absolutely smashed it. Well done, Daniel J. Patton, who made the image I'm literally using for reference. I'm an idiot. You can say it. God's sake. Oh, well, I'm not surprised. Why did I think that was going to be a hard question? God damn it. Right, well, this interview has gone relatively quick. So I'm going to add just a little question on the top. Just a little spice. A little bit of spice to it. This is me after a full day of work at 8 o'clock in the evening trying to figure this out just for, again, for reference. For reference. Ah, my other microphone. This is what happens when I do that. Anyway, so this is more of a more of a normie Doctor Who question, not one I'd usually ask, but obviously you mentioned the RTD news. What are your general thoughts on that? Oh, man, I think it's Connor Chadwick was the one who mentioned it to me. The thing is that we usually play jokes on each other. I thought, okay, what's this? What sort of prank are you doing here? What mockery is this? You know how I feel about this. Don't play jokes on me, Connor. I know what you're like. I'm like, it's not a joke. I was like, okay, so I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go on Twitter. I'm going to go on Twitter. I'm like, I'm going to Google Doctor Who. And I'm going to say, oh, my sweet, blessed Jesus. And that was, and I nearly cried. I nearly cried. I called on, yeah. I called on the excitement that I couldn't even speak. I was like, the poor girl, the poor girl, the poor girl was having a panic attack. That's always a quote. See, that's slightly similar to my reaction, funnily enough. So I was just caught home from work. I checked my phone and I see the official tweet. I thought it was a prank as well. After a while, I started to realize, oh no, this is real. So I looked over at my girlfriend who was just over there and I went, oh, look, Russell T. Davis is coming back. And she went, who? And at that point, I decided we were going to get a divorce. A medium. Yes. I was like, no girlfriend of mine. It's not no any RTD. It's tap, tap. It's not on. Just put a jibber on last, though. She'll love that. Yeah. But she was very excited. And thankfully, yeah, my blessed, better half does know of RTD. And she is very, what happened to my voice just there? Oh no. So you just go through puberty live on the screen. Oh no. I'm here. I was redubbed the entirety of the dimension of dogs because of this knife. That was your new manly man voice. So I'm very excited about RTD comeback. It's news that's really made me excited. I wasn't against this current era, Dr. Who. Like I'm not a fan of the current era, but at the same time, I don't think there's anything wrong with it, to be honest. I love Jodi. I think she's amazing. Like she has seen what she said recently. Like you've seen the BBC News where she was talking to the new presenter, CBBs. Oh yes, I did see that. Yeah, that was adorable. She's a treasure. She really is. Yeah, some of the fan engagement this era has brought out has been top notch. Although I do wish there was more. There should be more stuff like that. They had a perfect opportunity with lockdown to get a bunch of those videos out. There was one. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, I'm very excited to say at least. I'm very excited. I'm very excited to see series 14 as well, whenever that comes around. Gone Hose. Yeah, whenever. Probably this month. Probably. Or really? Probably. People are saying October. People are saying October, but at the same time, just like there's nothing on it. Yeah. Anyway, welcome back to two white men talk about Jodie Whittaker-Zera. I see this going very well, as everything online is always PG clean. Very honest. Exactly, yeah. Let's just say it's, there is an amazing doctor. But really, we have here the only true doctor, as previously discussed, General Jay Patton. He is the the doctor. The the doctor. That's what I should have called. No, I shall change the timeline once this interview is over. And you'll see I'm now the the doctor. I guarantee you some like 12 year old starting fan films is going to hear that and go, that's actually a really good idea. I'm going to chop that down. And of course, I did an April Fool's prank that had heavily backfired on me. Please tell. I mentioned, I did a thing on Twitter saying that I am changing my name from the Irish doctor because somebody said, oh, isn't that like culturally insensitive? Because because because you're saying like, oh, you're the you're the Irish doctor. And I was like, but I am Irish. So I took that joke. I took that that one comment and I spanned into a joke that heavily backfired on me. I didn't start. I said to everyone, I'm no longer called the Irish doctor. I shall be called the green Trilby doctor. No one, no one, no one decided to look on the dates when I made that. Oh, no. And I even had people from DW 2012 asking, wait, are you serious? And then they began to retitle all of the stuff in the Irish doctor to the video. And I was like, no, no, no. I put the green Trilby doctor purely because it was the worst signing I could possibly pick. That's so funny. There's the cringe. Yay, I found it. That was my character for this interview. I did it. Well, I think I think we can wrap it up there. And thank you so much for coming on such short notice. Thank you for your support of the show. As you said, you're a viewer. I'll just blindly believe you. I am a viewer. I am. I remember in one episode, I can't remember. It was like the one where you had Luke Dom and Meg on the show and they were discussing who's the owner owns the TARDIS. I'm like, technically I'm the first one along who has that TARDIS. So we'll leave that conversation there then. Also, I really, I'm not going to put this in the episode. I'll probably get in trouble. But I thought you said Luke Dom and Meg. And I was thought we were about to have a very different conversation. Oh, no, definitely not. But that's just how my mind works. We can impeach you clean. We can impeach you clean. We can impeach you clean. We can impeach you clean. Jesus. Right. Well, yes. Thank you for coming on. It's been a pleasure. And hopefully my footage was usable because I noticed I kept doing this and that puts me out of frame. It's fine. I'm pretty sure it's fine. Oh, good. It was an absolute pleasure being on the show. Jenny, great work with the show, man. Been loving it so far. I've been killing it. Can't wait to see what else you do. Can't wait for the announcement. Oh, yes. I filmed the announcement video. I'm just, I emailed the person who's, OK, I'm going to be vague here just so I can include it. I emailed the person that I am going back and forth with to make it happen. And they were being very helpful. A lot of questions being answered. But the one I put out saying, oh, when can I release this? Nothing yet. They haven't told me. So I'm like, I just have to wait, I guess. I wait. It's very exciting. Very exciting. It is. It is. Very tough for you, man. But anyways, it is, it is getting late. I will let you be free to your world. And I'm sure the robot lady was going to tell us that the recording had...