 start. Let's pray. Father we thank you. Father God we thank you that we have you as our Heavenly Father. We thank you Lord that Lord you look at us and you value us and you Lord give us purpose. Lord you give us meaning and the Father God we thank you that we can use the same yardstick or God the same same measurement of Father God Lord when we evaluate our lives Father God and we know that that is the most accurate one and so God we choose to do that Lord and help us to have those eyes Father God even right now. Help us to have those eyes Father God. Help us to have that same kind of thinking oh God I pray that you we will renew our thinking to yours Father God. Yes Master even right now as we pray Father God Lord sometimes we are in that we are in that cycle of negative thinking we are in that cycle of Lord thoughts of unbelief and patterns of unbelief. Father God I pray that that will change. Master we pray that even as we eat even as we expose ourselves to your presence even as we expose ourselves to the truth of your word God I pray that that will change that will change your Father God and that will change dramatically and I just pray right now for those things that are so ingrained in us or those thought patterns that are so ingrained in us and I just pray in the name of Jesus let it be uprooted right now let it be uprooted right now whatever is causing those thought patterns to be there what is causing those cycles to to stick in our minds I just pray right now that you've lost your power I just declare right now that you have no right you've lost your power and whatever is energizing that in the name of Jesus we break it in the name of Jesus we break that chain in the name of Jesus we break that cycle of shame and defeat in the name of Jesus we break it we speak right now that we are set free we are liberated we are deemed we are raised and we are seated with Christ in the heavenly places hallelujah we thank you Lord we thank you that you've called us oh God and you've given us purpose Father God and what a joy it is Lord to be co-heirs with Christ we seated in the heavenly places Father God we thank you we thank you for the Holy Spirit to dwells in us we thank you that you lead us into all that you have for us you lead us and you show us oh God all the good things Father God all the things that have been freely given to us in Christ and Lord Holy Spirit God Holy Spirit we thank you that you continue to reveal these to us and maybe be so diligent and careful to hold on to these things and walk in them Lord every truth that you reveal Lord we pray that we will walk in it oh God we thank you we give you all the praise and all the glory in Jesus name we pray amen okay awesome let's let's continue from where we stopped last last week last class okay we were looking at sermon construction and we finished that right we finished the mechanics of sermon construction okay now how many of us 1 2 3 15 plus 4 20 of us are here oh no actually 18 plus 20 23 of us 24 one more person joining so the thing is I see that the sermon topic is not really filled up okay there are only 18 and I have I see 23 of us in class so so what I thought was that we just go to that page right now I'm going to just present that and let's let's finish it before we go further okay okay can everyone see this okay it's gonna take okay so there it is okay it's Felix there Felix are you there Felix if you are there if you can just put it on the chat also I'm just gonna ask a few questions about your sermon topic so the view of heaven so Felix can you just explain to us you know what exactly you have in mind is Felix there okay I'm not able to see the entire you know everyone okay okay let's move on okay Tarun is there Tarun you're going to speak on hearing from God and so have you decided on a title sermon title I will add pastor I'm just thinking and you're thinking about it okay okay okay okay Abhishek has got the sermon topic love of God there's one more which is similar to that which is God's love by Abraham okay number 14 so I just hope that both of you gentlemen are sharing on different facets of the love of God okay so what will help is a sermon title so Abhishek if you can let us know what is the sermon title please if you actually pastor yeah I didn't think about the title but I will later will put it there because if you do that then it will also help Abraham and also help you I'm yeah okay okay that's Abhishek yeah okay fine that's good okay Subajit word of God the voice of his word is the title okay fine it's rose in class rose yeah hi morning rose so you've got the humility of a servant king as a sermon so would you have a sermon title also ready I'm playing around titles pastor so I'll fill it in later okay okay because that'll also give clarity and direction to your message so that's why yeah okay so Beth Beth is in class but thank you for sharing that praise God you've got the sermon topic as peace and faith okay so the sermon title is how is faith connected with peace okay so that's that's nice how is faith like a question and I guess it's for congregation that is just primarily Christian right like one way of making it creative would be you know I'm just typing it here next to your title oops would also be to and I'll just put it here you know faith put it like this visually faith plus peace equals you know something like this formula right and I know you can't always like say it out but faithless off you know or you can just call it you know some formula and then put it like this so this is also you know very intriguing of course you always want to you want to talk about this or any other way right so just a thought there okay okay so Charles yeah Charles so your your message is about bearing fruit being fruitful and so your title is which fruit or what fruit are you bearing is it okay so yeah you're satisfied with the title Charles confused don't know the difference between title and the and topic it's like now thinking now which fruit are you bearing is the topic and then the title the other way I was I'm not yet certain and what to press under which so I still need your help faster okay sure yeah so sermon topic bearing fruit I guess you're going to talk about productivity being fruitful in life in general you know you could take all those approaches or being specific you know being fruitful in ministry you know something like that or it could be you know generally being fruitful and how God God's will is for us to be fruitful and for us to thrive and what goes into that etc and so the sermon title can be you know accordingly you know you modified so which fruit are you bearing is very very specific right it says you know what kind of you know what does the end result of your life so you can you could work on that you could you know modify it make it a little more creative so that the listener or the one who sees it you know is curious enough to click on it or curious enough to want to you know hear that message so yeah you can yeah you can work on that but bearing fruit if it's if it's something that you want to go with that's absolutely good that's absolutely fine okay so Sam Sam is a Christians non-conforming lifestyle so so I guess you're talking about a consecrated life so set apart is a sermon title okay fine set apart is okay that's good that's a good title by itself but you want to make it even more you know this thing you can a little more impactful set apart is good by itself but you can you know you choose to improve on it you can Dinesh is pinnacle of faith okay so pinnacle of faith so I guess the sermon topic is faith right you're talking about faith and about reaching you know growing in faith or reaching some you know somewhere in faith is that what it is the pinnacle of faith some fun title with this pinnacle of faith interchange okay fine fine okay so so this is pinnacle of faith is the sermon title okay add that in there so so here you're going to talk about the connection between prayer so can you just explain that what is the content of the sermon please so protocol prayer is based on prayer once do prayer please again believe and hope and faith things are connected with prayer belief wants to prayer is not enough okay thanks thanks I got it I got it so prayer the connection between faith hope and prayer so I was just a little confused between you know believe and faith because that is you know to have be one and the same right to believe and to have faith okay so yeah I got it so that's fine thanks thank you Dinesh so that's good so Prabhakar is presenting ourselves as a wholesome sacrifice to God so again a message on like setting apart or consecrating ourselves right and then ideal sacrifice or ideal sacrifice okay okay that's that's a play on words nice okay right Prabhakar that's good Rupa is yeah Rupa I just want to talk to you about that precious ornament to be worn and the title is which is precious in God's sight so what what exactly do you want to talk about Rupa sir yeah I wanted to highlight first Peter third chapter okay okay so God also like the holy women also trusted in God who also adorned themselves being submissive to the owners okay the right word sir one second okay I think three I think it's three onwards three to five yes yes yes okay let your adornment be do not let your adornment be okay okay okay so the sermon topic is about the beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit okay yes so I'll just change it that the beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit right and so sermon title you can make it you know precious jewel or something like that yeah precious jewel yeah something yeah on those lines right okay so I'll leave it to you change it yeah yeah sure sir thank you okay okay so Maggie is talking about the holiness of God and can be holy as I am holy okay so that's yeah that's nice crazy the importance of prayer in our lives and the power of prayer okay so Abraham is Abraham are you in class yeah so yeah Abraham so you're talking about God's love and I think Abhishek is also talking about the love of God so do you have a title in mind so we know what direction you're taking I don't really know the difference between the the sermon topic and a title but the idea I'm trying to convey is um you know sometimes we are told to love people but if we understand the love of God it'll be easy for us to love people so I'm conveying from the God aspect I mean the kind of love that God has bestowed upon us yeah so the very quickly that the topic is the the content of the message and the direction of the you know message the actual content of the message is the topic like everyone has listed you know the holiness of God prayer God's love so that's the that's the content so what you've put down is correct the title is is a little more focused and you know about that particular message you know God's love you can talk about a lot of things right you can talk about sacrificial love you can talk about a lot of things but then here you're talking about loving God and loving people right how it's the the practical aspect of it like how God's love with God's love you need to love did I understand it right is that what you're yes okay yeah so so the title can be something on those lines okay so that's the title of the of the message right so I hope you got that yes so yeah so you can put that down okay so Anita bring the heaven down is Anita here today could you explain to us Anita if you're here bring the heaven down yeah is it on revival is it on outpouring of the spirit let me check this exercising the authority okay okay so so yeah let's so let's put that exercising so oops sizing our authority in God authority as believers okay I'll just put it there so that so bringing bringing heaven down okay so any particular reason for this title is it like the top of Mount Carmel calling down fire is that is that something that is that something that helped you with that title no okay okay okay anyway so that's bringing heaven down bring heaven down right that's what you're saying okay we'll go with that okay next fear of the Lord okay Avni and okay the source of all wisdom right you can also have um you know the place of the start of wisdom or something like that so source of all wisdom is also good or ancient wisdom you know keys one of the keys of ancient wisdom those are all good titles yeah okay healing uh children's bread um subula um so I I guess you're talking about how healing is you know really the portion right is is for the children yes yes question yeah okay so it's part of covenant and it's our right to have healing right um so how healing is so so you can choose the title something on those or healing is the children's bread also is good um uh Kennedy living under the shadow of Jesus and Christ centered life okay um okay I I guess Christ centered life really is a sermon uh topic and uh yeah but I I guess it here it seems to be interchangeable um yeah yeah I mean it is interchangeable you know Christ centered life also can be a sermon topic and a title by itself so yeah fine okay so Maxon yeah Maxon worship um okay so I guess you're I'll just put it as worship and only the living God should be worshiped so you can work on the title okay so you can you know make it like worship who what how you know that can be a title or you know or if you want something a little more traditional and this thing you can you know say um um anyway I think it's coming to my mind right now but you can use you know any other approach also um only the living God should be um or maybe you can say uh and I just just some thoughts here right um worship is for the the only one or one or you know I've heard this phrase used often audience of one to whom the worship who receives worship right so something on those okay so we have 20 here others um please go ahead and fill it up okay because um you you can start preparing okay so um so when we come next class you could you could have a basic outline ready and I can you know so that we can just pick a few from class to just go through the basic outline basic outline would be of course a finalized sermon topic sermon title and then you could have your you know the five main points that you want to talk about okay so the fine five main things that you want to talk about so if it's God's love though you know it it can be like this let's say uh who is it that's writing on sharing on God's love it's Abraham okay so Abraham is talking about God's love so so Abraham could have a sermon title like this okay um what is God's love you know an explanation um and then a second one the difference between God's love and man's love you know unconditional uh conditional performance based love um and maybe you can talk about you know the four different greek words which define love you know store gay heroes phyllo phyllo phyllo and an agape something on those lines third way third one third point you know and on those lines you have about maybe if you want to have three three points three main points or five main points okay so i would say you have five max of five main points okay um that's the maximum and uh three points minimum that okay five points max three points uh the minimum of three points uh anyway i'll put this in the stream and you can prepare for okay what would be a good duration you know let's make it let's make it tough you know uh let's look at another topic okay can you talk about uh i am a christians non-conforming lifestyle in 10 minutes right so we have about 50 minutes in the class so maybe you know we open up with two minutes and then if it's 12 minutes we can we could have four people you know talk about it you know share their message okay let's shall we go with 12 what do you think you can put your hands up if you think 12 is okay uh how many for 10 10 minutes okay 12 sand is put for 12 um how many of you think that 12 is okay okay say 12 okay super j 12 12 is okay decent okay i think most folks are okay 12 okay 12 minutes so okay so that's the duration well this right yeah so even if you want to talk about you know three points we want to share three points you could take uh maybe you know four minutes max for each point or so you have to you know design or write your outline accordingly okay but but what for the next session just be prepared with you finalize your topic you finalize your title you know what what is the scripture that you're going to be you know talking on it could be one scripture or like a textual sermon or it could be a passage or it could be a topical sermon where you know just like how it's just based on the topic and there could be various other scriptures so right okay so so please work on it so we when we meet again we'll we'll meet again on Friday right so we could yeah we could you know I can ask some of you to just read out what you have and and then so it's all leading up to you know um you some of you all of you presenting what you prepared right and which may not happen next class but next class be ready with the outline and we can present you can present it the following class which is on a month on that Monday right okay and we'll kind of evaluate it and see how it goes okay okay so today's class um yeah sam you have a question um just to clarify pastor um so a is in that 12 so you're assigning 12 minutes to each of us yeah to speak so are we delivering us our sermon in 12 minutes or walking you through like for my intro I have this for my outline okay the entire sermon is 12 minutes yeah the entire sermon is 12 minutes next class we'll just discuss about the outline the outline we can take about five minutes to talk about the outline you know so 12 minutes is yeah next class is about sorry like five minutes to each person to explain how we prepared ourselves yes yes so that's I hope that's clear it's 12 minutes so which means you know if you're going to be presenting you know don't take too much time but you know I I thank so and so for the opportunity you know there itself you lose so much time all I don't you know go into praise the lord hallelujah good morning you know just get into uh just say hey nice to see you guys and then just get into the message right okay okay so um any any other questions yeah chris I asked you what is I asked you for you to just go through the dates again where uh with regards to uh when the presentation and when the outline needs to be uh sure advance sure yeah so the outline is uh you know you you have it on the next class it's on 24th okay so you have the outline ready so this this is just the outline or the main points right you could have three points five points but it'll um you know this is the outline okay and uh 24th September 27th which is Monday um oh sorry uh which is when is that when is our next class 29th okay so we have it on 29th and 20 every Wednesday and Friday right so uh Wednesday 29th um you could be ready with the message so it'll be a random pick okay so you could be ready with the message which is exactly uh uh and the outline is uh do we need to present it or we need to just send it to you you I mean the I mean we can do a combination of both you can just put it on the uh chat as well or you know you can put it on the um you know on the stream um so the outline will be put on the template uh yeah that's a good idea but um just seeing well not necessary Charles I think we'll just talk about it and as long as you are ready with the outline that's fine you don't need to put it on the template yeah yeah okay so no more questions okay I have a question first yeah sir now if we are not putting it on the template what is the best way to communicate with you and show you the outline because as we are doing this construction of the of the salmon we need you we need your your help in these so during the time when we will not have the class we would put the outline or maybe you in one day or two you would check there and see and give a hint so that we we have a presentable thing that's what I was referring to okay no what what we'll do is after you share the message you know we'll just give a feedback about that so I mean you absolutely have the flexibility with the outline um like based on what we have studied what we have seen so far so um so you you can go ahead and prepare it um I don't need to really get into the details but just for you to um you know understand what the outline is so once the message is shared then I can you know give a feedback about it but if you must put the outline okay I guess we can use the same template also um okay so how do we use it are there any ideas should we just put it as three columns or five columns and we can do it first we can create yeah like five columns five columns and put it there yeah okay so we already have yeah salmon topic and salmon title has two columns so um so three uh five more columns right you could have a maximum okay so that's fine okay so so yeah so we'll put it there we'll add uh yeah five more columns so you can either use three or five and put your main points there fine so that'll give a clear picture yeah so it can be you know the outline you don't have to go into great details you just talk about what you're going to talk about just put it there saying okay this is what I'm going to talk about right okay is that clear any other doubts okay so let's um let's look at different forms of delivery okay um you know there are different ways by which we can you know share the word share the message of course for our presentation we're just going to simply say it right uh so that's the first one that we see I'm on page 34 in the notes so we're just simply going to say it speak it okay um so I would say that we would just uh all you know want of time and all that so since we are going to use 12 minutes we're just going to say it speak it okay so so that's one of the uh you know usual methods of um of preaching of presenting um the second one could be to dramatize it you know you you put the whole message this whole sermon is actually uh in a drama right in in drama form and which should also be a very very powerful way of presenting it um and uh I think there's a there's a I'll probably share the link the one one called heavens gates I think which is a used as a you know mainly for outreach and as evangelistic sermon and talks about the reality of heaven and hell and and so on very powerful powerfully portrayed so it can be uh you can dramatize it it can be a trauma you know you can it can be enacted um it can be in story form I've been trying to find this you know it was a wonderful message uh which again I saw on youtube but it was it was really about the story of uh uh Ruth um and how she travels from uh you know with her mother-in-law and it was like uh it was the whole thing was a story and it was a very contemporary story right so the names were changed and uh it was about so the places were also you know places that we know today and it was a very very contemporary especially in terms of employment where the person was working what they studied so it seemed like a you know story then just maybe 10 minutes into it or 12 minutes into it you realize that hey I've heard this before and then you make the connection that it's actually the story of Ruth and um so it was a very uh I'm still trying to find that um find that video so we can you know probably uh I can share it with you uh so it can be in the story form and story form uh obviously very very powerful um you always remember the story um you always remember um you know you're you're moved emotionally uh you know and you hear a story and that's why you know cinema is a very powerful medium it's all stories and and uh yeah so it can be a story form it can be uh you can also use props on stage um and I was trying to find that video but uh I couldn't there was this uh yeah I think it was Bishop T.D. Jakes who comes in a you know army fatigues on stage and there's a there is a model of a tank which is on stage and and the whole thing the whole message is about you know about battle about a spiritual battle so so you could have props on stage and recently I think there was another church I'll find that out they actually went to great lengths um to talk about um I think it's about the storms in life uh a message on faith basically and overcoming faith but they created a set where there was water and you know and the boat and a very elaborate went to great lengths to do that um but uh yeah so that can also be one way of doing it where we have uh props um on stage to do it right uh and then singing it now a lot of um you know rural cultures traditions they sing out the entire sermon and um you know in I remember going to one such uh or hearing one such sermon and this was in my mother's village where we used to go for summer vacation and and one evening it was there and the whole the whole story I think right from creation uh up to the cross and what happened on the cross and the whole story was told in in song form you know there'll be a poetic poetry kind of narration and then a song and the song describes you know it's like a ballad it's like you know it's it's like a country you know most of these country songs or folk songs are um you know like John Denver's country roads talks about you know talks about I wish I was home uh you know and uh he talks about I hear my you know there's a radio and playing it he just kind of describes the whole scene in a song right most country songs are like that so um a song can be very descriptive it can you know convey the message and it will work for certain audiences which are used to that kind of it's a oral tradition right of conveying a message um visuals of course today we can use technology to the best possible way um visuals power points uh video um well we recently had a presentation by Chris on um you know on virtual reality uh immersive technology where you know that can be used as well where I'm just thinking you know maybe like holograms and you know all that one day will be used for you know just like how we use power point presentations and maybe you know it'll be a hologram of you know Peter and you know it'll be so real uh you know right there among the people to be able to watch Peter trying to walk on water and you know and slipping in and the Lord pulling him out and so on so I guess you know uh we could use that power points are very helpful but when we use it well right um it can even be a talk show now we tried that we had that for one uh once uh well I think it was a Easter Resurrection Sunday service where it was a talk show right so um I think so Prabhakar yes your question is props on stage is it from Transformation Church welcome to the deep I think so I don't remember the title but it's it has something to do with water and and all that you know a lot of efforts taken for that message but uh yeah I guess it's it's that way I think it's that I'll try to pull out that video sometime okay so we have all these methods and and primarily we can you know we can either when it comes to you know speaking it saying it it can be a prophetic utterance right we we looked at several you know ways like prophetic utterance it can be a revelation teaching like Paul says right well how will it benefit you unless I bring it and he talks about four ways and we we looked at that so the message can be preached which means it can be declared proclaimed or it can be taught right so which is um which is again uh different and and why is it different and how is it different because we are there's a lot of explanation we are looking at the working of uh of the truth you know we're getting into the details of it and maybe even asking retoric questions and trying to answer right uh sorry not retoric questions but trying to ask questions about the particular uh subject and answering those right and so there's a lot more explanation and so on um okay I just have some videos on preaching and teaching you know I think all of us understand that but I just thought it'll be good to just see the you know the different styles so let's let me just play one and then you could tell me what it is okay whether it's preaching or teaching um also sometimes you know we could have a mix of both you know certain sections could be preached in a message certain sections could be taught as well right okay so let's um let's see this um all clear in Job one of the oldest books it says that how God speaks to us again and again when you are sleeping God speaks to you through dreams and visions and God wants to talk to you and reveal your future so that you will be able to listen to him and do what God wants you to do now see our God is a God who speaks the point is am I are we listening to the voice of God are we busy with all our reasoning rationalizations we question we argue we debate and we put off God's plan and God's wisdom in our lives many a times people lift up their education and they see I am educated person I am an educated person I don't think God can speak to okay okay so um so that was one okay so let me just show one more I want to take two parallel passages the first one is in Matthew chapter six verses five and six and Jesus says and when you pray you shall not be like the hypocrites and then he describes how the hypocrites act and then he says in verse six but when you pray pray in this way so he uses the phrase when you pray twice the first time he starts with a negative don't pray like the hypocrites but he doesn't finish there he ends with a positive this is how you ought to pray and we have actually devoted the last session to analyzing the pattern that he gave us but now I want to move on in that same sixth chapter to verses 16 and 17 and here he introduces another dimension of prayer and he says moreover when you fast do not be like the hypocrites but he doesn't stop with the negatives a lot of people think that's where he ends but he goes on the next verse but when you fast and then he tells us how to do it in a way that's acceptable to God now I think you can see there's a close so so what was the first one I think it is very very clear right the first message that we heard on hearing God's voice was typically you know preaching right it was a declaration you know to inspire people to motivate people to spend time in his presence to put away all distractions and so on yeah that is Pastor Paul Tangaya here in Bangalore and one of the churches yeah church called FTAG full gospel recipes of God church okay then the second one is obviously it's it's definitely teaching right is looking at looking at you know scripture going into the nuances of scripture going to the details of how many times and you know and so on and we need both right we need both and Abraham that was a very very useful you know synopsis the goal of preaching is for the people to believe and teaching is to help them obey after believing I think that's that's that's very helpful yeah yeah so so preaching also you know goes beyond just helping people to believe but also it's you know transformative people to receive you know and and it can also when they respond to the preaching when we look at that they can be you know so many so much you know breaking of addictions and so on yeah but I think that in a nutshell captures preaching and teaching so so yeah so it's wonderful you know some of us might lean towards you know I think I remember having a conversation we're almost done conversation with someone that says oh I don't know you know this preacher it's like I put me to sleep I like some energy and you know in the preaching well it's great but we need both right we need the study we need the the inspiration and motivation and the push to live a godly life you know which which preaching does so yeah so we need both right okay so thank you I think that's all time we have today so thank you have a great time preparing the outline and we'll catch up on Friday with the outlines you can put it on the you know the sheet on the google sheet itself right okay thank you have a great day god bless thank you first thank you