 Okay, it's 5 30 like to call to order the public works meeting for May 26 2020 I'm going to make a go for a roll call and I can't see everybody because There's only a few that are showing pictures so older Slovakia Here. Yeah, I know I messed it up again Older Sorenson Yeah, and oh here we go and What else do we have older Phillips perfect here? And let's see We have Thomas Cameron and who else do we have I have a TTT and a CO and a CP Which one are you TTT? Okay, TTT. How about caller one who's caller one? Steve Jobs are here. All right. Thank you Steve and Older Decker Excellent All right, if you would please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic which stands one nation Indivisible with liberty and justice for all sorry my mask slipped. Um, I don't know if introduction of the Committee members is necessary. We do have director Bebel on site and Jason bustle it Jason from public works and Ryan from public works So we'll move to two point two point one approval of the minutes from May 12 2020 looking for a motion Thank you for that motion and support any questions on on the minutes from May 12th hearing none all Marcus all the person savaglio votes yes. Thank you Older Sorenson older Phillips I older Decker and I vote I chair votes I motion approved All right, we move to three point one GO 5 20 21 May 18th 2020 document 6.1 ordinance repealing and Recreating section 26907 of article 8 Division 4 of Chapter 26 and municipal code entitled sewer and water services My understanding is this is on hold Does anybody need to talk about this Thomas Cameron de would you like to say something? I can This has been a little bit of a moving target at one point We were led to believe that the city needed to approve it before it went to PSC at the state and PSC has will say clarified that They would prefer to pass it or approve it first and then have it go back to The city to essentially take action based on that. That's why we're holding it at this point That change in interpretation happened after it was referred Okay, any questions from the committee All right, thank you. Thank you for that motion in second We'll do the vote so all the savag solo Marcus all the person Avoglio votes I Thank you older Sorenson I Older Phillips I Older older person Decker I and Chair chair votes I so the motion is on hold All right, so we'll move to 3.2 resolution 24 20 dash 21 may 18th 2020 document 4.3 resolution authorizing an application for an urban non-point Source and stormwater program construction grant from the wisconsin department of natural resources Director people. Thank you, miss. Thank you, mr. Chairman. This Resolution basically is giving us authorization to apply to the department of natural resources For what is called their urban non-point source stormwater program construction grant It has a maximum award of about a hundred of a hundred and fifty thousand and the total project cost what we're looking to apply this towards is the Reconstruction or rebuilding of the pond that is located at 29th and Ghillie that was mainly put in for flood control at the time and after the 98 flood and With that pond it mainly functions as a dry pond and only gets wet and large Rain events such as the one that we just recently had with the six inches of rain With that this program we are also Mandated by the state of Wisconsin to do what is called non-point source pollution control measures and Retention ponds are a great source for reducing pollutants out of the stormwater So that's why we have many ponds throughout the city. They act for flood control There's a quantity aspect as well as a quality aspect to the ponds What they do is they retain the water the sediments and the pollutants settle to the bottom and Ultimately discharge the clear water at a much slower rate than when it came into the pond that's what we're looking to do at 29th and Ghillie is to convert this pond to make it wet permanently and function more so as a is a not only a Quantity but also now provide the water quality That's what this project would do. So at this point we have around 400,000 between this year and next year's capital improvements This would also get us to another 150,000 from the state potentially We're still a little bit short. The project is roughly Worst-case scenario depending upon the soils. It's nine hundred thousand dollar project So what this resolution also says is we're going to apply for the grant will accept the grant only if and When we have the all available funds to enter into contract So that's the other aspect of this resolution is that hey, we're going to take the grant But we're only going to use the grant if we get funding from comic council to finish the project Looking for your approval to apply for the grant Excellent. Thank you Second and who moved and who seconded please Marcus and Ryan. Thank you gentlemen Any questions from the committee? I Do have a question. It's Marcus from the fifth district where this retention pond will end up being or is currently Is it going to be remaining the same size because that kind of area right now is rather large? I just want to understand the scope If anything there may be an expansion to the west Which is school district property that would act as what we call as a for bay or a pre treatment Bay that would help get what is considered what they call as the first flush of of storm water That's got some of the highest pollutants in that for big cup captures much of that Prior to it entering into the wet basin. So there may be some slight expansion, but again that school district property It's not really being developed at this time And I think the school district again, maybe opened it this year to some urban farms some plots for people to farm but We've had conversations with the school district in the past about, you know, this potential of needing to expand a follow-up question if it pleases the chair Go for it Thank you. Is there are we going to be doing any beautification to that area in addition to the the new management of the water I Yes, that that pond is in dire need of invasives to be cleared out of it and One of the difficulties is this is currently is that we're not able to get equipment in there given the soils are unstable and we Think the equipment gets stuck in other words. So we're looking to reshape re-slope clean it up So it can be better maintained long-term and into the future Thank you very much Director Bevil I have a comment Yes Older person Phillips here Just about the way that IFC was written. It seemed a little confusing to me There was a statement in there that seemed contradictory. Maybe I am miss reading it I'm gonna flip over to my other tab so I can read it Out loud, but it says That This is to support the conversion of the pond from a dry pond to a wet pond And then the next sentence says this conversion from a wet pond to a dry pond Will assist the city So is that not contradictory or am I miss reading something? I'm looking at it myself it says Yeah, this conversion from a wet pond those are reversed So it should be dry pond to a wet pond in that set that last sentence. I would agree But that's that's what we're really it we it's stated above and I think it's repeated in the staff comments So correct ultimately we're going to it's dry. It will have a wet base into it and Again, we're going to clean up the evasives that are in the existing dry pond landscape it and have the ability to Mow it and keep it maintained in the future Older Phil. Thank you. That was a really good catch, but the end the resolution does say dry to wet also. So The IFC was the incorrect piece All right, any additional comments from the committee? All right hearing none Marcus I I'm just giving up on it older Sorenson older Phillips Hi Holder Decker And chair votes aye motion approves All right, we'll move forward to 3.3 All right resolution 25 20 dash 21 main 18th 2020 document 4.4 resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute the amendment to the agreement between the city of Sheboygan and Sheboygan athletic club Inc regarding lighting improvements at Mary test test weed Canot canoff field at Wildwood Baseball Park Thank You mr. Chairman. This is we talked about at the last meeting. We kind of had it just as an information We had representatives as well on the on at the meeting from the Sheboygan ease this basically is the resolution authorizing us to Basically amend the current repayment schedule to have it at interest only because as it's appearing More and more likely that they will not have a season whatsoever Hopefully things change and they can have some some season and have some activity there, but nevertheless That they're not going to be able to make the whole principal Payment that is due this year So this our resolution authorizes us to delay it for a year looking for your approval Perfect. Thank you Okay, thank you for that motion and support Any additional questions from the committee, okay hearing hearing none Marcus All the person Okay, all the person Sorenson Thank you all the person Phillips I All the person Decker and chair votes I motion approved all right We will go to 3.4 Resolution 26 20-21 May 18th document 4.5 Resolution authorizing appropriate city officials to execute an agreement Between the city of Sheboygan and mid-lake softball organization Inc. for operation and management of the Wildwood softball complex director Bevel Yes, this is a renewal of the agreement between mid-lake softball Organization as well as the city of Sheboygan for operations of the Wildwood softball park this this started in 2015 when the entered into agreement with them and Then we amended that this agreement This agreement also had it was a one-year agreement that could be extended up to four one-year terms and it should not it Basically, we're at the point where we need to renew it in 2020 the original agreement had a oh 20% of gross revenues formula of trying to in Basically make sure that the organization is reinvesting in the park because the last operators After some time failed to to to do that Yeah, in the 20s because of the 2017 and 18 season it was difficult to close that out and do an audit and figure out What were the revenues are how much money should be coming to the city? We we kind of got to together at the table and said, okay, let's just make this simple. This is way too complicated It's going to figure $10,000 Here's the mount put it in the bank put it separate an account and so for those two years It was 10,000 per year for a total of 20,000 and also for 2019. They needed to do another 10,000 for 2019 So what we're looking to do is with this agreement again is enter into an annual agreement for up to five five years total With the understanding now that it's just going to be a $10,000 annual Deposit for capital improvements that money needs to be in a separate bank account And it can't be withdrawn without our authorization to a project that meets True capital needs at the park. It just can't go for you know We need to buy some more chips or something that or anything in that it has to go for improvements either lighting or something with the fields or infrastructure at the park so We think it's a good agreement. We had a good meeting with them they understand the the the need for this as well and again we would and entertain that our our recommendation would be to To approve this this agreement as it's been amended into the future here. All right. Thank you Thank you director Beal any questions from the committee looking for listening for a motion Yes, okay Thank you for that motion Do I hear a second? Thank you older fellow. Thank you for that motion and support any questions older Decker Older Decker first, please Push your button I can't How is this affected for this year? How are they going to still be required to pay that this year with what's going on? Or are they going to be able to we are we going to have some kind of a Right for them. I would think if they don't have a season again I think this would be something and we would come back and say that The 10,000 that we would typically receive for their season and their their Funding would probably be waived for the season if they can are unable to have a season and have play so And that's that could be a real reality as things are progressing Organized and team level type sports at this stage are still Would be not not not allowed Okay And I clarify that answer slightly So I agree with director Beal. We actually have addressed that a little bit at the bottom of page two It talks about if no softball is played Then no annual deposit would be required If some softball is able to be played It still may be appropriate to reduce that deposit and that authority has been delegated to director Beal to work out what that appropriate deposit is So Thomas have you guys defined what some is and you know like number like 50% of play or anything like that? So I mean what it really says is if there is no softball at all then there's there's obviously no deposit if softball operations are the phrase youth in the agreement is only limited Then the parties may agree to reduce the annual deposit. So if it You know impacted by a week potentially no No adjustment would be appropriate if they're if they're able to get one end of the year Tournament in you know in October That might look very different So trying to give maximum flexibility to be to be reasonable and we do have a long-standing relationship With this organization. So I'm not I'm not concerned that parties will forget how to be reasonable as we all go through this together Excellent. Thank you. Any additional questions? We have a motion in support Pardon I Have questions still two of them. Okay Go ahead Marcus. Okay Would be regarding the deposit amount Why isn't it tied to CPI or some other measure that over time would increase? Because the cost of improving the field does not go down over time or remains stagnant director Bevil It's just because it's it's an easy Formula just a straight fee of 10,000 it gives the softball Association group that this is a consistent thing that they can plan for versus in a variable rate into the future and They don't spend it every year. So it's it's accumulating and it's in an interest bearing account I'm assuming I would hope but even still there's not much interest at a bank to into in today's world so again ease of tracking a simple straight rate and Is we we've tried in the past to tie it to like revenues and and so forth and tracking that it just became problematic Any additional questions? Yeah, my second question there would be regards to The our ability to safeguard these funds from what it sounds like the association is holding these funds But how do we make sure that they haven't spent them elsewhere or are indeed holding them? What what are the safeguards? We put in place to make sure that money is They cannot spend these funds if if and if they do that would be a violation of contract And then I would have Thomas and his office Probably give them notice and it would be terminated perfect, thank you, and Please understand we have a long relationship with them. So I Sincerely don't think that we have to worry about that Any additional questions from the committee? hearing none Marcus Sarnson Phillips I Decker I and chair votes I motion approved Okay, 3.5 resolution 27 20 dash 21 made May 18th 2020 Document 4.6 resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into a contract with August winter winter and suns to rebuild a floating cover on digester number six at The wastewater treatment plant and to make the expenditures related to rebuilding the floating cover director Bevel If it's okay with you mr. Chairman I have Steve Jocer is participating and I would like to defer to Steve and let him explain his project that he's working on Go ahead Steve SJ okay We've got four digesters that we use now that we're built with the plant expansion in 1980 Three of them have had the covers rebuilt The fourth one number six has a floating cover Back when they rebuilt the other three this one was a lot more difficult to take down especially with Turbines and everything they were trying to keep running so but it is The coating failing and we want to get it rebuilt You know before it gets too far and you got to replace it so This project basically it takes it sandblast the paint that reinstalls it, but it's a pretty big project Lot of things. Thank you Steve. Steve. Do we have this covered under? any of our budgets Costs just keep Going higher and so we've taken some of the funds from a different project We're going to do with some heat exchangers that we're going to put off here. Okay. Thank you Any questions from the from the committee? Motion to approve Second, thank you for that motion and support again any questions from the committee hearing none Marcus I Sorenson Phillips I Decker I And wolf votes Chair votes I right we'll go into three point six resolution 28 20 21 May 18th 2020 document 4.6 resolution authorizing the Relocation order in the city of Sheboygan Sheboygan County, Wisconsin director Bevel so as as part of The Aurora Hospital project they're going to be Doing some inner intersection upgrades at Taylor Union as well as doing some sanitary sewer work and With the anticipated future traffic and demands with that that project as well as Eventually the acuity expansion project. We're looking to redo that intersection Coming east into the intersection of Union Avenue in Georgia that will be reconstructed as well at that northeast corner There's a area of school district property as well as the the bio life So the bio life is just west of Georgia But it's in that Taylor and Union and Georgia Avenue area what we're looking at is we need to Bump the right turn lane, which is the northeerly most lane that impacts some of the property of bio life what this does is allows us to basically Condemn if necessary for right-of-way purposes. We have an appraisal we need but this is the resolution that authorizes that process So that our appraisal can our appraiser can give them an offer along with the relocation orders and explain the process Very similar to what we've did for like the acuity driveway and that right-of-way needed This is another aspect of that and so we would need your approval to authorize a relocation. Thank you director people And this is a common situation anytime an intersection is expanded or updated I don't want to say it expanded but updated to today's standard correct and again it's it's it's areas that just allow us to give the right right away for proper turning and The radius is to accommodate trucks and other traffic for instance and again Even though it says we have the authority to turn down We that would be the worst-case scenario or last case effort our purpose Typically is just to go through the process make sure they're aware of all their rights and their ability to get an Counter-appraisal as well at our costs. So this just formalizes the process So the proper steps are in place if things would fail and we'd have to go to that process perfect, okay So this is just public or no, you're sorry So I'm looking for a motion motion new proof Thank you for that motion and support again any questions hearing none Marcus I I Sorenson Phillips I Decker I Chair votes I motion approved. All right 3.7 this will be Items for discussion and possible action may 26 2020 public works Director Bebel, I guess you have a star water damage. I just yeah, I just it's I don't have anything to present this evening But I did want to give to a follow-up. We did the the drone footage of the lake shore and talked about where we're at and then Last week we had six inches of rain high winds coming easterly again against the shore, so It's it was what was interesting is we did have some slough sloughing of bluffs and failures Mm-hmm, and that wasn't necessarily all caused by wave action There was some wave action clearly that had had Caused some erosion, but if you recall during that conversation groundwater Coming through the embankment It makes us the bluff Unstable and sure enough we you could see some areas where where we had Sloughing of the lake bank due to that groundwater with six inches of rain It's soaked the soil so much and then it starts to move underground So that's where we've we really saw some some pretty significant failures So what we're doing internally we're starting to map them from the south side all the way to the north side and get I Areas identified. We know we're going to have to do some repairs and some stabilization So we're trying to put it together an estimate of area as well as what the potential cost could be We think that you know at this stage there's there's significant Monies that are going to be needed so it may rise that we could we talked it at staff staff level today about Talking with the governor's office that this could be considered maybe a state of an emergency and get then federal disaster Money through FEMA, but it has to come through the state governor's office first So what we're going to do is put together the package to show all the areas that are damaged What the cost? Could potentially be if we were able to fix all these and what the money would be needed to do so So just to let you know that's where we're at. We'll keep posted and probably at the next meeting We'll be able to present Kind of the areas that were damaged. This is what it costs to repair or at least what we're anticipating We're working with our consultant that is working on the south interceptor Because they're also looking at the lake action and what what they can need to do to prevent Erosion of that project they can help us in some of these other areas as well So I just wanted to give the committee an update We've received good feedback on that presentation and we've actually met with some property owners and we're able to Locate some other issues that they had that maybe the drone couldn't get so we we are able to actually Physically get out at some of these properties. So so far. I think it's been well received and it's been a good process for all of us Thank you. I Have to agree the the drone footage was very educational for constituents that Actually reached out to me. I Think it's interesting when I walk the properties of some of the constituents that do complain It's it's interesting to see what a great view they have and When you talk to them and say, you know, gosh, you know, where we're all the trees and things like that They're like, oh, we cut that down. So we had a better view and then now they're complaining. There's nothing holding Holding the bank. So I think we know we as we look for ways to fix this We should also educate them so they understand that by cutting Trees down to specific specifically trees that have the deep root systems that help hold it together That they're actually creating the problem And I also would recommend that we also educate them on the fact that they shouldn't be cutting That portion because they don't own it. So if they want us to fix it, then they should leave it alone Yeah, I think I think through this whole process There's going to be a good open dialogue that we'll be able to do some education information explain and then also what they can do as property owners to also help Protect and help basically alleviate hopefully the situation of of erosion So I think it's a I think we're all in this together where we need to You know explain what we're able to do But we're also limited in our resources in terms of trying to protect with just stone and armament and and Because that's that's really the last last Case Effort that we would like to do because it is so expensive correct correct any questions from the committee Hearing none will move on to three point eight Automated garbage and recycling marketing summary presentation Mr. Chairman I'm going to have Jason Blas Yola Superintendent of Streets and sanitation one of our key key figures in the Automated garbage and recycling program. So I really would like to have Jason present this this evening sounds great. Thank you, Jason Good evening. Good evening so we did work with Sun graphics and developing our Web page and social media campaigning and they also did all of the collateral that went out with the carts That individuals received when we delivered the carts explaining What can be recycled? What shouldn't be recycled and where to place the cart? so we Had them run the numbers for us How do I get it to advance? Where's the computer I pointed to? Sorry, so we were going to present this at the last meeting, but I These numbers are a little older, but we had about 27,000 users come to the website So we're nearly 45,000 75% were new users and when they were there they were looking at 94,000 different pages the session is can be The page views are how many times you click on a page individually if I have an own my session I can come back and I'm not being counted more as a user and then I can see multiple pages So there's 43,000 sessions So we were averaging one and a half sessions per user The bounce rate is if you're not on a page long enough to register and then it doesn't count you as a user As we go forward that how do I get rid of had a higher bounce rate as people probably read the article clicked on it And didn't have something to look up. They just looked at it and then they they bounced back out So we were happy that's a pretty decent volume and a short amount of time So the direct referral is someone typing in the shaboying in DPW comm So we had about 7,000 people from there and another 7,000 from the Google searches The M Facebook is people that are clicking on a Facebook ad from their phone or a tablet and not the desktop So the phone was the number three referral source the desktop for Facebook was number eight So the most of the people are on their phone or a tablet WHBL we had a pretty big spike. They did an article on the web page and That drove up a lot of the quit clicks there The city web page we got 218 people going from the city shaboy again web page and then clicking over to the DPW But we're developing our own audience and people are coming to our website on their own looking for garbage and recycling information Again with the more the page views the most popular one and that's because we were in this program and pushing out was the garbage and recycling The second slash is the home page and then how do I get rid of again because of the recycling that we were pushing? the highest non garbage was the park shelter and building rentals and The rest was garbage The website does have a feature where you can contact DPW and Through an email we asked your name and your phone number and then they can write in what their issue is So we had 365 inquiries from those emails 90 or 59 were from the park pages But majority of them were for garbage and recycling because of what was going on So our social media ads so we were getting Their top one was when we closed the parks for the COVID that was over 30,000 people saw that Engagement means they did something they liked it. They shared it or they clicked on But the click posts were quite a bit on that one where they went to our web page after seeing it on the social media account So after five months 1300 followers on the Facebook page Were weekly reaching about 30,000 different users and then a cumulative of a hundred ninety three Thousand people and seen our ads and the top one was the closing of the facilities with the COVID for 30,000 people So we're close to two thousand two hundred thousand Pageviews are looking at in the Facebook The YouTube only had about 35 hundred Views, but if you go to the video same videos on the Facebook that was almost 27,000 so the videos are getting a lot more traction on Facebook than they are on YouTube We did boost one ad where we paid $50 and then over the course of the month we started delivering carts in April and We wanted this ad to get out that you may have gotten your cart early April but don't put it out into the curb until May 4th. So we paid for this Post engagement is six hundred ninety five so it reached five thousand people and then 695 either clicked on the link. They liked it. They shared it So the ratio that Facebook uses three point two is average engagement with the post We got around twelve point six so for fifty dollars we reached an additional five thousand people So they could hopefully they didn't put their cart out prior to the start of the program The social media evening advertising so you can look at the specific ad that we put out and how many people that it did reach So we started the social meeting advertising in January Nearly from driven four thousand users to the site and then the majority of them are new users So the I can't read that far, but they were all garbage related carts So we got around three thousand Clicks from that and this is more of the social media advertising So in four months of social media advertising we reached a hundred ninety three thousand people I know that hundred ninety three or nineteen thousand people excuse me and We saw over two hundred thousand impressions of them looking at different things from clicking 301 new Facebook followers another five thousand clicks to the website So we've done fairly well with the outreach The blogs that we've been writing they haven't reached as much people, but we're still reaching quite a few We've been putting monthly blogs out about the carts and how to use it in recycling so The top one was the ten things to know about your garbage cart And just some examples of the collateral that we sent out you all should have received at your house and Then lastly our phone calls So in 2019 and during quarter one we took four thousand eight hundred ninety in the first quarter this year or six thousand and The second quarter were up to seventy five hundred phone calls So we've had a large volume of phone calls They seem to die down a little bit April as the carts were being delivered in the first week Whereas the busiest some of the most common were one with the carts delivering when does the program start? shredded paper which I've added To the website and then About the bags of the garbage and then the weeks the first two weeks was a little Little iffy, you know a lot of people not putting out recycling when they showed over people putting it out when they weren't supposed to but that seemed to have catched up so As a whole I think the program has gone pretty successful in the amount of A few complaints have just gone down and I think the compliance has gone up Jason I have to say that in the years that I've been involved with public works and that I Think this is probably the biggest project and I know I've said that in the past because it touches Every house every home basically and it's it's been as an older. It's been a big concern for many many years Just because of the complaints of the you know the seagulls and the rodents and the you know Little animals that rip the garbage apart at night and things and I think you know looking at this It's obviously a much safer opportunity, but it's also The fact that it makes a city look so much more organized and clean compared to what in you know in the past I personally have not received Actual complaints, I've had you know some people that are concerned about things You know my garbage carts too big or where do I put my garbage cart? And I know we will work through that just like you know director Bebel had talked about at one of the neighborhood Association meetings Where you guys were where the city was you know years ago? So I think we're making strides forward everybody sees it and you know like you've said we're the second we were the second Last city in the state of Wisconsin, so when people hear that it's kind of a slap because we don't want to be last right We're not we're just second-last, but I think you did a great job communicating it It's unfortunate the COVID situation happened because you guys still continued to do a great job communicating Even during this time I so I'm you know kudos to you and your team So thank you. Thank you with the COVID though. I don't have the exact numbers I was gonna look at them before I came we're averaging about 20 tons extra a day. We're usually around 50 tons I know today I talked to The lead we had one truck collect 18 tons just one truck one route but that's a holiday and COVID on top on top of that but our numbers of Skyrocketed quite a bit over the last month together some more data as we I usually lag a week or two behind sure I think some of that and this is just my opinion Because people are home as businesses allow for curbside pickup people are eating From the restaurant, but versus the restaurant disposing of it now. We are meeting the community So that's an option there and people are home and they're cleaning out stuff, right a lot of people talk to my wife Yep, there's a cleaning house spring cleaning kind of thing and then you also have you know the joke of people buying more online Because they're home But yeah, great job any any questions from the committee No, I just I would just that Say that again, I'm sorry all the person fill up I have a comment. Yes, go ahead Thank you. I just wanted to say that I was really surprised pleasantly surprised I have not had any complaints or concerns calls or emails from any of my constituents since this program launched So that's really awesome. It is. Um, I I am a little concerned about the every other week recycling pickup. I think that's something we might have to reevaluate in the future um me personally and I have a family of five and I typically and we're avid recyclers and Usually we put out about 50% of it is trash and 50% of it is recycling So I'm noticing already that my recycling bin Is filling up faster than Then I can keep up with the you know amount of times that it's getting picked up So even though I am crushing all, you know, beer cans and soda cans We've been burning all of our paper My bin is still filling up before two weeks. So that Just something I think you might have to keep an eye on Yeah, I'll be curious to see How it is after people go back to work also and then the online shop shopping decreases also, but yeah, um, the Every other week is the most common collection Wave and the two throughout the country. So we'll keep an eye on it and see how it goes after these Things settle down with that Definitely mortars. Yeah, I know this is all very new and has to everything's going to need to be constantly reevaluated, but that I just wanted to raise that Concern and I think especially because we were trying to encourage people to recycle More, you know and and they need to because they can fit a limited amount in their trash receptacle So if we see that increase as we expect to see in recycling I think that you know every other week may become an issue So I just wanted to just mention that This is this is Ryan. Can I jump in to make a comment and question too? Yes, go ahead Um, I definitely agree with what rose said as well Um, since the program has been operating, I've Filled it a lot less questions or concerns from constituents Um, and I've been directing them to the website and uh, both have been getting back to me saying, you know That's been a great resource. Um, I guess I do have a question for Jason. Has there been? ongoing complaints Through this adjustment so people are figuring it out. I know I feel I feel that some some relative complaints too about oh Yeah, I think it was windy the other day and some garbage cans like we're blowing away I know there's always growing pains, but I you know, are you seeing any patterns of complaints or questions I was getting Since we sort of been doing this for a few weeks now The a lot of it was what day my recycling is Um, that was the initial But no, I it's it's after the first week the the monocles is dropped um We've missed some stuff too where We're going back out with the we rerouted everything Um, everything was routed where they could pick from both sides. So we did reroute And the drivers do have iPads That they're following but we did have some routing issues where we missed a half a block In such but I mean we were all doing that on the fly Well, for the most part, I think we've gotten most of that straightened out Winter it'll probably get real calm and then winter will come around and then it'll be a lot of the same same stuff, but Um, as far as stuff being knocked over. I've not had too many complaints with that with the carts Going Okay, excellent any additional questions older Just one quick, uh, the only comment I had the uh, the only problem that I questioned or Comment that people had given to me was about the recycling schedule of the map That could have maybe been a little more Larger more visible. That's the only thing that I I had a couple constituents and I walked them through how to look it up online Because that's one of the first things somebody called me up and said my recycling didn't get picked up And I'm like, well, what's your address? Well, this wasn't the week for your Well that map says and it's all but other than that. I think it's been it's been very positive Doing on a map of the entire city and trying to get it so it can be printed and distributed to the 18 000 cards It was it was tough. Yeah growing pains Okay, any additional questions from the committee? All the person Savagwio has a comment and a question Go ahead. So my directly echo All the person Phillips comments on the recycling currently my recycling bin is completely full and my trash bin has a bag in it Um, I I would see that being an issue in the future as we go along with this um, my question though is about the residents that have steep inclines. I'm trying to find a a good solution. Thomas, please wait. I'm on I'm on a meeting. Um There's three residents in my district that have a very steep incline. I'm trying to figure out the best way for them to not The best way to get the cart up and down their hill that's as tall as the cart and almost straight up and down And I would really appreciate Some some guidance from the city staff if they could come and help me figure it out Because I don't want old people falling down and getting hurt trying to move these big cans Or not so old people doing the same thing right So like like I told you a constituent, you know, if he was elderly and firm to contact me He hasn't I've got another constituent. I'm bluffed who is 85 years old and I'm working out An arrangement with the driver will have to get it and bring bring that down That's another alley where it's just way too narrow that we can't Get there's probably two locations where the alleys we didn't go in the alleys with the old truck because it's The old truck couldn't make the turns or get into and the new trucks aren't going to do it at all and they do have Three or four steps that they have to get down so Okay Excellent. Thank you Thank you Any additional questions from the committee? hearing none We'll move to thank you jason We'll move to 4.1. Which is our our next meeting date is uh, june 9th 2020 And then moving to 5.1 motion to adjourn Move to adjourn Second. Thank you for that motion and support Marcus all the persons of aglio vote aye. Thank you marcus All the person sorenson Aye All the person phillips Aye All the person decker. Aye Chair votes aye. We are adjourned. Thank you everybody