 Hello, member Ocaña. Let's go ahead and test that audio, please. Hi, I'm here. Hi. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Welcome, Jorge. We would like to go ahead and test your audio and video prior to the start of this meeting. Hello. Hi. Wonderful. Thank you so much. Awesome. Thank you. All right. Welcome, everyone. If you want to turn our cameras and microphones or cameras at least, welcome to a brand new year in the first Community Advisory Board meeting of 2021. So we have two new members tonight that are going to have an oath of office, but first we're going to do call to order and roll call. Right. Thank you. Let's see. Member Baldenegro, are you here? Present. All right. Member Cruz. Present. Member Devine. I don't think I saw her. Okay. Member Foster. I don't see him either. Member Harper. Sorry. I don't have the dual screen, so all I can see is my list. All right. Thank you. Member Analsensio. Here. Yes. Thank you. Member Moore. Present. Member Ocanya. Here. Member Carabin. Here. Member Roberts. Roberts. Vice Chair Graves. And Chair Barnett. Here. All right. Thank you. I have all members present except for member Devine, members Devine Foster and Roberts. Thank you, Danielle. At this time, we would like to go to item number two, which is our oath of office for new CAB members. I want to welcome Manny and Jorge. And at this time, I'm going to hand over to Danielle, to administer the oath via Zoom. All right. Welcome, Manny and Jorge, to the CAB. So what I'm going to do is do each of your oaths of office individually. So I will have you state your name and I will read the entire statement and then ask if you agree. You will say yes or no. And your oath of office will be complete. And then what I will do after this is mail out copy of this for you to sign and then mail back to me, or we can arrange to do it in person as well. Let's go ahead and get started with member Baldenegro. We'll have you turn your sound on please. Okay. Are you ready? I'm ready. All right. I state your name. I'm Manuel Castillo Baldenegro, Jr. All right. Do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter. Do you agree? I agree. Great. Thank you and welcome to the cab. Thank you. And next we have Jorge. Could you please unmute yourself and are you ready? All right. All right. Great. So I state your name. I Jorge Innocencio. Do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter. Do you agree? I do. Great. Thank you and welcome to the cab. Thank you. Yes. All right. And I see member Roberts has joined us as well. Welcome Keith and welcome Manny and welcome Jorge. I'm super excited to have you on board and bringing your energy to this board. Normally we're far more touchy-feely. You'd be getting lots of accolades and you know, applause, etc. So I promise, you know, 2021 we will have an opportunity to avoid this year to celebrate. All right. At this time, I would like to go on to item number three on our agenda, which is public comment. Cherie, we actually have to take public comment for that last item first. Oh, I apologize. Can we go back to item number two? Here we do public comment for item number two. There are no hands raised for item two. Thank you. Now can I go to item number three, which is public comment. Hands raised for item three. Thank you. All right. At this time, I'd like to go to item number four, which is approval of minutes from our December 16th 2020 special meeting. And I get a motion. I'll make a motion to approve the minutes as written. I can second that. Any additions, corrections? Otherwise, I'll go straight to a vote and Danielle, I'll have you take that over. All right. So let's see. Member Bolton-Nagro and Member Innocencio, since you're new, you'll both have to abstain and you can start voting next month on the minutes. Member Cruz? Yes, Bolton, sorry. Thank you. Member, let's see, no divine yet. So then we'll go to Member Harper? Yes. Member Moore? Okay, abstain. I wasn't here. Okay. Let's see. Member Ocanya? I agree. Yes. Member Carabin? I abstained. I wasn't here either. Okay. Member Roberts? abstain also. Thank you. Vice Chair Graves? Vice Chair Graves. Now we can hear you. Okay. All right. Approved. Thank you. Chair Barnett? Approved. All right. Motion passes and minutes are approved. Thank you. And then just to let our new members know, we have a facilitated agenda. So I co-chair this meeting and after this item, I'm going to hand the agenda over and Co-Vice Chair Graves will take over. So I'm handling items one through five. She's going to handle items six through nine. So, and then I'll make a little more sense as we go along with that way since Zoom calls can be somewhat taxing, it just kind of breaks up the meeting a little bit and gives chairs a break basically. Item number five, cab announcements. And the key thing for this is if anybody has another meeting that they need to attend, either leave early, this is the time that you would let us know because we do have an issue with the quorum. We do have to have a minimum of eight members. We're a 14 member board. So we need seven plus one for a quorum. And then at this time, if you have any other announcements, things you would like the cab to know about, this is the opportunity to do so. Any cab updates? Oh, Cecile. I have a stop. I have to leave for a meeting at 7.30 at the latest. Member O'Canya. I just wanted to make an announcement that I was appointed to the Sonoma County Planning Commission a couple of weeks ago by Chris Corsi. And so I have had to decline to participate further in community advisory board because I do run a small business and have limited outside the hours time. So I wanted to thank everybody very much for including me in the process. I let Danielle know I'd stick around for a little bit while we brought in the new members. And there's not much happening with the planning commission. So it's always fun to still listen to these meetings. But I wanted to thank you all very much for including me. Any other announcements from cab members? Leslie. Congratulations, by the way, on that very exciting. And I wanted to just, if it's unknown, let folks know what happened with that banner. A hot item that came to the cab last time as a staff presentation, I went to the council meeting and listened in. And the banner policy on the light poles was approved with the exception for neighborhoods would not have to pay for the banners. And I just thought I would bring that back and let you folks know that there's no, there's not going to be a permit fee and an install installation fee. And I think that other details might be worked out, but it seemed to work out really well. And there was a lot of community involvement and input. And I thought I would let you know. Any other cab member announcements? Member more. Hi. I just want to let everyone know that although I very much appreciated the recommendation for co or C vice chair and appreciated the confidence that you showed in me. I do need to resign from that position. I'm effective immediately and do so knowing that Leslie chair graves is on the job and going to support chair Barnett in that leadership capacity. Thank you, Carly for all that you've done as our co vice chair this last year. We've really appreciated your help with facilitating the agenda and creating the agenda during our somewhat monthly meetings and back and forth emails. Yeah, I also want to reiterate what Danielle just said. And also the work on the subcommittee has been instrumental in all of the projects you've taken on and all of the working documents for onboarding new members that we have new members that are getting at the benefit of all this information that you need to get brought together. So I'm extremely grateful for all your work. And also to Jacqueline, I am, this is very sweet because I am tickled pink that Chris Couracy has appointed you to the planning commission. And I know that this is a beginning for you into much more forms of community involvement. But I'm also heartbroken because we're going to lose you on the cab. But I know that you're not going anywhere that you're just changing roles, but we're going to see you sooner versus later. So thank you. Thank you for both of you for all of your service. It's been a lot to us. And just to note, Shari, that I'm not resigning from the cab, but just from that role. So I'll still be providing a lot of input to the expertise committee and other things as well. And I am grateful for that. All right. Any other cab member announcements? Seeing none, I'm going to hand the agenda over to Co-Chair Graves and I'm going to mute. Great. Thank you for that. We're moving on to agenda item number six, which is the staff updates. So Danielle, you have some updates for us. Yes, I do. And Magali will be joining me in these updates as well. So I will kick it off under the community empowerment plan. The one update that I have here is that we are making progress on the Lowrider Patrol Car Project with the Sonoma County Lowrider Council. We still are waiting for the car to be turned over to the council to get started on the building of the car. Probably another couple of weeks or so. But we are currently meeting with them as well as Chief Navarro and a couple other staff members from SRPD to talk about the design as well as outreach of all the projects. And speaking of outreach, we are in the process of contracting with For the Arts or FTA projections to create a documentary style video on the project. This will include interviews with the Lowrider Council members, recording of the different stages of building the car, as well as interviews with city staff and city leadership. And in addition to that, I just wanted to mention real quickly that the Lowrider Council is very much wanting to stick to the classic look of a patrol car with just a little bit of the hints of what makes a Lowrider a Lowrider. So things like hydraulics, the rims and tires, very specific rims and tires, but will hopefully be maintaining the paint and maybe adding a little bit of like pinstriping or a mural of some sort. But they really want to keep it looking very close to what the patrol car looked like before it was handed over to them just with a little bit of that Lowrider style. So that is my update right now with the community empowerment plan and associated projects. I'm going to turn it over to Magali. She has an update for us on the final report. Thank you, Danielle. I did want to just add to Danielle's update on the Lowrider patrol car. We've had a number of community members, organizations and businesses reach out to us because they would like to either donate parts or donate labor. So it is generating a lot of excitement in the community. And it's really beautiful and wonderful to see community members being so excited about a city project, an outreach project at that. And so in terms of the community empowerment plan report, I super appreciate everyone being so patient and working with us in this process. In this process, we found that it's really important for us to create a document that is accessible at all levels to all community members. So we are working with a graphic artist and we're also really putting our intent out there to be able to work with C Collaborative, which you may have heard C Collaborative is that equity firm that the city's hired and is in contract with who will also help us create a plan specifically for SRPD, for the fire department and also for the city as a whole. So I'd love for there to be an alignment. And so that's why it's so appreciative of everyone's patience, but we don't want to put the cart before the horse and so to say. So I appreciate everyone being patient and understanding that the accessibility piece is really important. And also if we can get alignment with C Collaborative, that would be really wonderful. Thank you. All right. Thanks, Magali. Our other placeholder updates the open government work. Currently, I don't have an update for you right now. We should hopefully have a subcommittee meetings scheduled with the Open Government Task Force Implementation Subcommittee of the City Council sometime in February. And then there is a study session taking place, I believe, towards the end of March on implementation updates with the open government ordinance. Some more information to come when we have that available. And then finally, I do have one other, actually two other updates. So when a member more mentioned that she was stepping down as co-vice chair, we had actually already talked about it prior to the meeting because the vice chair position is actually up for cab vote once a year. And we are trying to get better at doing that after one year. And so in February during our next meeting, we will be holding a vote for our next vice chair, which you can either hold on to vice chair Graves or you can nominate other members and hold a vote. And so we will be doing that next month's meeting. Then the last update that I have is the mask up campaign that the city is gearing up for. We're doing kind of a soft rollout now, but I had emailed the board last week about some of the materials that we have for that available for you. So we do have masks with the campaign logo on it. We have one for you. And then we do have a number of masks that you can take with you to give out to your neighborhood group and community contacts. And then we have one yard sign per cab number as well, if you so choose to take it and put it up in your yard. So if you are interested in doing this, please reach out to me via email. We need to arrange a time for you to come pick it up. I can make arrangements to be at City Hall one day either towards the end of the week, like Friday or potentially someday next week. If a number of you can come in on a particular day, I am trying not to go into the office very often though. I'm really trying to stick to working from home. So we'll need to figure out what everyone's schedule looks like for that. So just email me directly if you would like to pick those up. And those are my announcements for this month. Great. Thank you for those stamp updates at this time. As any of our members have questions regarding the updates, I saw member Roberts and member Cruz. Thank you. Yeah, I'm not trying to unsee anyone, but I was just curious about the term for the chair position. It's one year. And again, if there are two members that are voted in, they can share as as Co vice chairs did this last year as well. So one year term and then we'll hold the next vote after February. One year from February. I'm sorry. I'm not sure if I was clear. So was that for the vice chair? I was asking about the chair position. Oh, I'm not trying to unseat. The chair position was actually selected by the current mayor. And so it's up to the mayor if he would like to keep chair Barnett in her seat as chair of the cab, or he can decide if he would like to have a new chair of the cab. So it also depends on if chair Barnett would like a break and would like somebody else to chair. Just curious. Yeah. I'm glad to see that the low rider project is moving along. I'm just curious. Chain steering wheel, Diamond Tuck upholstery or eight tracks. I don't know. Are those going to be included? It's got to be a low rider, right? Okay. Definitely. We'll definitely provide those suggestions to the low rider council. As I said, they will be doing the datans, the rims, the hydraulics. There have been some folks stepping forward from the community wanting to do some pin striping on the car, as well as a mural on the back. Let it have a mural. Yeah. They just don't want it to get too overwhelming or crazy with the design. So that's why they mentioned they'd like to keep it pretty close with bits and pieces of that low rider flair in there, mostly on the painting and the paint detail of the car. Yeah. Are there any other questions for members? Sorry, Vice Chair Graves. I did see a question in the chat box from Member Moore, what districts are our new members representing? So thank you for that question. So, Member Inocencio is currently our southwest seat. So we haven't quite gotten to the point where council has switched from cab area seats over the boundaries of the cab to the district seats yet. However, they are, I think the city attorney is working on making that shift with the council. So we're still kind of in this weird area where we still have cab area seats. So Member Inocencio is in that southwest area seat. And then Member Baldenegro is in that large position. I don't see any other questions from members. But since you did bring up the council districts versus the cab areas, maybe just for record, can we actually get a little bit of an explanation of that? Because it sounds, I somewhat understand it, but I think it might be a good idea just to have it said out loud and to kind of talk about on the side. And I realize you weren't talking about it on the side, you were very upfront, but it wasn't complete. And it's very hard to understand, I think, historically and how this isn't necessarily online. Sure. So I can talk about historically. So historically, the cab boundaries have been outlined in resolutions, first in the city charter and then in the resolution. So the main boundaries are the Highway 101 and Highway 12. And then the different areas are broken out from there. So southwest is south of 12 and west of 101, for example. And so that's how the boundaries were created originally. And we've had those boundaries. Plus we've also, so we've had northeast, northwest, southeast, southwest, north and south. So anything north of Highway 12, anything south of Highway 12. And then we've had the central or downtown core area. And then we've also have six, no, sorry, seven at large seats. So seven area seats and seven at large seats for total 14. Those particular areas don't match up with the current council districts at all. So there might be, so like for the southwest area, for example, there is, there is some overlap between district one and district seven. But for district one, the southwest area seat doesn't cover the South Park, one of spring's area that's covered by the southeast area, cab area currently or yeah. So, and then also that southeast area also covers parts of, I believe, district three and district two. So it's pretty messy when people look at it that way. So the city attorney is currently working with both the city manager and the council on realigning everything so that it matches up with the council districts. In addition to that, historically to council members have not necessarily their particular appointments. So for example, again, going back to that southwest area, council member Fleming actually has that area. So they assign different members the cab area seats when they come on board to the city council. And so she ended up with the southwest area seat and then her at-large seat. So what some of the council members have been doing who are already or who were previously part of a district like district four, I know she used her at-large seat to appoint someone from which it was member O'Conia from her particular district, if that makes sense. Lots of information, very kind of dense and complex, but that's kind of the basic breakdown of how that happened. Thank you. I know that it is, it is confusing, but I'm touching upon it just a little tiny bit and not going into the fuller explanation. Might seem just a little odd when someone views this later. So thank you. I appreciate your time to do that. I had one question regarding the lowrider marketing and how that'll be. It's a police vehicle, but the lowrider council is actively involved in it. And as I understand from listening in to different meetings, that they, that was actually put forth by them, that they wanted this to happen as a way to connect with the community and have the police better connect with the community. But how is that going to be something that the community will know other than that information being on the website? Will there be a co-branding of the vehicle out in the public so that the public is aware of that? Because I realize again in listening to meetings that there is some hesitancy around how maybe a cultural aspect is being co-opted and the safety of the BIPOC community in relation to the police officer. So I don't want to ignore that point and I'd love to know how that's going to get handled out in public. Once we have this spectacular vehicle with maybe even an 8-track out on the road. So what I will say without getting into too much detail, I think it'd be great if our staff member Gustavo Mendoza actually could join us at a future meeting to give a presentation on lowrider culture because he is actively involved in that and maybe a couple members of the lowrider council themselves can come. But what I will say is there have been talks about the lowrider council being able to either plaque the car itself so it will have that lowrider council plaque on the back of the car installed right after the building is done. So that's a message to the community that this was a partnership between the city and the lowrider council number one. And then number two, to address what you would mention just real briefly about concerns from the community about cultural appropriation and concerns that this might have a negative effect maybe on the BIPOC communities that we serve. I want to make it really clear that lowriding itself is its own special culture. While, yes, it may have originated in the Mexican American or Chicano actually community, lowriding is a worldwide phenomenon and then a lot of people don't know that. There are lowrider chapters and communities in Japan, Australia, Mexico, all over the United States and lowriders are, they identify as Latino, they identify as Chicano, they identify as black or African American. We have indigenous lowriders, right? It's not just specific to one cultural or racial ethnic group. It is its own culture and this is something that I have learned myself being married to a lowrider number one, but also number two, attending their car club meetings, attending the lowrider council meetings. I've done a lot of like education around this because I can tell you a lot of the members are very passionate about lowriding. They see lowriding as a form of healing from trauma. They see it as a violence prevention strategy and they are very, very heavily immersed in this culture. It's a part of their lifestyle, right? And they want to be able to give this gift of lowriding to the community as a way of bringing the community together with the city, with SRPG as a form of healing together. Obviously, that's only one piece of the work that needs to be done with the community, but I think it's a fantastic piece and it's coming from a community group that normally doesn't participate in city or local government processes, right? That was actually the first time they've ever participated in the listening session, which was really awesome, right? A lot of them were still really nervous, too, in the subsequent meetings that they had with us, with Councilmember Schwedhelm and with Chief Navarro, which is they're still learning, too, how to use their voice and their platform now to advocate for what they want to see in their community, right? And so I will leave it at that or else I'm going to go on forever. But again, if the cab's interested, I know Gustavo would love the opportunity to come talk about lowriding, give the history behind it, and how he has used it in his work in restorative justice and healing from trauma. Again, I'll stop. Danielle, if I could just echo what you said. And I think it'd be great. I don't know how permissible this is, but if we can get Gustavo and maybe Miko or David from the Lawyer Council. So community members could really understand that this is an initiative led by them. And we are, like Miko said, so eloquently once it's a gift that they are giving as a community to the city. And so community members have questions. Definitely let's get to them. But I think it'd be really wonderful to get some of the actual Lawyer Council folks to tell it in their own words and with their own passion. I think that'd be great. I love the chat, by the way. Thanks, guys. Yes, cruising happens regularly right now, actually. So it's hard in COVID because you can't really get out, get out and look at the cars, but we are out there cruising quite often in the good weather, not right now though. And I do see member Harper with his hand up. When COVID is all done, can we use the low rider car for events when we go out tabling? That's all I want to know. All right. I'm for it. Completely support that. Thank you, member Harper. And yeah, great, great car culture and car history and love to learn more. I'm so supportive of all of that. Low riders are one of my favorite vehicle classes at any car show. So moving on to public comments that we even need to go to. There are no hands raised for public comment on item six. Thank you. And with no other thoughts from our members of the cab, we'll be moving on to agenda item number seven and our scheduled items. And 7.1 is a presentation for the model for response to mental illness and homelessness. And we have joining us tonight, Captain John Cregan. I hope I'm saying that right. And from the standards of police department, we'll make the presentation. Thank you, Captain, for being here and the floor is yours. Absolutely. Thanks for inviting me. So what I want to do today, my name, like we said, is John Cregan. I'm a captain. I manage our field services division at the police department. That's our uniform personnel. And one of the things that we started as a city that examining as we looked at kind of a national transformation in police services across the country this year is about how could we better provide services to those experiencing mental health crisis in our community. One of the things and this is an idea that originated from the community. So some of our public listening sessions through city council and a lot of our public meetings, the community brought forward this model out of Eugene, Oregon called the CAHOOTS program. And the name right there is at the top. It's an acronym that stands for crisis assistance, helping out in the streets. And honestly, a lot of us had never even heard of the CAHOOTS program until this summer. But when we started diving in and I've spent a lot of time meeting with the CAHOOTS staff there and meeting with the Eugene police department staff. And I really have learned a lot about this program. And I'm such a believer in it. It's a tremendous program and what you see and what it's done there in their community. And honestly, Eugene was well above ahead of their time. And they actually started this program 32 years ago in 1989, and one of the first in the nation. And it started out really small and it's grown incrementally over the decades. But now it's a model that agencies across the country are flooding them with calls and wanting their assistance. And we'll talk later about some of the things we've done. But just yesterday, actually, we've been working on a contract with them since July. And they were, it was pretty difficult because they were getting so many calls. And this is a small nonprofit in Eugene. And suddenly they were kind of the focus of hundreds of calls from around the country about wanting their expertise. But they chose just a few select agencies across the country that they're going to sign these contracts with to consult them to start projects in their communities that mirror what CAHOOTS doing. So just yesterday, we signed our final contract with them. And we're in contract with the Whiteburg Clinic, which is the nonprofit which administers the street program called CAHOOTS. And we really love this because we don't want to just start and kind of create our own project and have all these missteps that took them 30 years. Instead, we're going to go to an agency who's been doing it for 32 years and is doing what everyone in our community says is a model of what they want to see here in Santa Rosa. So our community spoke on this and the city of Santa Rosa is going to answer resoundingly to that request and be able to bring that here. So I'll tell you a little bit about what CAHOOTS does and the calls they do want and kind of the steps that we've taken as a city to meet this need. So we talked about it's in Eugene. We'll talk about sometimes there's confusion because also the neighboring city of Springfield Oregon, they service them for a CAHOOTS product there. So sometimes the stats get mixed a lot. And so I hear even today we've presented three times to our City Council Public Safety Subcommittee on CAHOOTS for the different stages. And you hear frequently people saying that the team goes to 24,000 calls a year for 20% of the calls. But we'll talk a little bit about that's confusing because that's people who are getting some stats maybe off the internet and but that's that's the combined of Eugene and Springfield that went to 24. And then we'll start also talking about that 24,000 calls is not police diverts. It's 24,000 things, including phone calls they did for follow-up, including transporting people to doctor's appointments, things like that. So we'll dive a little bit deeper into those numbers. But at the end of the day, it diverts thousands of police calls and it provides a better service to those in a mental health crisis. And that's what we want to see. The budgeting, it's going to be a little different for us here in Santa Rosa because obviously costs in California can be a little bit higher and us meeting the specific needs. But it gives us a good baseline for what CAHOOTS is doing. For what they're doing right now is it's roughly about $1.2 million between their operational costs and their fleet costs that they're able to do. And that provides with them a 24-7 coverage, which is what our long-term goal is for the city of Santa Rosa as we build up our capacity. Can we go to the next slide? So the big thing for us to understand is what is the type of calls of service that CAHOOTS is going to go to? So obviously they're going to be primarily focused on those that are experiencing mental health crisis. But the key caveat is when no weapons or violence are involved. So if it's a man with a gun who's suicidal, then CAHOOTS isn't going to be able to respond. But that doesn't mean they still won't be a valuable resource. So what we'll do is you can still have a police officer respond, use the tools from the police department to hopefully be able to eliminate the weapon from the position or to be able to make the situation safe. And then we would still call CAHOOTS in to provide their mental health services and to be able to whether the person gets put on a mental health hold or whether it's just providing some resources to them or getting them into care. So they won't be the first responder to weapons or violence calls, but they'll certainly be a part of the response. The same thing that I think is will be a critical part of this is responding to intoxicated subjects or those under the influence of controlled substance. And so many of these like all they they have that's connected. So so many things you're seeing some suicidal people, but there might be very often a substance abuse issue, whether it be alcohol or controlled substances that are involved. So having that expertise to handle these type of calls will be tremendous. And they're going to be able to provide a service. So the CAHOOTS team will transport people. So if you get a nonviolent intoxicated person on 4th Street in downtown Santa Rosa, we wouldn't send a police officer that call. We would send the CAHOOTS to that call and CAHOOTS would go there. They would evaluate them. They would talk to that person and they would even do a transport to our vendor center. So they can't transport the jail, obviously, but their hope is to be able to resolve these nonviolent calls in looking at more of a public health model of getting them into some services. And then the big win for us is that the police and fire department aren't responding to those calls and are available for other calls and we're sending the right resource to these problems. They'll go with emergency shelter resources. So that's talking about obviously with homeless people and other vulnerable members of our population that they'll be able to assist. Welfare checks. So welfare check that commonly will get like, oh, I haven't heard from my mom and a week and she's not answering the phone and I live in Tennessee. I can't check on her. So they would be able to go to some of those welfare check where there's no suspect of a crime has been committed. Doing some and this is where it's low level for the medical stuff. So obviously, they won't go to car crashes or anything like that. But someone who has a low level medical thing and sometimes we see that a lot with the homeless population that fire resources get used a lot through the day. So they'd be able to handle some low level and non-emergency medical and even some non-emergency transports. And then certainly this what we'll start seeing a theme of them is this upstream approach, which is things that the police department are not going to do or the fire department are going to do aren't going to say, hey, let's go take you to go get your meds filled, whether it be your psych meds or any type of meds or let's take you to your doctor's appointment and make sure you're seeing that. So that's where some people can say, well, that's not really a police divert call. And they're right. The police aren't going to do that. But at the end of the day, where I really see this and especially with talking with the cahoots team, it is a police divert call potentially. So by us getting this person to go take their psych meds, they're never going to get to that point of crisis where they're breaking their neighbors windows out with a baseball bat and getting a police called and turns into a confrontation, sometimes forces being used. So by us looking ahead and working with these people who are struggling, getting them to see their doctor, getting their meds fills, hopefully we eliminate ever the possibility of that crisis situation occurring. So it is a win for that individual and certainly a win for the community in the police department. Now, in some cases, even assist with doing death notifications, the team and using their the mental health clinician that's on there. So that's something that's not a fun job as a police officer to go out and make death notifications. But it is a key part of our job. And so we'd be able to use this. We also use internally our chaplains, our police chaplains, which are volunteers, but they work with police officers to do that. So the cahoots team would be able to support us on that. And they'll do some, this is the gene model, they'll do some transportation from juveniles to bring them to use shelters and looking at like the SA Y shelter that we have here in Santa Rosa, they'd be able to transport juveniles to those facilities. Let's go to the next slide. So the big key things that we have to understand as we're building this model is they're certainly going to be an enhanced level of service, but we can't go with the misunderstanding of the fallacy that they're going to be able to go into every single crisis call and be able to go if there's a man with a gun or if it's someone fighting with their spouse or armed with a weapon. And unfortunately, we do see that a lot when people are in mental health crisis, but not all of the calls. And we'll talk about like that. We already talked a little about this upstream approach. And to me, that's such a huge part of the program. And a lot of times it really gets undervalued about how many calls we're eliminating with this program. And I think that it's hard to capture that in the data. But the more I've talked to agencies that are using this model, and the more I've talked to the gene police department, it's an underrepresented value of the program. And I'm excited for the calls for service and the level of service that we'll be able to help just with that approach. Let's go to the next slide. And these are some of the things that we've been some steps that we've taken. So, since July that we've been doing this. So, we've been meeting with some of our mental health stakeholders. Some of that is our local NAMI Sonoma County. So, for the National Alliance on Mental Illness, I actually sit on their board of directors for our local NAMI. And it's something I'm passionate about about bringing some more mental health resources to our county and our city. And it's something that I see as a deficit for the city of Santa Rosa. I think that we see time and time again that police officers don't have the level of training that they need to be able to handle these calls. And we can work on sending police officers to more training, but honestly they're never going to get the same level of training. So, instead of us looking towards some of these alternative models and working with the police department, that's the way to get this done. So, NAMI has been a key part of that. Sonoma County Behavioral Health and they currently have the mobile support team, which is uniquely different. And that the mobile support team has the mental health clinicians, but their current model is they won't respond to a residence until the police department has secured the scene. And that was the model that was set up. They are reevaluating that model. And I think you may see changes on that in the years to come, but that's still the current model they exist in today. And then another key partner in this has been Bukaloo programs, which has long existing mental health programs both in Sonoma and Marin, and they've been a leader in this area as a non-profit. And we're going to talk later in the next slide about how they're going to be a key part of our program here. The next one is working to establish the agreement. That's been literally dozens of phone calls over the last couple of months to get this contract signed yesterday. So, it was such a huge kind of excitement for our program because I believe it's really going to get things, the timeline moving faster now that we're in contract with CAHOODS, and we're going to have their level of expertise to guide us through this. They're giving us all their training. They're giving that they train their staff, their equipment, their all their protocols. And so they're going to step us through every step of the way, step of the way. So I'm excited about that. And I'm also just kind of proud about our city about being one of the few selected that CAHOODS is going to sign this agreement with. And I talked to our council today and talked about that. And the reason why they selected us, he was pretty forthcoming with me. He said that, hey, we literally have hundreds of requests coming in from agencies who want to do this. But he said Santa Rosa stood out with strong community commitment, and then the support of our city manager, our city council, and our chief of police. And he goes, you guys showed us so much how you want this in your community. And he goes, I don't want to have to go to a community where I have to sell you in the program. And he said, you guys already are sold on it. So that would set us up hard. And so, and right now they're just telling other people, you're going to have to find someone else. And so I think our model will end up being a model for the Bay Area. I've had a lot of agencies from around the Bay Area already contacting us because they know that we're going into contract with them and kind of want to use our expertise. And so I'm excited for us to be kind of the leader here in Sonoma County, even throughout our region. The next thing that we're doing is we're looking at some some different collaborations that we can do. And one is this police mental health collaboration program. So what that is, it's actually through the U.S. Department of Justice. And they have these mental health learning sites. So it's one of the things we can do in the learning sites are designed for agencies who are basically leaders in this area. And so it says people who have programs like a Hoots in their program or people who have make it a priority in their police departments where some of their mental health response. And that's what we're creating here in Santa Rosa. So we're applying for this program where we can bring this and they'll help supplement training for first responders and they'll help supplement some of the training for our Hoots team. So we're still on the early stages of that and haven't been officially approved for it, but we're working through that and hopeful to see what we can get. Obviously, another key part of this is seeking community feedback on the needs. We don't want to create a program that looks good for me as a police officer. I want to create a program that meets the needs of our community. So even tonight is part of that. Keeping you guys up to speed on where we're at, but one of the most important parts of the presentation tonight is the feedback I get from you. I want to hear what is the community need, what are some people that you think I still need to talk to that maybe I haven't talked to so we can build the best program that we can here for our city. And part of that is we've been doing a lot of talks with local nonprofits and then using our local knowledge. I've been a police officer in the community for almost 22 years now and have worked with a lot of the nonprofits. And if we go to the next slide, I'll talk about some of the key nonprofits that have stepped up. And the ones that we're working with right now that is our we're proposing that we're going to model with is for Buckaloo programs and they're going to handle our mental health component. And so they're going to, they already have a pretty established mental health network here in Moran and Sonoma County, but they're going to hire additional staff who are going to be licensed mental health clinicians that are going to handle that component of our team. We're going to work with Catholic Charities to do homeless outreach and this is going to be different than their host team. So their host team will still work and do the work they're doing in a community, but Catholic Charities will hire additional staff who's going to work with our team. And this is actually the one area that we're going to expand upon the Cahoots model. So the Cahoots model has just two people in their response. They have a mental health clinician and they have a medic. They have either a nurse or an EMT that rides in their car. We're going to actually add a third person to our car and make our team what I think is going to be a little bit better with our large homeless population that we have in our city. And we want to be able to do increased outreach and more work with those in our community and the homeless community. So we're going to have all three of these components. And I think it's going to be a whole, a more holistic team that's going to be able to address some of the needs that are unique to our community here in Santa Rosa. And then the third, we're still in the early stages for our medical response, but we're working toward the possibility of having our local fire department involved. They have the training, they have the strong community knowledge. And our new fire chief, he's the interim chief right now, Scott Westrow, is very open to working with us. He's very progressive with this. And we're thrilled to have a leader such as Scott in the fire department and how he's embraced this Cahoots model. We still have a lot to work through with the city about being able to allocate the staff toward our team that we need for fire EMTs to be part of this team. But we're taking those steps and we'll see where that goes. We're still at the early stages of that. And kind of the next steps that we have going and then we can talk about some of the questions is one of the big, heavy lifts is establishing our budget and how much is this going to cost us? And where are we going to pay for where it's going to come out of the general fund or the police department budget? So we still have a lot of work to be done on that. But some of the things that we're doing on that is putting a lot of efforts into identifying state and federal grants that can help support us. And another effort that we're really excited about is some of our local hospitals between St. Joseph's, Kaiser and Sutter showing some strong interest and participating in this program and financially participating in this program and assisting us getting this off the ground because they see the strong need in our community. And they also know the impact that it has on their emergency rooms and on their staff. When those experiencing mental health crisis or substance abuse are using their facilities with a targeted team, we think we can reduce some of that and reduce some of the strain on their facilities. Other big things that we have on the horizon this next 90 days is developing our training and identifying our equipment needs for the team. So I've been spending a lot of time on what type of car we're going to have and what works for CAHOOTS and some of these other programs for the response team to actually be mobile in developing our protocols about and we're going to have a lot because with our dispatch system about our dispatchers taking these calls and what calls get dispatched out to this team. We're going to start when phases. So we're not going to be able to do a 24 hour a day, seven day a week team from right away at the beginning. What we're leaning toward doing is that we're going to have two teams that work for 10 hour shifts. So they'll work like a Monday through Thursday. We'll work one team and the other team will work like a Wednesday through Sunday and they'll overlap on that Wednesday. And then we'd have 10 hours, seven days a week. And then as soon as we build up capacity with the hiring or with our training, then we would add another 10 hour shift and go to 20 hours a day. And then ultimately we'd like to have enough of an overlap that we'd have a full 24 hours a day, but we're just cognizant. That's going to take some time with starting this program from scratch. The next big thing is we're going to continue with the community education and engagement because we know once we start this team, that's just the first hurdle. But now we really have to educate our community on what this team does, how it's uniquely different than the response that we have today and start building trust with those. And I know from my work with NAMI, there's a lot of hurdles for people who are in a mental health crisis who family members are scared to call the police department. They're worried that if I call the police department, what if this results in them getting in a fight with the police department or someone gets shot and it could just exacerbate the problems. So there are calls right now with the current model where those who need help aren't reaching out for help because of that fear. But also a big thing that is involved in the mental health community is the stigma of it. If people don't want a police car coming to their house and the neighbors all coming out in the yard and seeing what the problem is, so that'll be a big part of this Kahootz team. They won't be in a police car. It'll be probably like a white man or an SUV. They don't wear police uniforms. They're going to be like an Apollo shirt that says the name and we won't use the name Kahootz. We're working on some different names right now, but we'll have some type of name that meets the needs of our community. So you won't have that stigma and you won't have the fear. These are going to be unarmed civilians and just regular polos with enhanced training on providing mental health services, homeless services, and medical services that will respond to those and at the end of the day we really feel it's like bringing the right resource to the problem and we're excited about that. Also another big part of it is the continuing work with our allied agencies across the county and with the county of Sonoma on this. So we're working closely with Sonoma County Behavioral Health. Runner Park Department of Public Safety and Petaluma Police Department both have a strong interest in creating programs, but right now the county and both Runner Park and Petaluma definitely haven't moved as far as we have in this and they're kind of watching our lead and where we go from this, learning what we do, but we're happy to be the lead agency here in our county moving forward with this and we hope to be able to work collaboratively with these other agencies to potentially see this team expand countywide at some point and I think that helps all of us here in our community whether you live in the city of Santa Rosa or on the outskirts of Santa Rosa and have a countywide team. So that's going to be part of our efforts going forward and hopeful to see that. So that's the, I think we have one more slide there that says my contact information. So for you guys you can, if you have any questions there's my email, there's my desk number and if you have questions later but I'd love just to hear input from your group today and questions or concerns or areas that you would like to advocate for me to research further. Our community members or groups that you like me to speak to on this as we we're still in the building the team phase right now and so this is where your input is really worth its weight in gold. Great, thank you so much for all of that information and thank you for multiple presentations in one day. Appreciate that you kept the energy up for that and bring it now to any questions from our members. I see member Cruz with a hand up. Yes, captain I'm interested in knowing we already got some information about the size of Eugene compared to Santa Rosa but what was the number, do you have any numbers on how many times Kahootz was called and what for mental health or drugs or other types? Yes, you do, okay. Yeah, I was looking at the sheet right here so this is where you have to kind of start diving deep into the data so Kahootz like I said you'll see the generic information that I frequently hear cited in community meetings about hey they went to 24,000 calls with 20% of the calls so that Kahootz kind of creates that misinformation a little bit and they're a non-profit kind of show the things they're doing so you just have to look into the fine print of it that it can bind the two cities so they actually went to 18,000 calls in the city of Eugene that they counted for 2019 that's the last stats that I have from them so but then when you break down the 18,000 calls that you have and they broke it down for me is Kahootz responded to those 985 of those were suicidal subjects so that's pretty impressive to me that they went to they went to so 5600 were public assists and the public assists were more doing follow-up and providing counseling so these weren't necessarily police divert so it says non-emergency where they're responding to counseling and that might be an example of that is a teenage child who's going through some issues at school or maybe getting some bullying and and it wouldn't necessarily be a call that a police officer would go to it's not necessarily someone would be putting something on the mental health hole but it's something that they need some help and a family member doesn't have someone to call so this team is able to provide that resource so they actually went to just over 5600 of those calls throughout the year they went to a number of transports so they did 4700 calls where they transported people to doctors appointments to get meds to do those things so that's another one not a police divert but did a lot and then 5200 welfare checks and those were the hey I haven't heard from my mom or my friend has been to spawn that lately and some of those could actually result so it wasn't clear-cut suicidal subjects those were split out at the end of the day from the data that we got to Eugene they actually diverted 2,822 calls so it's not 24,000 which we hear a lot but still at the end of the day I still think 208 or 2,822 calls didn't go to the police department the police department was able to respond to calls that better suit their needs and for all 2,800 of those I think a better resource went to those so I still think it's a tremendous win but it is important for us to know as the community as for our city council our police leaders that it's not going to be 20% of our calls we actually think here in Santa Rosa that our call volume could be higher because we're going to have a stronger homeless emphasis on our team so I project that our police divert calls will actually be higher here in the city of Santa Rosa than they will be in the city of Eugene especially if we really embrace the team here in our community which I suspect we will and that we do a lot of working with our community partners toward that engagement and education of our community and what this team's capacity is and how it's separate and distinct from the police department so the real number that we should kind of really pay attention to as a 28, 22 right that's actually what they say those were true police diverts and so he said they even give the definition of a police divert so for them it's like a call that was received into the police department dispatch that the police department would normally be dispatched to and instead it was diverted to cahoots and no police unit ever got dispatched to it so there were another so that's 2800 that meet those four prongs there were another let me look at the data 1700 calls so 1723 that cahoots responded to our Eugene police department responded to and then called cahoots for assistance so that's still quite a bit too that they whether it was the man with a gun or whatever the situation is but then they called them after so it's cahoots supplemented quite a bit and I suspect on a lot of those the police resource was able to leave more quickly and be able to turn it over to cahoots so really you could add the 1700 to the 22 that cahoots at least played a key part and helped use less police resources so 2822 is about almost eight a day so if you had the other so that's pretty busy that's pretty busy yeah and I talked to him about and Eugene about hey why don't you guys do more with the homeless because they actually have that and he said honestly even with our cars all day he goes the call stack up like he goes you'll be surprised how quickly especially once the community starts trusting his team so I suspect especially when we first roll out the team with only 10 hours a day and we're working on one of our peak hours I suspect right now it'll be in the afternoon of starting maybe one in the afternoon or so and working at 10 hour but we're working to see what our peak hours are but it's generally that the evening of the afternoon evening time our peak calls for service and one quick question is is this money going to be are they going to be funded out of the police department budget or is it going to be a separate we'll still be working that with council to see where where eventually that's going to come from right now we're working toward looking for as much of the outside funding that we can do these grants and through some of the hospitals and some of the other people who are potentially going to contribute but ultimately it'll be up to council to say do we remove this from the police department's existing budget we we eliminate at 1.1 million dollars from the police department budget this year and the council said hey that may be a possibility of using some of that money to bring back the the do this to form this team but honestly that'll be a conversation as we go into budget priorities and for the city and their discussions that'll be happening starting actually in February so we'll start having those discussions soon and council with some guidance from the city manager's recommendation will make those but we hope to have that in the budget for the new uh 21 uh 22 budget that's going to be coming up for by July in the police department budget you for the city budget i'm talking about but it would be part of the police department as well so the whole to be determined where that actually comes from and council even asked those questions today about and are starting to ponder that at the public safety subcommittee and um they'll have some deep discussions about that there's strong community support of saying hey we wanted to come from the police department budget because we want this to start using last night though we had it went for five hours a staffing study and police department staffing i'm not sure if anyone saw that presentation last night um and we saw a lot of i mean you get for sure different as a polar opinion on that obviously in our in our community but we saw the staffing survey we did an independent staffing study said the police department needed to be at 188 officers by 2022 and currently we're at 177 but two positions have been frozen because of the lagging revenue with measure o so really it's at 175 right now so that was the presentation right now so it's that quandary how do we get some of these resources up but then how also do we fund these supplemental programs so that's going to be a big conversation for city council and i think members of the community are certainly going to have to voice their opinion and guide them in that decision making thanks thank you great thanks for those questions member more hi um thank you so much for your presentation this is super informative um i have four questions um what um in the data that you were reviewing from Eugene what were duplicative counts and or was that called out in terms of the contacts that they made with their homeless population um you know the 28 22 calls that were diverted from the police department were those identified as repeat contacts with the same person that's a great question but no they didn't dive that deep into the data at least the data they gave me it was more just a review of the basic calls that they went on and how many were diverted which was the biggest question for that i was asking them is trying to dive deep into that but quite honestly we see that often like and we have right now if you guys are familiar with the hope team that we have here in Santa Rosa which tries to identify some of the high users of police fire in our hospitals and we have some that that have been used by like in 70 to 100 times a year that have called out the police department or the fire department for minor medical things so i would suspect that for certainly some of these were repeat as they helped to get people in in the services and provide them some of the mental health therapy that they need but they didn't dive deep so i that's something i could follow more up with Eugene and see if they have more of that data but it's not in what they provided me i the reason why i'm asking is as soon as you start getting into those repeat service calls you inevitably start developing a model of case management it you know just because you start to get to know people and you know what their needs are and they become repetitive and that repetitiveness can indicate uh success in um getting them the service they need or not so i think it's it's actually an important um piece of information to have so that you can help understand the success and failure rate in terms of because you would want to reduce those duplicative calls to then bring those numbers down um and kind of thinking about it in terms of kind of case management and thinking about all the other agencies that we have providing outreach case management services who's going to be managing this contract like is it you guys because there's going to be a lot of crossover with um different outreach teams hitting the same clientele and so again the duplicative nature comes up for me in terms of wondering how that if you guys have thought about that that's a good point so that's still something that is going we're going to seeking community feedback on where because today at the public safety subcommittee we got some feedback of hey we don't want this uh the contract through the police department and we don't want them involved with it as little as possible eugene's model is the police department holds the contract and uh they have a police lieutenant who manages it uh but the the important thing to understand the police department isn't involved with the response they were just involved with overall the contract management we're talking about uh in eugene that they do contract emt's to do instead of using the fire department our model would have the fire department involved so i i did talk to the fire chief what about the possibility of housing this under the fire department the contract and that's a big lift for them so that they said well we definitely have to explore that more before they can commit to anything so those are possibilities the other possibilities are us looking at other city departments and and maybe even for the future of us that there could be other city departments that even grow or evolve to meet the needs of this so it's very early to say where it's going to end up and in quite honestly we could see it move uh and maybe we start in the first year with police or fire and then as this program expands and the city of santa rosa expands and we continue to put more resources toward this significant issue we could see um we could see changes with other city departments but nothing definitive at this point i guess is the clear answer great thank you i am um actively interrupting and thank you to member more for allowing this interruption uh i am turning it over actually to member caravan because she has to leave at 7 30 um a little early bar meeting uh and i want to squeeze in her question and then bring it back to member more and i did see member uh akanya have a question after that so i'm keeping track and thank you for for dealing with this juggling around and all the questions thank you co-vice chair graves that's super nice of you to track that and thank you captain cregan um you know this feels and sounds really hopeful um and i'll i just have two questions and it's around culture and capacity building and i'm curious um how if you know how the police department like the officers on the beat how they feel about the program and do they see it as something useful for them that's a good question and it was something that weighed heavily on me when we were first presenting this program because obviously i'm part of the police department and i want to make sure that they're supportive of it and we have very strong support from our chief police renavaro but i started going to the briefings and speaking with the line level officers and at first honestly there is a little bit of hesitation because you know change is tough for anyone uh we're all humans and i think the only fear came from line level officers like well is this going to be used as like an opportunity to cut two million dollars from the police department budget and cut more officers and now we're going our staffing is going to be even worse so really that was the only like really concerned and what i started talking to the officers about is guys like no one became a police officer to say oh i like i'm super excited to go handle this type of little call and stuff like that like this is a this is a uh a group that i think can provide a better service and even our officers understand that this is like so they understand that and they're not gonna they're not fighting and screaming to go into homeless encampments and do some of the engagement are are sometimes i mean sometimes these mental health calls can take hours of we're talking to people providing the resources bringing them to the crisis stabilization unit so for us it was really just doing some like internal education for our officers about what how this is going to actually be and and such an addition to and not necessarily a subtraction from the police department and i think educating on that and so we have pretty strong support and and i think it starts to from our chief of police role modeling that and letting him know that it's something that he's very supportive of and chief navarro is has always had such a strong community interest and it's something that he leads our department with and i and i think that we see the leaders in our department embrace that thank you and it also for me it kind of leads into the idea of um a little bit what member more was talking about in terms of um well i see it as capacity building opportunity so we have a lot of maybe smaller um service providers especially around homeless and possibly you know member more knows some and um that might actually learn um this you know to do this to do this kind of work eventually people who are already doing social work but i guess there are other skills involved in um being on a cahoots team and how that might actually um help shift culture as well around stigma around different ways that you know um people think and so i did have another little question i'm going to throw in there the idea of violence and you know what is the definition and how does you know how do you determine because sometimes people especially when they're intoxicated they might start yelling and it's not necessarily violent but it is but it isn't so i'm curious about that too so did they talk about um violence i'll let you answer that first and then secondly did um Eugene give you any data on the cultural shifts that have come out of like in the community or within the police so the violence one because you're right the the term violence can be pretty subjective about there's many different levels of violence so that'll be something that when we start diving deeper now that we finally signed this contract with whitebird clinic they're going to start sending me all their protocols and we actually have our first meeting next week and then so those will be some of the things we really start diving into is how do they pull apart what is violent and what's not violent and i talked to one of the directors i spent a lot of times with from the whitebird clinic and he's been there for almost 30 years almost since the very beginning and he talked about that sometimes they they even have to at the last minute say you know what this is we're going to back out of this call it's a little bit too much for us but overall they have a very passionate group of people who work with uh with the team and i suspect that's what we'll get here as well and they do put themselves sometimes in risky situations but overall the whitebird clinic has a history of 32 years with no significant injuries and he says they've had some black eyes and they've had some bruises but they've never had anyone killed or are significantly injured there and they work toward just triaging kind of the calls they're going to go to but then knowing when they do have to call the police department and to at least secure the scene so that'll be something that we work closely with our dispatchers in and the current model that if we follow the cahoots model is that'll be the only police involvement is that they get dispatched through our dispatch and cahoots this says it's too problematic and very staff intensive to create your own dispatch center and said and we already have obviously a 24-7 dispatch center and then so many of these calls are 9-1-1 so we don't want to create like another 9-1-1 number just for the mental health it causes a lot of confusion so the calls will still come through the 9-1-1 center the medical calls will go through the separate and distinct red com which is the medical dispatch for the county and then they'll go through what the criteria is and if it meets the criteria for cahoots then our dispatch center will send it out the only police equipment that the team will have is they'll have police radios but they're going to have their own police channel so they won't be on our channel and they'll dispatch them just like the dispatching officer and they'll say hey go to 123 Main Street and if that team needs assistance while on the call they can get on the radio and say hey we need assistance and a uniformed officer can provide them that assistance the cultural shift in Eugene for them it's a little different because they've been doing it for 32 years and it's slowly built up so they they started with just one mental health clinician at 32 years ago and then they expanded they put the EMT to it and then it grew and it grew and it grew so it's just a ball so long so at the lieutenant I talked to he's like well actually almost everyone here we've never known anything without cahoots because most of them are under 32 years of experience so he just said it's part of our agency and he talked about how some of the other cahoots agencies have have expanded and like in different agencies and there was one in Washington and Vancouver Washington has one and that's actually a police administrator who actually moved over to Vancouver and was so proud of the cahoots model started his own there in Vancouver Washington so we hope that it's going to be contagious here in Sonoma County as I already suspect it will be and then we'll see other agencies start to see it's a proven model that works and and start to make changes countywide here great and is that all of your questions great thank you um going back to member more she had a couple more questions for you thank you vice chair graves um I apologize um a captain creeping in that maybe some of my questions could be answered by me just uh Danielle provided some links but I haven't had a chance to really look at them but it seems to me that um two of the primary goals in the work plan that you guys will be developing with cahoots would be to reduce the calls diverted to safety officers responding and therefore reducing their time committed to mental health types of calls and therefore going back to the safety priority but a big thing I'm getting to with what little I did able to look at cahoots is the transportation models that the police department will be taken out of that kind of taxi routine of taking people to the emergency room or other mental health service providers and I just wanted to kind of get am I on the right track with that because the reason why I'm asking is we do have several uh types of these kind of models or not models but a lot of mental health service providers for the homeless population so I keep thinking like well what's different that is filling this gap that we don't already have well I think that you're going to see a significant increase in the level of training and expertise with this team over some of the models that we have now with having licensed mental health clinicians who are going up to 500 hours of training that they're receiving so the level of expertise I think is going to be elevated upon what we're seeing now other than a model like mobile support team which exists but the key barrier to mobile support team is that they require a police response first and that's not what our community wants to see here in Sonoma County and I honestly think uh so it's more than just a transportation it's it's much greater than that I think that's a cool like one of the elements that it brings into the team but the biggest model is it's a team that can uh has the credibility that we can build in the trust of our community to call and when they respond I believe it's going to have an enhanced level of service than what we get when you get a uniform police officer go to the scene so we're going to be able to use the key city organizations and our structures in place with dispatch be able to use like LaGalia and her team with community engagement and so many of our other key factors and the Santa Rosa-Vines-Frenching partnerships have been a key partner with this and it as well and be able to leverage some of those relationships to get the word out Nami Sonoma County and all these groups have able to build that level of trust but they will have this highly trained team that has the component right now so we have nothing right now that exists we're bringing all three of these services together riding in one car so it's a holistic contact of having a mental health commission a homeless outreach and a medical provider we have nothing like that so right now we're calling host out or we're calling one of these other organizations and we're calling the fire department out then we're calling the police department out then we're transporting them across town the crisis stabilization crisis stabilization says we're out of room for them take them back to memorial so they go to the ER memorial in five hours later then an ambulance takes them back to the tribal station so it's a whole it's a disjointed response that isn't given the level of service that we want to provide here so this is going to be able to bring these resources together and we're going to pilot it we're going to see how it works for the first year and we may make some changes after the first year about what we want to do but based on what we're seeing in Eugene and Eugene has the same thing of a fracture of different networks that whether they're doing homeless services or whatever they may be doing but um we have a lot of confidence that we're going to be able to provide a level of service that we've never seen here in the city of Santa Rosa thank you absolutely great thank you for those questions and thank you for your patience member Okanya you're next uh thank you very much for coming and presenting this i'm i think the entire community as just a sample of the entire nation is waiting to see something like this and this is it's an enormous amount of of of hope here in our community so i want to applaud the SRPD for taking the initiative because i know it probably was an enormous amount of work to to get cahoots to bring us on board and i think that the most important thing here that we need to share with the community not only in this group but on a city council on it with the press democrat on a community way basis is letting people know that this was an initiative that the police department started because the most important thing is to as far as the community visibility of this program is to let people know that um that the police really want to take some of this take some of this unnecessary uh interaction with community members and appoint it to people that are are better able to handle it so and the reason that i i say this i just as a little bit of background i'm actually a court appointed conservatory guardian so i'm a licensed uh national certified guardian and i have an enormous amount of experience in 5150s for example i take on a lot of conservatorships that come through the public guardians office and um not a lot of people understand what what goes on on the ground when it when a police officer encounters somebody who ends up on ends up in a 5150 so we they have to talk to the entire they have they're constantly filling phone calls from family members trying to find out who is the responsible party or if there's anybody willing to step in and if there is nobody then they're ending up calling the public guardians office and the public guardians office is completely overwhelmed with the with um this engagement trying to find a place for folks and so folks end up in the emergency rooms because there isn't anywhere else to take them and so um i i think that bringing on a program like cahoots is going to not only alleviate um a lot of attention in the community but it's also going to alleviate an enormous amount of um of i would just say strife for for our police officers on the ground because you're gonna have people who have a lot of experience working with the public guardian working with buckaloo working with uh with patients who do end up having to be um having to have these these guardianships placed on them um my my only i don't really have a question i just wanted to make a comment about case management i thought member moore had a lot of really um important points to make that there are a lot of other community organizations but there's an enormous amount of government organizations that um should absolutely be involved in this program sonoma county behavioral health for example and um a ps for example adult protective services most of my clients are elderly and and covid for example is causing enormous strife for people and there um we're getting a lot of phone calls from aps so people who are having mental health crises breakdowns um the uh oh and then so with regards to the emt's and this will be my last comment um i think it's wonderful that the fire department is you know hopefully going to be involved i'm hoping that these the statewide legislation is going to bring more fire department personnel into our area because we need them not just for their emt services but for fire danger and so if we do have this extra personnel and the funding for them i think this will be a wonderful opportunity to engage their services um at you know at a deeper community level but i think it would also be important to consider um some of the the nonprofit medical providers that are in the area there's a group called h piece for example that was a big part of the black lives matter protests they are physicians and nurses who work in area hospitals who donate their time to um you know obviously they they were part of the protests and and making sure that protesters were safe and taking care of themselves and um dealing with injuries that happened during that time but they also donate their time to situations like this and uh and then also regional parks i was a lifeguard for eight years and we were all emt's and none of us had jobs from labor day through memorial day so you've got a lot of resources in the community where people are emt's that i think could fill in that gap of the fire department if that doesn't work out and so um anyways just to to to finalize that thank you very very much i'm really excited to see srpd initiating this even if it doesn't stay with the press with the with the police department i hope that we can um get it out there into the community that was this was something that was initiated by our um safety officers and i'm really looking forward to seeing uh the tension lower a little bit in the community with regards to that thank you absolutely thank you thank you for great comments and a question in there i did not know some of the information that you were bringing forward so thank you so much for that you did see member harper bring his hand up i believe yes um thank you thank you um captain green i want to agree with uh member akanya about uh you guys showing the initiative to bring us to our community i think it's very important and um i think um all the comments and recommendations that i heard from the public cohoots i kept hearing cohoots cohoots and um had to do a little research on my own uh to figure out what that what cohoots was so so i appreciate doing all this research and bringing it um to where we are um i'm curious uh in that vein um have uh what have you had a lot of response from the public in terms of where you are in terms of bringing codes in um that process have people been excited about it what they you know do they know you know this is ongoing and it's going to happen well that's actually kind of our big next stage so the last six months we've been really working on is it even possible to bring it to our community of researching because i was like you actually so in june i i had never heard of cohoots and uh community members started bringing it forward and it came up repeatedly and then so we started researching and i started looking across and when i first presented the council i presented a couple different models that they have one in san mateo has a little bit different model and uh san diego has the perk team which is a little bit different and uh san antonio texas so we looked at all these different models and i really started studying it and um then our city council tasked us with starting really examining we want to go toward a cohoots style model and see is it possible what are going to be the cost for us do we have local nonprofits that have the capacity so that's where we've kind of been in the last six months and the big heavy lifts has been getting cohoots on board so now that we have them one of their deliverables and their contracts is to help us with some community engagement and be able to start doing some engagement and we'll be working with so they're going to help us do some like zoo meetings and that's where we're going to be meeting with some stakeholders from the local hospitals from aurora from uh behavioral health here like getting all these key stakeholders and the list will go along with them and then asking them hey you guys are kind of the subject matter experts at least you deal with these in each of your different avenues more and then we'll do some community ones so we'll work with key community partners like you've been Sam about use leveraging some of your networks in roseland and and being able to um provide that not only for the education piece but for the what do we need piece and and to make sure that our team meets the needs of our community and and I honestly want that continued so we have an optimistic goal of going live with this team by july to august of this summer so that's it's pretty quick uh for what we have to do and we'll see it might only be the one team at first for four days a week but what our goal is by this summer to be able to have the seven day week coverage with the 10 hour shifts but then the engagement can't stop there because we need to continue to educate our community and what this team is how they can be trusted how they're separate and distinct from the police department what their level of training and expertise is so that's how we're going to get that team to be used and I worked with mobile support team when I was a sergeant actually when it first we first started the mobile support team and I was a sergeant assigned to that team and we had people regularly start calling the Santa Rosa police 911 saying I just want the mobile support team I don't want the cop I want mobile support team to come and they were disappointed that that wasn't the structure that the county had put in place but I actually took it as a win that they they were building trust with that mobile support team and what we would do is have officers just go there and just make sure it wasn't chaotic and we quickly just turn it over to the mobile support team and kind of let them take the lead on it um but there are a lot of hurdles with mobile support team like they don't transport they just put people in the 51 50s we discussed which is like the legal term for a mental health code for 72 hours so really this is going to be a big step forward from the mobile support team and and I think the next big thing for us is getting behavioral health on board and you know like all of us like county government it moves slower even than city government so like it's going to take a while to get all these things going but there's strong support from the county board of supervisors and our county really came together by getting the county measure oh measure passed in november which is going to be focused on some mental health and homeless responses so that's going to help supplement them and that's another revenue source that i'll be looking toward for our team as well since we're the county seed and and something that i'll be and i've already started some conversations with the county on that okay but i just want to say that it seems like uh everything moves faster during this cold time to me so i think i think it could happen this summer now the big hurdle now is going to be getting the staff hired and especially the mental health clinician part so we have the homeless outreach services in place it's going to be getting four so we're going to have to get that that team of four of the mental health clinicians and that's going to be our big left i'm working with buckloo though and they already have a lot of services and then working with gahoots to say what is the level of training that we have to have their minimum level of training before they can hit the street and then making sure that they reach that threshold so that's going to be our heavy lift and then also working with the um the medical side but that was a great idea i i never thought about the age force that you mentioned so that might be something that we could explore looking about some of these alternative and that's why i love these meetings tonight that i feel like i can do something to educate you guys but i leave every meeting with education on some of these things and i think we can make our program better with some of this feedback so we'll look at some of those things and look at the the hps and look at some of those things and um and regional park we work very closely with them like with the whole drover doder trial and stuff so i have some key connections over there so that's not a bad idea i can i can call one of my friends over there and see look into that resource great um like count me in for any support that i can give so that i'm making this happen well thank you vince vince doesn't have enough meetings to go to so i'll do one more for this always a good resource uh any other questions from members yes uh member insensitive thank you so uh i guess to start thank you for presenting this to us um i'm very interested in this i think it's a great program and i'm excited to see how it's going to turn out the one thing that i want to uh kind of mention is you know given the our high latino population here in in Santa Rosa can there be a a kind of a way to make sure we hire bilingual staff for kind of the mental health clinicians because i think that would be key um you know i have a lot of family members who are monolingual Spanish speakers and that that'll be a key to really gaining trust in the entire community of Santa Rosa so that's my first question it can that be incentivized in any way or can that be a focus that's certainly going to be a priority and that actually came up with our council members today and they and they wanted to ensure that that was our priority and that's going to be something that we're working with buckaloo and we understand that's a key part of our community here in Santa Rosa that we want to be able to provide the services to so we'll make sure through our nonprofit that that's a priority and that's something that nomi Sonoma County is really putting some additional resources with some bilingual staff that they're hiring and some of the classes are now doing fully in in Spanish too so we're going to work with nomi continuing to be a really critical partner with us in this and providing some of these long-term services but i i envision our team as as certainly have and our goal would be one day to have each one of our teams having a bilingual representative on that team to be able to assist but if not we'll be able to use some of the city resources we have of using like the translation line and I know that isn't as perfect but they'll be able to tap into some of the city resources we have that still be able to provide that service thank you and then I guess the next question I had was in terms again of that community engagement I think it would be great if there could be one once a program starts if there could be some sort of like community policing aspect to it where the cahoots team or whatever the name as a being goes into perhaps um homeless encampments or just places where where there's more activity just to to show the community that would be you know it's it's something that's being proactive and it's something that the police department and this program is actively engaging so that's just a comment but then finally one last question I had is in the cahoots program when people call 911 can they specifically request a cahoots response team yes something similar okay so I hope they will and I and I really think that will start happening frequently so they'll still have to evaluate our dispatcher doesn't meet the criteria whether no violence or weapons so they'll still ask those questions but when it clears that threshold and certainly and a lot of times that's what it is a family member calling saying hey my young son is in a he's bipolar and he's in a manic state I need some assistance he's not violent we deal with him but he's I can tell he's starting to ramp up that's the perfect call cahoots will go to it a police officer never responds they decide whether they put them on a mental health hold or maybe it's providing them some resources outside of a hold and they'll be able to handle that and it'll be a true police divert and they'll start building the relationships and they'll start like we talked about you're going to start seeing these repeat calls and the and that team will build relationships and help people because uh whether you're in a mental health crisis or not we all go through highs and lows and and certainly you see uh members of this community go through those go through those lows and that's when the family members were able to use this resource well thank you very much absolutely great thank you for that and I'm looking for any other questions um I don't see any uh Captain Cregan thank you so much for your presentation and answering all those questions my only um question was I had two you already answered one around your timeline that is extremely ambitious and I can't think of anybody better to head this I loved your relationship being on the NAMI uh board of directors and and having a close relationship with that organization because they bring so much to our community and um my my full question though has a little bit to do with that um fact that Kahootz has been around in Eugene, Oregon for 32 years and has had that ability to ramp up you know from one service provider to having a whole team and here we are um trying to put this program out there pretty quickly you said that one of the biggest turtle would be to hire staff and I always think that a huge hurdle is that community engagement and educating the community um I did sit in just a tad bit today during your presentation at the public safety subcommittee and I did hear for that public comment um some of the hesitancy and some of the fears that come about um in a program like this and uh bringing about a full pledge a full pledge program uh at this time during not only a pandemic but during um our our current state of affairs that are happening nationally and locally so um with that uh having to build trust and and tell people about how to use it and the knowledge base and and whatnot is there any program uh that has started since the summer in another jurisdiction that is like Kahootz that we could draw more of a parallel than just drawing a parallel to the Kahootz program that started 32 years ago yeah so actually part of the reason for the delay is Kahootz first went with Rochester New York so they actually just finished kind of getting their program off the ground Rochester I've never been there but actually I googled them when he told me that so they have a population about 200,000 there uh so that's one program that's just getting off the ground and um they worked with some other agencies they did some work with Denver Police Department that was starting even before um our social justice movement and um but Rochester is the one they most recently did Vancouver Washington started once several years ago so they have several across the nation right now at least those those the ones that are there that are actually modeled off of Kahootz uh so I'm going to be contacting Rochester PD and find out who their contact is over there because he just told me that this week when he went up we finalized the contract I had several meetings but somebody told me about Rochester so I'm going to reach out to them and um try to learn from them and I've had some talks with San Diego Police Department that has a little bit different in San Antonio and some of the different ones across the nation in Denver Police Department I've talked to them as well so I'm trying to kind of glean about what are they're doing each one's a little uniquely different ours will be a little uniquely different of adding the third person the homeless outreach uh specialists of several of the other ones are to focus more on the mental health but uh for us we see that like such a big part of our community need is providing better services to some of our homeless members in our uh in our town and we see that um as a strong community desire and our hope is to be able to use this team to eliminate these large homeless encampments that we're able to do that proactive outreach before they get that big and then certainly we work as a city to have more uh supportive housing for our homeless community I don't know how all of us reach that goal and you've seen a lot of progressive steps for that in the last year but frankly we've got quite a long ways to go. Great thank you so much um for having so much knowledge and information and being able to pull up Rochester New York that was really beautiful um I feel even more confident and excited about the program knowing that uh another program has started up during this time when I think uh more than just the people that will be provided these types of services the whole community may be engaged in this process and have questions and concerns and fears and and excitement all at the same time and you have large shoulders to have to deal with all of that so thank you um and now without any other questions from our members uh we would be handing it over to any public comment I believe. There are currently no hands raised for public comment on item 7.1. Great thank you for that um without any other uh questions or concerns from our members we want to just thank you once again for coming here spending so much of your time with us for bringing all of this information to us and hopefully we can be good ambassadors out in the community bringing some of this information out to to those that might have questions as well so uh thank you so much. Absolutely thanks for having me and if you have questions later that you couldn't think of you can email me or call me at any time and then also if you have resources okay I really would like you to speak with this community group or this group you think whether it be the medical side or the homeless side and have us explore getting other groups involved just let me know and we're just we're still developing the teams are no final decisions have been made and your input is critical at this point so the more input the better and other groups that you know that wants a presentation I'm more than having any time to help present and kind of spread the word on this uh team that we have coming together thank you great um we are moving on at this time to our next agenda item which is 7.2 a discussion on city presentations to the cab and other cab responsibilities uh Danielle do you want to share so far um so this this item actually came up at our expertise subcommittee meeting and member more actually was the one who uh did a really great job of bringing the question up and and phrasing the question so I might have to ask her to to weigh in here but basically what the what the concern was um at that subcommittee meeting was really around cabs roles and responsibilities and then department presentations so we tend to get a lot of requests coming to the cab um from other city departments uh to present their program service whatever it is basically to check the box right yeah we went to the cab uh yes we got cabs feedback on this um but it the information might be useful but there isn't a whole lot of action like call to action for the cab um and so um what it what the concern was was that it's really um kind of moving into time that cab members could be using on the agenda to um talk about issues of concerns of of their particular cab areas or from their neighborhood groups community groups that they're part of that there doesn't there hasn't been a whole lot of time uh to do that over the last couple of years because we've had so many department presentations with that said Jason Nutt who is one of our assistant city managers and also the director of transportation and public works uh he came to me a couple weeks ago and said hey I need to present to the cab in February or March on the city's capital improvement programs budget priorities and I know that sounds super fun and exciting um what it really means is um capital improvement program is the city's infrastructure program um and in the city charter and associated resolutions for the cab the cab actually has historically had a role in gathering community feedback on budget priorities each year for the infrastructure program um there we've done town halls we've done open uh community open houses uh then we started utilizing neighbor fest obviously nothing really happened last year because we were in the middle of a pandemic we couldn't go out to the community to gather this feedback um and so he's come to me this time wanting to present to the cab on the capital improvement program and budget priorities uh a is it informational but then also to gather that uh those budget priority pieces because it's part of the city charter however he is willing to uh forego that presentation if the cab would like because I did uh relay some of the concerns about these department presentations um so he's leaving it up to the cab to decide whether or not they would like to have that presentation if so it does have to take place next month or March in addition to that I also um utilizing the future agenda items uh agenda item from last month's uh meeting I did reach out to Jenny Lynn Holmes from Catholic Charities to see if she would be able to come uh to the cab soon to do a presentation on the the 2020 homeless count uh summary and the Caritas Village update um which was requested by cab members so those would be adding presentations to the agenda again taking away from the ability to have these um more in-depth conversation on conversations on uh issues of concern of city residents that you're hearing uh you know when you're out and about in the community uh bringing that back to the cab for discussion and kind of like how do we move forward with those issues or concerns um and I think I covered it all but Carly um whether you are uh jump in again if I missed uh any of your question or your concern around that and then I wanted to turn it back over to the cab to have a discussion around this how do you want to move forward with your agendas this year are you still wanting to have those departments presentations obviously this last one was very useful um it's addressing an issue that is very very important to the community right now um do you want to still have those presentations do we want to make more room on the agenda to start talking about these these other issues and concerns um and then it also actually kind of runs into what are the cab's priorities for this year um which also led to a discussion around maybe we should look at our strategic plan again uh soon and start looking at okay what really makes sense for the cab at this point so we're still here in this virtual world not able to have events probably not again this year uh neighbor fest will be suspended again for this year unfortunately um until we're really um in a much better place to start having larger gatherings so with that said I'm going to turn it back over to Vice Chair Graves and the rest of the cab to have this discussion thanks yeah thank you for that and I um before we get into maybe discussion questions uh number more did you have more clarity around that yeah thank you not so much um more clarity just more um Danielle actually summarized my my question and thought on that that topic really well um just thinking about how valuable our time is as volunteers and the people that come out for public comment or um messages and issues that we bring from our neighborhoods or other groups um those you know we're just I know we're a formal board but it's just hard to get kind of organic issues talked about and um thinking about our agenda there's rarely any room on the agenda so just really looking at how we're prioritizing our time I know we have some requirements through the charter um but if we're going to hear these presentations I'm just wondering if we should have sort of you know a three bullet action plan that we go okay we just heard from Captain Krieger let's what are we going to do now like that was very informative to me and I'm going to take it back to my contacts but it still feels kind of limited it's just a comment and in terms of our strategic plan and um being really stymie to engage our community person to person which is was in my opinion a strength we had especially with neighbor fest um and we've completed several of our strategic plan goals to the point where we've been able to kind of close out the um operations subcommittee and those subcommittee members have now merged with expertise and I know empowerment's still working on a lot of really important things and I just wanted to bring up the idea of kind of doing some annual planning like kind of modeling after the city council's school setting I know they have a big process and a much broader scope but maybe you know we have new members coming on with some ideas of oh I'm going to join the cab and I was appointed with for my council person and I I've got this agenda coming in so where does that go you know and you know sometimes it could be diverted to another community area depending on what the goal is there might be a better fit for it just on an educational wise for a new person but maybe some of those goals rest with us and we entertain at least entertain incorporating them somehow into an annual or a more short term basis to see what we can do to maybe not complete it depending on what it is but maybe support it forward in some capacity so I just kind of want to shake up the strategic plan and do a little bit of a revisit and look at how we're spending our time so that's my flesh out from what Danielle laid out to you guys thank you any comments around that more discussion or just a point of clarification so is that two different proposals one to say let's look at the long term and then also look at the short term agenda by agenda or is that all the same thing my thought I think there might be kind of two prongs you know the strategic plan might need to be looked at because we've completed goals and we're in covid still and may need to shift those goals and then maybe through that process take into consideration how we respond and or incorporate more immediate topics so they have a space to be talked about and considered not necessarily acted on but at least considered oh I was just gonna say that I can I like the idea of both um looking at the strategic planning and also looking at the individual agenda as their way we can rework our agendas so that we can we can get those important department presentations because I think that ever ever since I've been on a cat and those have been kind of key informational points for cad members to be able to take back to the communities and then but can we work somewhere in the agenda where we we have something concrete at each agenda where we have this time where we can do this and it's maybe very specific maybe a member member has something that they put on the agenda specifically that they wanted to talk about from last month or in a previous period and then we dig a little bit deeper on that one so I'm I'm I'm good for that I want to I want to jump in and get a little history because I feel like having new members on board and I feel really really guilty I have to say this out now I'm gonna talk about feelings a little bit about member foster and we talked a little bit I think it was last meeting about coming on board and he was a new member during during COVID during this virtual meeting format and now we have two more members that are coming on board during a virtual meeting format and so I want to step back and my my stepping back is only to my knowledge and my memory is that I came on board in November and December about in 2019 and since that time I don't believe that we talked about this that we don't think we've had a strategic plan talked about except maybe in a subcommittee where we've been over the past strategic plan nor have we talked about action items and I also want to recognize and acknowledge that since the time that I've been on we went into COVID and we stopped meeting or that we met one of our last meetings in 2020 we only had two we had one in January and February of 2020 and then we didn't have another meeting I believe until July I want to say so we're I want to I want to say that before we head on to more discussion because I want to kind of frame this discussion in that time period maybe because I feel guilty for member foster who isn't here and how he maybe there wasn't on boarded in a way that was great and I want to acknowledge that we're on boarding two more members and having a member shift and a turnover in this time where maybe we haven't been following past structures of the cab as well and timelines and formats and and we're up against this kind of disconnected way of doing things but we still want to push forward and I want to really commend member more for pushing us forward in a way that makes us look at this so so that's what I wanted to say right there and then hopefully we want to have robust robust discussion if possible around this because I think it's warranted one thing that I will say that I have that I have thought about you know along along the lines of orientation and on boarding is that next month I will be taking a part of the agenda just let everybody know to do an actual cab orientation because we are you know we have two new members now but more than likely by this time next month we will have like at least a couple more new members so almost half of our board will be brand new and for the rest of you it'll be a nice friendly reminder or maybe you'll learn something you didn't know so um that will take place for sure next month so that everybody is receiving the same information will be utilizing the orientation packet that the expertise subcommittee committee created um and maybe that will spark some additional discussion then around setting some priorities for this new year and then updating the strategic plan also in that vein we um I think it stemmed from a conversation at the greater cab but we also kind of dove into talking about mentors and having some of the more veteran time-wise cab members provide advisements and training some connectivity to maybe assign each other to support each other and help on board and welcome new members and to be able to have maybe some more in-depth conversations about why they joined and what they're hoping to achieve and that sort of thing um so I just wanted to also put that out there that um we we did put some thought into that and one of our subcommittee assignments is to think about like a position and what that would look like um because it would you know we did a big time study again volunteer board and really wanting to be transparent with recruiting new members about the time commitment especially when we are meeting in person um that this is a really robust time commitment and perhaps mentorship would add on to that but I feel like the value that that could provide back um could help some longevity um you know I know we all have terms but just and we move on for different reasons um but kind of addressing perhaps some dissatisfaction or or thinking it's something that then it's not if we had some mentorship to take to supplement what Danielle does we could very early on help orientate people to what what we're doing um so that so that's a discussion we're also having crews thank you and I want to say member crews um people you did go in there that I always really appreciate your historical knowledge of um the cab and what you bring to the cab and um and so I'm looking forward to what you have to say and that was going to be historical but I have to say chair Barnett and Vince and Cecile were here before me but I'm kind of one of the senior um cab members um but I I just remember that we I don't want to disregard or minimize their strategic plan because we spend a lot of time on that and a lot of money and um I would like it to be uh continue to be um important to cab to look at it to re-examine it and keep it there as or as a guiding tool um I I would hate to see that it be reworked again again I know it's going to be tweaked and reprioritize or you know you got to put your you always have to reevaluate and and make sure you're meeting the needs of the community and but that was um a big thing we did and it was something that we hadn't done before we we contracted with the uh agency out of San Francisco if I'm correct Daniel and we spent time on it and I just don't want it to go to waste and it's a good foundation if anything to help us um stay on task and it's there as a tool but that's my historical tidbit for the day thank you I did I didn't mean to put you on the spot with that I just you seem to always have these these nuggets of wisdom so thank you um any other input on this I think this is uh okay Chair Burnett thank you for jumping in there I finally had the unmute um and then I also think that Carly had a follow-up um so two things uh uh in previous meetings so member Roberts had brought up uh what can we do as a board that is in the era of COVID still to a to do more authentic community engagement and to work as a board expertise has talked about the mentorship program I know from my work one of the things I can put out to any member of the board is that bicycling believe it or not is a safe activity you can do a group ride so if any members of this board want to get together and have a one-on-one and you want to go bike your neighborhood with me I'm Vince is like right Vince and I used to ride together quite a bit we would ride at the meetings so I will put it out to the board as far as mentorship mentorship you know I'm 100 you guys want to connect up and do a ride in and around your neighborhood there's issues of concern things about that you want to identify and work out I'm 100 down with that in regards to the strategic plan um and then also I mean strategic plan me at limpathon the one thing I think Carly that you have brought up is the cinnamon county human rights commission report and that was the big discussion that we had in expertise that that report we're still kind of in a holding pattern from waiting on city council for guidance on when that report can come to the board but as a board last year it was the first time in I don't know how other than our grants program that we had direct action from the community we had several individuals from all over the city that came to our meeting specifically to talk about that report coming to our board because it was a priority coming from the community in a response to the protests and we're kind of in a holding pattern around and I think that was part of the discussion that came into expertise about this is how do we you know that we have a major issue that has come forward from the community and we've been given a direct ask from the community and we're in a holding pattern I think Magali and Danielle can kind of give us an update on the city and where they are in the process and I completely understand both sides but that the city you know things have to come in a timeline but that was I think one of the things is that we have departments that come to us and check the cab box and we have this community request that we've been kind of in a holding pattern on and so I think that was part of the challenge that we're facing as a board is how are we able to do authentic community engagement and be responsive to this request that came in July and we are kind of waiting right now and also letting those constituents know when it's going to come to the cab when they're going to have an opportunity to provide a public comment on it and then as a board what do we do once the report is presented that was kind of that's two-sided so that I think was the other piece of the discussion that Carly was we talked about an expertise and if you want to add to that yeah I did see so remember more did give us a some information in the chat bar that the strategic plan was designed with a three-year work plan and that is now that three years is over to revisit and keep the plan going so and then I see member also yeah thank you um so this would just kind of be a little bit of advice for our new members but also a reminder for our veteran members um one of the most important parts about being on this board is that we are supposed to be voicing what we're hearing out in the community and bringing it back to the board so hearing these I love the presentations I think they're fantastic they're a little long which means that it takes up time for and and the reason how long is because we all have really great questions so you know just being mindful of how much time we're taking in that question space so that we have extra time to discuss other issues going on in the community but I think that in joining this board we take on a responsibility to bring agenda items to Danielle so if you are hearing things that are going on in the community that need response or need clarification I think it's our responsibility to bring those to us and get them on the agenda even if it's we're not having presentations it's just putting something onto the agenda that we should be discussing so for example the the painting the hand black in front of the mall right that was something that I came to Danielle and said this was a huge event that happened in Santa Rosa we need to hear about it um I'll be frank I don't think that our art our art um staff city staff member um I think she tried to be very non-controversial which you know kind of flattened the conversation a little bit but I totally understand uh where that came from but on the on the the the opposite side of the conversely from that when chief Navarro came to our presentation and we had all of those people we had like 27 members from the community it's not because because we knew that the human rights report was going to happen I'll I'll be completely honest I went on several chat uh activist organizations when I saw the agenda when I came onto the meeting and I told dozens of people that he was on there and that's why an enormous amount of people came to the meeting so in moving forward you know I don't even want to leave I want to be here because I want to see I want to hear both of these next presentations you know and I wish I had a ton of time to participate um but I think in in going forward it's really our responsibility to bring these issues that we're hearing out into the community for um forward into cab and then allowing it to organically allowing that to organically um create action or create presentations or create um you know the the kind of community connection with government entities that it was lacking before so that's my two cents great two cents it might actually be three um so thanks for that uh and yeah that was a great discussion um during the summer and um and having so many uh community members come and I think that community members were really engaged at that time and and and I think that will continue with really great topics and things that are really pertinent to um to these I was surprised to not see community members here tonight with um with the presentation about the kukus program but I think that's because there were a number of community members at the public safety subcommittee meeting so um that was going to take care of uh this afternoon you know it's a hard meeting to go to it's at one o'clock in the afternoon it's not extremely um conducive to to different work schedules and whatnot but then again there's the pandemic and some of us have more time on our hands so um any other bits of information um and uh love the bike ride idea and thanks for that and the um also just you know I mean I want to I want clarification for myself as well uh how many of us can can can talk offline um is it two is it three uh it depends on how many people are in um the cab like so Chair Barnett said oh we could go on a one-on-one oh good she go on a one-on-two that was a bike ride how does that work just clarification for that please so a quorum of the board is uh 50 plus one so that's eight members so you guys are good if you keep it under eight um if you do get together you know to go for a bike ride obviously you're going for a bike ride right I would expect that you would not talk about board items while on your bike ride um so just keep that in mind uh don't do that please and thank you thank you thanks for the clarification how many people can fit in the low rider that's what I want to know and we get we can't get hate so we must be good it's not a mini cooper low rider it's a it's a big ol sedent right we can get it okay it's a crown vic i'm not riding in the trunk it's to be clear you could if you wanted to so just a a temperature read here it sounds like we're heading toward a revisiting of the strategic plan is that nothing it's a good thing I'm not telling jokes folks just for my just for me and and uh just so that I know how to move forward with the agenda I think that's for me is most important right now um do we have uh jason nut come talk about public infrastructure and the budget priorities um like I said you know there's a couple of different presentations coming up I'm gonna have to spread them out we're not going to be able to do them all next month or we'll be here until midnight um so you know what uh what do we want to do about presentations number one and like I said he is totally fine with not having to do that presentation to the cab he will just let council know hey we we didn't do it this year because of the pandemic uh and then two um do you want me to make a special place on the agenda under scheduled items to where maybe it's a placeholder that it's there if we need it uh to where if there's an issue that comes up that a member wants to bring to the board we can do it during that agenda time yeah I see one thumbs up I I feel like for Robert's rules of order do we can it do we have this state on the agenda that it's an it's only a discussion item nothing can well not that we really take a lot of action but right yeah it would probably be one of those items where you because it's an open-ended agenda item discussion only oh and then does that allow us for a public comment oh yes absolutely okay so we have some input here from chair Barnett but I also saw before your input um member incincio uh you had your hand up yeah um just regarding kind of uh if we are looking at the strategic plan what what does that really mean in terms of timeline and you know they're going to be something that we're head up with for the next three four five meetings or something just curious yeah that's a very good question actually um because strategic planning does take time uh however however we already have the foundation and last year we did do um uh kind of a an analysis of like what we've already done what's already been checked off and and since then we haven't really done much other than me because all of the work the cab generally does is out in the community right and we haven't been able to do that so we can definitely bring that that analysis back forward but then also bring in new concerns that are coming up for the community including uh pandemic uh and recovery from the pandemic uh issues around racial equity social justice in the community um and then some of this work too obviously that the community is really calling for around um you know police department reform or or reinvesting in other areas of the community I guess um so I don't think that it has to take a long time because we already have those pieces in place but we should create sort of a timeline so we don't end up spending an entire year on it um or six months on it thank you and then I I did have another comment as well that I would like to see the presentation by by Jason not um since it is you know part of our in the charger it's one of our must-delivery yeah I want to do that yeah we do have with that both chair Barnett and member Moore are giving agreement with the capital improvement program budget presentation um and my question would be for the strategic plan and I'm good with seeing that presentation as well in our next meeting before I go with my question isn't this the city um goal setting is happening in mid-February so um we would be getting that presentation in our cab meeting at the end of February right after um some really like two or three meetings around goal setting by the council correct yeah so it wouldn't I could probably fit it into the orientation if we have that information by by that meeting if not that we would have to wait until March the March meeting um so there's not I don't think there's any rush either in revising a strategic plan um that can be a process for the longer term goals I think what might be more beneficial for the cab is to really look at for this year what are your priorities and that'll probably come from the council's goal and priorities setting session and the question on that um and the strategic our strategic plan is taking a look at it is there a possibility that we we could take a look at it initially in our subcommittees and divide that out a little bit and then bring it back together is that is that a possibility yes that's how we did it last year before the pandemic hit so we can pick that back up again in our subcommittees is there any other comments questions input it looks like that's about it so it looked it sounded if I'm correct um I'm also looking at what chair Barnett um are you just giving some information and chat and did you did you need this brought I'm just sharing with the new members when um by the cip so if you go on the city website and go under what does the cab do right off the top there's some answer and stuff and so that's part of the reason why I'm advocating for the cip presentation is it does fall into our charter but also if you go to the cab's website you can see right off the bat that it's kind of on our top tiers um that all being said I completely understand the challenge of are the presentations meaningful for us as a board and are there actions that we can take with them in the past when Jason has presented I will say historically we have had a more action focused opportunity within the agenda so he hasn't just brought the presentation before in years past we actually made recommendations on different cip projects and prioritizations and saw them come into fruition so I want to give that historical context of that we have had a long time working relationship with this department and in different ways we've had you know very involved projects including like neighborhood roads and and going to the council for recommendations on can we do a fast allocation for these specific projects and trying to do some real repairs and doing some real neighborhood engagement in these areas that cab is like looked at on maps and made prioritizations and it happened so I can say I can see both sides of it as far as yes there are some department projects and presentations that don't necessarily align but I've always felt like Jason comes to the board with an interpretation as taking a little tiny bit right there at the end but I think we've got it so so it sounds like in February if I'm hearing this all correctly that we would put the capital improvement program budget on the agenda and we would do some onboarding I'm getting a yes from Danielle so I think that concludes it for us if there's any public comment there I know hand raised for public comment thank you and we're moving on to agenda item 7.3 which is recognition of service to community advisory board members and Danielle you are up once again I believe no it's just my meeting today I guess um so I wanted to take just a few moments to recognize some cab members that left the board within the last year but also recognize two members that are are leaving us and that would be member Ocanya and member Cruz so I know member Ocanya you actually you brought it up during cab announcements but member Cruz did you want to say anything before I go into my little spiel here? um I just have mixed emotions I mean I all those topics make me want to stay on but I did finish my term and I feel really good about the new members that are coming on and I just feel like it's changed a lot since I first came and I feel I made relationships and friendships with people like and when I see you out in the community I'm definitely going to say hi and chat it up with you and I might become your next Duane DeWitt I don't know um I would have an opinion on something so I might be out there on the attendees list at some point giving my two cents so um I just it was a great learning experience and an opportunity to know more about how the city operates and um I love the city I've lived here for over 40 years raised all my kids here my grandkids I live here and um I I would hope that um that as I've gotten older I'm kind of representing a different demographic than I always thought of myself I'm very immature in my mind but I'm older and I hope that I can see um an older age group I guess or people on cab because there's a lot of wisdom there and um they have a that old saying that you know stories remain the same just the names change and sometimes you know um we've lived life and so we've been around and you know sometimes we're like going didn't we do this before or didn't we you know it just seems like a big circle but I wish you all luck and it was just a wonderful experience and um it's sad to go but um I feel like there's just great people out there that can be on this board so thank you for letting me know so real quickly uh I just wanted to again say thank you for your service with the cab you've been with us for three and a half years uh one of our more senior members at this point um and just a couple of memories that I have well first of all um I think I may have mentioned this once but I through through getting to know Veronica um during her time with the cab um we both realized that we had a personal connection uh her son it was one of my like really good friends in junior high and I didn't realize it until one day she was talking about him like wait and then and I was talking about my mom she's like wait I know your mom and I know your family and you guys used to drive my son to school every day so that was really cool um to be able to make that connection um and then and one of my favorite memories um that that we had was going door to door um for one of our community meetings on homelessness and one of the encampments and we got to go door to door and talk to people and that was just it was really interesting you know people um were so thankful that there there was a group of people coming around letting them know about this meeting that was coming up and they got a chance to air some of their concerns about the encampment in their neighborhood and um so that was a really that really fun and we we bonded over the fact that um we both share a love for low riders um you got to see my my husband's car and and we talked about that too so I will miss you but thank you again for all of your work with the cab um and then uh member Ocanya I've known you forever we've known each other since kindergarten we used to have sleepovers all the time uh so we'll always have that connection but thank you I know that this has been a weird year you've been with us for a full year now um and you hit the ground running with a first couple of meetings and then all of a sudden we were behind a computer so um I wish I wish we were able to get you out into the community and do a lot more engaging because you're awesome at what you do and I just want to thank you for all of your input and all of your um your insightful uh feedback you know for city departments and your advocacy for those who really don't have a voice um you bring that to the table so thank you yay and and feel free cab members jump in if you want to say anything or clap thank you Ben thanks guys I really enjoyed it I didn't you know I wish I could stay on and I I'm so excited about um member Inocencio and member Baldenegro and the new people that you guys have coming on I think this is going to be a fantastic year for you and I hope you get to go out into the community because I think that's probably going to be the best part yeah so I do want to quickly say and I'm hoping to be able to um get it together to organize this better for a future meeting um maybe when Jenny Lynn comes to talk to us we can surprise her um but there were a couple members that did leave us last year and we didn't have the opportunity to actually do this for them and thank them um so I just want to quickly recognize them but hopefully we can bring them back to do it more formally Jenny Lynn Homes was with a cab for six years and I just want to point that out she uh was very tireless in her community engagement effort she was always the the fun uh bright energy that would come to in person tabling events and sometimes a little hard to corral to get her back to the booth because she just wanted to be everywhere talking to everyone um so she left uh right before we started uh meeting again virtually and so hopefully we can get her back she will be coming back to do some presentations for us so um we can uh we can thank her when she comes back um Danny Shaparo his last meeting was in December he was with us for three years he was uh originally appointed by Mayor Corsi and then by Vice Mayor Fleming uh reappointed him when she took over on Council and he was really fantastic he was a voice of you know a lot of our young people and also our Spanish-speaking community particularly in Roseland so hopefully we can get him back so we can thank him and then the last two members were Miles Bergen and Michelle McGarry both were with us for about a year and a half um and unfortunately we didn't get an opportunity because they left again before we started meeting virtually so hopefully we can encourage them to come back and participate in these meetings as members of the public and um just keep connected with them and uh I know that they hope to see all of us again soon uh when we're back out in person tabling at community events so I just keep thinking about the Wednesday market and how much fun that was so can't wait to get back out and start seeing people in person again I'm gonna apologize to the two new members I feel like we're bringing it down a little bit I'm gonna be like send everybody Girl Scout cookies or something for the next week because uh we're gonna have to like pep it up um so thank you so much for all the service and yeah these stories and the connections and things like that I hope that we get to know everybody a little bit more and um as we move forward as well so our last agenda item here before we depart is our future agenda items and um telling you a little bit about the tentative schedule it sounds like we've got that um on our schedule for next month is the city capital improvement program presentation and cab input with the transportation and public works director in February and then all the other ones are a little bit to be determined and you can see those on your agenda if you have it it's a community empowerment plan goal uh one report including listing session data um that's still to come to be drawn in Sonoma county commission on the human rights report as we uh we've gone just a little bit tonight we are in a holding pattern and waiting for the city council um to to have the first crack at talking about that and then we have our homeless count um with Catholic Charities and also the update on uh the Greta's uh village which um that would be the jenny blend homes when she's able to come and schedule in that um and then the hotels purchase there was a suggestion about talking about the the purchasing of hotels for the homeless by the county in Santa Rosa so those ones that are here in in our city um and then community engagement division strategic plan uh the racial equity training and coming up with that piggyback onto that I did is that we just closed out that application process uh for the equity officer or director so that just got closed out so maybe at some point that will not only be uh racial equity training but maybe that will actually be presented by our new equity uh director um so that could be fun uh monthly boards commissions and committee meetings report out and that's usually um monthly so we'll get back to that uh any inputs on that list yes chair Barnett uh I just I got the email notice today that the form 700s are going to be coming up due and we're going to be doing a cab orientation um I don't know if Magali or Danielle you know the city is going to be doing the ethics training and uh the brown act training if that's being geared up because we're seating a lot of new commission and board members and the past we've had that come to the cab especially when we usually this time of year when we seat a new board so I don't know that I'm just putting that out there for the two of you guys to have a discussion with city because it might make more sense to find out if they're doing something internally and and you know but I just know from this time a few years ago when the election cycle is that we would have a brown act training there was an ethics training and the reason it props into my head is because I got my form 700 notice and if any of the board members or if anybody is getting that and they've never filled one out before of a questions you know um it's pretty straightforward but the city's there to help you with that so but I will say it is a big deal and you do have to file it so um thank you ethics training is actually done on your own now they don't come and do that I believe everyone gets a um it's a welcome from the city clerk's office and then that information is in the email definitely brown act training we can talk to the city attorney's office about that I think it is time the last one we had was a couple years ago so thank you yeah I did receive that 700 form I think it was April 1st I want to say that it's that it's due by but that's to do it quickly just get it done um so any other input on the upcoming agenda items doesn't look like it so we'll leave it right no uh remember I think I saw you yeah uh so this we're commenting just on the um the agenda items on section eight an item eight or could we request anything that we would like to hear from or oh great well I think I would like to hear from our our recreation and parks department just to see where we could have some engagement as cap um and maybe you know I'd like to hear from from that department great great suggestion um I don't see any other hands up so uh do we have any public comment there are no hands raised for public comment on item eight great thank you thanks for always being there with um that information about the public comment it looks like that is done our next agenda item is adjournment do we have a motion motion to adjourn all second remember Roberts with the motion and a second I remember oh your last second yeah remember cruise you take it because I might show up next week I will second that remember cruise with the second that was a nice long end off it uh looks like we are adjourned thank you hi everyone all right thank you thank you