 Okay, hello. I'm Redon, Redon Skikuli. I'm doing, I'm probably doing some mistake based on the reactions I get. So we also have like Albanian, the first one which is the country I'm from, English, Bonjour, is the French one, and Dutch, is this okay? So is there anything else missing? No? So we had a very nice discussion yesterday with some of the presenters at the dinner, and I learned about all the complex things about the language. I think I'm in a good, good to go. Perfect. So, and this also means hello, what's up in Albanian? So it's spelled with she, at age or whatever. So usually in presentation at FOSDEM, I've been here for three times, I think, or four. Usually the majority of the talks are quite technical, and I feel quite not qualified to follow them all, but I'm very interested about the human elements of each presentation, all the presenters. And since there are not a lot of them, so I said, I was thinking that I'm going to do the start and say, before presenting the presentation, I just want to, the application, I just want to share the reasons why I started it, along with some other people. So as I mentioned, this is me when I was a kid. I asked my mom some photos, and she sent me like, I don't know, everything she had since I was a kid. But these are only two of them, and I was born in a city called El Basan. These are the locations for the city. I hope these are correct. The good thing with locations is that it's a universal language, so everybody understands when we say north and east. Everybody understands where it is. So El Basan, if you go to the map, is in the center. In Albania, if you go to the map of Albania, it's exactly in the geographical center of it. It's a very boring city in general. Is this getting recorded? It's a very boring, but it has a very geeky element, especially at the neighborhood where I was living. It was the train route that was going there every day. And the most interesting part was that our parents were always telling us, don't go there, and it's getting recorded as well. We were not going there every day. And it was amazing because we are having all these networks of trains, and it's very interesting to understand how they work. So I think that was the first moments where I understand that I like to understand how things work in the beginning. So El Basan is in Albania, and this is the location of it. And it's probably there. People don't know where it is, which is okay. No offense taken. It's near Greece. Italy is there as well. And some other non-EU countries, which are bordering us. I'm not going to tell more about it, but it's well-known. I think it's the most well-known thing is that from 1945 after the Second World War to 1990 or 1991, we had a dictatorship. And one of the things that the crazy guy we had was that he built a lot of bunkers, like in mountains and also in the sea. They are counting, I think there were more than 173,000 of them built. It's a similar situation with North Korea right now. So getting from this environment, Albania was very closed, probably the most closed. We didn't have, for a decade or two, we didn't have any diplomatic relationship with any countries in the world. So a lot of people, nobody was going in, coming in, a few people were going out. And it was very bad to go. So in 1997, my parents and myself, we went to Athens, which also influenced me a lot to do what I was doing. And it's a neighborhood, I was staying a lot in a neighborhood called Exarchia, which is a very political neighborhood in general. It's well known, especially if you are into all these things. So there were these very, that was the first moment I learned about doing things, people were talking a lot. I was amazed how much people were gathering and talking about politics and all this stuff, being equal and all the elements that you need to discuss in a collective way. So this is also something that influenced me, this from the uprising of 2008 when a kid was killed there. And of course, you're going to see a lot of these signs, which unconsciously influence you in one way or the other. So in 2012, I went back in Tirana and with some other people who started a very small hackerspace, which I think now is five years, we take proud in the fact that we have slightly more diversity in terms of getting not only white boys like myself, but the majority of people are girls that hang out there and are under 25. We also had one of our members be nominated as Red Hat, Open Source Girl of the Year. She's one of the finalists. So we try to be diverse, although there are more elements in being diverse than just having not only white boys in the room. One of the events we do is Open Source Conference in May, in the third weekend of May. And I know a lot of people are joined there as well. So we had some, we are still, there are a group of people working in the hackerspace, which also has this, we try to be as open in decision making as possible. And this is one of the things I love, having this background of, you know, politically influenced from my teenage years and after that. So we have different working groups. There is a working group for Fedora. There's a working for Debian. Mozilla has a lot of contributors. And one of these working groups is OpenStreetMap. And another one is Wikipedia. So there are like five or six working groups that are quite active. And I started, my first, if you can see there, it's in September 2012. I started playing around with OpenStreetMap. I'm pretty sure there are more active contributors of OpenStreetMap than myself. But I think what I understood during this all this period is very important also to try to make a lot of community building so that the local other people start learning the importance of OpenStreetMap as a platform, etc. And after editing, if you see the stats and if you go to my profile, you're going to see that I just do simple stuff. Like I just edit the working hours of some cafeteria or let's say I just map buildings based on the big imagery, not complicated stuff. I'm being honest when I say I've been trying for a long time to learn Jossin. And I failed to learn it as long as I want to do it. But what I was fascinating a lot was the fact that there are other applications using OpenStreetMap as a base map to create very, very useful things. One application I use a lot is maps.me. And I was using it to get around Brussels these days. And there is also StreetComplete, which I think is having a lot of traction out there. And I think older than maps.me should be OSMN, which I don't have it right here. The thing with all these platforms is that they, some of them, or let's say the ones that are more mainstream or are used more, try to have this tendency of being a Swiss knife. Like you can also go from point A to point B. You can also search a category. You can do offline search, online search. You can also edit the map, et cetera, et cetera. But what I really like more are these apps like bike citizens. Or there is another one I like. It's called Transporter, which is about the open, it's an open source map about public transportation in different areas. And I'm following their GitHub account, which is quite active lately. And I really like those, not the general, like the general, but the apps that do specific tasks. And they are good at it. And OpenStreetMap as a base map for this is quite interesting because it lets you do also the most complicated tasks if you want to navigate, but also the simplest tasks. I think bike citizens does this, but also there are a couple of other apps about biking that are doing the same job in one way or the other. So yeah, as I mentioned, I really didn't, I think there are some elements for platforms like OpenStreetMap or some apps that can go even more mainstream. And you cannot do that in my opinion by being a Swiss knife or doing whatever you can with one application. And also web apps. So being fascinated by the capabilities of a platform like this, I said, well, there are some things that are missing out there. For example, I live in a city which is not big. I think it's something less than half a million people. But it has a lot of things I need on a daily basis. Being, I just recently got a bike and I need like a drugstore, for example, or points of interest that are not branded or they are more like categories, right? So if you are living in a big city or you travel from one city to the other, so in Brussels I need to go to the supermarket. I don't know what the point be when I'm going to go is. I just want it to be close to myself. And this is a need I personally found that it's much needed all the time. So I also care about privacy. And I really like, it would be nice if I wanted to edit OpenStreetMap but without all the 100 elements that you can go there, right? So, and of course I didn't want it to be like a startup or to ask for money, investments and stuff like that. But I also wanted to be a community led. What I, growing up, I understand that I'm very good on initiating stuff and making the structure of so that other people can join. But after that, like, I'm not interested anymore. So this, when it's community led, like community, you are not responsible anymore after a while. You're responsible in the beginning, but after a while it's so, for lazy people, this is the best approach you can have. And this open source communities are the best in implementing this. No shareholders and you can do something else or you can contribute on the project you started or not. Free open source, of course, respect the privacy. But also we need, going back to the story I told you about Athens, you also need something that is fair for people that contribute and also the people that initiated this process. So it's like, I don't know, like, you know, having a fair system, financial system for people that contribute. So this was all the thoughts before starting Citizen as an application. And if you go to citizenapp.co, you're going to see the old website. But now we are working on having it on GitHub pages so that more people, because we have Twitter messages, hey, I want to translate your website, so how can I do it? So now we are moving it on GitHub pages so that more people localize and translate it. And you can also download it. It's only available on Android for privacy reasons. No Google Play plans at the moment. And if you go and you open the application, you're going to see different categories. These are six, but I think at the moment there are more than that. So transportation, gas stations, drug stores, banks, ATMs, mobile phone stores, markets and kiosks. And there are a couple more. So if you go to one of these categories, you're going to see banks, ATMs or exchange. If you live outside the EU, an exchange store is very, very important. And you see some basic information when it's open, when it's closed, the name of it. And you can, at the moment, you have basic filtering. If the information is on Open Street Map, you can see if it's open 24-7, or if you see a lot of results, you can make it sort it alphabetically, kind of. And you can also see where in the map your location is. So this bank was there. Now you know where I was staying before. But if you click on that point of interest, you can also see more details, like if it has wheelchair access or any information about that that is on Open Street Map. Not all of the information, but the main ones. And if you click on directions by car, you can have the very basic navigation of how to go by car. At the moment, this is very limited features that there are in the app. But you can also edit it. If you are an Open Street Map editor, you can just log in easily. And you can also edit opening hours. Or if it has a Wi-Fi connection in the cafeteria, this is very useful. And other stuff. Everything is done live in terms of that there is no offline usage. You just get connected. It's very nice. It's that simple. It's a very nice interface for Open Street Map for people like my dad or like my mom that just want to do this without getting into the trouble. And you can also have some favorites. This is the about page when you can log in or log out of Open Street Map. And you can also have some more links about the website and stuff like that. So as I mentioned, I'm quite lazy, so I don't want to do everything by myself. And these are some main ways of how you can get involved if you like the project, which has started only for three or more months. So there is a GitHub page with all the code, but also there is some different repo. The code, the Android development repo has some issues that are done by the core team that is working on this. But also there are other people. I was happy to meet some of them here as well. There are all kinds of issues like design, which could be better or fixing some bugs. There are a lot of bugs at the moment. But you can also get involved. There is a repo about tasks, any kind of task you can think. Like for this presentation, I can open an issue and write down and people talk there and see what's happening. That's quite an active repo at the moment. You can get involved in localizing the app. I think it was launched in October, if I'm wrong, November, October, November, something like that. And already, these are all these languages translated. There are not a lot of strings. I think 100 or 110 strings about the interface of the application. We're going to also help now in the website that is just getting launched. There are some Chinese simplified and traditional or Norwegian translations from people I've never met before, which is a weird feeling when you see things like this within applications that have just started. This week, we're going to launch a Patreon campaign, which means that you can give one euro on a monthly basis and get something back, which might be from stickers to endless love from all the people that are working on this. Endless love costs more, usually, because these are levels that you get. Of course, that's the big trend now with cryptocurrencies. You can also donate by Bitcoin, but there is a big transaction fee, I think five, seven euros or something. Only if you have a lot of hundreds of thousands of euros, that would be a very good idea. We will not ask you about the source of your money, definitely. So what about the next steps, because we don't have much time? So this app also started as a tool for people to pay in a very anonymous way. I know it's complicated. There are tons of everybody talking about this right now, but I think the first applications that will connect points of interest like mini markets, gas stations with a platform that people can pay easily and anonymously would be a very useful tool for everybody. So this is one thing. So if you are at the gas station, the idea is to work. It is a long shot task, by the way. So you just pay for the gas station with your crop crypto wallet embedded on the app. We can talk about this later. I know a lot of people will laugh. So there is also about if you want to contribute and you also want some financial incentives, there is a utopian.io integration with any open source project where you can work on issues on GitHub or any other aspect and get some crypto payments from the platform, which is a very smart way to get more contribute. So you contribute and get better code that gets verified by us and you get your crypto, which again, you're going to be millionaires if you have a lot of crypto right now. So you can also help us on the community infrastructure on set up a mailing list in the forum, keyword lazy, and also I don't have also the technical knowledge to mess up with servers and stuff like that and even more improving. So if there are ideas, you can go to the GitHub repo and add any kind of new idea that you might have at the moment. Last slide. When I had the idea of the app, I just wanted for an easy also one of the reasons was that I wanted the easy way for me and other people to contribute to OpenStreetMap. So I introduced it to my niece some, I think, 10 days ago and she has already done 110 edits on her OpenStreetMap edit. So if this doesn't, if the application by itself doesn't work, I'm like, I'm very happy with it because no, even one person that started contributing in it, it's a very, very big win. And also the sad thing about this is that I feel the generation gap coming. She's so fast with the app and she edits everything. So she lives in El Baza now and there are no more cafeterias without any kind of information available at the moment because she did everything. Her mom shouldn't know that she edits only cafeterias and they also want rating now. Like she was talking with her friends and they want to rate it, rate the cafeterias. So these cafeterias are for old people and these are for young people. I tried to explain to her that that's not a good idea to do to comment on OpenStreetMap. So yeah, that's it. So I don't know if you have any questions. I'll be more than happy to answer you for 10 minutes. No, eight? Five minutes. Thank you. Sorry, I didn't get it. No, the privacy element, it's by far not where it should be. For example, the fact that we are using it's an Android app by default is a privacy issue. But there are some, for example, there is a Mozilla geolocation feature that you can integrate on an app and I think you get out of the Google tracking your geolocation. I'm not, unfortunately, I don't have to know how if that's true or not, but that's one of the features that we want to implement. Another one is that somebody proposed do not, how can I, because automatically it asks you for your location, right? When you open the app, it asks you for location. So one guy said, well, don't ask for it. So we need to remove it now. Don't ask for the geolocation so that people can zoom in, zoom out, and go where they want to go and see what's around. So these are the two features that are on the priority list, the integration with the Mozilla geosomething tool, and also the removing completely the ability to automatically connect to the geolocation from the mobile in terms. And also the crypto payments thing, it's quite a thing, but again, it's a long shot. No other questions? Are you downloading the OSM data line for your local thing? I think you said it doesn't work offline. Yeah, it's alive. It's alive. It's actually the app is, I know it's not good marketing, but it's just a nice interface or it should be a nice interface for open-street map data in a category. So it's alive. It's not an offline. Isn't that a privacy leak itself? If you are... For example, downloading a few bits near where you are and do them in a random order, so anybody watching your network communication won't know quite which bit you're most interested in. Yes, but that happens with any applications that access the internet at any point. So that's by definition an issue with all the applications that are connected to the internet. Or actually anything that's transmitted through the internet. Thank you very much.