 What's up everyone? Welcome to the Sunday night recap presented by FanDuel. I'm your host Simon joined as always by my beautiful co-host, Josh and John Luke. What's up? What up? How's it going? Just chilling. We're just chilling. We got some great games. Good football. Guys, the Chiefs just scored a touchdown. I know. I saw that. I saw it right there. Guys, hide it up. 7-7. Let's go. This is Uncharted territory. We're all going to be watching this game from the beginning with you guys as we are recapping the other games from this weekend so far. But man, do we have a lot to talk about? This has been an unreal divisional round of the playoff. I'm having a hard time remembering a better weekend of playoff football than this. Like I can think of individual games that were better, but this consistent three walkoff field goals, three lower seated teams winning the away teams winning all three games just unreal. And each game had like its own little things that made it more fun, made it different. I'm just like, I'm smiling. I'm teasing so hard. My girlfriend was taking a nap and I busted in like four or five times like, and the Rams just turned the ball over. Oh, and now the fucking is going to wake up. And she was being so nice just putting up with me pretending like she cared about it. But like, I was just so excited. I had to share it with somebody. This has been so much fun this weekend. That's hilarious. You're absolutely correct. Like the game, the Rams, Buccaneers game was freaking nuts. No one thought the Buccaneers were going to be able to come. No, time out. People, people thought it was possible. The Buccaneers have Tom Brady, so it's always possible when you have Tom Brady, but they almost won the game. I thought they were going to win for sure. And then the Green Bay San Francisco game, the snowy game, a blocked punt for a touchdown, a blocked field goal. Like, and then the Cincinnati game, Joe Burrow sack nine times. The first, the first ever quarterback to be sacked nine times and win a playoff game. Like, yeah, there was the crazy games all throughout. And now we have the Buffalo Bills and the Kansas City. She's playing right now. They're tied seven, seven. They've already both scored touchdowns early in the game. Hopefully this continues. We get a high scoring shootout. I know that'll be a lot of fun and we'll be friendly to all your overs out there. We love overs right here. So hopefully this game keeps up the pace that it's at right now. Guys, before we get started with our recap, a couple reminders for everybody watching. Number one, if you have not done so already and you're watching this stream right now, that means you're already on the fan to a YouTube or Twitch channels. If you're on YouTube, make sure you hit that like button on this video and subscribe to FanDuel. They're on YouTube at FanDuel. 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So we already have a little information, like you said, seven, seven, like going into this game, I actually had something written down. I said, I think the Chiefs win this game in a close one. I think they win 28 to 27. And I think that's still very much in place. So I still feel very confident about that one. So I think the Chiefs pull this one out. Chiefs pull this one out. Jail, what about you? I think I said, I could be wrong. I could be mixed up by games. I have a terrible memory, but I think that I said 31, 28 Chiefs and I'll stick with that as well. Sounds good to me. I like it. Man, just so everyone knows, the Chiefs came into this game as two and a half point favorites and it's a 54 point over under. So they expect a lot of scoring in this game. They're now one and a half point favorites. I desperately, I desperately want this game to be a super high scoring affair. So I'm going to make my prediction just wishful. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. This is going to be a ridiculous game. We're going to see touchdowns all over the place. The fourth quarter is going to have three touchdowns. 86 to 80. I'm going to say 45, 42. Another walkoff field goal to win the game. We're going to see 80 plus points scored. I don't actually think that it's just helpful thinking, but I think the Chiefs win this game. And I think it's going to be close, Josh. But it's good that you took enough time to like say that because we could still clip that first part. And if you find out like that, it looks really cool. Yeah. Totally out of context. Totally out of context. 100% right. No, I, I desperately want this to be a crazy high scoring game, but I'm with you, Josh. I think the Chiefs pull this one out in a very, very close game. So it'll be the first, the first favorite to win, right? The Chiefs are the, the home team here. So we'll have our first favorite. It's got to win, right? One of them got to win here. Somebody's got to win. Guys, we are going to talk about the Bangles Titans game first before we do that. We got some people in the chat here saying, hello, what's up, Maria? Glad to have you here. And Parker's in here saying, where is Jay? We are Jay. We kicked him out of you. We are all Jay. Now he, he, he gone. He'll be, he'll be back soon. You know, he misses you guys. He misses everyone. I believe he's on a deep sea expedition with James Cameron right now, helping do some research for his film. Yeah, I think he did that before. Oh, I know why Jay shot that last time, right? I'm looking at my board right now. And Jay, oh, he's a horse bet. Oh, it's all coming together. You lost all three of us. He has to make an animal noise. What was the bet? It was the Chief Steelers, Chiefs minus 12 and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That checks out. Yep. And Jay was the only one that took the Steelers on that one. Well, like an idiot and he's not watching you. We're watching you, bro. I know he's in the chat. Just like, oh, look, I'm Q. Okay, Jay, that doesn't count. That doesn't count as your horse noise. Maria also made the cheese. Auto correct, but I want to keep it. So we already decided bills are Chiefs bills are cheese. Bills are cheese. What do you think? I like that. Yeah, the cheese. Give me the cheese all day here. You know, the bills have never ruined my day, but cheese has. I'll give it to cheese here. Cheese ruins every one of your days, but you also love it. So I love it so much. I feel like Josh Allen could just run circles around cheese. So I'll take the bills. You'll take the bills. You know what? Cheese has never ruined my day. Cheese usually ruins my night. It makes my day and then ruins my night. And this is a night game. That changes your answer? This is a night game. So I will go with the cheese still. If this was the early game, I would have gone with the bills. Parker, you're saying, oh, never mind. By the way, Simon didn't fall. Thank you. This time, I didn't fall. Of course. Of course. Of course. Oh, Simon don't like don't fall this time. That's true. Man, I watch that every time I'm sad. That's why I've got the beanie on instead of the baseball cap. I can't go all over the place. Yeah, it doesn't fly off my head as easily and the hat's falling off is what gets it. What's up, Sean? Welcome in. He said, what's up, everyone? Front yard fantasy for life. We appreciate it. Oh, I think my mic just got extra loud. No, no, no, no. Of course not. Josh, one day we have to do that and when is Mike doesn't get super loud and just trick him? I think it would work. I think it would work. Oh, that'll be so funny. I'll really get got by that one. Albert in here with his own predictions is Bill's 3835. I mean, what is crazy as Simons but pretty close. Still pretty high. James Cameron says, what's up? Well, tell him to hurry up with Avatar 2. We've been waiting like 11 years. It's a little bit really what we're waiting for. Come here now, Beach 89. I'm so glad to hear that your lip is stopped bleeding. I know that was a big problem earlier in the week. Jail Garofalo and remember the time. I thought they were saying that they were Tom Brady. I thought this was a Tom Brady reference. But come here now, Beach 89 came into our stream earlier this week and said that his mouth was bleeding. Just I don't know what we recommended to visit to the dentist but it looks like he figured it out on his own. Yeah, I think I think maybe it was on Friday right there. Kev, what's up? Welcome in bird up indeed. Bird teams left or all the bird teams gone. All the bird teams are gone. Bird teams are down. They're dead bird down. There were no bird teams in the the vision around games. I don't hear it. Were the Eagles the only bird team to even make it to the Cardinals? Cardinals and Eagles both made it and lost their respective games and the birds are dead. Guys, we're going to go ahead and jump into our first game for today. We've got the Cincinnati Bengals beating the Tennessee Titans 1916. Our first of three walk off field goals. This game was crazy too. I mean, Evan McPherson, the Bengals rookie kicker hit a 52 yard field goal as I'm expired to win this game. It was awesome. It was he's a really good kicker guys. And he has a kick on the road. That's what they said. Like I was sitting there going like they're jinxing them. Like they're trying to shut up. Can they shut up about McPherson because like as he's going to kick they're like he hasn't missed one on the road. All season rookie kicker 22 years old. Can you believe every kick he's made? And then Josh, yeah, he nails it. He nailed it. He nailed it, man. And Joe Barrow was set nine times. Like I said earlier, that was the first time a quarterback has ever been set nine times and won a playoff game. And honestly, I was watching this game and there was pressure on both sides of the ball, but I was like, it's going to be tough for the Bengals to win this one. But they found a way they knew coming into this game. The stopping Derek Henry was going to be the key to their victory. And I think that's kind of what they did here. Derek Henry had 20 carries, a lot of carries. 62 yards, one touchdown, the touchdown, whatever, but only 62 yards. I feel pretty tame Derek Henry. Yeah, so that's a tame Derek Henry game. And I'm absolutely. I'm I think coming up each 89 hits on one of the points here. They did bottle up Derek Henry and he says Titans much better team. Tana Hill cost them the game. So it wasn't on Derek Henry. The game plan was to get Derek Henry going. They said they were going to get him 20 carries and they did. But the Bengals came ready to stop that game plan. I completely agree, Josh. I don't know if the I don't know if the Bengals really like played super well in this game. I feel like both teams played bad and the Bengals just played slightly less bad that the defense has played very well. I think both defenses kind of deserve to win this game. They did what they needed to do to I mean, Brian Tana Hill, he threw three touchdowns. Sure, but I mean, I threw one touchdown, but three interceptions 12 carries for 12 yards, three carries for 12 yards. He did not have a good game. Both of the defenses played like I already said, Joe Burrow had nine sacks. So if I'm on the defense for the Tennessee Titans, I'm a little bit pissed after this game, but does this concern you at all going into next year for Derek Henry, him only getting 20 carries for 62 yards and one touchdown 20 carries now. I mean, like he's got he's 28 now. He's 28, but he just he was he was having a fantastic season before he got hurt. You're still fully confident in next season. So I mean, his age is very concerning. Yeah, you know, like that hasn't changed them. That doesn't change after this game. I'm not I'm not concerned about anything from that we saw from this game. He's coming off an injury. It's first game back. The fact that the game 20 carries is pretty makes me pretty optimistic. I think he'll be still very good in redraft formats of next next season. I'm with you, Jay. I full agree until Derek Henry shows me like real signs that he's slowing down. This dude is a freak of nature and defies any other rule you have about like volume workload tread on the tires. Derek Henry just breaks those rules. I'll be drafting them probably as a first round running back next year. If I'm if I'm drafting first round running backs and dual also in here saying birds are now extinct. Sure, completely extinct. RIP all birds and Albert wants to know. Well, first coming up each 89 said I thought Henry played decent. Yeah, especially first game back. It wasn't a bad game for him. Thank you in the Bengals. Yeah, I think that's a great way to put it. Albert wants to know where do you rank Henry next season? So for redraft purposes, how many running backs do you have? I'm going to do it, guys. I'm a surprise. You're going to do it. I'm here. I'm going to share I'm going to share something. I created some tiers earlier this week. All right. These are my tears that I put together. I have the elites and I continue to put Derek Henry in the top and tier here. Does anyone want to disagree with me? Does Derek Henry not belong in the elites? I think at the lowest he belongs down there with CMC, Davencote, Joe makes an album. Come here, but I'm with you, Josh. I would I would put him up there in the elites. The elites category. And honestly, I know this might sound crazy. There's one more player in that borderline elites that I think I might earn honestly to CMC is a maybe, but the other player that I would consider moving up there with the way this Bengals offense has looked down the stretch and assuming that the real line gets better in the offseason. I think Joe mixing might be in the conversation. And you're going into next season. So you think possibly elite? Yeah, I think there's a real argument to be made. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's a real argument to be made that he moves up to the elite tier going into next season. Yeah. No, I completely agree. I mean, I think really the concerns with Joe mixing coming into this year were the injury concerns like he got hurt. He missed, he missed 10 games last season. So and he's missed games here and there throughout his career. So I think a lot of people were concerned going into this season, but he finished as the fourth highest scoring running back in a PPR league. He had fantastic season. He's paired with Joe Burrow in this elite offense. I'm probably going to have Joe mixing on a lot of my fantasy teams going into next season. Joe mixing or Derek Henry though, it sounds like you're still taking Derek Henry over Joe. I'm absolutely going to draft Derek Henry above Joe mixing. But having said that, the value you're going to get Joe mixing at, I don't know. I think I'd rather have Joe mixing in the mid, mid second than Derek Henry in the top half, top of the first. 1000%. Yeah. If that's where they end up being drafted, I'm with you 100% because I think end of season output likely could be similar. Derek Henry is going to get the volume. He's a volume king. The Tennessee Titans want to run through him, but I do think this bangles offense is going to be a force to be reckoned with for years to come with Joe Burrow, Jamar, Chase, T Higgins, Tyler Boyd. They've got a young core. They're only going to get better and this year we knew a weakness was that offensive line. And I can only assume that's going to be the primary thing we try to address this offseason because the defense even played pretty well down the stretch. So Joe makes ends on that borderline. The borderline elite is a perfect tier for him to be in right now, but keep him on watch. Keep him on tier watch. He's a good chance. He moves up. Derek. Jail, you agree with Derek Henry up there in the elite? So yeah, for next season, I'd have him up there. I know there's one ranking show. Yeah. I could not put, I don't know if I could put him above CMC. I think I would, I'm sorry. I would put CMC above Derek Henry and certainly above Austin Eckler in this, given these rankings. But I know this isn't what this is about. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I know. I know you love your CMC Jail. You're going to, you're going to have CMC in a lot of weeks here. Yeah. I consider both those guys elite. Yeah. When I created this jail, the toughest decision I had to make was I think CMC. Yeah. Well, Austin Eckler and CMC, just like that whole mix right there, where do I break it off? Right. When I looked into the numbers, Austin Eckler over 20 fantasy points per game, Johnson Taylor over 20 fantasy points per game, Derek Henry like close to 25 fantasy points per game, CMC 18 points something fantasy points per game. And in the last two seasons, he's disappointed the hell out of people. So I just, I think that's where the separation came in my mind and the poor offense. I think the difference between you and I is just where we see like, is this injury something or are these injuries something that's going to continue or not? Is he going to bounce back from that or is he going to, is he limited now? Is this like the new norm for him? And another player that Daddy Fandle is bringing up here, I think is perfect segue to this conversation is, so does Zeke go up knowing that he played Hurt basically all year, healthy Zeke next year ranks where? So Josh, you have him in the RB2s here. I'd move him up to great starts. There's a couple of names. I think there's two names in there that I would probably move up to the great starts category. And one of them come here now Beach 89. I'm just now seen mentioned as well. Zeke, Lily and Cam Acres would both move up a tier for me. Yeah. And to answer, to answer this question, he, he absolutely does move up. I'm going to factor that into the, into my, my rankings going into next season because players who play through injuries like this, like a lot of times in off season is going to help help them recover. And it's not something that's long term. They're forced to play because of the seasonality of this league. They're forced to go in there and play at a sub bar level. And I do think that Zeke and guys like CMC like they still have a lot of value to give. So in a redraft format, just, just considering next season, I'm still high on these guys. Oh, and in dynasty formats, you might be able to get a discount right now. Know what I mean? If you're, if you're a win now team, you're missing one running back. This is probably the first year where it's reasonable to go trade for Christian McCaffrey and Zeke. I think like compared to what his value was two seasons ago, you're going to be able to trade for Zeke like crazy. Like I've seen some trades go through that are like Tony Pollard plus a second for Zeke. You know what I mean? People giving up on him, which is, which is nuts. I saw that trade on Twitter this weekend. So I think Zeke is definitely a target, not just in redraft for next year, but in dynasty leagues as well. He's ease of value all around probably. And I'm completely fine. If you wanted to put Zeke into the great starts category, I completely understand. There's just, you know, other reasons why I separate those guys. I just think they have a little bit more unseen upside. Let's put it that way. Yeah, that's totally fair. And I, you know, I don't think that it's unfair to take these injuries into account or take these situations into account, take into account their age as well. You know, there's a chance that they don't bounce back. And so, yeah, yeah, yeah, I completely understand. I completely understand. What are we talking about originally? I don't even remember. Yeah, I think we were talking about Derek Henry and the Titans game here. So Derek Henry had 20 carries for 62 yards, one touchdown. I don't think any of us are lowering our expectations for him next year. I think that's how this all said weighed into this tears conversation. Correct. So Derek Henry, we're still confident about him next year. I think we all have Jonathan Taylor as our number one running back, but I think you can consider Derek Henry as the next person off the board. Just period. Not, you know, wide receiver tight up whatever it is. Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry could consider CMC, consider also Neckler, maybe a wide receiver, but the fact that I didn't really give much work to anyone else. As soon as Derek Henry got back, when they were doing pretty well with Jonathan Foreman, he looked good in the past weeks, building in for Derek Henry and they four attempts for 66 yards. It's a lot, but you know, he looked great. Nice. He looked great in this game as well. He had one really good carry in this game and they still come back to 20. Yeah. She's got a very similar like hair that Derek Henry has. So like a couple of times I was like, oh, Derek Henry big. Oh, that's format. Nevermind. I feel like in real life, Derek Henry is like three times the size of every other player on the field. Yeah. Yes. No, no, I mean Derek Henry is so big. Do you guys with only eight games played? You guys probably know this. You know where Derek Henry ranks in terms of rushing yards on the season, regular season. He only played in eight games. Josh. 12 Henry in terms of rushing yards. Yep. A nine nine exactly with 937 yards. He was the ninth highest rushing yard total and he played half as many games as most of these plays less than half as many as some of the guys at the top with the rushing attempt. Like he just that's what I'm not worried about. He's possibly yeah, they're going to keep doing the same thing. So that's why I'm not worried about Derek Henry. 20 carries. Like we said now another. So the other format though, only four carries for 66 yards. He tours Achilles a couple of years ago and a lot of people left him for dead and I think both cam makers who will get into a little bit in a little bit getting to a little bit in a little bit, we'll get into in a little bit. I think him and foreman both prove that running backs can't come back from this injury. It's not a running back killer. So I think that's just it's a it's a good story and I think foreman is going to have a role with a team next season. Yeah. Yeah. Now I'm with you. He's looked very good. Cam makers. I don't know. I know I'm not a doctor, but I know. Cam makers got like an experimental treatment for his for his Achilles. I don't I don't know if the onto forming at that same one, but that could be a big game changer for players who who do tear their Achilles like James Robinson going forward. Yeah, that's a great sports. That's a great point. Sports medicine is wild and it's getting crazier every every year. Right. Right. We're watching these players have injuries that used to be career enders like truly career enders you never play another down in the NFL and these guys are not only coming back but coming back the same season from these injuries that would have previously ended their career absolutely nuts. I completely agree. So I think the other biggest story from the Titans side of the ball was there's kind of two of them. It's the wide receivers. It's Julio Jones who I think he maybe had one of his better looking games of the season. Just like you take his whole entire season so far is all entire tenure with the Titans. He just had one of his better games when they they needed it the most but still couldn't pull off the victory but really AJ Brown the bigger thing here. He looked fantastic and he looks like a dominant wide receiver is still very young. I know he has injury concerns but I am so high on AJ Brown's future and I kind of wanted to talk about AJ Brown from a dynasty context real fast. I know we have our Justin Jefferson's and Jamar Chase's of the world who kind of separate themselves that are in their own tier but AJ Brown I think he could be considered as the third wide receiver that you draft if you're doing a dynasty startup today the third wide receiver with the board right now could be AJ Brown. Do you think that's crazy? I don't think it's crazy. He's not my third wide receiver but it's not crazy. I actually have a couple of guys ahead of him and unfortunately it's due to this offense. I know Dynasty is a long-term game but we're looking at two to three years and I don't see this offense switching to a past first offense anytime in the near future. I'll take guys like CD Lam Devante Adams and Tyree Kill over him in Dynasty formats right now. I think all three of those guys I've got ahead of him and there's a couple more names as well that AJ Brown is just about tied with right. Like we're talking about the Terry McClurins DJ Morse those are the kind of names that I have Cooper Cup even have like in the same tier as AJ Brown but the ones that are clearly ahead of him in my mind are CD Lam, Tyree Kill, Devante Adams which according to this trade chart right here I apparently I'm right in line with public consensus on that. So real fast jail what do you think about this? Do you think AJ Brown could be considered the third wide receiver off the board? Absolutely. I think going into the season I think AJ Brown was in the conversation for the top three, right? He was number one. Number one, yeah. Again, I think that this is a situation where we see, you know, AJ Brown got injured a lot. He just wasn't performing as much and people just instantly take that and they're like, all right, well, he's he's now done or he's now, you know, he's no longer what he was and we see that's not the case. He came back and played fantastic yesterday. Devante Adams is an interesting part here. I'm I feel like typically high on Devante Adams compared to, you know, among us three here. Yeah. But from a dynasty perspective, dynasty perspective, right? He's older than than AJ Brown. Pretty much everyone here in that in that group there, that cluster, the thing that's interesting about Devante Adams is he might not be in Green Bay or they might franchise Agam and Aaron Rodgers might not be there. And that uncertainty makes a big difference here. I think I would potentially take AJ Brown because of that uncertainty. It might just be enough to put him above Devante Adams for me. I am under the impression that like from from my understanding from what I've read, the Packers are going to have a hard time affording franchise tagging Devante Adams. Like that's going to be a very expensive franchise tag for them. Even if the goal is to get him off the team, like they're going to have a hard time even doing that to trade him and fitting under the salary cap. So I think Devante Adams is a free agent and if Aaron Rodgers is being traded and Devante Adams is a free agent, I'm under the assumption like more likely than not that they're on the same team next year, whether it's the Packers or a different team. Like I think wherever Aaron Rodgers goes, Devante Adams goes as well because he'll likely be a free agent not looking to be traded. It does kind of feel like they're a package deal. It doesn't. I don't think Denver can bring in both those guys. It would be if they are a package deal like we're saying if they have to be together then Denver doesn't make sense. Vegas makes sense. Vegas makes a lot of sense. The Raiders, if they're moving on from Derek Carr, Rodgers and Adams Raiders. It's going to depend on who they bring in. My question is like what do they do first? Are they going to like make sure Aaron Rodgers is a locked-in deal before they get rid of Derek Carr? Because what if like they're like, we're going to go after Aaron Rodgers and they won't get them. Man, they're going to be, that would be such a bad move, right? That would, yeah. And you know you had this quote from Aaron Rodgers yesterday. I just pulled it up here. So many guys contracts are up or on the brink. Lots of decisions to be made. I don't want to be part of a rebuild if I'm going to keep playing. Talking about whether he's going to be back with the Packers. Very interesting. Rodgers on the Raiders would be. They have a pretty good defense. They have like pieces that, you know, you just add in an elite wide receiver and elite quarterback. You could see them taking the next step. They made the playoffs this year. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But that's why I have Devontae Adams still a little bit ahead of AJ Brown. I know there's some narrative in there, some speculation, but those are the names. And I pulled up my dynasty rankings just because I was curious. I knew I had AJ Brown in a tier with some of these other guys, but the tier I have him in, it's a decently sized tier. And it's after those top three for me, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, CDLAM. It's Tyree Kill, Devontae Adams, Terry McLaurin, DJ Morris, Stefan Diggs and AJ Brown. And that is the tier two of Dynasty Wider Sears for me. You could change that order and I would have no issue with it if AJ Brown was that guy at the top of that tier. Absolutely. And just real fast about these trade charts that we have up here. These are provided to us by our good friend Alex, AKA peaked in high school. You can find them on Reddit under peaked in high school. You can find exactly how these trade charts are made and his whole process and he releases these on, I think he plans on doing it on a monthly basis. And during the season, he actually has weekly trade charts that are made for lead draft. These are, all these trade charts are so helpful, so good. As you can see, there's draft picks involved. You can find them on Twitter at peaked in high school as well. Just so just a quick shout out to Alex there. Thank you so much for letting us get it. Yeah, absolutely. These are awesome. These are a great way to look at how players are being valued by the general public, right? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But so AJ Brown, we think he kind of falls into that second tier of Wider Sears, but he can be considered as the third best Dynasty Wider Sear going forward. So I think that kind of wraps up the Titan side of the ball now in the Bengal side of the ball. Obviously, there's a lot of implications here. Joe Burrow and this team gets to go to the next round. They'll either play the Bills or the Chief spending on how that game turns out, right? That's gonna be Joe Burrow. Like the more I watch him, the more he just seems to have that like so much that factor like, like, like the only other quarterback I can think of that has that factor is Tom Brady, the one where like, no matter what's going on, they just, they find a way they will their team, they, they push forward like Joe Burrow has this level of confidence and swag on the field. It's not any stat you can look up, but God, I have so much fun watching him and I'm just so sad as a Browns fan that Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson look like. The Bengals can beat up that O line this off season. The Bengals are going to be dangerous. They're already dangerous. They are. They already are. Yeah, they already are. They're in the championship game, right? That's nuts. They're obviously pretty dangerous. I mean, they have a good defense. Joe Burrow didn't really, I mean, when you just look at his stats, it wasn't that good of a game at all. He didn't throw any touchdowns, but he did have 348 yards 28 for 37. So a good completion percentage, but one interception. And as we all know, he was sacked nine times, but I don't know how much we can blame him. I know he was holding the ball long, but you know, I'd rather take a sack over an interception all day, right? Right guys. So Brian channeled through three interceptions. Joe Burrow was sacked nine times. Look who ended up winning the game. You know, so I think that's a part there. We were talking about Joe mixing a little bit there. Joe mixing had himself a game 14 carries 54 yards, scored touchdown, but he had six catches on seven targets and 51 yards. So he continues to produce like he has all year. Guys, I want to ask you an interesting question. Um, and I, you know, I didn't really tell you about this going in. So it might throw you off a little bit, but we're going to ask you a dynasty question. So it's Joe Nixon, Joe Nixon plus a 2023 first trumpet. All right, 2023 first round. You said first round pick. Yeah, or Jonathan Taylor. Who would, what side would you rather have here? And just to give you some context, a 2023, a mid 2023 first round pick is about 39 points. When Alex's dynasty trade chart here, Joe Nixon 67 points. So, um, and then, uh, Jonathan Taylor is 83 points. So when you do the math, the dynasty trade charts would side with Joe Nixon and the 2023 first. However, Jonathan Taylor. My answer is going to sound a little bit counterintuitive, but let me explain myself. Yeah, go ahead. Um, I feel like generally the win now teams aren't looking for picks, right? Teams that are in win now mode are not looking for picks. The contenders, the ones who are one piece away from winning. But in this trade, if I am a win now team, I'm taking the Joe Nixon plus the pig side because I don't think there is that big of a downgrade from Jonathan Taylor to Joe Nixon in one season next year. And then the 2023 class at running back is, is already being hyped up as one of the best running back classes in recent memory, right? Like people are hyped about the running backs and the quarterbacks coming out in 2023. I'll take the first and the slight downgrade at running back for Joe Nixon and take that first and then Joe Nixon is getting a little bit older. You can immediately reload that player and start building with Joe Nixon and a new rookie who's fresh in that offense. Um, does that make sense? Like I don't think you're downgrading and you get a free pick right there. Now, if you are a rebuilding team, honestly, I'll take Jonathan Taylor. I'll take the guarantee right there. I'll take, I'll take Jonathan Taylor and build my team around that piece for the next three to four seasons. So for me, what usually is both, both your logic points make sense in my mind, but I'm actually going to side with the Joe Nixon and 2023 first side of this trade just a little bit. I think it's a fair trade, but I just to a lot of your points there. I think it could make sense for a rebuild or a team that's in win now. So yeah, yeah, I might aside. I'm inside with the Joe Nixon 2023 first. Jail, you got to have any sides that you kind of like there. This is tough. I know it's pretty fair. I would take the John Taylor side of this. Okay. I would take the John Taylor. I see your points. I like Joe Nixon. I'm very bullish on Joe Nixon going forward, but I'm just putting these into like, if this is a startup dynasty draft, Jonathan Taylor is going one Joe Nixon, you're probably getting in the second round. Most likely maybe early second round now after the season 2023 first going. Yeah. That's the question, right? If it's a high pick, it's going to be maybe closer to the third fourth round. I feel like it's typically where we see those like first to buy like one to five picks and rookie drafts. They should go just real fast on the trade charts and early first round pick would have anywhere from 44 to 40 50 points and that's equivalent to someone like J.K. Dobbins, Aaron James, T Higgins, Yonte Johnson, Travis Kelsey. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Nixon plus T Higgins or Jonathan Taylor. Oh, let's put a name to it. That's close enough that it would depend a little bit on my league. So if I if it's a bigger league and I need debt like a debt actually need a water seeker. Yeah, impacts in any water seeker. Then yeah, I would consider that trade. It's fair. It's a very fair trade. It is. I still think in most situations, I want to take the most valuable player here. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I don't blame you there. I think I'm I'm hyped about this Bengals offense and that's part of what's making me a little bit higher on Joe Nixon. This this Bengals offense is is legit. It's for real. I'm terrified of it for next season. If they beef this offensive line up a little bit. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, so Jamar Chase and T Higgins both had pretty good games as well in this game. Jamar Chase five catches on six targets for a hundred and nine yards. He is so good guys. Marches is awesome. And did T Higgins get bigger? I don't know. He just looked bigger than I remember for some reason. Like he just looks so big out there. He can't even catch us nine targets 96 yards for T Higgins. These guys look like they're going to be producers and fantasy for years to come. Um, tomorrow, Chase and Justin Jefferson just answered the dang question. I know everyone wants to hear it. That's what everyone wants to hear. We we answer it all the time. I'm going Justin Jefferson still. You don't have to talk about it a long time if you don't want to just answer it. I flip back and forth right now, Justin Jefferson, but Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are 1 a 1 b and dynasty wide receiver rankings, but T Higgins. Like I just wanted to put it out there. I was looking at my rankings. I've got Jamar Chase the two and I've got T Higgins at 11 in dynasty wide receiver rankings. I've got both these guys as wide receiver ones in my in my dynasty wide receiver rankings. That's pretty. Yeah, still still Justin Jefferson for me, but it is it is getting closer. That gap is closing so close. They're so T Higgins at 11 T Higgins at 11 is the tiebreaker for me. Know what I mean? Um, having another young stowed wide receiver right there is the slight tiebreaker. Like, yeah, it opens up the field for Jamar Chase, but it limits that volume just by a little bit. Joe Burrow vs Kirk Cousins. I feel like washes that out a little bit. Yeah, I just posted this trade on Twitter and it looks like Jamar Chase is winning this one pretty good, but it was a Devo Samuel and Damian Harris or Jamar Chase Jamar. Is that just ridiculous on that bowl? Yeah, is it just ridiculous to even consider the Devo Samuel and Damian Harris side? No, I don't think it's ridiculous, but it's pretty clear pretty clearly Jamar Chase for me. Yeah, I would give me more Chase as well. A dynasty wide receiver already producing wide receiver one values under the age of 24 is unbelievably valuable. People value these under 20. Yeah, I don't know what 25 I think. Yeah. Yeah. And, and a riddled injury history. I bring that up quite often, but it's got it's 26 with Devo Samuel. Devo Samuel was 26. He's, he's freshly 26. He definitely is 26. He's getting older. Yeah, that's weird. And then Damian Harris, there's got to be concerned with him regardless. I know he just had a killer season, but we know how the tree is running back and then Remondry Stevenson looked really good. So got to be a little concerned. So I understand going with easily Jamar Chase there. What if it was like Devo Samuel and like can acres that changes things? It definitely changes things. I think I'd still take Jamar Chase, but it does make it a little more interesting. Yeah, I agree. I agree completely. That really changes it for me. Devo Samuel came acres. You take it would be tempted. I would be very tempted. Um, but it's Jamar Chase. I don't want to trade Jamar Chase if I have them. It's so easy for me to sit here and say Devo Samuel plus came acres, right? Like I think that might be the right answer, but if I had Jamar Chase on my team, I'm not trading them for Devo Samuel plus came acres, but like because I'm not actually making that decision right now, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. That's how it makes sense. If you sent me that trade offer, I would probably decline and keep Jamar Chase on my team. Would you give those gifts away for Jamar Chase? It's the same question pretty much. Honestly, if someone sent me that trade offer, if I've got Devo and Cam, I would probably take it. I would probably take it for, for a guy that's in like one A one B wide receiver one over on dynasty this early in his career. I think I might take it. You know, the more I think about it, the more I I'm, I'm with you, I guess I do think the value is on the Cam acres and deep. Oh, absolutely. When it comes down to it, but I, I would want to purchase them. But I'm not always hypnotized by value. Sometimes I just get the guys I want. Know what I mean? Value values. Not the end factor in fantasy sports right here. Coming up beach 89 says McDermott underutilizes Josh Allen in these games, not using them enough. It does seem like they've gone with a run single Josh. Um, theme so far in this game. But you can run. What's with the team of underutilizing? Josh is run that Josh boys. Why aren't we running the Josh sport? Every, every morning in our standup means Josh is like, you guys are under, underutilizing the Josh. Come on. Run the Josh run the Josh right now. We also blame it. I think it's a playoff game. They need to win. Get Josh. I'm going. Let's go. Um, I think that's going to pretty much wrap up this, this Titan bangles game though. Um, man, what a good win there for the bangles. I look, I'm a Ravens fan. They're a AFC North Division rival, but I find myself kind of rooting for them. It wasn't just because I had money on them. No, no, I didn't just bet on them and that's why I was rooting for them. I, uh, I like the team a little bit. It's not the only reason Josh. Stop saying it's the only reason all of us are fellow AFC North fans here. Um, yeah, not bangles fans in. I find myself pulling for the bangles as well. What's cool though is after these games, um, like the games that have already happened pretty like there, there are no teams left that I don't want to win the Super Bowl. Know what I mean? Like there's not a, there's not a single team left that I would be like, ah, shit, like if they won the Super Bowl, like I'm, like I'm just excited. Now I just want the game that I want. Like I want a deal or a like, yeah, there's not a single team might be the most hated team right now. Like, like the team that like the team that people just don't want to see because they've already done it, you know, all the rest of what I'm cool with. But even their story so far, like they started out rough. People counted them out. Patrick Mahomes washed and they came through pull it together. Speaking of guys. Touchdown to the shovel pass also. By the way, every time they use a shovel pass, I want to jump into a into a ditch. I hate shovel passes. I love it. I love it. I think it's cool, man. They figured out a way to generate. It's like risky. It's awesome. God, the shovel pass. Like it's just so much anxiety from the start. Also coming up each 89 all caps. McDermot let Josh Allen throw the ball. Hopefully he can take. Guys, we're going to move on to our next game. The second game decided by a walk off field gold of San Francisco 49ers beat the Green Bay Packers 13 to 10 without scoring a single offensive or defensive touchdown in this game. 13 to 10. They scored in the yards. Yeah. No yards. The only touchdown coming from a blocked punt or a blocked a blocked punt in this game. The 49ers pull it off. Absolutely. They also had a blocked field goal earlier in the game and like it mattered. Obviously they only win by a field goal. Yeah. I mean, and you look at the stat line for this game on the 49ers side of the ball and it kind of tells the story. They couldn't get anything going. The highest scoring player for the entire San Francisco 49ers was the San Francisco defense. Nobody else were higher than the defense did. It was and the defense had 15 points. It wasn't even like one of these preposterous 30 point defense games. This offense couldn't quite get it going. You there were other factors though, right? The Green Bay defense is pretty good, but the weather was also insane. The snow was coming down pretty pretty hard in that game. Super cold and the snow was coming down in the second half pretty hard. But guys, my first question for you is revolving around what I think is going to be the centerpiece of this offense going forward and that's Debo Samuel. He's shown he's elite at the wide receiver position. He looks damn good whenever he's carrying the ball as well and this is kind of a it's kind of new territory for wide receivers whenever we're talking about how do we consider them? We're used to talking about past catching running backs, right? That's something we're used to talking about. We're not so much used to talking about these wide receivers that are also integral in the rushing game and we've already seen it a bit today in other games. Isaiah McKinsey has taken a couple carries for the bills already. We're seeing these wide receivers. Tyree Kill takes carries for the Chiefs. We see these players getting more involved. How do you guys view Debo Samuel into next season and then in a dynasty context? Is he a top five wide receiver with the dual role that he has on this team or do you think that hinders him at all? Josh, we'll come to you first. Well, I'm going to do something like I did before that none of you asked for, but I may just do because I feel like it and these are my 2022 wide receiver tiers, something I just put together earlier this week. Like I said, for the running back tiers we were just looking at and as you can see, I have Debo Samuel in the borderline elite tier. So I think for me going into next season, will I draft Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase above Debo Samuel? That's still to be determined. I'm actually currently leading both Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase's way. Maybe Tyree Kill, maybe a stuff on bigs, but Debo Samuel is in a tier with these guys. You cannot separate these guys in my opinion. Debo Samuel is going to be at least at minimum a top seven wide receiver for me. And he's going to be a top five. He's top five at this moment for sure. Just for next season. Just for next season. This would be the tiers for next season. Top five. I don't know. Are you guys at all concerned about this ankle injury that he was look like he was dealing with towards the end of the game? He limped off at the end of the game. I mean, I know that's for the next for the next game. Yes, but not necessarily for next season. That's fair. Yeah. But yeah, like I said earlier, he's off injured. He has an injury riddle past throughout college. He was hurt like almost every year. So something to think about. Yeah. Um, no, I think he's top. He's top 10 for me. Stop 10. I don't don't know if I could put him top five. Um, maybe just outside top five. I'm, um, he's right on that line, right? Like five, six, whenever it comes to redraft formats. But, um, I think you have it broken down here very well. The elites, Cooper Cup, Devonte Adams, and that's assuming he's with Aaron Rodgers in my mind for Devonte Adams. But it takes a step down if he's not with Aaron Rodgers. I make, I'm I'm making that assumption that he is going to be with Aaron Rodgers. Um, and then that next wide receiver drafted. I think you have to talk about Devo Samuel. I'm like, I'm likely taking Tyree Kill over him. But then Devo Samuel, Devo Samuel, Justin, Jefferson, Jamar, Chase are all guys that I would consider as that fourth wide receiver off the board and redraft formats next year. Um, I think you have to talk about him that way. Yeah. Yeah. I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you. So that that that's just kind of the tears wanted to quickly go over, but get those off there. Yeah. Um, George Kittle, I don't think we need to talk too much about he's an unreal tight end and will probably continue to produce that value. The other player on this 49ers offense though, I did want to talk about was Elijah Mitchell, who has kind of stepped into this role as the starting running back. I'm a real steal in the drafts in the NFL draft and I guess in fantasy drafts. If you if you eat the way probably didn't is a wave wire guy, but I was talking NFL draft. I got him in the fourth round in nine years. Actually, yeah. Fourth round. Our dynasty rookie draft rookie draft. Yeah. Yeah. I think in our dynasty league, I got him for like $90 of fab and signed him for $90. Very nice. Very nice. There you go. So how I view Elijah Mitchell, I think, um, I've been a little bit of the naysayer or a little bit further down on him than like industry consensus, then public perception is and for me, it comes down to just how this 49ers team has used the running back position in the past. I don't trust that Elijah Mitchell without that high draft capital is going to be the guy next year, like the one guy in this backfield that they trust. But Josh, I think you disagree a little bit on that point. If I'm not mistaken, you're a little bit higher on Elijah Mitchell than I am for next season and dynasty. Yeah. I mean, no, no, you're right. I have a lot of faith in Elijah Mitchell, both for next season and for dynasty. Um, look, I understand the concerns the 49ers have shown in the past that, you know, there's a next man up mental out mentality. Someone's can't perform. Someone gets injured. The next guy is going to be able to do it. And that's typically what it's looked like. But I think Elijah Mitchell has proven it more than any other 49ers running back. We have seen with Kyle Shannon. I really do. And whenever Elijah Mitchell is healthy, he gets a huge workload. It's not just it's not. We haven't even seen a time. We haven't even seen him be healthy and then not give him some kind of decent workload. You know, like he's always involved. Um, now there's still more to be, you know, wanted in the past catching game. He doesn't get a ton of targets, but you know, enough to be relevant. I am very high on Elijah Mitchell. I think the 49ers have decided he's the guy going forward. Now, now the only question is if he's going to stay healthy, but I think you can ask that question about every single running back out there, right? So I'm bullish on Elijah Mitchell. So just to gauge, and this may be way off, I'm just curious on value as Elijah Mitchell, J.K. Dobbins, is he close to J.K. Dobbins in value? Is he a similar tier or are you guys having J.K. Dobbins clearly ahead of him? Dynasty formats. Let's talk next season and dynasty. So next season first, J.K. Dobbins, Elijah Mitchell, who are you guys taken for next season? I actually have them in the same tier. They would both be running back to us for me. I'm probably drafting J.K. Dobbins and Elijah Mitchell, but they're very close. Yeah, maybe neck and neck actually like back to back in my rankings. Yeah. Yeah. Next season, I think I would take Elijah, Elijah Mitchell just just over Dobbins and dynasty. I'd flip it. I'd take Dobbins over Mitchell. Man. Yeah. I think that's a name that is you're going to see a lot whenever we're talking about Elijah Mitchell and the scary part is just that draft capital for Elijah Mitchell for me. If there was a little bit higher draft capital, a little bit more of an investment from this 49ers team, I think I'd be a little bit more comfortable with Elijah Mitchell, especially in dynasty formats. But man, I'm I'm just nervous that we're going to go back to this committee approach by the 49ers next season. They're going to reload this running back room and we're going to see a committee where Elijah Mitchell is not getting these carries. But Josh, you bring up a great point. Every time he's been healthy, he gets the work, but this has been a fairly beat-up running back room for the 49ers this year. Now, I will say when you say committee, like like he's never going to be a guy that's on the field like for 80%, 90% of the snaps, the 49ers are never going to do that. You know, he's he's not he's not going to be the Uber workhorse running back. I don't I don't think he's ever going to be their full-time past catching back either. They won't multiple running backs involved. So I do agree with you there. That's probably what sets J.K. Dobbins ahead. Well, I do think there will be a mix of running backs. I think there's just more opportunity for him actually when it comes down to it. And this is this is interesting to try. You just this is interesting. The chart you just pulled up here. So this chart pulls in a lot of like expert consensus rankings and basically creates these tiers and these values based off of those and Elijah Mitchell being dead even with A.J. Dillon is super interesting to me. One has a starting job. One is behind Aaron Jones and then in that same tier as Kareem Hunt and Miles Sanders right there. Would you guys have Elijah Mitchell near the front of this one? The three names ahead of him. I would probably be taking in the Dynasty format over Elijah Mitchell. Miles Sanders, Kareem Hunt, A.J. Dillon, would you guys have them ahead of Elijah? I'll have all three of those guys ahead of Elijah Mitchell. Absolutely not. Elijah Mitchell belongs with these three running backs Clyde towards the layer Travis Etienne and Josh shakeups in my opinion. Jail, do you align more with me or with Josh on this one? I'm aligning closer with Josh on this one. The thing about Dobbins too is we forget is they don't use him as we want as fantasy managers, right? Like I feel like we've been we've been falling like a little bit prey to the narrative, but he's kind of frustrating to manage as a fantasy manager in the past. And so he comes back. There's a chance that they're not going to give him a ton of work every single game. He's not going to be as consistent. So I think that's the thing that really separates the two for me. Well, we got to remember that was his rookie year. It was his rookie year. Get the workload and it was really the end of the year that gave us a lot of confidence. That's really where he was on the field a lot more and he was getting a lot more of the carries and he had the I think second most rushing yard per game behind Nick Chobles that that year. So he was he was very efficient. He looked very good and just like we're very efficient. It was kind of like Cam Acres in a lot in a way like you didn't see a ton. Both are rookie seasons and we projected a lot going into their second seasons and they both missed pretty much the entire year. We're seeing some of them from Cam Acres now. I really love those two guys together in both Dynasty and going into next season. Yeah, that's a fair point. And I think efficiency is the keyword there. Like J.K. Dobbins was hyper efficient and we've seen a lot of changes in this offense from then to now right over the past year. And so that's where that that uncertainty is where that it adds a little bit much to me or adds a little bit more weight to the Elijah Mitchell side for me. That makes sense. That makes sense. But according to these trade charts though Elijah Mitchell is significantly below J.K. Dobbins. Yes. Significantly. Dynasty. I'm still taking doubts. I'm still taking doubts. Me too. I think Dynasty is what's driving that difference here. Right. If this was a redraft chart, I think those guys are a little bit closer with Dynasty. I think that's what's driving that difference here. And I'm not sure how much that gap is going to close during the off season. Also Albert in here. Bill's just tied it up. Gabriel Davis with the touchdown catch right there. I mean he's been kind of stepping up late into this season as any Gabriel Davis is taking on like a slightly bigger role with his offense than he did over the course of the regular season. It's looked like he's been a bit more involved to him. It's been exciting to watch him and I'm just cheering for points at this point. I just want to score points. I don't like I of course I want the chiefs to win just because I said the chiefs were going to win. But outside of that I'm just as many points is going to be scored before this game is over is what I want. Also coming in now Beach 89 looks like they got put in time out. You got put in time out. But you know, you know, I mean, sit down at night by trying to I'm just telling you if you try to fight night by you're probably going to lose night by is not defeated on that one guys and she's taken over guys. The last thing I wanted to talk about on this 49ers side of the ball was if the 49ers let's say they come through and win this Super Bowl Jimmy Garoppolo is able to leave them. Do you guys think it's a guarantee like like what percentage chance that Tray Lance is the starter for this team next year or is there a percentage chance that Jimmy Garoppolo comes back and leads this team again especially with the success they've had in the postseason here. Now it has not been due to Jimmy Garoppolo. You can look at his stat line in this game and see that. But Josh, what do you think on that front? I think people are leaving Jimmy Garoppolo for dead right now. I think there's a lot of people out there. I would say the majority of people out there are saying that Jimmy Garoppolo will not be with the San Francisco 49ers going into next season. However, I think what did you say if the 49ers go to the Super Bowl if they win they win the Super Bowl under Jimmy Garoppolo. How can they just be like, all right, see you Jimmy. Tray Lance is the guy when we haven't really seen anything from him, right? Having said that, Jimmy Garoppolo I know it was a cold game. It was a cold windy game in Green Bay, but you didn't do anything this game completed 11 passes for 131 yards and through one interception. You want to see a little bit more production than that. I know they end up winning this game, but it was not because of their offense whatsoever. I think they need to give Tray Lance a shot. They gave up a lot to go get him. I would say a lot of people would say their future to go. This Tray Lance is their future. Right. He's got to be. Yeah. So I think they have to go. They have to. They have to go with Tray Lance in my opinion. Yeah, I think that they I think that they have to as well. I think that the only scenario where it becomes really difficult to tell is if he wins a Super Bowl or maybe even if he makes it to the Super Bowl, but even so I it's going to be hard to justify giving up all that stuff because then people are going to say all right, well, if you already had Jimmy Garoppolo, why did you have to trade all those picks to the Dolphins? Right? Why did you have to trade up for Tray Lance who you're not even playing? When you could have just done it with Jimmy Garoppolo. Now it seemed like it was a good like I still think it was a good move. I don't think that Jimmy Garoppolo is is going to be the long term success of any team. I don't think that he is he plays at that caliber. Even if you go to the Steelers, go to the Steelers. Yeah, I mean, if he plays well, he's already played well enough. I think that he's going to get probably get another starting job. Yeah, I don't think he's I don't think he's going to start for the 49ers next season unless yeah, unless he wins and then like I feel like even then he would have to look awesome winning. He would have to look awesome. Like it wouldn't just have to be like, you know, Elijah Mitchell has like 200 yards. Diva Samuel does everything and yeah. Josh, that's the exact point I was going to bring up. It would take more than them just winning the Super Bowl. Jimmy Garoppolo would have to be the reason they win these next two games in my eyes. This franchise seems like they've already decided Tray Lance is the future. They're ready to build with him. They're taking a similar approach where he sat a year behind a veteran quarterback on whatever you think of said veteran quarterback. There's a lot to learn whenever you get into the NFL. There's a lot. Jimmy G knows that Tray Lance does not that Tray Lance got to learn this year. But it seems like the 49ers are ready to move on. Jimmy G, it sounds crazy, but it would take more than just the 49ers winning the Super Bowl. He has to go out there and he has to win the Super Bowl. I feel like or for him to be the starting quarterback for the 49ers next year. But I completely agree. He'll land a starting job probably I don't know where, but there's plenty of teams where he would be an upgrade at quarterback based on what they have on the roster. It's hard to find an average. It's hard to find an average starter in the NFL and Jimmy Grappolo is one of those guys. I think the Mahomes comp is pretty, pretty good. Like Alex Smith is balling out that season and he still was not the you know, I know he didn't he didn't go far into the playoffs where they lost the first first round, right on the playoffs. I believe that year Alex Smith and the Chiefs. Oh, I don't think they went very far in the playoffs. They lost in the first round. I'm not mistaken. But yeah, I mean, I think it's a it's a very similar type of situation. Yeah. And but the difference here is that Alex Smith is playing really well. He's playing lights out that whole season. Jimmy Grappolo is not. Yeah. And they got something for Alex Smith the Chiefs handled that situation well. Yeah, they did. Coming in. How's the question for us while they're not in time out? Honest question here. Who's better? Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes? I'm glad you were brought out of time out to ask us this question. So just a football. Fantastic question out of it. Who's better? Josh, I guess the question is like would you rather have a team? Yeah, exactly. Well, our Jackson retires tomorrow. Baker Mayfield leaves the Browns. Yeah, for me, you guys, which one of these guys would you rather have as the quarterback for your franchise? Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes? Jail. Give me Patrick Mahomes. Give me Patrick Mahomes all day. All day. Yeah. No offense to Josh Allen. Nope. I would. Josh Allen would be a great. Consolation prize here, right? No, I was going to say it would be a great consolation prize because I think you might have just named one and two like the top two quarterbacks. You would want to start a franchise with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. If you had to start a new franchise today, those are probably the two guys that teams are fighting over the most. So this is a great question. Patrick Mahomes edges them out slightly, but that's no indictment on Josh Allen. That just puts them at number two. As far as quarterbacks, I want to start a new franchise with. Who's your third? Who's your third? Who's your third? I like it could be Justin Herbert, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Dick Preston. You know what? Start a franchise, not fantasy. Yeah. Give me Joe Burrow. Give me Joe Burrow. Just what I've seen from him. That's a lot like it's right. It's between him, Justin Herbert and Lamar Jackson. Those are the three guys. Justin Herbert would definitely be my third, to be honest. Well, as a Ravens fan, I definitely want to say Lamar Jackson. Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow are like that. I've just seen this factor from Joe Burrow when it comes to closing out games in those moments where I'll take Joe Burrow, but it's close jail. That was a good question. What do you think? Who's your third after these two guys? If you were starting a new franchise? I turned my camera off so I didn't have to answer. I think you could consider Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Dick Preston, Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford. I think I'd go Lamar. Lamar? Bear. Lamar. I don't blame you. That was one of the three names I was considered. So we had three different names. Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, probably the right answer. But I think Justin Herbert's probably the right answer, but my heart says Lamar. God, I love it. I take Lamar and Herbert so much. I take Lamar and Joe over Herbert, but he's in that conversation. Herbert Hader. I was. I was. I've come around. Yeah. Yeah. I, guys, it didn't take a lot of convincing for me with Herbert. The very first game he played in the NFL, I came out and said he's, he's like immediately a stand-up generational talent. Like it took one game for me to say generational talent. I got so much shit for that because that word is throwing around so much, but yeah, a hundred percent. I deserved every last bit of it, but you know what? It's looking for nothing wrong with being excited right now. I was pretty excited there. Guys on the Green Bay side of this ball, Aaron Jones was the fantasy star for this game. Everyone else was a little bit disappointing. Devonte Adams, it was a, it was a decent game from him, but we've talked a lot about Devonte Adams, Aaron Rodgers already in this offense. I want to talk about the running backs here. So my primary question is in a dynasty format, dynasty, so not redraft. Who do you guys prefer in this backfield? Who would you rather have on your team? Aaron Jones or AJ Dillon? Josh? I mean, it does see startup draft. I'm drafting Aaron Jones above AJ Dillon. There's a lot of people out there that are flipped. And maybe one of you two guys are. I don't think either of you are. We'll see. But I would draft Aaron Jones. There's no doubt in my mind first. Aaron Jones, he's 27 guys. That's scary. That is a scary age for running backs, especially in dynasty. But hey, I'm older and 27, bro. All right. Listen up. Aaron Jones has got nine catches for 129 yards. This game, this game here. Yeah. Aaron Jones is a better past catching running back. Um, maybe they don't have Aaron Rodgers next season. I know AJ Dillon is younger. He's kind of built a little bit more like Derek Henry. I know, I know he's like a bigger guy. He's not quite as tall as Derek Henry, but I like Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones would be my choice, even though he's a little bit older. They gave him that big contract. Jail, what about you? Are you in line with Josh? Yep. Everything Josh said, I agree with Aaron Jones. And I wish I could be the other opinion because I know there's a lot of people that would prefer AJ Dillon in a dynasty format, but I'm, I'm Aaron Jones as well. Now don't get me wrong. Um, AJ Dillon is good and will be a part of this Packers offense. Aaron Jones is not the three down workhorse back that, um, maybe people are looking for in fantasy. AJ Dillon will get some of that goal line work as we saw yesterday, right? Um, but Aaron Jones is still the back that I want to roster in this offense. Um, now my other question for you guys is with the assumption that Aaron Rodgers and Devante Adams are leaving. Uh, there's a lot of secondary receiving options in this offense that have kind of been overlooked or haven't been super valuable for fantasy purposes. We're talking MVS. We're talking Al Mazar. We're talking Randall Cobb. We're talking to Mari Rogers. Um, are there any of these players that you guys have interest in for next season? And you know what? I'm going to be an asshole and I'm going to answer my own question first. Yeah, I love it. There's a player all season and like, let's be real. I've got a Clemson bias. I went to Clemson. I love Clemson players. I've seen them play a lot. You can say there's a bias, but there's also an element where I've watched them play a lot. Right. I've seen these guys play. Mari Rogers was supremely talented in college and I was excited to see what he would do here. Wasn't expecting much from his first season in the NFL, but in this game, he was a lot more involved than we'd seen throughout the season. It seems like maybe they're starting to trust him a little bit more. I'm not saying a Mari Rogers is a superstar wide receiver in the NFL. What I am saying is I think with Devontae Adams leaving that he's going to step into a bigger role in this offense. And I think he's a great, great super by low candidate in dynasty formats. If you can go trade for a Mari Rogers, Josh, any of these secondary receiving options, whether it's a Mari Rogers or elsewhere that you're interested in? No, if there's one guy I would want it is a Mari Rogers. I think I see Jay here in the chat saying Lizard is a free agent. And like we expect Devontae Adams, we don't expect to be there. Maybe Aaron Rodgers isn't there as well. But a Mari Rogers rookie. A lot of talent. I like his value in dynasty. You probably can get him pretty cheap right now because a lot of people are expecting a lot of downfall for the Packers. So I like trying to go out and buy low on a Mari Rogers. Joe, what about you? I'm stupid. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm also biased because I'm Clemson guy, but I'm not not biased, but you like Simon and I. So we have biased you. That probably makes me think we're handsome and we think against him. Yeah, that's a good point. That is a good point. I'm not interested in Lizard or really any other wide receiver on the scene. Yeah, I get that. Also dynasty trade trade here real fast. Mari Rogers is here. He's very low at six though, but he doesn't have value. God, I'll trade a third for him all day right now. Like I'm seeing over there. The lake third. Oh, I'll trade a third round pick for Mari Rogers. No problem. That's that's not a question of mine. You know, one quarter back dynasty league. This has got to specify because in, you know, when it's a super flex, those third round picks are a little bit more valuable, but a little bit. I think I would still trade a super flex third round pick for Mari Rogers. You're taking you're taking serious dart throws in the third round in most of these leagues. That's not to say value can't be had. Josh, you said earlier in the show, you got Elijah Mitchell in the fourth round. Of some of these dynasty startups, but I'll take what I've seen from a Mari Rogers, especially the trend towards the end of the season and end of this postseason over a third round pick 2022-2023. I'm just looking at the names around him. It's like, I'd rather have him than freaking all these running backs. And Jefferson or Mari Rogers. I'll take Jefferson. Oh, Paris Campbell. That's a good one. That's a really good one. I don't know. I'll take a Mari Rogers, but that one's very close. I think I'd probably take a Mari Rogers. I feel a little bit more like a mystery box with a Mari Rogers than with Paris Campbell. I feel like we have a little bit more definition on what his. I will say Josh Palmer. I like him. I think I would take him over a Mari Rogers. There we go. Antonio Brown or Mari Rogers. In dynasty. Give me Antonio Brown. I'll take one. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, man. No. I'll take a Mari Rogers. Give me a Mari Rogers, but the question is there. Like if Antonio Brown does play again, he's undoubtedly more valuable than a Mari Rogers. It's just that bad. Do you think he'll play another snap in the NFL ever again? We did have a question from coming out beach 89. They said, so if the bills win this game, bills nine or super bowl, would you be excited? That's not a matter what, but yeah, it's probably the least excited matchup that I would like that I would be excited for in the Super Bowl, but I'll rather see bands. Yes, I would rather see the Rams. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I feel like 49ers would just get wrecked if it's 49ers bills. I don't know. I mean, if the 49ers end up beating the Rams, that that would prove a lot to me. It would depending. I guess the Rams not at home. I think they could beat the bills. Yeah. We'll see. I don't think they're going to beat the Rams though. Coming out another question, Van Jefferson or I youk for Josh. I youk. I youk. It's I youk for me as well on that one. Maybe if O'Dell wasn't there, that's closer. I do like Van Jefferson a lot, but yeah, it's I youk. We'll see if O'Dell still there next season. I think I think there's probably a good chance. There's probably a good chance. I'll go. I'll go. I youk as well on that one guys. Oh my God, I completely missed this whenever Jay said Lazard is a free agent and Priya said, or he's a flight attendant either way. He might pay. He might pay. I think he might pay. Yeah, yeah, I like Jay confirming. That's what he meant. I'm sorry about that, guys. Guys, we're going to go ahead and move on to our next game. This game was man, like both the games we talked about were already phenomenal, but this was probably the best game of the weekend so far. The Los Angeles Rams going up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Rams by the skin of their teeth. Hold this W out the bucks at it, man. Oh my gosh. It was unbelievable. The ending to that game, two touchdowns from the Bucs in the last four minutes of that game, four fumbles lost from the Rams and acres. Two of them from Cam Acres lost from Cam Acres in this game. One on the one yard line. In a fumble last game too, right? Last weekend. I don't remember actually. I'll bet that. Thought he did. Well, you know, we got it. We got it. He's got a little bit of a built-in excuse, right? It was first a couple of games. He made his his hand. Yeah, but like he's just not getting those reps throughout the season, right? Yeah, that's definitely part of it. Um, but the Rams have chosen to give them 24 carries in this game. What the heck? They chose him to give him a huge workload and they must have had confidence, right? Yeah. Yeah, guys on the Rams side of this ball, we've talked a bit about these receivers so far, but Cooper Cup, I think we're all under the assumption that in redraft next year, he's likely the number one overall wide receiver, right? Josh, I know you had him as your number one overall wide receiver, right? Yeah, I think, uh, there would be some debate there if Devante Adams is still with Aaron Rodgers. Um, I think you could easily make that debate. Actually, I regardless, I'm putting Cooper Cup as my number one wide receiver. No doubt in my mind. Jail, what about you? In redraft. In redraft. Yes. He's up there. I think he's top three for me. And how far up in dynasty does he go for you? Cause this is, uh, this is a player that I think his, uh, his skill set isn't necessarily dependent on his pure athleticism in the game, right? This is the kind of receiver where he's, uh, he's a polished route runner. He goes out there. Um, I think his dynasty value has increased a ton this season. I'm just curious if you guys view him as a wide receiver one in dynasty at this point. Are you putting him in that top 12 wide receiver category, Josh? In dynasty? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I'm not going to draft him in the first round of really any dynasty leaves because the age, you know, he's not really that young. He's 28 years old, but you know, it's, that's not a killer or anything. He's still going to have years of production being 28. And I think he's a very good route runner and he's paired with Matthew Stafford for the foreseeable future. Those two obviously have a connection. I could consider age a Cooper cup above everyone. I could, I think you could consider him the third wide receiver off the board. Number three in dynasty formats. I think you could. So you're taking him over AJ Brown. I didn't say I would. All right, there's a difference. Um, my, my, if I had to rank these guys, it'd be Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, uh, CD lamb, AJ Brown. Thank you. Joe, what about you? I think he's a back and wide receiver one in dynasty back in wide receiver one. I'm taking Devo ahead of him. Um, taking Devante Adams ahead of him. DK Metcalf. Let me ask this. So I was just looking at my dynasty wide receiver rankings. I actually have Cooper cup right outside of that wide receiver one territory. I've got them at wide receiver 13 in dynasty. I'm in the player directly ahead of them that I've debated. I've switched back and forth multiple times. It better not be very McLaren. Jalen waddle or Cooper cup in a dynasty format. Who would you rather have on your team? Josh, Jalen waddle or Cooper cup, Cooper cup. Jail, what about you? I'll take Cooper cup. You'll take Cooper cup. I think, um, I will say I'd put Jalen waddle above all these wide receivers in his own tier that he's in here. The yellow guys. Well, no, maybe not Devo Samuel. Um, yeah, I'm still putting Devo Samuel, but then it's Jalen waddle. And I actually probably moved Devo Samuel and Jalen waddle into a tier with these guys. Yeah, I think I would do that too. What about T Higgins? Or would be out here with these guys, but probably at the top. I've got T Higgins ahead of Cooper cup in my dynasty rankings, um, but it's very close. It's, it's very good. I think I, I think I have Cooper cup a little bit too low for being honest. I probably need to revisit. Um, but Cooper cup is a, he's right there on that wide receiver one line in dynasty format. Sean had a question for us guys. Um, we're talking about this Tampa Bay Rams game. He says, what does Brady do next year? I feel like he's deaf going to play at least one more season. I feel like this game alone, Sean added three more seasons of motivation for Tom Brady. Like, like maybe, right? Like this dude has operated his entire career just about like chips on his shoulder. I swear, like, like five of the Super Bowls he's won has just been because he didn't get the perfect season against the Giants. Um, he's, he's going to play at least one more year. If I had to bet, like how many years, if you had to place a bet right now, and if you get it right, a million dollars, how many more seasons this Tom Brady play? I'll say three. Three feels about right. Uh, if I had to put a million dollars on it, I'll say two more years. Two more years. Jail. What about you? I suppose still mine. You can say the same number. Seven more years. I'll say four. Let's go for it. That's right. He's going to play. We're going to remember this. I hope we don't. I can't remember what happened yesterday. There's no way I'm going to remember this in four years. Joe, you get all the overs though. You get every over here. If it's yesterday, the bangles beat the Titans and the 49ers beat the Packers. That is true. That is 100% true. Over under does look fandal in here saying over under 2.5 more Tom Brady. Yeah, it makes so much. It's so that's a perfect line. Yeah. That is the perfect line. Oh, I'd probably take the over two and a half. Two and a half is the most difficult. I would not be able to pick. I would take the over. I know exactly what I pick. I take the over. You know what with Chris Godwin being a free agent, I'll take the over because I think it makes it less likely that they win another Super Bowl. And if Tom wins a Super Bowl next year, I think there's a very real chance he retires, but I think he's got one more in him. He's got one more Super Bowl than he's going to write off into the sunset. He definitely does. I just don't think it's next year. I don't think they get that next year and I think he's going to want to end on a Super Bowl. And if anybody can wield themselves to a Super Bowl at like close to age 50, it's Tom Brady. But back to the Ram side of this ball. Matthew Stafford is in here fighting for his first Super Bowl of his career. He spent most of his career at the Detroit Lions. He's over here with the Rams for his first season. Must feel so good. Oh my gosh. Like and he's been playing like this. Know what I mean? Matthew Stafford's been a baller since he's been in the league. He's been tough. He hasn't missed a ton of games. It's really awesome. I know just from like a fan perspective to see Matthew Stafford finding this level of success. How do you guys view Matthew Stafford in the dynasty context? There's all these young quarterbacks, the Trey Lance, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Patrick Braholms, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrell, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Merck. Like I can just keep going with these young quarterbacks people are excited for. Is Matthew Stafford in the mix with those guys? Or is he firmly after these young quarterbacks? Jail? In dynasty. In dynasty. He's after. He's after these guys. I'm excited for the next few years, but he's yeah, he's his age definitely has a big effect on his value in dynasty. So Josh, I'll change the question a little bit for you just to keep you on your toes. Matthew Stafford or Justin Fields in a super flex dynasty league? Who are you taking? So if you came to me with the original question, I'd say he's absolutely after those guys and he's in a tier with the rookie quarterbacks from this past season. I always said he's in a tier with Trevor Lawrence, Trey Lance, and Justin Fields and the question really is. So I made it harder for you. There's quarterbacks or Matthew Stafford and I was actually just trying to process this right here and Matthew Stafford, you know, he's 33 years old, but I mean, he's every year of his career. He's been a pretty good fantasy, relevant player. I'm more or less and now with the Rams, he was a number five overall quarterback this year. He looked really freaking good. And when you're taking Trey Lance, Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence, you're really taking more of a risk, a lot more risk. We haven't seen it from any of those guys. I probably lean Matthew Stafford here. Josh, I'm with you. I've got Matthew Stafford and you nailed it. There is a tier right there, right? Like, let me just look at this tier in my rankings. Number 10 overall in Dynasty, I've got Matthew Stafford and then there's Trevor Lawrence, Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, and Jaylen Hertz. And I feel like that's a pretty solid tier. Matthew Stafford though is leading that tier for me. Right now, I think I have to take Stafford because of the risk factor with all of the other players and what Stafford is doing in this Rams offense. I think he's got it like, he's not old. Know what I mean? He's older than these guys, but you've probably got at least three, four more seasons of this level of production from him in this Rams offense up. I'll take Matthew Stafford over those guys, but it is, it is very close. I think that those are the names to consider Jail, Matthew Stafford or Justin Fields. I'll ask you the same question. You said after all of those guides, so I just want confirmation. Is it still Justin Fields for you? Yeah, I'd take Justin Fields in Dynasty. That's fair. But I think they're taking all those for a key quarterbacks over Stafford then, you think? I'm definitely taking Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, yeah, I would take them all. They're clumped together. Trey Lance, Justin Lawrence. Justin Lawrence, and Trey Fields. And Trey Fields and Trevor, we forgot one of the last names. I don't know which in the last. You agree? Trevor Lance. They're in a tier for you, Jail though. Yes. Okay. Makes sense. And I guess I'll throw like guys like Russell Wilson in that tier, Aaron Rodgers? Yeah. Is Aaron Rodgers in that tier? He's with Stafford in my mind. What about Jalen Hurts? Jalen Hurts is in that tier for me. There's uncertainty around his future, but his production is undeniable whenever he plays. He's got that rushing upside. I put Jalen Hurts in that same tier for me. Sure. Yeah. Guys, we're going to move on to the bottom of the tier. Yeah. We're going to move on to the Tampa Bay side of this ball. And the primary thing I want to talk about here, actually, you know what? I'm very in the lead. I want to talk about Mike Evans because I love him. I love him so much. And there's not much that we need to say about him, but he is just an unbelievable wide receiver. And it was so much fun watching him find, have the success that he did have in little spurts in this game. And it came at pretty predictable times. There was a, it seemed like the ball was being fed to Scotty Miller over and over and over and over again. And you see the Rams defense adjust. They adjust to make sure Scotty Miller is covered. And on that very first play where the Rams defense adjust to cover Scotty Miller, leaving Mike Evans one on one with Jalen's Ramsey. What does Tom Brady do? He hits Mike Evans for the bomb touchdown. I just love this guy. I just, I just love him so much. And you can expect another 1,000 yard season out of Mike Evans next year. But the player, I think we do need to talk about guys. It's not a receiver for the Buccaneers. And I can't get any back and that's Leonard Fournette, who? There is no guarantee he's with the Buccaneers next season. Right? He's a, he's a free agent after this year. If I believe Josh, do you think he's going to end up with the Bucs again next season? Do you think he's on a new team? I think it makes the most sense by far for both of these parties, both Leonard Fournette and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to bring back Leonard Fournette coming into this year. Leonard Fournette apparently was offered more money from other teams to go assign with them, chose to sign this one-year deal to come back with the Bucs because it gave him the best opportunity to succeed. And boy, did he succeed. Leonard Fournette looked freaking awesome this year. He was the number six overall PPR running back. Very impressed with Leonard Fournette. With his missing time? He was the number six overall PPR running back playing in 14 games this season. Wow. Leonard Fournette, I'm sold. I think the Buccaneers should do everything they can to bring him back. And I think the Buccaneers maybe win this game if they don't abandon their strategy in the first half of that first quarter. They were just chugging along with Leonard Fournette. Then they got behind, went more to Tom Brady. Tom Brady threw over 50 passes again this game. But Leonard Fournette looks to be a crucial piece of this offense. Josh, I 100% agree with you. I think it makes the most sense for him to be back on the Bucs. And if he is, he's a top 10 PPR running back for me next year, most likely. He's in that range. I don't know how you consider him outside of the top 12 in redraft formats going into next year if he's back on this Bucs offense. Jail, do you agree? In PPR? In PPR. In PPR. What would I be putting up above him? Let's see. I put Jonathan Taylor, Der Henry, Daven Cook, Austin Eckler, CMC. He's bringing them back up. Alcumera, Alcumera, Joe Mixon. No, he's not top 10 for me. So I know Leonard Fournette is here. He's actually in the high upset free agents. I didn't actually put him in the tiers. But when I talked about this and did the video, I said if he's back with the Buccaneers and Tom Brady's there, obviously, he's in the borderline elite tier for me. So he would be a top 10 running back for me personally. So let me ask you guys this. Givante Williams or Leonard Fournette next season? Well, if he's back with the Buccaneers, like I said, I'm putting him in the borderline elites. And I put Jagdvante Williams in the great start category here. So Leonard Fournette over Givante Williams. Simon. There's a lot of ifs in this situation. If Givante Williams is alone and real fast, Albert made a really good point in the chat and said, Ronald Jones is also going to be a free agent. And that's that's also true. They're going to walk Ronald Jones. Take it, take it, take it, take him out of here. I don't even need to consider him as one of the factors whenever I'm talking about this. If Givante Williams is back with the Broncos and Melvin Gordon is not. So Givante Williams obviously will be a Melvin Gordon is not. I will take him over Leonard Fournette regardless. Now, if Melvin Gordon is back and Givante Williams and Leonard Fournette is back on the Bucs, I'll take Leonard Fournette over Givante Williams. It comes down to Melvin Gordon right there. Now, Leonard Fournette signs with a different team. It's going to depend on the team, right? If he signs with the Falcons, I'm probably still taking him over Givante Williams with the Melvin Gordon. But it depends where he lands. It's super close. What about Deandre Swift? That's a good one. I'll take Deandre Swift. I'll take Swift. I think I'd probably end up drafting Leonard Fournette above Deandre Swift, but that's where the list would end for me. Chubb? Yeah, I'd take Leonard Fournette over Chubb. Over Chubb. And Mixon, I'm guessing you guys are taking Mixon? Mixon. Oh yeah, I'll take Mixon. I'll take Najee Harris. Mixon's in conversation for that fourth overall running back up there with Jonathan Taylor, Derek Henry, Austin Eckler. I consider Mixon in that conversation for the next guy drafted. Najee Harris, I'll take Harris as well. The volume was insane as a rookie. I can only imagine, especially with their changing quarterback situation that he's going to get even more of a workload next year. We may see the efficiency dip even further than it was this year, but Austin Eckler. It sounds like you guys have him just inside the top 10 going into next season. Yeah, he's just inside the top 10, but I think it would be hard to get him out of there, but he's just inside that top 10 running back range. And for Andrew, Jared McKinnon and his Kansas City's running back one. What a world. Oh my gosh. Well, it matches his Jersey number, right? He's number one on his Jersey, right? Isn't Jared McKinnon's number one? So it's just the power of positive thinking. You just got to visualize it, put it on your Jersey, and then you become the number one overall running back for the Kansas City Chiefs. That's how it works. Jay, and he was saying, did someone say Joe Mixon? We've said Joe Mixon so many times, Jay. We love Joe Mixon right here. That's what it's coming down to. Outside of Leonard Fournette on this offense, guys. Tom Brady, we've already talked about at length, but what I did want to talk about is, so we know Chris Godwin is a free agent this year. There's a good chance he's not back with the Bucks because he's probably gonna demand a pretty hefty price tag. I guess this is a two-part question. One, do you imagine he's back with the Bucks? Two, if he's not, do any of these secondary receiving options scream out to you as a value? A Tyler Johnson who has gotten more targets as the season went on. Scotty Miller, who seemed to be a favorite target in this game particular. Jay, I'll do any of these other options excite you from a fantasy perspective or is it just a thumbs up for Mike Evans and Gronk? Yeah, it's a thumbs up for Mike Evans and Gronk. I think that they most likely draft someone or assign someone else. I think that's the most likely scenario. I'm not gonna assume that these other, these guys who are filling in this season are going to command a bigger role next season. I think that based on their talent, that's sort of where they are. They're that sort of fill in that wide receiver three slash four. So I think this is, it would be a benefit if they don't bring anyone in. Huge bump to Mike Evans. Although I don't even know if it's that good for Mike Evans. Is it great for Mike Evans if he's the only option next to Gronk in this offense? I think so. I think Mike Evans is the kind of player. Today it was hyper-targeted. 16 targets, 119 yards and touchdown. Yeah, I think it's probably a beneficial thing. I think he's the kind of player that can handle that attention, right? He's got the big body. He's the big play threat. I think he can handle extra attention from the defenses. So I'll give a thumbs up to Mike Evans on that one. But Jail, you brought up a great point, especially drafting at the back end of this first round right here. The Bucks are in a great position to draft one of these super talented wide receivers. This is a deep wide receiver class. I know people are already excited about the 2022 wide receivers. They've, the class as a whole has gotten some flack from the fantasy community because it's down at quarterback and running back, but the wide receiver position looks to be as good as it has been in recent years. I mean, there's some names further down the list like a Skymore that's probably gonna be available at the back end of the first into the second round that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers could draft and start building around one of these rookie wide receivers as well. So I'm with you, Jail. They probably bring in someone else but it's more thumbs up for Mike Evans and Rob Gronkowski than anything else for me. Now, Josh, do you think Chris Godwin, not knowing where he's gonna end up next year, how are you viewing him in a dynasty format? I know going into this past season, he was widely considered a wide receiver one in dynasty. He was a top 12 wide receiver. Do you still view him in that context or is it changing for you? Yeah, in dynasty, he's right on that borderline top 12 wide receivers. If we just took it back real fast to the trade charts, it looks like he'd fall into Chris Godwin would fall into this tier, the third tier of wide receivers, you know, you got Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, then you have Tyree Kild, Stefan Diggs kind of deal. And then you have the DJ Morris Terry McLaren's Chris Godwins and T. Higgins kind of guys. And I think that's right where he belongs in a dynasty league. I think you can, I think the good conversation is Chris Godwin or T. Higgins. I'm almost 100% sure that both of you guys are taking T. Higgins over Chris Godwin, is that correct? Yeah, I'm taking T. Higgins over Chris Godwin. For me, I think I lean Chris Godwin actually. But Chris Godwin proved it even without Tom Brady. When he was with James Winston that one season, Chris Godwin, I believe was the number one wide receiver until he got hurt at the very end of the season. And he was definitely a top five wide receiver, I think by the end of it. So Chris Godwin has proved a ton to me so far. I think he's Uber talented. The ACL injury is the only thing that really lowers him. If he didn't have that injury, you know, I think he bumps up a tier in my opinion. So I know we're approaching the end here guys, but I wanted to do one quick question, a player comparison. So Josh, in a dynasty format, who would you prefer? Chris Godwin or Calvin Ridley? Chris Godwin, because of the uncertainty, I would have to draft right now if I was doing a dynasty startup, I would draft Chris Godwin over Calvin Ridley. Jail, what about you? Yeah, Godwin over Ridley. Yeah, it's the same for me. I've got them separated by two spots right now. They're super close, but I've got Chris Godwin. The two names I have around him in dynasty are Deontay Johnson and Jerry Judy. Deontay Johnson right ahead, Jerry Judy right below. Where would you guys rank Chris Godwin in relation to those two players? Would you be taking them before in a dynasty format or after Deontay Johnson, Jerry Judy? Deontay Johnson is the tougher one. There's no doubt in my mind I would take Chris Godwin ahead of Jerry Judy. Yeah, with Josh? Deontay Johnson is a really tough question. And I think when it came down to it, my rankings, they would be back-to-back. Deontay Johnson, he's Thrive, but it's been with Ben Ralfelsberger, who was great at throwing an accurate short pass where Deontay Johnson thrives. I think I lean Chris Godwin there. I lean Deontay Johnson, but it is very close there back-to-back for me as well. Yep, and the reason I brought that up is those three are back-to-back-to-back in my rankings. It goes Deontay Johnson, Chris Godwin, Jerry Judy, back-to-back-to-back, 13, 14, 15. Is Mike Evans ahead of those guys for you, Simon? Oh yeah, Mike Evans is, let's see. Number one. Actually, no. Actually, no. Mike Evans in dynasty, you may be surprised by this, but I have right below Jerry Judy at 17, and then Calvin Ridley once below there. Yeah, I love Mike Evans, but these guys are, I imagine they have similar fantasy output. These guys, how does they get older? Going into next season, I will say, I will definitely have Mike Evans ranked above Chris Godwin, but in a dynasty league, I would draft Chris Godwin ahead of Mike Evans. Yeah, three years age difference. Yep, yep, the tiebreaker for me is I imagine their fantasy output will likely be similar next year, and if that's the case, then I'll use age as a tiebreaker, but I will not use age to put someone ahead of someone that I think is going to outperform them for the next couple of years, right? Maria in here is saying, I love the idea that Jay has a Joe mix-in alarm. He absolutely does. It is 100% his superpower. Yep, not very useful, but... And it's got unlimited signal. He could go deep into space and he would still have that alarm go off. It's incredible. Water pressure, it's incredible. Nothing stops it. Nothing stops it. Guys, we are approaching the end here. I know we want to go catch the end of this Bill's Chiefs game, and it's a pretty close one. We're getting another close game right here, so we'll see. Fingers crossed for another walk-off field goal, right? Let's end it before walk-off field goals in this game. That would be so much fun. Anything else before we jump off, guys? Any last words, any final statements that you want to say to close off this divisional round? I love you, guys. Kicking makes fantasy fun. Kicking makes fantasy fun, 100%. Guys, that is going to be it for us this Sunday. No, it doesn't. Wait, no, no, don't end on that. Kicking does not make fantasy fun. Stop. No, no, no. The kicker's out of here. Jail said that for Linda on Linda Loan. He's going to clip that and send it to her, and be like, look, I said, Kicking makes fantasy fun on Fandual. It clicked a little bit too late for me. I was like, wait, no, wait. Guys, if you have not done so already, make sure you are subscribed to Fandual on YouTube. And if you're watching this on Twitch, hit that follow button. Then go check out Fandual on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. They're at Fandual on all of those platforms. They have a whole team of incredible content creators helping you guys win some money and win your leagues. I know you got three super, super handsome, charming guys right here, but there's others on the platform. Two out of the three are not so very handsome, but I won't say which one. Two out of the three. I'm in agreement, Jail. There's someone who's not, but we will not dive into that. Next week, we tell you who's ugly. Guys, that is going to be it for us. That's going to be it for us this week. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday night, and we will see you next week. Until then, adios, everyone. Yeah, Josh, Sunday night. Sing out song.