 Also, yes, everyone is in good evening. I like to call the regularly scheduled Monday, April 17th 2023 select board Berlin select board to order With us tonight to my left is close Smith and Joe Stahl my right tour Nelson David Sawyer I'm Brad Town was also our town administrator Vince Connie town treasurer, Diane Isabel town clerk Richard Additions or changes to the agenda. Yes, we have the additional approval of the warning for the special election Rachel will present tonight, and we have an amusement permit application from Glennis Hill Farm as well That's in your package, and I just like to point out one one error as well on the agenda the 21 5th 2023 meeting Minutes should have been removed. They've been approved and replaced by 6th March So we would add the 6th March 2023 Meeting minutes on there. That was just an omission I missed Nothing else Let me just quickly take a look Nope, the rest is roundtable, and I would just like to before you go to public comment Introduce mr. Ned Swanberg who is here to speak during the public comment period regarding the CRS, which there's a Document in there that talks about the CRS when we were first awarded that and he has been very helpful and Very involved with us in being able to achieve that So just want to thank him on behalf of the town he guided us through the process and helped us quite a lot to be able to Achieve those results and again just as a refresher those those results and the change in rating Gives us a ability to pass on a reduced flood insurance to our residents by achieving that so That's just my little kickoff there my soapbox public comment Yes Swanberg I'm the regional foot name manager for central Vermont and Berlin and this is my colleague Stephanie Smith the state hazard mitigation officer at for my emergency management So working with this on a property buyout, but I manage hazard mitigation funding mostly to reduce flood risk at this day You have other things you are interested in And We have a plaque and we just have to award that to the community and say thank you for your work in the community rating system and This acknowledges the community just has achieved a class seven. So that's a really big that's the leader in the state Can we Chair Oh Any other public comment Very none Makaya Burrington right away from it. I don't see anyone Well, we've got another caller now, maybe this might be them to represent that so that is the one on Route 12 10. No, you Wanted to talk about that a little bit. I want at the bottom of Chandler Road The old wheeler house. Yep So Reached out to a few times Said the email didn't work and the number and nobody called back There's a few things going on there Not sure if they want to pull the first drive way from the second drive way and the larger concern of it all is in 2000 starting I think this year Continuing through next year. The state is doing a complete reproject of route 12 from Northfield the Montellier And they have reached out to the towns and are going to drastically change that intersection. That is no longer going to be The why intersection anymore that is going to come down the hill Sweep slight to the right and come out in the middle of the radius So it is going to be a left and right and not a yield and Ramp for people to run off and just beating up the road So that's going to change that whole area quite drastically My best opinion is is that I believe that everything should kind of wait for the state gets their engineering And figure out what that intersection is going to look like Before moving So nobody knows if they're doing this to accommodate the new intersection or if they're just doing it to I know they They spoke with me once while I was following that intersection They don't care for the amount of snow that they get because they get some snow from route 12 And then they get snow from Chandler Road That house has been there for a very long time So I know Tom will talk to the property owner and in your drawing you'll see a red line That's where the existing drive is they are going to eliminate that drive And they want to move it up to where that the green Section is higher up Chandler Road away from route 12. That's their intent. They're going to cut some of those trees there as well They said Visibility Seeders Like where that green line is there's two huge I think there's footleaf maples on the front lawn. So I assume they're gonna have to come out of there That's their problem, but they have to put an 18 inch culvert in there and Do all that stuff and then I guess that the state's going to change that intersection completely And when the permit it indicates converts Is there discussion about more than one culvert? Like I said, I haven't been able to talk to these people. I've gone there twice after work and nobody's been home Again, what I understand from talking with Tom because I reached out to him as well And wasn't able to reach them when they're talking about the culverts. They want to take out the existing culvert at the end of that drive Make that one go away, I guess Um and put in a new culvert there So that's that was the understanding but they may They may need to leave that culvert there I would guess because that dumps into the little The little brook that runs by in an under route 12 over to the dog river They'll have to ditch it. Yeah, and they'll have to ditch from the existing from the new culvert where they're putting in their new drive To that That isn't very far from the road to the garage No They're going to be able to start at 30 feet So give it a no, it's not very far like that's what I I'm not grasping on the concept. Yeah, I'm going to speculate a little bit They're they're aware that the state's going to change that intersection and that section is going to go away Yeah, right there. So they I'm I'm going to just make an assumption that they're Going to plan on using that existing section of the portion of that road at the end of their driveway So you're saying Tim that where the y is they're going to take him had to go right through the island onto the road Okay Kind of speak to the right more of the center of the radius of the corner So there are addresses group 12 and actually if we change their driveway, they're going to have to have them They're going to have a change of address We changed And honestly it'd probably be safer for them Doing this right I mean dumping right out on route 12 or versus Chandler road However, they do the intersection Yeah, so what's what's the downside of um, this happening at this point Even they're going to spend money that they're not going to need to but I don't My biggest concern is is that there's a there's enough of a corner There's somebody's coming down Chandler road and they drive out into the road There's not going to be enough of the sight visibility There's not have to be some serious trigger removal on the uphill side Like for that. Yeah, they need yeah, they're going to have to do it You know, it's not because it's it's a cedar Hedge row that was planted there years ago. Those trees are 15 20 feet tall All the way up through there looking at some of this in trees around Property they're not going to be able to remove those unless they get the condition because it's off the property line The other thing I just had a quick question Have you been is there like some minimum length of covert that you guys have been requiring because you know how it is when people Round in and crimp them over and don't Don't believe there's a minimum length. There's a minimum size Yeah, because a lot of times that you pull in there And you start to round off and you don't need to read something around Most people will put a 20 foot culvert in because that's what you buy as a 10 foot section and Hearing everybody you think no 20 feet. That's quite a long you put a driveway in and there's not much You have 30 feet Should be something that we look at for a minimum They did include on the permit they wrote for safety Construction of new driveway eliminate old drive for safety I think just my my thoughts on this for what it's worth to the board is If the board moves to to approve this, I would just suggest with the Contingency that we give tim the opportunity and the landowners to talk together to make sure there's a clear understanding of what the state's doing and and what will Need to be met from the town perspective because Unfortunately, we've tried but he hasn't had that opportunity yet. There's a lot going on as tim said right here at this intersection with the state Change we just want to make sure that they're not expecting something from the state That either we're not aware of or Everything including the culverts is going to work from from the town perspective. I mean, I think it can right there's Like I said, there's a lot going on. I think it can work It's just it's got to be clearly communicated by everybody including the state at this point to a certain degree I think I would feel better pulling off on our approval until after that conversation has happened That's exactly what I was going to say. Okay. Yeah, I concur I mean the other thing is just making sure that Maintaining the site distance that they've got the ability to do that It's right now like I've witnessed it. They come off the floor with a pretty good clip going up and then they come down Just as fast as fast and there's not a lot of leeway invisibility Without good tree removal So motion you want to motion the table? Quick date Um What I will do if the board agrees is we'll continue to reach out to them And tim can uh can meet with them if they reach an agreement I will I will put that in an email And text to you since your email's not up to all the board members That we've reached an agreement and and what those details are if the board's own desires But we can discuss it again at the next one after you I I think so, but did they Are there some time at the strength? Well, I think they wanted to get started on the work, right? They wanted to get the trees cut and start some preliminary work as soon as as soon as they could Well, I mean they can't do that anyway. We just can't change the entrance. They can't actually change the entrance Okay, uh second on the motion second Any further discussion All those in favor Motion carries a Best Reno right away permit you for approval. What do you mean? I'm acting agent for a master in honor of property. I'm going to be the builder This is mr. Dindal by the way. Yes, Robert Dindal. I'm sorry Brown resident of course You know this one So where where is this? It's uh right at the intersection of mirror lake and brookfield On the it would be the west side So our dilemma is that we we're tearing down an existing porch at faces east towards the road And we're building a new Living room with a full home foundation up and the footprint is within inches of being the same footprint And we need access to the site with machinery and we don't have it anywhere but off the town road And I have some pictures of where Where that would take place right in this ditch You can see the property in the background This is just temporary. Yeah temporary then we fix it on the way out. Yeah, so I did you take a look at it? Yeah There's don't see there being a problem, you know, I mean this is just a temporary access for them to build Because there's what there's quite a bit of cedar around the back of that house like they would have to be They got a septic and mounts is that what's right on the mountain? Yeah, so we can't Can't access it to drive the main driveway side They got a septic tank and pump station and up backs the mound system. So the only spot Yeah And it and it The lay of the land lowers down quite nicely toward the road for our access without getting too extreme How big of culvert were you going to put in temporary? We talked about a 20 footer I was thinking diameter. Oh diameter. I don't know whatever whatever the town recommends It's it's a ditch right now. So I don't know exactly It's not like it's a stream or a book. Yeah Whatever you're required and this is just going in for the season or something, right? Yeah, I'll just do some of the heavy equipment and the foundation concrete work And then when we're done with all that and the machinery goes away We put it back Who's doing the dirt work? Vinnie Covino Does he have a pipe and so he said he Yeah, yeah, I mean 15 to 18 minutes right there for temporary is perfectly fine. The ditch only goes probably another 100 feet past where he's still extreme. Nobody water flows. No, it's it kind of comes out of Zell Field there, but there's not a It crosses the road underneath there's not a lot of drastically flow of water there We're a 15 or 18 inch pipe there, but I would recommend a little longer than 20 And that's pretty yeah, especially if he's gonna be you guys are gonna be trying to back concrete trucks. Yeah 20 Like David was just saying 20. Yeah. Yeah Pretty pretty tight when you're trying to back Yeah, I would try to keep a 30 foot pipe in there just 15 or 18. Yeah, whatever he's got. I mean if he's got bigger Yeah Well, I want to keep it as small as possible so we can get fill up over there without digging make the motion to approve the permit as presented to us by Robert For the Mastriano's law on the east side of the field With the contingency that they use the 30 foot length instead of the 20 length that's included on The permit You just have a minimum 15 inch Diameter exactly Thank you. Thank you very much If it was gonna be permanent Okay, um Second uh all those in favor Hi I'm both comparing green mountain tower right away for a minute. I'm here with you guys on soon Hey, good evening Good evening had some technical difficulty signing on but I'm here Good that happens I've seen that I went look at the gate stakes I spoke with Jase Jason Probably two weeks ago. I think They're going all the way down through there doing Put the signals on every railroad crossing down through there and green mountain powers Moving poles out to support them with their crossing signals That one's you know, they just add two poles Just outside of there right away. They put grade stakes in I mean where they we're gonna put the poles See no problem there I take it he Didn't want you to go up completely at the left-hand side on the cross Yes, so I I reached out and I never heard back from him. So I I didn't know if that was just a street No, and I can try again Um, but I didn't hear because I I staked it both ways just in case to present it to them both ways But I never heard back So what he's talking about is you guys can look in that picture They were proposing to stay all completely on one side of the road, but there's that one fir tree and Maybe like a choke cherry tree there maybe but it's mainly the one fir tree On that left-hand side and they were going to run poles all the way up So they didn't have to cross the down road with wires But he reached out to the landowner I guess I didn't get back to him so and that's I don't know if that's anything that we can do or not do What go over the tree Well, they'd have to remove it right Whose land is this George's grosses all the joy goes on the farm. Yeah, this is cat talk river farm Yeah, and you didn't get a hold of George to see if he they tried to they reached out to him Well The only problem for us is he's only trying to spread gravel The lines are in the way Do the fact that it crosses the road twice Trees are important for agriculture Just saying Well One fir tree Somebody could take and frame the motions so that It could be dependent on what they do with that fir tree where the other great where the other pole would go a pole number 25 No, I think it's a seven nine six three five seven. Yeah. Yeah So you're taking If George wants doesn't has no complaints about taking that out. We can do it if they can take it out if not It is picture Now see somebody form that motion Sounds like a complicated one. I make the motion that we approve the green mountain power permit 23-017 as presented with the exception of being assured by conversation with George gross the property owner that they they can Handle the issue with the fir tree if it's a fir tree or what have you and Otherwise I say we approve it Here a second Little further discussion All those in favor All right Those opposed the motion cares There you go Take care Especially that amusement permit that's for blue cross blue shield It's their walk from blue cross to ranger road comstock road and back Did they just I think it's a yearly Walk so I make a motion except the Blue cross blue shield special application Second Any further discussion All those in favor Most in carries Mr. Chair, I just like to remind you that there's one one additional amusement ordinance permit that was added on tonight for the Fundraiser Similar similar last year. That's what up on that's what up on lettuce. Yeah Was there any incense or anything with that last year? No Pretty quiet. I think it went really well. You know how many attendees they wanted about it. I do not hear a motion on it make a motion to approve the special permit Are you missing anything? I'm going to sell Um Second Any other discussion All those in favor All right motion carries Roadside mowing rfp. Yeah, there's a copy of one pager in your package It's basically just to go out the bit for the roadside mowing this year It's uh Exactly the same pretty much as last year's rfp with the dates changed It's only like last year. Do you think we got the minimum five foot? Most places. Yeah, it's hard in some places because of the ditches split. So Well, yeah, that's true. Even when the bank got, you know, short Shoulder ditch bank And I think I noticed a lot of times they didn't get the bank. So I'm spoke with him earlier today about maybe Looking at alternating years between one to two passes on the dirt so One year it would just be the what we normally do And the next year it would be two passes on the dirt because the black tops two passes The last three years two years we've rented Attracted ourselves and gone back and done some of the problematic areas That don't normally get done And we're trying to cut a lot of rush So that would kind of slow the regrowth Of the lake so you would get more of the banks and the Rather over the ditch side And It might not even have to be an alternate year could be two years of single pass and one year of double And then go another two year, you know what I mean The only thing I'd say to that is probably if you're going to a single pass on a dirt road You'd want to somehow specify your intersections Intersecting, you know, your intersection should have be moved back much further Because we have We entertain the idea of possibly, you know, I mean Because it's not getting cheaper. No looking into possibly You know purchasing a used one Or looking at doing Problem is the rental companies have gotten away from doing roadside renting roadside So that traction is not there anymore To do the hard intersections and stuff like that But yeah, you know, I mean Just might be one year that we We have to specify a little bit more to move the intersections You know, 15 feet So there's three passes for a hundred yards type stuff to alleviate some of that It's hard Nobody's doing it anymore They used to be a bunch of guys that used to do roadside rental and then now there's not We don't see the estimated cost of the piece of equipment like that Um This 60 to 80 The one that we rented last year was offered up for sale this spring for 140 would have only had 38 hours on it 40 hours That was a rental at first Yeah, yeah, it was brand new. They bought at the end of last year and then the company It was Fairfields is one that we're doing all the rentals and they got the company that owns them has changed their patterns Are going away from like tractor rentals. They're going to sell them They'll sell the I think their diamond mowers is what they they sell it as a A tractor with a mower on anything else And typically where does this typically land this Just an average I don't remember what last year was I think last year it was like 65 Yeah, I think it was 6,500 for the summer somewhere between 65 and 68 I believe I can look it up and send it to you And we don't have a start date or a finish by day We don't normally he starts great. I think right around the fourth of july or just after it's pretty consecutive because The guy's been doing it does Berlin like Just about every town except for Vermont Don't own their own outside mower out of spare town playing field middle sex So you say he so he's done he's done this several times several years in a row. Yeah Also the only one that beds on it well Last year he was the only one that bit on it Yeah, we want we sent it out to four different people and No, we returned him. He was the only one that bit or that had the equipment as well because there's a couple of companies northern Vermont that do the B transiders Sent that to them I'm sure they're plates full to take a contract with the state Comes down to the who has the equipment and the time now is what it's coming to Anything be added to the I think I'd like to see a little added mowing and then there's you know the intersections honestly Do we want Do we want to specify three passes for a hundred yards either side of an intersection? Sure There's going to be quite a few places you won't get three passes. No, you won't but You know there's places that you will and places you won't We can add that trust me to add it. Do you already want to see it at the next meeting? Trust you to add it. Okay so you Change that and get it out and see what's possible exactly Anything else on this Local options tax update. Yeah, I just wanted to give you some quick numbers You know, we're still in the first quarter working with railing now just to let you know that the What they're seeing as of Around the fourth of april They'd had a little over 23,000 hits on their ad on their site that they've put out there Which means That's the number of people that have clicked on the ad to view it. It's 23,271 If you want the demographics the breakdown they even have that You know, how many were women between certain ages men between certain ages So 61 percent were women between the ages of 45 and 65 31 percent were men between the ages of 30 and 45 8 non-binary between 45 and 65 the ads between that group also Have been shared 646 times Links to the town of Berlin so residents from the town of Berlin or that were Appeared as residents were a little over 3,000 So it's getting getting well-viewed The next steps going into the next quarter We probably have a couple of We're looking for a couple of residents that are willing to maybe do a little podcast About it as well. I know that joe and david both mentioned. They're available. They would also Represent the town and in doing a podcast with them as well again to go to the next level So that'll be coming up in the next quarter here real soon We'll be getting that setting up and I'll be reaching out To get that going but at least again, we've got some some numbers to show that people are looking at it so it's Getting a little bit more exposure which can't hurt any questions on any of that Yeah, Vince Yes No of the 27,000 definitely not About 3,000 were berlin residents Okay Um, so I drafted up the morning and notice for all sort of you And I also included just if you wanted to look at it what we're looking at for the ballot We're just going to print those here And can count them we are going to send out postcards to all non-challenged voters That's just a one Sided quarter page notice And then we'll Run and add in the newspaper at the time so I got some of the world for two weeks as well As social media. So hopefully that will get enough work out that We'll get some people present Okay And this one's The election is going to be on Tuesday, May 23rd So the night before we'll do a little informational session here, I guess after You'll have to reach out to The senior center the director have her here for that. Well, yeah Any questions for rachel on this? Welcome. Thank you. Thank you very much rachel. Thank you Tools of licenses permits vouchers and applications I make the motion to approve payroll warrant 23-21 for payroll from March 26th to April 8th of this year paid on April 12th 2023 in the amount of $366.71 Also payable warrant 23 g 19 with checks 22 869 to 22 904 For payables in the amount of 41,587 dollars and 93 cents And the march reckons out bank statements for the general fund sewer water checking accounts and the march general journal entries as well Second Any discussion All those in favor Motion carries Mr. Chair, do you need a motion for the Tell me more To accept it or The thing there is it was requested by the Voters, so we really don't have much to say about it But you can make the motion just to be safe I move that we Approve the line for the May 23rd 2023 special Tom meeting as prepared second It is through the discussion all those in favor All right motion carries Thank you Approval of minutes for the march 6 2023 I make the motion to approve the monday mark 6 2023 minutes with just one change and that's on page two Um near the end of the paragraph just changing to Conti shared He was okay, etc. It's just he other than that a second Mr. Chair, did we have good clarification on How we go about proving me since we don't have a Warm who was still on the board who was at that meeting Yeah, I I I have submitted that to VLCT as a you know municipal query I'm waiting on that on the on the answer. I should have it any day from them for that clarification So it would make the march 6 and just the march 6 one Yeah So I'll let just the motion I was going to adjust my motion and say that we approve the monday mark 6 2023 minutes with that one change that I mentioned pending the notification that We are awaiting from VLCT And it's can update us Provided they say yes, then approval could go forward second All those in any further discussion on this Could you not approve these just as written? Even though we didn't as presented he has presented sure But it would have to be of the members that were present Right, but we'll see which there was only two right, which you know even Actions the board had to be by a majority or not a majority Present so we would need three votes Either way Which we don't have who are present at that meeting now I was at that meeting, but I was not a board member at that And I concur with the minutes as prepared. I just was not board member at that It's it's a legal Technicality now I wouldn't say on the development view or we would approve these with no issues, but See I'm kind of wondering also I have to go through the Robert's rules, but if if Even two votes when when there's only three people here two votes as a majority But the authority of our board is the majority of the board not majority of the board president being that we're a five-person board A two to one vote would not pass It's so Brad. It's just it's it's it's not even two to one It's the only two people. Yeah, but but I'm but I'm saying if there's only three people here was a two to one vote Yeah, even though more people voted for it since it was not a majority of the board It's not our office rules board. It's our charter of the state delegated authorities to us. It has to be majority of the board Not a majority of the board president Maybe we should drag Carl back Well I guess for 30 for myself Are you a tiebreaker? Yeah only so And but in this case we're not gonna allow him to vote It's not I haven't he's not a tie. I get it So we'll take and do it as stated Let us know Yeah, I'll get that answer. I'm sure Okay, all in favor of the motion All right. I abstain Okay one abstention Approval of minutes of March 20th 2023 I make the motion that we table the Monday March 20th 2023 minutes There's grammatical things and changes but on page three at the bottom. There's a big part The There was the motion it was seconded the motion carried and then it goes on to talk about the credit card limit, etc And so something needs to change there So I just recommend that we table it have those changes made and bring it back to us at the next meeting I Need for the discussion on this Those in favor Motion carries Minutes of April 3rd 2023 I make the motion to approve the Monday April 3rd 2023 as presented with just a few grammaticals And on the very last page under the treasurer's discussion and the decision on moving to paychecks There was one place where I was quoted as Smith asked about the differences 188 times units, which is employees I'd just like to see that clarified from the audio and adjusted To give a little more context to what that question was I think others might ask as well And I'll give bits the minutes of each of these for review You hear a second So I have Any further discussion Hearing none those in favor Motion carries Ralph David Joe I guess the only thing I would have to say is there's been I've had a few calls on the the traffic conditions on 302 I don't know if there's anyone else is dead any You got a bridge project down there Not so much, uh, I guess the morning, but the evening traffic was back way up I don't know if anyone's had it We haven't any calls here on it. I thought it was really pretty smooth. I went through there a couple times the other day I was kind of impressed Well, I went to Price chopper tonight Going into price chopper. It was too late Coming out of price chopper. It was one like and the traffic was backed up in front of price chopper So I think that's where it is, but I mean you had to remember the the car count on that road is phenomenal But what people have to start doing is taking the uh bypass the access road up to the through way And then get you know go down and drop right in down the bro and hill and In the most failure or well, I actually forgot about it. That's how I get caught it I mean when the when both lanes are open the traffic isn't unimpeded, but They're that equipment is working pretty close, but I think they closed that one lane As a safety measure Unfortunately, it does inconvenience people but not much you can do about it Hopefully when the new bridge is in it'll be an improvement Anything else Joe? No The only thing that I had is I was going to ask Vince if he would describe at the last board meeting there was a slight discussion of the potential for some land in West burman for potential in the future Housing if that were to happen and it was in the paper and there were people who expressed Interest in knowing about where that was a little more clarity I think that would be nice to have that discussion tonight So that people I can do it now. It's up to the board chair. I have that on my notes to talk about at the round table Any else Thank you Dave Yeah, Tom's been asking about asking me to bring it up to the board He presented an idea about fundraising for some for like the rec department in the cemetery And some other departments. I guess he talked to Vince about it as well And no one that I was involved in some of these charity events earlier on And they were Texas hold them turnings We just ran one for a gentleman with cancer It was about a five hour event rates about a thousand dollars for the individual at the Canadian club And tom asked if I'd be willing to help set set something up if it was something at the board's pleasure to go forward We try to raise some funds For the rec committee cemetery, I guess there's a list of Things that we can do it and under the state statutes. We can legally run four events a year for each Each uh department the department so uh It's in the early time right now. I know that I've had a few clubs reach out to me I got involved in that first one and now they want to start doing them in the area, so uh, they're going to be doing one at the pfw in east berry On the 21st, I believe a may if anybody's interested seeing how one of them events go So, uh, it's it's early on. I don't really know, you know, what kind of framework but You know to do it for municipality The time I guess tom's looked into it. I have as well. I pulled the state gaming things And I was kind of just waiting to see what happened in the state with the sport betting thing To to go forward with some of this thing because it was end of the house was supposed to vote on it I'm not sure if they felt it was going to pass. I reached out to our and and i you and Can go slap find out if it did and I haven't heard back yet, so You know, it's just something to be thinking about Anything else A little that's sore and nothing Vince I do have a couple um, first I'd like to um Talk about police ship coverage the chief asked me to bring this up He's going to have even though he's you know, we're Well, at least to have to keep bragging about that. Um, he's going to have people away this summer for extended period of time Um for military service and fmla and he um is asking for the board's approval to consider Carrying over some vacation for those people that that will be working the overtime to cover those people being gone. Um In case they aren't able to use You know their their allocation of vacation to allow them to carry over 60 hours So that's that's the first one so, um Leave time how much can they accrue and then how much can they carry over? I have to look at the new contract in the handbook I don't recall what we negotiated to you Diane Not normally in the past. I think they could carry over 40 hours for vacation. Yeah, so Yeah, that's the question. I know it's 40 hours In the past. So they're asking to carry over an additional 20 hours well If you want to take and clarify it with With the uh contract We can what they accumulate yeah, you know, you like it like that put on the agenda for next meeting. Okay So if they carry it over, um when the other officers return When when are they going to be expected to maybe use it? I mean, how long are they going to carry it over? Till they get an increase in that I think the expectation and I'll clarify that with the chief as well just to carry it over for the following year those 60 hours Into the following year This is carried out based on July 1st. Yeah fiscal year. Yeah, that was that's it on that one. No, but I have late there's more um Another reminder on Wednesday of this week the 19th at 10 a.m um anyone that's Wants to come to the riverton fire station. We're meeting with cd fiber to uh understand what their proposal is that they want to put in over there for a Station basically What's that going to be like a booster signal booster? Uh, I think it's uh, it's almost I don't remember You know the little uh like the green telephone boxes that you see sitting on cement pads It's going to be something of that nature for them distribution type of box. I guess it's the best word For that Yeah, so that's that's Wednesday at 10 a.m at the riverton fire station anyone that would They've invited the board anyone that wants to come and I'll be over there As well um The root 12 bridge so Friday morning. I had a conversation with the state Regarding the bridge Long story short, it's going to be very expensive for the town if we even want to consider it at this point Um, there's some steel that we'd be responsible to replace Uh, there's lead paint that we'd be responsible to remove from the bridge along with the storage and transportation Uh, the state would contribute only up to the amount of the demolition of the bridge Towards the cost of that so I think it's going to be pretty cost prohibitive For us to do that For the bridge itself. I have talked with the conservation commission It wasn't in the deeds But it is conserved property. So the housing is out of the wind out of the picture at this time There's some significant Vernal pools and things in that area Um, however, I am on the next conservation commission meeting agenda to have further discussion about access to that area because basically right now people are going there for For the walk through the vernal pools to use the swimming hole It's over there and they're doing it in not so much safe manner by walking down through the railroad tracks and the right Away and such um, so we want to Explore opportunities how to get access over there safely Which is again a bridge that from route 12 Is is one means and you don't have to cross the railroad tracks But in the deep paperwork, there is a An old right of way off from Chandler road as well that we haven't set eyes on yet along the brook Over there near west hill where it crosses. Yeah So we want to we want to lay eyes on that and have a look and see if that's something that can be Resurrected for lack of a better term Um, which includes The way it looks in the deed it includes the railroad crossing an old railroad crossing that may be in there as well So that's the status of that And and what we're looking at so it's it's not a dead issue yet, but we look it is for the housing Um, but we're still looking at getting Good at good safe access to that to that part of a call it a recreational area Any way that you can update the deed to show that that is a conserved land Uh, I'm that's part of the conversation with the conservation commission, right? They were originally going to try to do something with Vermont land trust, but at the time When that was being done and the property moving Over it was cost prohibitive to them is what I understand now. So We need to find a way to to get that documented one way or another As well to your point and the last one that I have is There's paperwork like this in the package that just needs your signatures on it. It's for the, um Highway grant that we get every year or try to get every year. I should say resurfacing the airport road ground Did you want to say anything about the health insurance increase? No, no Tim, yes on that highway that has we have there been any roads added class two roads added To the grant or just To the town But you're taking care of now No class two's not any more than what we've had in the years past As they told me Did we add Walker road? Can you plow it the walker road or um not a walker down to Josh Walker's Reclass three Not to Again, if you could just please sign that so I can get that back to the same Make it so these People put in colors. We make it like a 30 foot Like I think it's a good idea because I just driving around and hitting some of these places There's no requirement for length Yeah Because if they have a truck come I'm seeing more and more of the ends. Oh, yeah Kicked over and they're not getting full access and if it's a flood The biggest problem is the price of the culverts Three times the price it was 10 years ago. So People aren't they don't want to put that extra 10 feet on but and then the two connectors if they cut it in half You know to do it, but I think it just makes sense In the long run because if you get a lot of rain stuff washes down mixing, you know, you're washing culverts So everything just I do have one last thing just just to mention for for the board's information and Diane shared this with me this afternoon was that the She got the 23 2023 health insurance. There's been a 3.9 percent for a single person family and a 5.7 percent increase for a two person family That's a lot lower than was predicting was predicting seven percent so it came in a much better Good news Going back to the length of culvert you were talking about Could you address that if you had like a minimum slope From driveway to bottom of the ditch Where the culverts come in? Or a match. Yeah, specify that. Awesome. Don't they have like a 16 foot model 16 foot model that it comes into 16 foot is what they plan but then By the time they're done and then model next out They've made up that 20 feet Say what you say what you say again If you specify the the slope allowed from the top of your driveway to the bottom of your ditch You'd have your culverts coming in and then that would If that was a deep ditch, yeah, it'd be A longer culvert. I'll see so I guess two foot You get away with a minimum if it's three eight foot It's considerably larger. Well, that's more of a diameter, right? Yeah But You know, I mean if we just put it in there at a minimum of 30 feet and then it could be worded, you know, so it's depending on which scenario it is like Yeah, well, we had to change a few of them because They're on ledge So they can't get the depth to put an 18 in without Hammer and You know, these are some some scenarios We've we've gone to a 15 instead of an 18 to try to compensate a little bit and help out We'll look at the policy because I think I think in the existing policy today Um, the length is specified not to exceed and I know it's less than 30 feet I almost think it's 24 feet For a standard driveway like partridge fire or whatever, right if you put in a standard driveway I think it's not I think it's not to exceed 24 feet, but I'm not positive on that, but I I'm sure there's a length specified in there And it's less than 30 feet I've developed a lot or something like by two cohorts come in a half with the two connectors and put half on the both ends You know, it's a lot bigger But it that's it for me any discussion today? No, sir Did I get a motion for adjourn? That's a motion to adjourn A little bit of favor